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Bernie Sanders for President

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    muskydanmuskydan Posts: 1,013
    If you are in Downtown Chicago you must come to the Bernie Sanders Rally at Daley plaza right NOW!!!! The BLack lives Matters folks decided to crash the party and its getting tence. I swear you can't pay for better entertainment than this. I got to hand it to some of ole Berns supporters, they did not backing down to these BLM oxygen thieves. If only these dummies from BLM knew Bernie is all about giving out More Free Shit they might behave civilly for once in their pathetic lives.
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    rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Enjoy the show Dan-O.You working or just playin?
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    InHiding80InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    edited January 2016
    MayDay10 said:

    I know they are kind of ideologically opposite in a lot of ways, but I would love to see Sanders and Ron Paul team up and form a 3rd party ticket and break up the 2 party system.

    Same here. I'm all for Bernie but I'd vote Paul in a heartbeat over Hillary, spineless democrats and the crazy dictator punks on the right. He's the only one who gives a damn about the constitution and foreign policy when it comes to war. The two parties need a wake up call and kick in the ass and this would be it.

    I prefer his dad, Ron, though. He voted against Monsanto when he was in the senate and he has respect from me for that. His son flip flopped.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,727
    muskydan said:

    If you are in Downtown Chicago you must come to the Bernie Sanders Rally at Daley plaza right NOW!!!! The BLack lives Matters folks decided to crash the party and its getting tence. I swear you can't pay for better entertainment than this. I got to hand it to some of ole Berns supporters, they did not backing down to these BLM oxygen thieves. If only these dummies from BLM knew Bernie is all about giving out More Free Shit they might behave civilly for once in their pathetic lives.

    Co-opting and deconstructing the gains civil rights in America has made is "entertaining"? Bernie Sanders is all about "More Free Shit"?

    Earth to Dan?
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    InHiding80InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623

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    Inheriting daddy's wealth isn't a job and Trump wants to take our jobs, dumbass.

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    muskydanmuskydan Posts: 1,013
    rr165892 said:

    Enjoy the show Dan-O.You working or just playin?

    Playing... Decided to take the lady friend ice skating downtown. Boy did she ever get a educational experience today ...she might not even vote Demorat after today's display of wackiness
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,969
    muskydan said:

    rr165892 said:

    Enjoy the show Dan-O.You working or just playin?

    Playing... Decided to take the lady friend ice skating downtown. Boy did she ever get a educational experience today ...she might not even vote Demorat after today's display of wackiness
    She bases her vote on protesters? Sounds like a Trump supporter to me.
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    rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    No Gern,muskies lady friend is just a bright woman who can see and hear and realizes what's right and wrong with what going on.Watching that Trainwreck might make many rethink who and what they support.Why BLM breaks Bernies balls shows how out of touch they are.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,727
    muskydan said:

    If you are in Downtown Chicago you must come to the Bernie Sanders Rally at Daley plaza right NOW!!!! The BLack lives Matters folks decided to crash the party and its getting tence. I swear you can't pay for better entertainment than this. I got to hand it to some of ole Berns supporters, they did not backing down to these BLM oxygen thieves. If only these dummies from BLM knew Bernie is all about giving out More Free Shit they might behave civilly for once in their pathetic lives.

    Considering what you're saying, Dan, and what is written here...

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/01/16/Sanders-endorsed-by-Black-Lives-Matter-activist/7361452980696/
    Sanders endorsed by Black Lives Matter activist

    ...it would appear BLM is rather split on Sanders.
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    muskydanmuskydan Posts: 1,013
    brianlux said:

    muskydan said:

    If you are in Downtown Chicago you must come to the Bernie Sanders Rally at Daley plaza right NOW!!!! The BLack lives Matters folks decided to crash the party and its getting tence. I swear you can't pay for better entertainment than this. I got to hand it to some of ole Berns supporters, they did not backing down to these BLM oxygen thieves. If only these dummies from BLM knew Bernie is all about giving out More Free Shit they might behave civilly for once in their pathetic lives.

