Is $83.50 too much???

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  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    thunderDAN wrote:
    JD Sal wrote:
    Anyone ever seen this?

    VEDDER FEARS TICKET PRICE HIKE

    September 24, 2007

    PEARL JAM star EDDIE VEDDER fears he'll have to increase concert ticket prices after years of fighting to keep them low - because fans keep stealing his songs. The rocker was one of the leading voices against high ticket fees - and famously took on Ticketmaster in America - but now he feels downloading is killing music and he'll need to seek profits elsewhere. Vedder says, "A lot of people are getting your music without having to pay, and it's only $12. "I ordered eggs at a little restaurant in Seattle and it was $9.50. I was thinking, 'You can't spend two extra bucks for a record that you put your heart and soul into?' "I think the problem is to charge more for tickets, which is something we've always been abhorrent to do; either that or you're gonna have to start accepting sponsorships, or start selling your music to Viagra. "I'm not sure how we'll do it. I'm glad we gave money away when we did - when it came in from making records. We kind of spread it around and helped people in our community and abroad in different ways."

    hahahaha. So their reasoning is they charge $85 to people that spend $20 a year to be in the fan club, buy the albums on vinyl and CD, buy posters, shirts, hoodies and every other trinkets they can manage to slap their name on so they can make up profits they lose by people illegally downloading?

    What now you are saying Fan Club members should get a break on tickets?

    I can't believe the amount of bitching that goes on about Pearl Jam's ticket prices. Pearl Jam is one of the biggest rock bands in the world. They sell out everywhere they go and they usually have to play in LARGE arenas. It is not cheap to run a tour like this. You have a huge crew, huge amount of gear which you then have to drag all over the damn place. Are they supposed to pay for this out of their pocket so people can have their 1995 prices back? Insane! :roll:
  • thunderDANthunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    SolarWorld wrote:
    thunderDAN wrote:
    JD Sal wrote:
    Anyone ever seen this?

    VEDDER FEARS TICKET PRICE HIKE

    September 24, 2007

    PEARL JAM star EDDIE VEDDER fears he'll have to increase concert ticket prices after years of fighting to keep them low - because fans keep stealing his songs. The rocker was one of the leading voices against high ticket fees - and famously took on Ticketmaster in America - but now he feels downloading is killing music and he'll need to seek profits elsewhere. Vedder says, "A lot of people are getting your music without having to pay, and it's only $12. "I ordered eggs at a little restaurant in Seattle and it was $9.50. I was thinking, 'You can't spend two extra bucks for a record that you put your heart and soul into?' "I think the problem is to charge more for tickets, which is something we've always been abhorrent to do; either that or you're gonna have to start accepting sponsorships, or start selling your music to Viagra. "I'm not sure how we'll do it. I'm glad we gave money away when we did - when it came in from making records. We kind of spread it around and helped people in our community and abroad in different ways."

    hahahaha. So their reasoning is they charge $85 to people that spend $20 a year to be in the fan club, buy the albums on vinyl and CD, buy posters, shirts, hoodies and every other trinkets they can manage to slap their name on so they can make up profits they lose by people illegally downloading?

    What now you are saying Fan Club members should get a break on tickets?

    I can't believe the amount of bitching that goes on about Pearl Jam's ticket prices. Pearl Jam is one of the biggest rock bands in the world. They sell out everywhere they go and they usually have to play in LARGE arenas. It is not cheap to run a tour like this. You have a huge crew, huge amount of gear which you then have to drag all over the damn place. Are they supposed to pay for this out of their pocket so people can have their 1995 prices back? Insane! :roll:

    they didn't sell out Virginia Beach, Tampa or West Palm last year and haven't sold out the Chicago shows this year


    I'm also not suggesting they go to 1995 prices, all I'm saying is if Radiohead can put on a tour that plays the exact venues for $55 there is no reason Pearl Jam can't do the same.
  • glbglb Posts: 356
    SolarWorld wrote:
    thunderDAN wrote:
    JD Sal wrote:
    Anyone ever seen this?

