I just cruised through some ticketmaster shows.. Paul McCartney, Aerosmith, Lil Wayne, Jonas Brothers.. for the seating area that most 10c seats are in all of their prices are either higher or equivalant. If you think $83.50 is too much for PJ imagine paying $89 for Lil Wayne or the Jonas Brothers.
You can always wait for the public onsale and but the nose bleed tickets that will be cheaper.
Since when does PJ have ticket price tiers? They didnt' for Chicago or Toronto. Not saying they won't, but I don't think they usually do.
I think it depends on the venue because lawn seats at an outdoor venue are never the same price as front row tickets.
I have definitely seen lawn seats the same price as the seated portion of the venue. Plenty of times actually.
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I love when people talk about their first PJ show costing so much less. Hello, everything was less in 15-20 years ago. I just paid $75 to see Eddie. I dont think an extra 8 bucks is a stretch for the entire band.
I think the best way to compare the cost in 1991 vs. the cost in 2009 is to figure out how many hours you need to work in order to pay for the ticket.
you can just use the Government inflation calculator
So when Pearl Jam was fighitng ticketmaster for $35 seats, that price today back then would be $59.60...but they are charging $83
What about the other factors such as rising popularity? A band might charge $20 for tickets when they are starting to hit it big but 15 years later and they are one of the biggest rock bands in the world their tickets are worth a little more.
I don't think inflation is the only factor in the rising costs of the tickets.
What about the other factors such as rising popularity? A band might charge $20 for tickets when they are starting to hit it big but 15 years later and they are one of the biggest rock bands in the world their tickets are worth a little more.
I don't think inflation is the only factor in the rising costs of the tickets.
Pearl Jam was much more popular in 1995 than they are in 2009
i love that people are using the ticket prices of notorious sellouts like the jonas brothers and aerosmith to justify PJ... I'm sure ed would have some nasty things to say about his fellow extortionists (too strong a word... cant find my thesaurus right now) if he saw the lists some of you are making...
apples and oranges people... PJ used to be an excessively idealistic orange... extra pulpy
What about the other factors such as rising popularity? A band might charge $20 for tickets when they are starting to hit it big but 15 years later and they are one of the biggest rock bands in the world their tickets are worth a little more.
I don't think inflation is the only factor in the rising costs of the tickets.
Pearl Jam was much more popular in 1995 than they are in 2009
On the charts maybe but there are people in 2009 that have listened to them since 1995 and still fly and travel everywhere and anywhere to see their shows. Its a different popularity but its still there.
i love that people are using the ticket prices of notorious sellouts like the jonas brothers and aerosmith to justify PJ... I'm sure ed would have some nasty things to say about his fellow extortionists (too strong a word... cant find my thesaurus right now) if he saw the lists some of you are making...
apples and oranges people... PJ used to be an excessively idealistic orange... extra pulpy
I was just saying that if people pay that much to see crap like the Jonas Brothers then its definitely worth it to see PJ.
I just cruised through some ticketmaster shows.. Paul McCartney, Aerosmith, Lil Wayne, Jonas Brothers.. for the seating area that most 10c seats are in all of their prices are either higher or equivalant. If you think $83.50 is too much for PJ imagine paying $89 for Lil Wayne or the Jonas Brothers.
You can always wait for the public onsale and but the nose bleed tickets that will be cheaper.
Since when does PJ have ticket price tiers? They didnt' for Chicago or Toronto. Not saying they won't, but I don't think they usually do.
I just cruised through some ticketmaster shows.. Paul McCartney, Aerosmith, Lil Wayne, Jonas Brothers.. for the seating area that most 10c seats are in all of their prices are either higher or equivalant. If you think $83.50 is too much for PJ imagine paying $89 for Lil Wayne or the Jonas Brothers.
You can always wait for the public onsale and but the nose bleed tickets that will be cheaper.
Since when does PJ have ticket price tiers? They didnt' for Chicago or Toronto. Not saying they won't, but I don't think they usually do.
Seems like there are price tears!
I get it
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I do have a solution for those that think its too much.. don't go. And if any of you think they are sellouts or whatever name it is this week for their ticket prices then please forfeit your 10c # so I can have better seats. thanks and have a nice day.
