Hurricane Harvey

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  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    John was wrong on that one. 
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Should be Cajun Coast Guard
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  • darth
    darth Houston, TX Posts: 139
    Im in Houston and I'm lucky but it's bad a lot of people lost everything.  My family was lucky but have friends that have lost a lot.  Thanks to anyone on here that helps any way they can we down here in Houston appreciate it a lot!
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    31 people perished

    horrible
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Sad to hear we're up to 31.
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    darth said:
    Im in Houston and I'm lucky but it's bad a lot of people lost everything.  My family was lucky but have friends that have lost a lot.  Thanks to anyone on here that helps any way they can we down here in Houston appreciate it a lot!
    Glad you're safe. Such a terrible storm...
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    Relief efforts will need to continue for some time.  Things to be concerned about in the coming weeks and months:

    http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2017/08/if-things-werent-already-bad-enough-houston-is-about-to-face-a-public-health-nightmare/

    "If Things Weren't Already Bad Enough,Houston is About to Face a Public Health Nightmare"

    "In the coming weeks and even months, residents of Houston and other parts of southern Texas hit hard by Hurricane Harvey will be faced with the public health disasters that can result from dirty floodwater and landslides. The natural disaster has ostensibly turned the city into a sprawling, pathogen-infested swamp.

    Up to 25 inches of rain have already accumulated in two days. Rains are expected to continue until Wednesday night, and by the end, Harvey will have dumped 40 to 50 inches on the metropolitan area. Heavy precipitation is turning entire neighborhoods into contaminated and potentially toxic rivers. For many of the city’s residents, contact with floodwater is unavoidable, putting them at risk for diarrhea-causing bacterial infections, Legionnaires’ disease and mosquito-borne viruses."


    https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/hurricane-harvey/harvey-danger-major-chemical-plant-near-houston-likely-explode-facility-n797581

    "Harvey Danger: Major Chemical Plant Near Houston Likely to Explode, Facility Owner Warns

    One of the world's largest chemical companies warned Wednesday that its flooded plant near Houston will likely catch fire and explode in the next few days — and there's nothing the company can do about it.

    Arkema Group's plant in Crosby, Texas — about 20 miles northeast of Houston — was inundated by more than 40 inches of rain by Hurricane Harvey and has been without electricity since Sunday, the company, based in Colombes, France, said in a statement.

    The company said it made extensive preparations for Harvey, but "the plant has never experienced flooding of this magnitude before."

    The plant manufactures organic peroxides commonly used in everyday products like kitchen countertops, industrial paints, polystyrene cups and plates and PVC piping. The materials must be kept very cool, but refrigerators for the plant's low-temperature containers are out of commission, and backup generators were also swamped, meaning "the potential for a chemical reaction leading to a fire and/or explosion within the site confines is real," the company said"








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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Houston Mayor really failed these people.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    unsung said:
    Houston Mayor really failed these people.
    How so?
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,599
    unsung said:
    Houston Mayor really failed these people.
    I feel the same way about Sandy and ALL the politicians in New York.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,880
    JC29856 said:
    best buy has apologized for selling water for $42

    https://www.mediaite.com/online/best-buy-apologizes-after-picture-spreads-online-of-tx-store-selling-cases-of-water-bottles-for-42/amp/
    You know....after dealing with many retail workers over the years, and specifically recently.  There are more than a few of them that lack the ability of reasoning.  So, I actually believe Best Buy's comment that the employee made a mistake by pricing the water at the per bottle rate.  They used the data they had .... which was single bottles.  What I'm more impressed with is that they were able to multiply that cost by 24.  Of course I'm just assuming they got the math right,
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,391
    unsung said:
    Houston Mayor really failed these people.
    Let me get this straight... You've come here to say that the government ought to have intervened more? Am I living in the twilight zone right now?
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  • JC29856
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    unsung said:
    Houston Mayor really failed these people.
    I feel the same way about Sandy and ALL the politicians in New York.
    did they downplay the storm and tell people not to overreact, not to evacuate?
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    Houston Mayor really failed these people.
    How so?
    He told everyone to stay put.  Just like Katrina people should have got out.  It was very clear how bad this was going to be.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,646
    unsung said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    Houston Mayor really failed these people.
    How so?
    He told everyone to stay put.  Just like Katrina people should have got out.  It was very clear how bad this was going to be.
    Is he king? Are people not able to decide for themselves what to do? You need a government official to control your life? To tell you what decisions to make or not make? What'd the governor say? Couldn't the governor have declared a mandatory evacuation?
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  • cincybearcat
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    Houston Mayor really failed these people.
    How so?
    Well first off he failed to stop the Hurricane from coming ashore.  Then he failed to hire enough camels to drink up all that rain.

    I'm really tired of people always looking at 1 person to vilify.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/28/546721363/why-didn-t-officials-order-the-evacuation-of-houston


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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    Houston Mayor really failed these people.
    How so?
    He told everyone to stay put.  Just like Katrina people should have got out.  It was very clear how bad this was going to be.
    Is he king? Are people not able to decide for themselves what to do? You need a government official to control your life? To tell you what decisions to make or not make? What'd the governor say? Couldn't the governor have declared a mandatory evacuation?
    H2M has his own personal weather center.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    cincybearcat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    Houston Mayor really failed these people.
    How so?
    Well first off he failed to stop the Hurricane from coming ashore.  Then he failed to hire enough camels to drink up all that rain.

    I'm really tired of people always looking at 1 person to vilify.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/28/546721363/why-didn-t-officials-order-the-evacuation-of-houston


    vilify or held accountable?
  • tempo_n_groove
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    JC29856 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    unsung said:
    Houston Mayor really failed these people.
    I feel the same way about Sandy and ALL the politicians in New York.
    did they downplay the storm and tell people not to overreact, not to evacuate?
    No, after the storm.  The lack of doing was what bothered me.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    tempo_n_groove said:
    JC29856 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    unsung said:
    Houston Mayor really failed these people.
    I feel the same way about Sandy and ALL the politicians in New York.
    did they downplay the storm and tell people not to overreact, not to evacuate?
    No, after the storm.  The lack of doing was what bothered me.
    doesn't compare to a mayor hours before the storm hits, downplays the severity, warns against overreacting and advises not to evacuate.
    if the"government" can issue emergencys and keep people off the roads, they can issue emergencys and issue people on them.
    how people get out is another story but the mayor of Houston should take responsibility for he preparedness warnings.

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