    VEDDER FEARS TICKET PRICE HIKE

    September 24, 2007

    PEARL JAM star EDDIE VEDDER fears he'll have to increase concert ticket prices after years of fighting to keep them low - because fans keep stealing his songs. The rocker was one of the leading voices against high ticket fees - and famously took on Ticketmaster in America - but now he feels downloading is killing music and he'll need to seek profits elsewhere. Vedder says, "A lot of people are getting your music without having to pay, and it's only $12. "I ordered eggs at a little restaurant in Seattle and it was $9.50. I was thinking, 'You can't spend two extra bucks for a record that you put your heart and soul into?' "I think the problem is to charge more for tickets, which is something we've always been abhorrent to do; either that or you're gonna have to start accepting sponsorships, or start selling your music to Viagra. "I'm not sure how we'll do it. I'm glad we gave money away when we did - when it came in from making records. We kind of spread it around and helped people in our community and abroad in different ways."

    hahahaha. So their reasoning is they charge $85 to people that spend $20 a year to be in the fan club, buy the albums on vinyl and CD, buy posters, shirts, hoodies and every other trinkets they can manage to slap their name on so they can make up profits they lose by people illegally downloading?

    What now you are saying Fan Club members should get a break on tickets?

    I can't believe the amount of bitching that goes on about Pearl Jam's ticket prices. Pearl Jam is one of the biggest rock bands in the world. They sell out everywhere they go and they usually have to play in LARGE arenas. It is not cheap to run a tour like this. You have a huge crew, huge amount of gear which you then have to drag all over the damn place. Are they supposed to pay for this out of their pocket so people can have their 1995 prices back? Insane! :roll:

    I'd rather pearl Jam accept a damn sponsorship than gouge me $35 per fucking ticket. My god, let Budweiser put up a sign and save me $35. Hell I'm going to drink their product either way. $85 a ticket is ridiculous.
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  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    Gouge you $35? I'm sorry bro but huge rock concerts are a luxury, you are not entitled to them. If $35 per ticket breaks your bank, then unfortunately you should probably be saving your cash.
  • thunderDANthunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    glb wrote:

    I'd rather pearl Jam accept a damn sponsorship than gouge me $35 per fucking ticket. My god, let Budweiser put up a sign and save me $35. Hell I'm going to drink their product either way. $85 a ticket is ridiculous.

    they did that last year with Verizon and ticket were $73

    Radiohead who is arguably bigger than Pearl Jam keeps good seats under $60, lawn/nose bleeds are $35 without sponsorship of the tour, they have just as many guys to pay and even have more equipment because they lug around a LED lighting show.

    I hate comparing Pearl Jam to Radiohead all the time, but they seem to share similar values (or did at one time) and they are both huge bands that draw good crowds

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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,494
    spend two hours with me it will cost you $650 and its nowhere near as fun as a PJ concert-close but no cigar ;)

    $85 to spend a couple of hours with live pearl jam is a bargain if you ask me

    and good for radiohead, a great band that sells a LOT more records than PJ
  • DragonsAfter3or4DragonsAfter3or4 Bluegrass Posts: 339
    83.50 is WAAYYYYY TOOO MUCH in my book for PJ.. Hell, I paid last year 65 bucks a pop for the Foo Fighters at the Joint in Vegas and I was about 10 feet from the stage. One of the best shows I've ever seen.
    PJ can charge what they want and there will be a ton of people that are cool with the price. NOT ME. This is getting ludicrous!
  • glbglb Posts: 356
    SolarWorld wrote:
    Gouge you $35? I'm sorry bro but huge rock concerts are a luxury, you are not entitled to them. If $35 per ticket breaks your bank, then unfortunately you should probably be saving your cash.

    Yes, GOUGE. what would you call it? when it's 2 tickets your buying every show, and if you go to more than one show, we're talking 100's of dollars. I'm doing fine with my funds, thanks for your worries though. I'm so tired of this luxury/entitled crap... give that shit a rest. I feel entitled to a fair price though, and I don't think this is one.
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  • solat1973solat1973 Posts: 131
    Just checked my ticket stub for Randalls island 96, they say $22.50, Times have changed prices do go up, I payed over 500.00 for 2 U2 tickets gor Giants stadium, and thats regular price from ticketmaster. So 83.50 is not bad. Gas keeps going up right?
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  • EL177913EL177913 Posts: 220
    RG42219 wrote:
    Would you rather $40 for nosebleed seats or 83.50 for good seats and a chance at first row. You guys want the best seats and cheap tickets but unfortunately you cant have it all. Wont their be cheaper options when they go on sale to the general public?