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They are worth every damm cent that i will pay ,i just don't go to see other bands i have zero interest in seeing anyother band besides PJ ,i saw The Dead this spring out of curiosity paid $110 for a ticket would never do that again ...to me it's a no brainer ..
They are worth every damm cent that i will pay ,i just don't go to see other bands i have zero interest in seeing anyother band besides PJ ,i saw The Dead this spring out of curiosity paid $110 for a ticket would never do that again ...to me it's a no brainer ..
well everyone else that is still interested in seeing new bands (including i assume audiophiles like ed and jeff) knows that some of the best shows cost $20-30... and when i have to stretch my concert budget over an entire jam packed summer/fall PJ's prices has a big effect... not about "getting my moneys worth" as much as it is a pure numbers thing... probably 1/3 of my concert budget is going to one show
They are worth every damm cent that i will pay ,i just don't go to see other bands i have zero interest in seeing anyother band besides PJ ,i saw The Dead this spring out of curiosity paid $110 for a ticket would never do that again ...to me it's a no brainer ..
well everyone else that is still interested in seeing new bands (including i assume audiophiles like ed and jeff) knows that some of the best shows cost $20-30... and when i have to stretch my concert budget over an entire jam packed summer/fall PJ's prices has a big effect... not about "getting my moneys worth" as much as it is a pure numbers thing... probably 1/3 of my concert budget is going to one show
It's all about individuality i personally don't attend other concerts anymore i did for along time i have seen at least 400 shows, i save my $$$$$$$ just for PJ shows .....i really don't go to other concerts anymore ..
They are worth every damm cent that i will pay ,i just don't go to see other bands i have zero interest in seeing anyother band besides PJ ,i saw The Dead this spring out of curiosity paid $110 for a ticket would never do that again ...to me it's a no brainer ..
well everyone else that is still interested in seeing new bands (including i assume audiophiles like ed and jeff) knows that some of the best shows cost $20-30... and when i have to stretch my concert budget over an entire jam packed summer/fall PJ's prices has a big effect... not about "getting my moneys worth" as much as it is a pure numbers thing... probably 1/3 of my concert budget is going to one show
It's all about individuality i personally don't attend other concerts anymore i did for along time i have seen at least 400 shows, i save my $$$$$$$ just for PJ shows .....i really don't go to other concerts anymore ..
there are a bunch of bands that charge a lot less and put on great shows, such as wilco and mmj
no question about it
but as referenced in the EV article someone posted before, and as I have previously said, so long as people copy and trade music, I will not begrudge an artist for its ticket prices-its how they make money these days
there are a few performers for whom I will pay the extra cash:
1) Neil young $150+
2) Pete townsend in any shape or form other than an orchestra $150+
3) Ed and pearl jam $85 (not bad at all)
but as referenced in the EV article someone posted before, and as I have previously said, so long as people copy and trade music, I will not begrudge an artist for its ticket prices-its how they make money these days
i can agree with that point... but were talking fan club tickets here... we pay $25/year almost solely for the chance at tickets and then on top of that we pay as much as the general public... do you honestly think fan club members are downloading PJs albums for free? were the ones buying multiples copies (CD, vinyl, online exclusives, etc) not to mention all the other merch... if PJs isnt making the $ they once did it has nothing to do with their fan club fanbase
I started this thread because I was curious to see what others think about the ticket prices and to express my sadness that I can no longer afford to go to see my favorite band. I have been very amused/shocked/saddened seeing how some people are comparing Pearl Jam to other musicians/bands and other random items like BMW’s. We are all very passionate about this band. I can’t even begin to describe how much their music and actions throughout the years have meant to me. I am sure many of you can say the same.
I don’t think asking “is $83.50 is too much”, is an attack on the band or is an inappropriate question to ask. Neither is asking if $20, or $100, or $1,000 is too much? Pearl Jam as a band has done so many positive things to make this world a better place. Even as individuals, they are amazing people, and very giving. People on this forum are free to express their opinions of the band. If their opinions differ from mine I would try not to judge them or jump down their throats if I disagree with them.