    Considering what you're saying, Dan, and what is written here...

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/01/16/Sanders-endorsed-by-Black-Lives-Matter-activist/7361452980696/
    Sanders endorsed by Black Lives Matter activist

    ...it would appear BLM is rather split on Sanders.
    Well evidently the Chicago BLM folks didn't get that memo Bri. Not surprising since BLM people I have come across in Chicago are very very SPECIAL Beings.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,162
    like special forces?

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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,727
    muskydan said:

    brianlux said:

    muskydan said:

    If you are in Downtown Chicago you must come to the Bernie Sanders Rally at Daley plaza right NOW!!!! The BLack lives Matters folks decided to crash the party and its getting tence. I swear you can't pay for better entertainment than this. I got to hand it to some of ole Berns supporters, they did not backing down to these BLM oxygen thieves. If only these dummies from BLM knew Bernie is all about giving out More Free Shit they might behave civilly for once in their pathetic lives.

    Considering what you're saying, Dan, and what is written here...

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/01/16/Sanders-endorsed-by-Black-Lives-Matter-activist/7361452980696/
    Sanders endorsed by Black Lives Matter activist

    ...it would appear BLM is rather split on Sanders.
    Well evidently the Chicago BLM folks didn't get that memo Bri. Not surprising since BLM people I have come across in Chicago are very very SPECIAL Beings.
    I kind of doubt it has as much to do with the city as with the individuals. A similar situation occurred in Seattle. I would think BLM no doubt must have some problems with dissension within among its own people in all city.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,969
    rr165892 said:

    No Gern,muskies lady friend is just a bright woman who can see and hear and realizes what's right and wrong with what going on.Watching that Trainwreck might make many rethink who and what they support.Why BLM breaks Bernies balls shows how out of touch they are.

    not if she says she might not vote democrat because of an unrelated protester
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    muskydan said:

    rr165892 said:

    Enjoy the show Dan-O.You working or just playin?

    Playing... Decided to take the lady friend ice skating downtown. Boy did she ever get a educational experience today ...she might not even vote Demorat after today's display of wackiness
    Don't blame me - I am voting for KODOS!
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,727
    Good show in Iowa, Bernie!
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    callencallen Posts: 6,388
    brianlux said:

    Good show in Iowa, Bernie!

    You think? He's got to do real well in NH.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
    muskydan said:

    If you are in Downtown Chicago you must come to the Bernie Sanders Rally at Daley plaza right NOW!!!! The BLack lives Matters folks decided to crash the party and its getting tence. I swear you can't pay for better entertainment than this. I got to hand it to some of ole Berns supporters, they did not backing down to these BLM oxygen thieves. If only these dummies from BLM knew Bernie is all about giving out More Free Shit they might behave civilly for once in their pathetic lives.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxnxH-7Xk7U
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,543
    brianlux said:

    Good show in Iowa, Bernie!

    But he lost..... IMO, it doesn't mean anything unless you win.
    However, you are probably congratulating him for showing strongly despite a loss, and I suppose that could mean that he still has a chance, which I suppose is true (I hope so... I am pretty pessimistic though. I am inclined to believe that it's pretty much a rigged game).
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
    edited February 2016
    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    Good show in Iowa, Bernie!

    But he lost..... IMO, it doesn't mean anything unless you win.
    However, you are probably congratulating him for showing strongly despite a loss, and I suppose that could mean that he still has a chance, which I suppose is true (I hope so... I am pretty pessimistic though. I am inclined to believe that it's pretty much a rigged game).
    Compared to where he was 6 months ago (down by 50%) and going up against the political machine that is Clinton...to lose by less than 1% is the definition of a good showing. I hope he can build on that momentum and I think he can.
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,921
    They split the delegates almost equally. Both candidates can claim that as a victory and let their surrogates paint their opponent as the loser.
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    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    Good show in Iowa, Bernie!