    The problem is is that historically PJ have charged the same amount for every seat in the venue. So now for the public onsale those nosebleed seats are also going to cost 83.50 and then some with the convenience charges.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    solat1973 wrote:
    Just checked my ticket stub for Randalls island 96, they say $22.50, Times have changed prices do go up, I payed over 500.00 for 2 U2 tickets gor Giants stadium, and thats regular price from ticketmaster. So 83.50 is not bad. Gas keeps going up right?

    Gas is half the price it was last summer.
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    bottomline - the choice is yours.
    pearl jam has the right to set their price for what they deem fair/marketable, to decide their profit margin, etc....and you as the consumer have the right to accept or reject said price. don't like it, don't buy it.


    (and no, i am not suggesting people not say and discuss what they like...i am merely talking specifically towards our own actions/controls)
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  • solat1973solat1973 Posts: 131
    DewieCox wrote:
    solat1973 wrote:
    Just checked my ticket stub for Randalls island 96, they say $22.50, Times have changed prices do go up, I payed over 500.00 for 2 U2 tickets gor Giants stadium, and thats regular price from ticketmaster. So 83.50 is not bad. Gas keeps going up right?

    Gas is half the price it was last summer.

    No its not just got gas today payed 2.91 a gallon last year it was 3.99. maybe a by a dollar, but not half
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  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    It's definitely a lot more than it used to be. And I know folks on here aren't bashing the band, so there really is no need to defend them, but I have faith that these guys do everything they can to keep prices fair from year to year. Just seems that across the board a lot of people are getting priced out of good, live entertainment these days whether it be sports or live music. It's a big problem for a genre like rock and roll which is supposed to be for "the people."

    hey, it ain't just live entertainment either!
    go to the movie theatre recently? :shock:
    i am really dating myself here, but i remember way back in the day when i first started dating my hsuband. go to the movies, in the evening - prime time - get sodas, the huge popcorn, the works.....and it totalled maybe $20. for everything. nowadays we'll go to a matinee no less, and it'll cost us $30 for the works. if we actually went to an evening show, would be more like $35. EVERYthing is getting more pricey......
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  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,707
    Every debate over ticket prices always have the exact same arguments:

    The band have families to support
    Gas prices have gone up
    The band sells fewer records
    The band is straying from their original ethic of keeping prices low
    The band has the right to charge market value
    No one is pointing a gun and forcing you to buy tickets
    Everyone has the right to refrain from buying tickets
    A PJ concert is a luxury
    The sense of entitlement is overwhelming
    Fugazi charged $5
    U2 charges $250
    (insert band name) charges much less
    (insert band name) charges much more

    Anyone have any NEW arguments?
  • IndifferenceIndifference Posts: 2,739
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Every debate over ticket prices always have the exact same arguments:

    The band have families to support
    Gas prices have gone up
    The band sells fewer records
    The band is straying from their original ethic of keeping prices low
    The band has the right to charge market value
    No one is pointing a gun and forcing you to buy tickets
    Everyone has the right to refrain from buying tickets
    A PJ concert is a luxury
    The sense of entitlement is overwhelming
    Fugazi charged $5
    U2 charges $250
    (insert band name) charges much less
    (insert band name) charges much more

    Anyone have any NEW arguments?

    You forgot these 2:

    They should play bigger places and charge less.
    They should play smaller places and charge more.

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  • thunderDANthunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Every debate over ticket prices always have the exact same arguments:

    The band have families to support
    Gas prices have gone up
    The band sells fewer records
    The band is straying from their original ethic of keeping prices low
    The band has the right to charge market value
    No one is pointing a gun and forcing you to buy tickets
    Everyone has the right to refrain from buying tickets
    A PJ concert is a luxury
    The sense of entitlement is overwhelming
    Fugazi charged $5
    U2 charges $250
    (insert band name) charges much less
    (insert band name) charges much more

    Anyone have any NEW arguments?