I don’t think it is fair to compare Pearl Jam with U2, Radiohead, or any other band. It comes down to our own personal value of each one of these bands, or any band for that matter. To me getting to see Pearl Jam is a priceless experience. If I COULD afford to pay $1,000 a ticket I would, but unfortunately I can’t. What I personally CAN afford is between $50-$60 at most to see my favorite band. That being stated, I already informed you all of how much I make and the situation I am in when I started this thread. I currently make less than the national yearly average, but not by much. With that in mind, I STRUGGLE to pay my own bills. However, I am grateful to be where I am today. I still have a job. Not everyone can say the same thing at this time. Several people on this thread talk about saving up your money to see Pearl Jam. I think that is excellent advice and something I have done since I was a teenager working at McDonalds, and something I still do. I live a very modest life style. I don’t drink or smoke. I don’t even own a TV (because monthly cable is too expensive and since the digital conversion all I get is white fuzz). Between student loans, rent, and other bills all I can spend on groceries a week is $60 for myself, and my daughter. I have approximately $28 left after each paycheck to pay for unexpected things. I have learned to make that $28 go as far as I can, but it is becoming very difficult to make it go as far anymore. Going to see Pearl Jam live has been the only LUXURY or BIG PURCHASE I have ever made for myself since I began listening to the band almost 17 years ago. I am so extremely fortunate to have seen them as many times as I have (9 times). I was really looking forward to seeing them again. Looks like I am going to keep saving and wait for a bit longer to before I can see them again. Maybe I will splurge and purchase one of the bootlegs to hold me over until then. I am still extremely excited about the new album. I still think the band is virtuous. I still think they are the greatest rock and roll band in the world.
Still, very few people answered my question. How much is too much for YOU to pay for a Pearl Jam ticket? Not what you WOULD pay, but what you CAN pay. Like a said above about $50-$60 is all I CAN afford to pay.
On a regular tour $110 AUD ($85 USD) would be the point before it became unreasonable. But i'd still pay whatever the asking price because I know they'd never charge the ridiculous costs of these golden oldies who think they have a right to charge $300 a ticket just cause they are over 50 years old.
I just paid about $130 for a John Farnham ticket though (to make my mother happy!) so $110 to see PJ would in comparison be a good deal.
I'm so far behind in replying but...yeah this is a lot to pay, but I'll pay it. I've been seeing them every year since who knows when and I haven't in a year or so now. I can't wait!
I just wanted to reply to the selling out part. Who cares? I certainly don't... I've never understood that. I think the people that get upset with the "selling out" are the people in denial. I'd love to know how they live their daily lives. Do they avoid every single "mainstream" product, venue, or person? I doubt it.
Get over yourself. The music is still good an enjoyable or you wouldn't be here. Who cares who they "partner" with for ads? Are they killing children and small animals? I hope not.
I don't see why it's not "fair" to compare them to anyone. Do they play the same venues? Then compare away. U2 may have been around longer but why are they uncomparable? Bah.
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Still, very few people answered my question. How much is too much for YOU to pay for a Pearl Jam ticket? Not what you WOULD pay, but what you CAN pay. Like a said above about $50-$60 is all I CAN afford to pay.
i will pay what i can afford and i can afford $84....i'm fortunate because i have no wife or kids to support
and the bmw analogy is correct...i may want a bmw, but i can't afford one...doesn't mean i should demand the bmw lower it's prices so i can buy one
Still, very few people answered my question. How much is too much for YOU to pay for a Pearl Jam ticket? Not what you WOULD pay, but what you CAN pay. Like a said above about $50-$60 is all I CAN afford to pay.
i will pay what i can afford and i can afford $84....i'm fortunate because i have no wife or kids to support
and the bmw analogy is correct...i may want a bmw, but i can't afford one...doesn't mean i should demand the bmw lower it's prices so i can buy one
BMW doesn't parade around fighting ticket companies to keep their prices low and try to market themselves to fans as a product for everyone.
and whoever is comparing Pearl Jam to the Who in terms of what they should charge for tickets is ridiculous. Look, we all love the band or else we woun't be here, but lets not get crazy now. Pearl Jam is a good band but they are nowhere near the Who or U2 at this point. Those are bad examples. Good examples would be Radiohead and Dave Matthews Band
Still, very few people answered my question. How much is too much for YOU to pay for a Pearl Jam ticket? Not what you WOULD pay, but what you CAN pay. Like a said above about $50-$60 is all I CAN afford to pay.
i will pay what i can afford and i can afford $84....i'm fortunate because i have no wife or kids to support
and the bmw analogy is correct...i may want a bmw, but i can't afford one...doesn't mean i should demand the bmw lower it's prices so i can buy one
BMW doesn't parade around fighting ticket companies to keep their prices low and try to market themselves to fans as a product for everyone.
yeah the most all of the 90's when they were down to earth and practiced what they preached.
