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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,031
    Just heard an cousin-in-law had to evacuate from her place in San Antonio.  Not good news.  :frowning:
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927

    In case anyone forgot....

    In the wake of Hurricane Sandy, a storm that hit New Jersey and New York in 2012, eight Texas Republicans voted against increasing flood insurance, and 23 voted against emergency funding for victims. 

    Republican Reps. Mike Conaway of Midland, Bill Flores of Bryan, Louie Gohmert of Tyler, Kenny Marchant of Coppell, Mac Thornberry of Clarendon, Randy Weber of Pearland, and Roger Williams of Austin voted no on the bill, as did former Rep. Randy Neugebauer of Lubbock.

    "Emergency relief for the families who are suffering from this natural disaster should not be used as a Christmas tree for billions in unrelated spending," Cruz said in a statement at the time. "The United States Senate should not be in the business of exploiting victims of natural disasters to fund pork projects that further expand our debt."

  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    CM189191 said:

    In case anyone forgot....

    In the wake of Hurricane Sandy, a storm that hit New Jersey and New York in 2012, eight Texas Republicans voted against increasing flood insurance, and 23 voted against emergency funding for victims. 

    Republican Reps. Mike Conaway of Midland, Bill Flores of Bryan, Louie Gohmert of Tyler, Kenny Marchant of Coppell, Mac Thornberry of Clarendon, Randy Weber of Pearland, and Roger Williams of Austin voted no on the bill, as did former Rep. Randy Neugebauer of Lubbock.

    "Emergency relief for the families who are suffering from this natural disaster should not be used as a Christmas tree for billions in unrelated spending," Cruz said in a statement at the time. "The United States Senate should not be in the business of exploiting victims of natural disasters to fund pork projects that further expand our debt."

    Texas- non mandatory flood program state.

    http://www.houstonpress.com/news/sea-level-rise-may-be-a-boon-for-texas-9394399

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,022
    Houston without zoning regulations as well. And Trump rolled back Obama's infrastructure flood regulations. Not that that impacts what is happening today but hey, lets not plan for rising sea levels and more severe weather because you know, awe shucks, its God's plan. The Texas delegation should be reminded of their viewpoint from Hurricane Sandy, often and repeatedly. Has anyone asked Senator Cruz what's different this time around?
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  • eddieceddiec Posts: 3,881
    JC29856 said:
    CM189191 said:

    In case anyone forgot....

    In the wake of Hurricane Sandy, a storm that hit New Jersey and New York in 2012, eight Texas Republicans voted against increasing flood insurance, and 23 voted against emergency funding for victims. 

    Republican Reps. Mike Conaway of Midland, Bill Flores of Bryan, Louie Gohmert of Tyler, Kenny Marchant of Coppell, Mac Thornberry of Clarendon, Randy Weber of Pearland, and Roger Williams of Austin voted no on the bill, as did former Rep. Randy Neugebauer of Lubbock.

    "Emergency relief for the families who are suffering from this natural disaster should not be used as a Christmas tree for billions in unrelated spending," Cruz said in a statement at the time. "The United States Senate should not be in the business of exploiting victims of natural disasters to fund pork projects that further expand our debt."

    Texas- non mandatory flood program state.

    http://www.houstonpress.com/news/sea-level-rise-may-be-a-boon-for-texas-9394399

    Not exactly sure of your point.
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    too early to politicize this.  those people in that region are suffering a monumental event that won't let up for 3 or 4 more days.  Let's worry and give our thoughts to those people first before politicizing. it's a horrible situation.
  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,447
    Family & friends are ok for the most part. Some displaced, houses ruined, some rescued. Scary shit. Thoughts & prayers for everyone in my hometown of Houston and everywhere else affected by this storm.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,031
    pjhawks said:
    too early to politicize this.  those people in that region are suffering a monumental event that won't let up for 3 or 4 more days.  Let's worry and give our thoughts to those people first before politicizing. it's a horrible situation.
    Well said, pjhawks!
    mfc2006 said:
    Family & friends are ok for the most part. Some displaced, houses ruined, some rescued. Scary shit. Thoughts & prayers for everyone in my hometown of Houston and everywhere else affected by this storm.
    Good thought for them from here too, mfc.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    They are due to get another 15" of rain in the next day.  The storm is still picking up moisture so even more rain is expected. 

