A 1 in 1000 year event (note that this is a debatable stat) ...... I'm thinking the extent of the flooding itself is likely thanks to the paving over of wetlands, from the articles I've read.
A 1 in 1000 year event (note that this is a debatable stat) ...... I'm thinking the extent of the flooding itself is likely thanks to the paving over of wetlands, from the articles I've read.
Yes. No argument that the extent of the flooding is largely due to the lack of anywhere else for the water to go. When huge areas of land are paved, the water can't help but sit there.
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I think this blind guess about how many people might have died on the roads in an evacuation is a bit stupid.
Not a blind guess; it references past evacuations.
Sure, you can argue that cities should have better evacuation plans, but the reality is that there is no way that a large city like Houston can fully evacuate over a couple of days. It's physically impossible to get all those people out in an orderly, safe manner. And if you could, where do 4 million people go?
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Of course you are talking about social programs, right? There is a difference in social services/programs and a Socialist Government. The Bernie bros made that clear on a daily basis back when the dude was relevant. Most people aren't against social services such as FEMA or firefighters, but many are against Socialism style governments that fully try to exclude the free market.
Of course you are talking about social programs, right? There is a difference in social services/programs and a Socialist Government. The Bernie bros made that clear on a daily basis back when the dude was relevant. Most people aren't against social services such as FEMA or firefighters, but many are against Socialism style governments that fully try to exclude the free market.
Whether Sanders' message was miscommunicated or misconstrued, I don't think he was opposed to the free market typically: only on products and services which affect the core requirements of modern life. This might include health, emergency services, education, and job-seeking assistance.
Access to opportunity or staying alive, in my opinion, should not be a fully free market. But then again, opinions are like assholes.
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Of course you are talking about social programs, right? There is a difference in social services/programs and a Socialist Government. The Bernie bros made that clear on a daily basis back when the dude was relevant. Most people aren't against social services such as FEMA or firefighters, but many are against Socialism style governments that fully try to exclude the free market.
Whether Sanders' message was miscommunicated or misconstrued, I don't think he was opposed to the free market typically: only on products and services which affect the core requirements of modern life. This might include health, emergency services, education, and job-seeking assistance.
Access to opportunity or staying alive, in my opinion, should not be a fully free market. But then again, opinions are like assholes.
I would affirm that as well. I do not believe fully free market or fully socialized governments would work all that great. I do tend to lean towards letting the free market taking the lead wherever possible thus my libertarian leaning stance, but understand certain social programs are necessary with large populations. In my opinion, government should stay out of it as much as possible and "try" to let the free market thrive.
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Most of us are so totally lucky to be sitting in our nice cozy dry homes and talking as if we know what we would do if we lived there. Shit, I don't have a clue. Get on an 18 lane freeway with 100,000 maniacs? Hope my inflatable mattress still hold air? Wish for a helicopter ride? I can't imagine being there.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Most of us are so totally lucky to be sitting in our nice cozy dry homes and talking as if we know what we would do if we lived there. Shit, I don't have a clue. Get on an 18 lane freeway with 100,000 maniacs? Hope my inflatable mattress still hold air? Wish for a helicopter ride? I can't imagine being there.
I completely agree. That's our hometown and we've been in contact with friends and family for the last week. It's a nightmare down there. Please keep the thoughts & prayers going.
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Most of us are so totally lucky to be sitting in our nice cozy dry homes and talking as if we know what we would do if we lived there. Shit, I don't have a clue. Get on an 18 lane freeway with 100,000 maniacs? Hope my inflatable mattress still hold air? Wish for a helicopter ride? I can't imagine being there.
I completely agree. That's our hometown and we've been in contact with friends and family for the last week. It's a nightmare down there. Please keep the thoughts & prayers going.
Absolutely! And I didn't mean to sound like I have it together and everyone else is out to lunch. I have to stop myself now and then, remember my relative good fortune, and practice some big-time gratitude for being in a fairly safe place in life. Compared to some places, very safe.
Good thoughts still going out for our friends in TX.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Most of us are so totally lucky to be sitting in our nice cozy dry homes and talking as if we know what we would do if we lived there. Shit, I don't have a clue. Get on an 18 lane freeway with 100,000 maniacs? Hope my inflatable mattress still hold air? Wish for a helicopter ride? I can't imagine being there.
I completely agree. That's our hometown and we've been in contact with friends and family for the last week. It's a nightmare down there. Please keep the thoughts & prayers going.
Absolutely! And I didn't mean to sound like I have it together and everyone else is out to lunch. I have to stop myself now and then, remember my relative good fortune, and practice some big-time gratitude for being in a fairly safe place in life. Compared to some places, very safe.
Good thoughts still going out for our friends in TX.
I understood what you meant, man! Gratitude is so important and I think we'd all be better as a country/world if we truly took stock more often.
It's a really great thing that Trump appointed an obscene critic of the EPA to run the EPA so as to render it ineffective and not help in dealing with this mess. Let the markets regulate themselves. Thanks Donny.
It's a really great thing that Trump appointed an obscene critic of the EPA to run the EPA so as to render it ineffective and not help in dealing with this mess. Let the markets regulate themselves. Thanks Donny.
Trump certainly didn't help but this has been an accident waiting to happen for a good while.
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“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
We will have enough people locally to help though. Did you see the people coming from all over with their boats to help get people to safety?
yes that was one of the beautiful things to see happening. people helping each other. as bad as us Americans can treat each other at times we do rally together when needed during crisis.
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Sure, you can argue that cities should have better evacuation plans, but the reality is that there is no way that a large city like Houston can fully evacuate over a couple of days. It's physically impossible to get all those people out in an orderly, safe manner. And if you could, where do 4 million people go?
Of course you are talking about social programs, right? There is a difference in social services/programs and a Socialist Government. The Bernie bros made that clear on a daily basis back when the dude was relevant. Most people aren't against social services such as FEMA or firefighters, but many are against Socialism style governments that fully try to exclude the free market.
Access to opportunity or staying alive, in my opinion, should not be a fully free market. But then again, opinions are like assholes.
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Good thoughts still going out for our friends in TX.
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This will be problematic in the future.
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We will have enough people locally to help though. Did you see the people coming from all over with their boats to help get people to safety?