They are like the guy who is a rebel growing up but once he gets older he just says fuck it and starts working for a corporation for a solid pay, some benefits and a pension.
yeah the most all of the 90's when they were down to earth and practiced what they preached.
They are like the guy who is a rebel growing up but once he gets older he just says fuck it and starts working for a corporation for a solid pay, some benefits and a pension.
I don't see why it's not "fair" to compare them to anyone. Do they play the same venues? Then compare away. U2 may have been around longer but why are they uncomparable? Bah.
the comparisons arent really "fair" because those other bands didnt run a very public, preachy campaign against a ticket giant to keep prices down... i hate to resort to "sell out" name calling but U2 is the very epitome of horrible music marketing... if we wanna throw PJ into bed with those types then so be it
on the other hand... dunno what the point of the complaining really is... wouldnt we all feel like shit if the 10C broke down all expenses price by price and it turned out the band wasnt making a cent more than they did in '95... could just be making sure their dedicated road crew gets the $ they deserve, gas prices up, bigger light show, etc... cant see that it would jump so drastically... but hey, i wouldnt want anyone digging through my expense reports :?
im lucky to be young and without the expenses of children, mortgage, etc. - so for right now i can save up and afford nearly every concert i want to see nearby... if it gets any higher though ill have to bow out just on principle
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I have definitely seen lawn seats the same price as the seated portion of the venue. Plenty of times actually.
What about the other factors such as rising popularity? A band might charge $20 for tickets when they are starting to hit it big but 15 years later and they are one of the biggest rock bands in the world their tickets are worth a little more.
I don't think inflation is the only factor in the rising costs of the tickets.
Pearl Jam was much more popular in 1995 than they are in 2009
apples and oranges people... PJ used to be an excessively idealistic orange... extra pulpy
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On the charts maybe but there are people in 2009 that have listened to them since 1995 and still fly and travel everywhere and anywhere to see their shows. Its a different popularity but its still there.
I was just saying that if people pay that much to see crap like the Jonas Brothers then its definitely worth it to see PJ.
Seems like there are price tears!
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It's all about individuality i personally don't attend other concerts anymore i did for along time i have seen at least 400 shows, i save my $$$$$$$ just for PJ shows .....i really don't go to other concerts anymore ..
there are a bunch of bands that charge a lot less and put on great shows, such as wilco and mmj
no question about it
but as referenced in the EV article someone posted before, and as I have previously said, so long as people copy and trade music, I will not begrudge an artist for its ticket prices-its how they make money these days
there are a few performers for whom I will pay the extra cash:
1) Neil young $150+
2) Pete townsend in any shape or form other than an orchestra $150+
3) Ed and pearl jam $85 (not bad at all)
http://seanbriceart.com/
I don’t think asking “is $83.50 is too much”, is an attack on the band or is an inappropriate question to ask. Neither is asking if $20, or $100, or $1,000 is too much? Pearl Jam as a band has done so many positive things to make this world a better place. Even as individuals, they are amazing people, and very giving. People on this forum are free to express their opinions of the band. If their opinions differ from mine I would try not to judge them or jump down their throats if I disagree with them.
