Taking Offense - Has It Gone Off The Rails?

rgambs

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

I have heard many new terms this past year.

Micro aggressions
Safe space

Those two are the most ridiculous.

The worst one I heard was white genocide.

I think bootlicker, statist, and overlord are up there too!
None of those are remotely as asinine as cuck and beta.

Bentleyspop

rgambs said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

I have heard many new terms this past year.

Micro aggressions
Safe space

Those two are the most ridiculous.

The worst one I heard was white genocide.

I think bootlicker, statist, and overlord are up there too!
None of those are remotely as asinine as cuck and beta.

You forgot globalist and snowflake

tbergs

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

unsung said:

Screw political correctness.

I was reading a book (about interjections, oddly enough) yesterday which included the phrase “In these days of political correctness…” talking about no longer making jokes that denigrated people for their culture or for the colour of their skin. And I thought, “That’s not actually anything to do with ‘political correctness’. That’s just treating other people with respect.”

Which made me oddly happy. I started imagining a world in which we replaced the phrase “politically correct” wherever we could with “treating other people with respect”, and it made me smile.

You should try it. It’s peculiarly enlightening.

I know what you’re thinking now. You’re thinking “Oh my god, that’s treating other people with respect gone mad!”

-Neil Gaiman

Sandman author. Nice.

Best. Author. Living. Always look forward to something new from him. My bookshelf is adorned with The Sandman masterpieces in the hardcover omnibus edition.

unsung

"Student Union: Use ‘Jazz Hands’ Instead Of Clapping Or Face ‘Consequences’"


http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/28/student-union-use-jazz-hands-instead-of-clapping-or-face-consequences/

eddiec

HughFreakingDillon said:

now, to @unsung end, this is a perfect example of political correctness has gone off the rails:

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/04/27/manitoba-licence-plate_n_16303128.html

Manitoba Revokes 'Star Trek' Licence Plate Deemed Offensive

WINNIPEG — Manitoba Public Insurance has revoked a Star Trek fan's personalized licence plate after receiving complaints that its message — ASIMIL8 — is offensive to indigenous people.

Nick Troller has been driving around with the plate for two years.

It's held within a Star Trek licence frame that also bears the quotes, "We are the Borg," and "Resistance is Futile."

Troller tells CTV Winnipeg that on his favourite show, an enemy race of aliens called the Borg travel through the galaxy trying to assimilate other cultures into their own.


He says he thought the plate was funny and notes strangers and other Trek fans have complimented him and asked to take photos with the plate.

But Troller got a phone call Wednesday from a staff member at Manitoba Public Insurance who told him two people had complained that the word "assimilate" is offensive to indigenous people.

He also received a letter from MPI on Thursday demanding he "surrender" the plate immediately, telling him he can either get a new plate or a refund on the $100 charge.

"Words like that, meant or not, have an actual impact on many people."
"But that's not the point," says Troller. "We've become way too sensitive. You can't say anything anymore to anybody."

Ry Moran, from the National Centre for Truth and Reconciliation, insists the word "assimilate" is too offensive to be on a licence plate.

"For basically the entirety of this country's history, indigenous peoples have been forcibly assimilated through really extremely destructive means and ways," he says.

"Words like that, meant or not, have an actual impact on many people."

MPI's policy states that "plates cannot contain a slogan that could be considered offensive." MPI says it takes such complaints "very seriously" and will investigate why the plate was approved in the first place.

Licence plates are property of the Crown and there is no appeal process.


Troller's situation is reminiscent of a controversy in Nova Scotia, where a man named Lorne Grabher's personalized GRABHER plate was revoked after a complaint that it was offensive to women.

The Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms said earlier this month that it plans to sue the Nova Scotia government over the revocation, which it sees as an infringement on freedom of expression.

The JCCF's John Carpay said the GRABHER licence plate revocation is part of a wider trend in Canadian society.

"Canadians are becoming increasingly less tolerant of free expression," he said. "You have more and more people who believe that they have a legal right to go through life without seeing or without hearing things they find to be offensive."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDiZefRj78g

Halifax2TheMax

Talk about being offended:

mattsl1983

So the facts are they are typically subjected to longer jail sentences. With these cases are they factoring in things such as gang affiliation, 2nd time offenders? Both of which get you extra time. I would also venture to say that longer jail sentences for crimes committed is not systemic oppression. I think a better argument for systemic oppression would be to look to see if there is an oppression of jobs, access to healthcare, access to education, things like that. I don't know the numbers, that's why I asked for anyone arguing for it to bring something of substance.