    I don't remember Katrina and Rita dropping this much rain.
  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,367
    edited August 2017
    pjhawks said:
    too early to politicize this.  those people in that region are suffering a monumental event that won't let up for 3 or 4 more days.  Let's worry and give our thoughts to those people first before politicizing. it's a horrible situation.
    I agree, I did not intent to politicize this horrible situation. The photo I posted made me so very sad. Sorry if it offended anyone.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    eddiec said:
    JC29856 said:
    CM189191 said:

    In case anyone forgot....

    In the wake of Hurricane Sandy, a storm that hit New Jersey and New York in 2012, eight Texas Republicans voted against increasing flood insurance, and 23 voted against emergency funding for victims. 

    Republican Reps. Mike Conaway of Midland, Bill Flores of Bryan, Louie Gohmert of Tyler, Kenny Marchant of Coppell, Mac Thornberry of Clarendon, Randy Weber of Pearland, and Roger Williams of Austin voted no on the bill, as did former Rep. Randy Neugebauer of Lubbock.

    "Emergency relief for the families who are suffering from this natural disaster should not be used as a Christmas tree for billions in unrelated spending," Cruz said in a statement at the time. "The United States Senate should not be in the business of exploiting victims of natural disasters to fund pork projects that further expand our debt."

    Texas- non mandatory flood program state.

    http://www.houstonpress.com/news/sea-level-rise-may-be-a-boon-for-texas-9394399

    Not exactly sure of your point.
    point 1 is obvious
    point 2 is FL and La refugees/evacuees fled to Texas, suffering floods all over again
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited August 2017
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Houston without zoning regulations as well. And Trump rolled back Obama's infrastructure flood regulations. Not that that impacts what is happening today but hey, lets not plan for rising sea levels and more severe weather because you know, awe shucks, its God's plan. The Texas delegation should be reminded of their viewpoint from Hurricane Sandy, often and repeatedly. Has anyone asked Senator Cruz what's different this time around?
    one might argue that the fed government shouldn't subsidize a persons choice to live in homes built at or just above sea level near coastal waters that are prone to flooding.  
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    pjhawks said:
    too early to politicize this.  those people in that region are suffering a monumental event that won't let up for 3 or 4 more days.  Let's worry and give our thoughts to those people first before politicizing. it's a horrible situation.
    well said...have you considered running for office?
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    CM189191 said:
    pjhawks said:
    too early to politicize this.  those people in that region are suffering a monumental event that won't let up for 3 or 4 more days.  Let's worry and give our thoughts to those people first before politicizing. it's a horrible situation.
    well said...have you considered running for office?
    no, i don't think i could thrive in the racket. too much ass kissing and deals to be made to get elected.

    it's so hard to even fathom getting over 40 inches of rain within a just 4 or 5 days.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    pjhawks said:
    CM189191 said:
    pjhawks said:
    too early to politicize this.  those people in that region are suffering a monumental event that won't let up for 3 or 4 more days.  Let's worry and give our thoughts to those people first before politicizing. it's a horrible situation.
    well said...have you considered running for office?
    no, i don't think i could thrive in the racket. too much ass kissing and deals to be made to get elected.

    it's so hard to even fathom getting over 40 inches of rain within a just 4 or 5 days.
    a fathom is 72 inches
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    CM189191 said:
    pjhawks said:
    CM189191 said:
    pjhawks said:
    too early to politicize this.  those people in that region are suffering a monumental event that won't let up for 3 or 4 more days.  Let's worry and give our thoughts to those people first before politicizing. it's a horrible situation.
    well said...have you considered running for office?
    no, i don't think i could thrive in the racket. too much ass kissing and deals to be made to get elected.

    it's so hard to even fathom getting over 40 inches of rain within a just 4 or 5 days.
    a fathom is 72 inches
    Bonus question: How many fathoms are in a shot?
  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,692
    edited August 2017
    This looks like Louisiana last year. "500 year storm". 40k left homeless.  Worst disaster since Sandy.  This could top that if it hasn't already. 