    Its a disease,... and theyre all green
    It emminates from their being
    Agitation,.. with occupation

    And like weeds,.. with big leaves
    Stealing light from whats beneath
    Where they have more,...
    Still they take more

    Course I know,.. then I dont
    Theres a stoway with my throat
    Its deceiving
    I dont believe him

    We can scream,.. out our doors
    Behind the wall a fat man snores
    In his dreams hes,...
    Choking on leaves

    Well I guess
    Theres nothing wrong with what you say
    Believe me
    Just asking you to sway
    No white
    Or black
    Just grey
    Can you feel this,..
    World with your heart and not your brain?
  • Staceb10Staceb10 Posts: 675
    I love when people talk about their first PJ show costing so much less. Hello, everything was less in 15-20 years ago. I just paid $75 to see Eddie. I dont think an extra 8 bucks is a stretch for the entire band.
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    thunderDAN wrote:
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Every debate over ticket prices always have the exact same arguments:

    The band have families to support
    Gas prices have gone up
    The band sells fewer records
    The band is straying from their original ethic of keeping prices low
    The band has the right to charge market value
    No one is pointing a gun and forcing you to buy tickets
    Everyone has the right to refrain from buying tickets
    A PJ concert is a luxury
    The sense of entitlement is overwhelming
    Fugazi charged $5
    U2 charges $250
    (insert band name) charges much less
    (insert band name) charges much more

    Anyone have any NEW arguments?

    Its a disease,... and theyre all green
    It emminates from their being
    Agitation,.. with occupation

    And like weeds,.. with big leaves
    Stealing light from whats beneath
    Where they have more,...
    Still they take more

    Course I know,.. then I dont
    Theres a stoway with my throat
    Its deceiving
    I dont believe him

    We can scream,.. out our doors
    Behind the wall a fat man snores
    In his dreams hes,...
    Choking on leaves

    Well I guess
    Theres nothing wrong with what you say
    Believe me
    Just asking you to sway
    No white
    Or black
    Just grey
    Can you feel this,..
    World with your heart and not your brain?


    THAt ain't new, at all.........;)


    right along with 'the waiting drove me mad' during the waits for announcements, pretty much EVERY discussion regarding $$$ and pj comes down to someone posting about 'green disease'....so i think joe's Q still stands..... :mrgreen:
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,941
    83.50 is too high and the band should be ashamed of themselves! That being said, I will be purchasing tickets to both Philly shows.
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  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,707
    Staceb10 wrote:
    I love when people talk about their first PJ show costing so much less. Hello, everything was less in 15-20 years ago. I just paid $75 to see Eddie. I dont think an extra 8 bucks is a stretch for the entire band.

    I think the best way to compare the cost in 1991 vs. the cost in 2009 is to figure out how many hours you need to work in order to pay for the ticket.
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    83.50 is too high and the band should be ashamed of themselves! That being said, I will be purchasing tickets to both Philly shows.


    evidently then, it's still isn't truly "too much" to you...otherwise you would not support such "shameful" activity. ;)


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  • DragonsAfter3or4DragonsAfter3or4 Bluegrass Posts: 339
    Staceb10 wrote:
    I love when people talk about their first PJ show costing so much less. Hello, everything was less in 15-20 years ago. I just paid $75 to see Eddie. I dont think an extra 8 bucks is a stretch for the entire band.
    I'm not talkin bout 20 years ago. I compare foo fighters last year. 65 bucks at the Joint in Vegas and 55 bucks at conseco fieldhouse in indy. A FAR cry from 83.50 and their show KICKED ASS!!!!!!!!!!!
    Again, you can pay this ludicrous price if you choose. I just choose NOT to. I'll wait for another Foo show or another STP show at 45 bucks.
  • thunderDANthunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Staceb10 wrote:
    I love when people talk about their first PJ show costing so much less. Hello, everything was less in 15-20 years ago. I just paid $75 to see Eddie. I dont think an extra 8 bucks is a stretch for the entire band.