As for the guy that says use google, when you google it you get a pretty even amount of resources that say it does, and doesn't. Google is only good if you are hell bent that you are right and ignore anything that disagrees with you.

And the dude that says doesn't agree with my pro Trump, what does Trump have to do with this? Why are you even bringing him up?

Halifax2TheMax

mattsl1983 said:

So the facts are they are typically subjected to longer jail sentences. With these cases are they factoring in things such as gang affiliation, 2nd time offenders? Both of which get you extra time. I would also venture to say that longer jail sentences for crimes committed is not systemic oppression. I think a better argument for systemic oppression would be to look to see if there is an oppression of jobs, access to healthcare, access to education, things like that. I don't know the numbers, that's why I asked for anyone arguing for it to bring something of substance.

As for the guy that says use google, when you google it you get a pretty even amount of resources that say it does, and doesn't. Google is only good if you are hell bent that you are right and ignore anything that disagrees with you.

And the dude that says doesn't agree with my pro Trump, what does Trump have to do with this? Why are you even bringing him up?

What term did you google to determine "it?"

Halifax2TheMax

@mattsl1983, what would you call it?

http://www.epi.org/publication/african-americans-are-paid-less-than-whites-at-every-education-level/

https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2015/mobile/median-weekly-earnings-by-education-gender-race-and-ethnicity-in-2014.htm

oftenreading

mattsl1983 said:

So the facts are they are typically subjected to longer jail sentences. With these cases are they factoring in things such as gang affiliation, 2nd time offenders? Both of which get you extra time. I would also venture to say that longer jail sentences for crimes committed is not systemic oppression. I think a better argument for systemic oppression would be to look to see if there is an oppression of jobs, access to healthcare, access to education, things like that. I don't know the numbers, that's why I asked for anyone arguing for it to bring something of substance.

As for the guy that says use google, when you google it you get a pretty even amount of resources that say it does, and doesn't. Google is only good if you are hell bent that you are right and ignore anything that disagrees with you.

And the dude that says doesn't agree with my pro Trump, what does Trump have to do with this? Why are you even bringing him up?

Things like repeat offending and other relevant factors are included in these analyses.

rgambs

mattsl1983 said:

So the facts are they are typically subjected to longer jail sentences. With these cases are they factoring in things such as gang affiliation, 2nd time offenders? Both of which get you extra time. I would also venture to say that longer jail sentences for crimes committed is not systemic oppression. I think a better argument for systemic oppression would be to look to see if there is an oppression of jobs, access to healthcare, access to education, things like that. I don't know the numbers, that's why I asked for anyone arguing for it to bring something of substance.

As for the guy that says use google, when you google it you get a pretty even amount of resources that say it does, and doesn't. Google is only good if you are hell bent that you are right and ignore anything that disagrees with you.

And the dude that says doesn't agree with my pro Trump, what does Trump have to do with this? Why are you even bringing him up?

Access to education is probably the most well-known example!

unsung

Another.

There are 67 genders.

mattsl1983

rgambs said:

mattsl1983 said:

So the facts are they are typically subjected to longer jail sentences. With these cases are they factoring in things such as gang affiliation, 2nd time offenders? Both of which get you extra time. I would also venture to say that longer jail sentences for crimes committed is not systemic oppression. I think a better argument for systemic oppression would be to look to see if there is an oppression of jobs, access to healthcare, access to education, things like that. I don't know the numbers, that's why I asked for anyone arguing for it to bring something of substance.

As for the guy that says use google, when you google it you get a pretty even amount of resources that say it does, and doesn't. Google is only good if you are hell bent that you are right and ignore anything that disagrees with you.

And the dude that says doesn't agree with my pro Trump, what does Trump have to do with this? Why are you even bringing him up?

Access to education is probably the most well-known example!

Please explain.

mattsl1983

Halifax2TheMax said:

@mattsl1983, what would you call it?

http://www.epi.org/publication/african-americans-are-paid-less-than-whites-at-every-education-level/

https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2015/mobile/median-weekly-earnings-by-education-gender-race-and-ethnicity-in-2014.htm

You do know that the resources used were from a survey. Nothing concret.

rgambs

mattsl1983 said:

rgambs said:

mattsl1983 said:

So the facts are they are typically subjected to longer jail sentences. With these cases are they factoring in things such as gang affiliation, 2nd time offenders? Both of which get you extra time. I would also venture to say that longer jail sentences for crimes committed is not systemic oppression. I think a better argument for systemic oppression would be to look to see if there is an oppression of jobs, access to healthcare, access to education, things like that. I don't know the numbers, that's why I asked for anyone arguing for it to bring something of substance.