    One problem with unprecedented flooding is so many people won't have flood insurance.  Last year the max payout from FEMA was $33k per household if you dont have flood insurance.  That doesn't go far when you've lost your home or have to gut and replace everything.  I know middleclass folks who had to clean out their 401k's and take massive loans just to rebuild. Imagine lower class folks.  

    Help these folks out anyway you can.  Loved seeing communities coming together last year.  No race or class bias. Just strangers going into neighborhoods and helping other people rebuild. 
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,085
    stuckinline said:
    pjhawks said:
    too early to politicize this.  those people in that region are suffering a monumental event that won't let up for 3 or 4 more days.  Let's worry and give our thoughts to those people first before politicizing. it's a horrible situation.
    I agree, I did not intent to politicize this horrible situation. The photo I posted made me so very sad. Sorry if it offended anyone.
    Let's wait for trump to take the lead on politicizing this in the next few days, and then we'll chime in. 
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    My uncle lived in Rockport where the eye hit.  He didn't leave because the last one that they hyped he took his RV inland and was in a tornado storm while the coast took little damage.  Anywho, got a text Saturday that the town had been leveled and he was going to try to move inland but have not heard back from him since then.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    Jason P said:
    My uncle lived in Rockport where the eye hit.  He didn't leave because the last one that they hyped he took his RV inland and was in a tornado storm while the coast took little damage.  Anywho, got a text Saturday that the town had been leveled and he was going to try to move inland but have not heard back from him since then.
    After Katrina hit I heed the warnings now.

    I hope your uncle is ok.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    Jason P said:
    My uncle lived in Rockport where the eye hit.  He didn't leave because the last one that they hyped he took his RV inland and was in a tornado storm while the coast took little damage.  Anywho, got a text Saturday that the town had been leveled and he was going to try to move inland but have not heard back from him since then.
    Shit. Well at least you heard from him after the town was leveled, so you know he wasn't leveled along with it. Hope he's dealing with things okay! I imagine it will be a long hard road back to normalcy for a lot of people affected. Floods are just so fucking devastating. :frowning:
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Lyon Ted!

    https://youtu.be/MB_HqNfPwi8
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    everybody makes money on urban sprawl, then more on rebuild. water has nowhere to go except on streets and in homes.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/538251/
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,085
    JC29856 said:
    everybody makes money on urban sprawl, then more on rebuild. water has nowhere to go except on streets and in homes.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/538251/
    It's a horribly designed city, but proponents will tell you about the affordable housing and sketchy zoning laws. 
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    just in time

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/harvey-texas-insurance-claims-hailstorm-law-harder-gain-full-compensation-contested-claims-a7917346.html
  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,447
    Jason P said:
    My uncle lived in Rockport where the eye hit.  He didn't leave because the last one that they hyped he took his RV inland and was in a tornado storm while the coast took little damage.  Anywho, got a text Saturday that the town had been leveled and he was going to try to move inland but have not heard back from him since then.
    I hope he's ok. 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,031
    stuckinline said:
    pjhawks said:
    too early to politicize this.  those people in that region are suffering a monumental event that won't let up for 3 or 4 more days.  Let's worry and give our thoughts to those people first before politicizing. it's a horrible situation.
    I agree, I did not intent to politicize this horrible situation. The photo I posted made me so very sad. Sorry if it offended anyone.
    I didn't take the photo as politicizing or offensive, stuckinline.  I found it sad as well.  My Mom was in a home like that one. Even though she's been gone over 13 years now I thought of her when I saw that photo and realized, shit, this is terribly sad.  This is someones mom.  No, I was not offended at all.
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  • AnnafalkAnnafalk Posts: 4,004
    My thoughts and prayers to all affected. 
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/08/climatedesk-theres-an-unbearable-chemical-smell-hovering-over-parts-of-houston-and-experts-are-worried/

    Houston areas are pretty much toxic, air, land and sea!
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