Taking Offense - Has It Gone Off The Rails?

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,206
    unsung said:
    Losers shouldn't have statues erected and be glorified. They're losers. They lost.
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ONPosts: 6,814
    unsung said:
    Losers shouldn't have statues erected and be glorified. They're losers. They lost.
    I think that's pretty binary thinking. What if you 'lose' but had noble pursuits? You wouldn't honour those 'losers'?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,206
    benjs said:
    unsung said:
    Losers shouldn't have statues erected and be glorified. They're losers. They lost.
    I think that's pretty binary thinking. What if you 'lose' but had noble pursuits? You wouldn't honour those 'losers'?
    Have any examples?
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 409
    benjs said:
    unsung said:
    Losers shouldn't have statues erected and be glorified. They're losers. They lost.
    I think that's pretty binary thinking. What if you 'lose' but had noble pursuits? You wouldn't honour those 'losers'?
    Have any examples?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,206
    OnWis97 said:
    benjs said:
    unsung said:
    Losers shouldn't have statues erected and be glorified. They're losers. They lost.
    I think that's pretty binary thinking. What if you 'lose' but had noble pursuits? You wouldn't honour those 'losers'?
    Have any examples?
    Pearl Jam Vs. Ticketmaster.
    Are there statues of Pearl Jam?
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,725
    unsung said:
    Losers shouldn't have statues erected and be glorified. They're losers. They lost.
    Tear down the Wall in DC for the Vietnam War then.  See how that goes for you.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,206
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Losers shouldn't have statues erected and be glorified. They're losers. They lost.
    Tear down the Wall in DC for the Vietnam War then.  See how that goes for you.
    Vietnam was a US led war that was fought on behalf of the US, whether you agreed with it or not. Jefferson Davis was a loser who tried to cleeve the nation in two. False comparison.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,206
    I don't think I've heard anyone claim we should remove commerations or memorials to the war dead, of any conflict. Unless I'm missing something?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,206
    The equivalency might be if there were a statue erected of General Westmoreland or McNamara. Or Johnson or Nixon. Feel free to write your representatives advocating for such.
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 8,770
    OnWis97 said:
    Of course it has.  You don't have the right not to be offended.  Many people can't hear anything that they don't agree with and not go into the fetal position.  It's probably our ability to use the internet to go into echo chambers; dissent and dialogue are rarely seen anymore and when they come about, we don't know how to handle it.  