    I think the best way to compare the cost in 1991 vs. the cost in 2009 is to figure out how many hours you need to work in order to pay for the ticket.

    you can just use the Government inflation calculator

    http://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

    a $25 ticket in 1995 is $35 this year

    So when Pearl Jam was fighitng ticketmaster for $35 seats, that price today back then would be $59.60...but they are charging $83
  • Staceb10Staceb10 Posts: 675
    Staceb10 wrote:
    I love when people talk about their first PJ show costing so much less. Hello, everything was less in 15-20 years ago. I just paid $75 to see Eddie. I dont think an extra 8 bucks is a stretch for the entire band.
    I'm not talkin bout 20 years ago. I compare foo fighters last year. 65 bucks at the Joint in Vegas and 55 bucks at conseco fieldhouse in indy. A FAR cry from 83.50 and their show KICKED ASS!!!!!!!!!!!
    Again, you can pay this ludicrous price if you choose. I just choose NOT to. I'll wait for another Foo show or another STP show at 45 bucks.


    Hey that's your perogative. But I don't think I mentioned anything about comparing band prices. I think I said comparing the ticket price of a PJ show 15 years ago to one today. I don't think the prices are ludicrous for the costs of tickets today. I had tickets to see Madonna that were $250.. now that's ludricous and I only went because they were given to me.
  • glbglb Posts: 356
    Staceb10 wrote:
    I love when people talk about their first PJ show costing so much less. Hello, everything was less in 15-20 years ago. I just paid $75 to see Eddie. I dont think an extra 8 bucks is a stretch for the entire band.

    i also thought the ticket price for Eddie was insane, just so you know. Almost passed up a show in my hometown because of it, but alas I could not resist.
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  • glbglb Posts: 356
    thunderDAN wrote:
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Staceb10 wrote:
    I love when people talk about their first PJ show costing so much less. Hello, everything was less in 15-20 years ago. I just paid $75 to see Eddie. I dont think an extra 8 bucks is a stretch for the entire band.

    I think the best way to compare the cost in 1991 vs. the cost in 2009 is to figure out how many hours you need to work in order to pay for the ticket.

    you can just use the Government inflation calculator

    http://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

    a $25 ticket in 1995 is $35 this year

    So when Pearl Jam was fighitng ticketmaster for $35 seats, that price today back then would be $59.60...but they are charging $83

    Very Nice work! $50-$60 is what I would expect to pay. Good work ThunderDan
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  • Staceb10Staceb10 Posts: 675
    I just cruised through some ticketmaster shows.. Paul McCartney, Aerosmith, Lil Wayne, Jonas Brothers.. for the seating area that most 10c seats are in all of their prices are either higher or equivalant. If you think $83.50 is too much for PJ imagine paying $89 for Lil Wayne or the Jonas Brothers.

    You can always wait for the public onsale and but the nose bleed tickets that will be cheaper.
  • glbglb Posts: 356
    Staceb10 wrote:
    I just cruised through some ticketmaster shows.. Paul McCartney, Aerosmith, Lil Wayne, Jonas Brothers.. for the seating area that most 10c seats are in all of their prices are either higher or equivalant. If you think $83.50 is too much for PJ imagine paying $89 for Lil Wayne or the Jonas Brothers.

    You can always wait for the public onsale and but the nose bleed tickets that will be cheaper.

    Since when does PJ have ticket price tiers? They didnt' for Chicago or Toronto. Not saying they won't, but I don't think they usually do.
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  • Staceb10Staceb10 Posts: 675
    glb wrote:
    Staceb10 wrote:
    I just cruised through some ticketmaster shows.. Paul McCartney, Aerosmith, Lil Wayne, Jonas Brothers.. for the seating area that most 10c seats are in all of their prices are either higher or equivalant. If you think $83.50 is too much for PJ imagine paying $89 for Lil Wayne or the Jonas Brothers.

    You can always wait for the public onsale and but the nose bleed tickets that will be cheaper.

    Since when does PJ have ticket price tiers? They didnt' for Chicago or Toronto. Not saying they won't, but I don't think they usually do.


    I think it depends on the venue because lawn seats at an outdoor venue are never the same price as front row tickets.
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