As for the guy that says use google, when you google it you get a pretty even amount of resources that say it does, and doesn't. Google is only good if you are hell bent that you are right and ignore anything that disagrees with you.

And the dude that says doesn't agree with my pro Trump, what does Trump have to do with this? Why are you even bringing him up?

Access to education is probably the most well-known example!

Please explain.

Access to adequate education for minority children is such a well-known problem that it exists as a common theme in our collective consciousness as a society.
The very term "inner city schools" is fraught with negative connotations that make virtually any American picture black students sharing outdated textbooks in graffiti covered schools filled with violence and empty of technology.

There are encyclopedias worth of hard data backing the disparity in education.

mattsl1983

rgambs said:

mattsl1983 said:

rgambs said:

mattsl1983 said:

So the facts are they are typically subjected to longer jail sentences. With these cases are they factoring in things such as gang affiliation, 2nd time offenders? Both of which get you extra time. I would also venture to say that longer jail sentences for crimes committed is not systemic oppression. I think a better argument for systemic oppression would be to look to see if there is an oppression of jobs, access to healthcare, access to education, things like that. I don't know the numbers, that's why I asked for anyone arguing for it to bring something of substance.

As for the guy that says use google, when you google it you get a pretty even amount of resources that say it does, and doesn't. Google is only good if you are hell bent that you are right and ignore anything that disagrees with you.

And the dude that says doesn't agree with my pro Trump, what does Trump have to do with this? Why are you even bringing him up?

Access to education is probably the most well-known example!

Please explain.

Access to adequate education for minority children is such a well-known problem that it exists as a common theme in our collective consciousness as a society.
The very term "inner city schools" is fraught with negative connotations that make virtually any American picture black students sharing outdated textbooks in graffiti covered schools filled with violence and empty of technology.

There are encyclopedias worth of hard data backing the disparity in education.

Wouldn't that have more to do with income than race? If I'm not mistaken, aren't there also other ethnicities that attend these schools? Your middle paragraph is a complete opinion piece by the way.

Halifax2TheMax

mattsl1983 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

@mattsl1983, what would you call it?

http://www.epi.org/publication/african-americans-are-paid-less-than-whites-at-every-education-level/

https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2015/mobile/median-weekly-earnings-by-education-gender-race-and-ethnicity-in-2014.htm

You do know that the resources used were from a survey. Nothing concret.

Yea, can't trust the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Everyone knows their surveys are biased. Why did I know that you'd dismiss evidence? What do you want? Personal anecdotes of being oppressed?

mattsl1983

Halifax2TheMax said:

mattsl1983 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

@mattsl1983, what would you call it?

http://www.epi.org/publication/african-americans-are-paid-less-than-whites-at-every-education-level/

https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2015/mobile/median-weekly-earnings-by-education-gender-race-and-ethnicity-in-2014.htm

You do know that the resources used were from a survey. Nothing concret.

Yea, can't trust the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Everyone knows their surveys are biased. Why did I know that you'd dismiss evidence? What do you want? Personal anecdotes of being oppressed?

Surveys can be misleading, we all know that. I'm not dismissing it, just stating the source. You would think that a think tank or some institution would actually do research and have hard evidence. Systemic oppression is a very bold and heavy statement. Not a buzzword to be thrown around. I just figured that someone who believes it is happening would have some good solid proof, and not just say yea and then frantically use google to find something to back up the claim. Just looking for some truth is all.

InHiding80

unsung said:

Another.

There are 67 genders.

And twice as much hyperbolic partisan hackery bs from you!

Halifax2TheMax

Yea, sure, let's rely on biased think tanks as opposed to non-partisan government agencies. Perhaps you can link to some of that google research that shows it doesn't exist, seeing that you made the claim. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to retire to my library and search for the report that unequivocally proves for you that oppression exists. I'm sure you'll accept it once I find it. And after you've finished linking to your google sources that back your claim, would you mind defining "today" and "it?" My stacks are long and deep and it'll reduce my search time. Thank you.