    And the right has made a killing on it.  "PC" has become nearly synonymous with "liberals" (and the 400 synonyms used to dismiss rather than discuss).  Liberals need a safe space.  They are intolerant.  Etc. But it's not the left that melts down because Colin Kaepernick does not practice patriotism the way the rest of us do.  The right hates how easily offended people are, until they are as easily offended, then it somehow doesn't count.  The only difference between the Kaepernick issue and all these other things that cause the right to rant about the SJWs is that now they are offended.  And somehow the hypocrisy is barely acknowledged.  All credit to them; they've totally co-opted it to their own advantage. 
    Beautiful post!
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 36,172
    Right...but it's all about the level of outrage.  To immediately call for her to be fired from anything and be shunned for life...that's the fake outrage that drives me nuts.  
    Seriously, there is more outrage in America right now directed towards Kathy Griffin for an offensive photo than there is for real beheadings of homosexuals and women who were raped in the middle east.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 5,527
    PJ_Soul said:
    Right...but it's all about the level of outrage.  To immediately call for her to be fired from anything and be shunned for life...that's the fake outrage that drives me nuts.  
    Seriously, there is more outrage in America right now directed towards Kathy Griffin for an offensive photo than there is for real beheadings of homosexuals and women who were raped in the middle east.
    Or for Chrisitians killing Muslims in Africa. 
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 36,172
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    PJ_Soul said:
    Right...but it's all about the level of outrage.  To immediately call for her to be fired from anything and be shunned for life...that's the fake outrage that drives me nuts.  
    Seriously, there is more outrage in America right now directed towards Kathy Griffin for an offensive photo than there is for real beheadings of homosexuals and women who were raped in the middle east.
    Or for Chrisitians killing Muslims in Africa. 
    Or for Muslims killing Christians in Africa, for that matter. Nobody really cares what happens over there in general as far as I can tell. But a stupid photo with a prop in it sends people into a tizzy. It's ridiculous. And what's going on with that Russia investigation thing? Who knows? Who cares? Everyone is too busy being upset with Kathy fucking Griffin. Trump should be giving her a medal, not condemning her, lol.
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 8,770
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Right...but it's all about the level of outrage.  To immediately call for her to be fired from anything and be shunned for life...that's the fake outrage that drives me nuts.  
    Seriously, there is more outrage in America right now directed towards Kathy Griffin for an offensive photo than there is for real beheadings of homosexuals and women who were raped in the middle east.
    Or for Chrisitians killing Muslims in Africa. 
    Of for Muslims killing Christians in Africa, for that matter. Nobody really cares what happens over there in general as far as I can tell. But a stupid photo with a prop in it send people into a tizzy. It's ridiculous. And what's going on with that Russia investigation thing? Who knows? Who cares? Everyone is too busy being upset with Kathy fucking Griffin. Trump should be giving her a medal, not condemning her, lol.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,725
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Losers shouldn't have statues erected and be glorified. They're losers. They lost.
    Tear down the Wall in DC for the Vietnam War then.  See how that goes for you.
    Vietnam was a US led war that was fought on behalf of the US, whether you agreed with it or not. Jefferson Davis was a loser who tried to cleeve the nation in two. False comparison.
    Nice revisionist history.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,206
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Losers shouldn't have statues erected and be glorified. They're losers. They lost.
    Tear down the Wall in DC for the Vietnam War then.  See how that goes for you.
    Vietnam was a US led war that was fought on behalf of the US, whether you agreed with it or not. Jefferson Davis was a loser who tried to cleeve the nation in two. False comparison.
    Nice revisionist history.
    Somebody's white pride hurting?
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,725
    How is that an issue?  Do you say that to black people that have Black Pride or Hispanics that have Brown Pride?
  • riley540riley540 Bellingham WAPosts: 568
    Is it bad that I'm proud to be a white male? Feel like that's a bad thing.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,725
    Yeah, apparently you should have guilt and if you don't you're a racist now.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,206
    Is being white and proud something you accomplished?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,206
    unsung said:
    Yeah, apparently you should have guilt and if you don't you're a racist now.
    Are you proud that you fear elimination of the white race?
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  • dignindignin Posts: 5,028
    riley540 said:
    Is it bad that I'm proud to be a white male? Feel like that's a bad thing.
    Why do you need to qualify that by using words like white and male?

    Personally I can be proud of the person I am, but I don't tie it to my gender or race....cause that's fucked up.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 5,854
    riley540 said:
    Is it bad that I'm proud to be a white male? Feel like that's a bad thing.
    You were born white. You were born male. Since those things were handed to you, why on earth would you be proud of them? They aren't accomplishments.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,725
    Then it isn't anything to be ashamed of or told to feel guilt because of it either.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 8,812
    unsung said:
    Then it isn't anything to be ashamed of or told to feel guilt because of it either.
    Literally no one is saying you should be ashamed or feel guilty.
    Those are concepts you (and your ilk) created when you couldn't confront the idea that society has endowed you with benefits that others don't have, because it's easier to mock ideas that make you uncomfortable than to address them seriously.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,725
    Like reparations for slavery?

    No, that should not be taken seriously, at all.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 8,812
    unsung said:
    Like reparations for slavery?

    No, that should not be taken seriously, at all.

    Again, it's easier to mock ideas than to debate them with intelligence and respect.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 5,527
    riley540 said:
    Is it bad that I'm proud to be a white male? Feel like that's a bad thing.
    What about being a white guy makes you proud?
  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,725
    rgambs said:
    unsung said:
    Like reparations for slavery?

    No, that should not be taken seriously, at all.

    Again, it's easier to mock ideas than to debate them with intelligence and respect.
    It's a non-starter.
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