I don’t think it is fair to compare Pearl Jam with U2, Radiohead, or any other band. It comes down to our own personal value of each one of these bands, or any band for that matter. To me getting to see Pearl Jam is a priceless experience. If I COULD afford to pay $1,000 a ticket I would, but unfortunately I can’t. What I personally CAN afford is between $50-$60 at most to see my favorite band. That being stated, I already informed you all of how much I make and the situation I am in when I started this thread. I currently make less than the national yearly average, but not by much. With that in mind, I STRUGGLE to pay my own bills. However, I am grateful to be where I am today. I still have a job. Not everyone can say the same thing at this time. Several people on this thread talk about saving up your money to see Pearl Jam. I think that is excellent advice and something I have done since I was a teenager working at McDonalds, and something I still do. I live a very modest life style. I don’t drink or smoke. I don’t even own a TV (because monthly cable is too expensive and since the digital conversion all I get is white fuzz). Between student loans, rent, and other bills all I can spend on groceries a week is $60 for myself, and my daughter. I have approximately $28 left after each paycheck to pay for unexpected things. I have learned to make that $28 go as far as I can, but it is becoming very difficult to make it go as far anymore. Going to see Pearl Jam live has been the only LUXURY or BIG PURCHASE I have ever made for myself since I began listening to the band almost 17 years ago. I am so extremely fortunate to have seen them as many times as I have (9 times). I was really looking forward to seeing them again. Looks like I am going to keep saving and wait for a bit longer to before I can see them again. Maybe I will splurge and purchase one of the bootlegs to hold me over until then. I am still extremely excited about the new album. I still think the band is virtuous. I still think they are the greatest rock and roll band in the world.
Still, very few people answered my question. How much is too much for YOU to pay for a Pearl Jam ticket? Not what you WOULD pay, but what you CAN pay. Like a said above about $50-$60 is all I CAN afford to pay.
On a regular tour $110 AUD ($85 USD) would be the point before it became unreasonable. But i'd still pay whatever the asking price because I know they'd never charge the ridiculous costs of these golden oldies who think they have a right to charge $300 a ticket just cause they are over 50 years old.
I just paid about $130 for a John Farnham ticket though (to make my mother happy!) so $110 to see PJ would in comparison be a good deal.
I just wanted to reply to the selling out part. Who cares? I certainly don't... I've never understood that. I think the people that get upset with the "selling out" are the people in denial. I'd love to know how they live their daily lives. Do they avoid every single "mainstream" product, venue, or person? I doubt it.
Get over yourself. The music is still good an enjoyable or you wouldn't be here. Who cares who they "partner" with for ads? Are they killing children and small animals? I hope not.
I don't see why it's not "fair" to compare them to anyone. Do they play the same venues? Then compare away. U2 may have been around longer but why are they uncomparable? Bah.
"New music, new friends. Pearl Jam."
I like our socks. I hear we make a fine sock. I always say, You might not love our records, but I think you'll like our socks. - Stone
"This record is us speaking out in class." -EV on PJ
So $83.50 might be closer to like $72 when you factor in convenience fees, building maint fees, etc that they tax on to these tickets.
I obviously don't know, but that's my hunch at least for part of the price.
i will pay what i can afford and i can afford $84....i'm fortunate because i have no wife or kids to support
and the bmw analogy is correct...i may want a bmw, but i can't afford one...doesn't mean i should demand the bmw lower it's prices so i can buy one
BMW doesn't parade around fighting ticket companies to keep their prices low and try to market themselves to fans as a product for everyone.
and whoever is comparing Pearl Jam to the Who in terms of what they should charge for tickets is ridiculous. Look, we all love the band or else we woun't be here, but lets not get crazy now. Pearl Jam is a good band but they are nowhere near the Who or U2 at this point. Those are bad examples. Good examples would be Radiohead and Dave Matthews Band
there was a pearl jam parade and i missed it? :(
:roll:
It was sponsored by walmart. hehehehe. Can't wait to see them in LA!
"New music, new friends. Pearl Jam."
I like our socks. I hear we make a fine sock. I always say, You might not love our records, but I think you'll like our socks. - Stone
"This record is us speaking out in class." -EV on PJ
They are like the guy who is a rebel growing up but once he gets older he just says fuck it and starts working for a corporation for a solid pay, some benefits and a pension.
when you become an adult you'll understand
on the other hand... dunno what the point of the complaining really is... wouldnt we all feel like shit if the 10C broke down all expenses price by price and it turned out the band wasnt making a cent more than they did in '95... could just be making sure their dedicated road crew gets the $ they deserve, gas prices up, bigger light show, etc... cant see that it would jump so drastically... but hey, i wouldnt want anyone digging through my expense reports :?
im lucky to be young and without the expenses of children, mortgage, etc. - so for right now i can save up and afford nearly every concert i want to see nearby... if it gets any higher though ill have to bow out just on principle
http://seanbriceart.com/