    But he lost..... IMO, it doesn't mean anything unless you win.
    However, you are probably congratulating him for showing strongly despite a loss, and I suppose that could mean that he still has a chance, which I suppose is true (I hope so... I am pretty pessimistic though. I am inclined to believe that it's pretty much a rigged game).
    Well, if your definition of winning is who received the most caucus votes, then Hillary won 49.8 to 49.6%. If you're definition of winning is who receives the most delegates to the convention, then it was a tie, because each will receive 22 delegates. However, if the question is, who would you have rather been last night, consider these points:

    -Hillary campaigned all over Iowa once before in 2008, and has had at least the skeleton of a political machine on the ground there ever since.
    -Hillary has Superpacs, tons of money, by their own admission the most established organization in the history of Iowa politics, and the endorsements of every major Iowa politician and newspaper. She was also endorsed by the NY Times over the weekend. She had her popular former President husband and daughter campaigning all over the state for her, and even dragged poor Gabby Gifford up on stage with her.
    -Last year at this time, Bernie had a zero recognition score in Iowa and polled in the single digits.
    He had no money, no organization, no volunteers, no campaign infrastructure. All he had was a message,
    -When campaigning starts in earnest, Bernie draws huge, excited. motivated crowds. Hillary draws smaller less enthusiastic crowds.
    -As his message starts to resonate, Bernie cuts the deficit from 40 points to 25 to 18 to 12 to 8 to 4, and finally, by election day, is in a statistical dead heat.
    -caucus goers show up in droves, many participating for the first time, many of those to vote for Bernie
    -caucus goers who want a candidate they feel "cares about their needs" support Bernie 78%; caucus goers who want a candidate they feel is honest and that they can trust support Bernie 82%
    -Bernie ties the once-anointed "invincible, inevitable nominee" and heads to New Hampshire with a healthy (and growing) lead. He lands in NH at 5 a.m. AND A CROWD OF SUPPORTERS IS WATING FOR HIM. Despite the exhausting hour and lack of sleep, he gets up on the bed of a flatbed truck and graciously speaks.

    Question: Which candidate "won"?
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited February 2016
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    callen said:

    brianlux said:

    Good show in Iowa, Bernie!

    You think? He's got to do real well in NH.
    Bernie is already leading in NH.
    Clinton won last night because of *6* coin tosses done because they were both ties. Iowa caucus standards are to decide those last few delegates by COIN TOSS. She won all 6 which tied them both. If Bernie won any of those tosses, he would have won Iowa.

    Hillary is spinning her Corp and money machine HARD to win and being deceptive is not out of the question.

    The people will prevail, Bernie will win. You watch.
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,921
    Hard to believe Martin O'Malley's 0.6% showing actually swung Iowa.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
    Hillary won 6 coin tosses. The way we elect a president is archaic.
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    ldent42ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859

    Hillary won 6 coin tosses. The way we elect a president is archaic.

    maybe Bernie could do something about that if he wins the Presidency.
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,123
    ldent42 said:

    Hillary won 6 coin tosses. The way we elect a president is archaic.

    maybe Bernie could do something about that if he wins the Presidency.
    They could pick a number between 1 and 10 instead ... reform!
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    Iowa's nightmare revisited: Was correct winner called?
    http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/02/02/iowas-nightmare-revisited-correct-winner-called-caucus-night/79702010/
    After voters from the final missing Democratic precinct tracked down state party officials Tuesday morning to report their results, Bernie Sanders won by two state delegate equivalents over Hillary Clinton in the final missing precinct, Des Moines precinct No. 42.

    The Iowa Democratic Party determines its winner based on delegate equivalents, tied to a math formula, not head count. The updated final tally of state delegate equivalents for all the precincts statewide:

    Clinton: 700.59

    Sanders: 696.82.

    That's a 3.77-count margin between Clinton, the powerful establishment favorite who early on in the Democratic race was expected to win in a virtual coronation, and Sanders, a democratic socialist who few in Iowa knew much about a year ago.
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