Taking Offense - Has It Gone Off The Rails?

unsung

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

I have heard many new terms this past year.

Micro aggressions
Safe space

Those two are the most ridiculous.

The worst one I heard was white genocide.

I think you meant white guilt.

White guild is another bogus one that righties use to deny racism.

Nah, it is a term liberals use to play the victim card.

You're saying that liberals refer to themselves as having "white guilt" when talking about racism? Haven't seen that.

No, it is what liberals call those that are out being providers.

CM189191

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

I have heard many new terms this past year.

Micro aggressions
Safe space

Those two are the most ridiculous.

The worst one I heard was white genocide.

I think you meant white guilt.

White guild is another bogus one that righties use to deny racism.

Nah, it is a term liberals use to play the victim card.

You're saying that liberals refer to themselves as having "white guilt" when talking about racism? Haven't seen that.

No, it is what liberals call those that are out being providers.

I forget, are those the makers or the takers?

Go Beavers

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

I have heard many new terms this past year.

Micro aggressions
Safe space

Those two are the most ridiculous.

The worst one I heard was white genocide.

I think you meant white guilt.

White guild is another bogus one that righties use to deny racism.

Nah, it is a term liberals use to play the victim card.

You're saying that liberals refer to themselves as having "white guilt" when talking about racism? Haven't seen that.

No, it is what liberals call those that are out being providers.

Now you're making less sense. They use the term to play the victim card and label the providers? Who are "the providers" anyway?

Halifax2TheMax

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

I have heard many new terms this past year.

Micro aggressions
Safe space

Those two are the most ridiculous.

The worst one I heard was white genocide.

I think you meant white guilt.

White guild is another bogus one that righties use to deny racism.

Nah, it is a term liberals use to play the victim card.

You're saying that liberals refer to themselves as having "white guilt" when talking about racism? Haven't seen that.

No, it is what liberals call those that are out being providers.

Now you're making less sense. They use the term to play the victim card and label the providers? Who are "the providers" anyway?

White and employed, I reckon.

mattsl1983

White guilt is the individual or collective guilt felt by some white people for harm resulting from racist treatment of ethnic minorities by other white people both historically and currently.

unsung

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

I have heard many new terms this past year.

Micro aggressions
Safe space

Those two are the most ridiculous.

The worst one I heard was white genocide.

I think you meant white guilt.

White guild is another bogus one that righties use to deny racism.

Nah, it is a term liberals use to play the victim card.

You're saying that liberals refer to themselves as having "white guilt" when talking about racism? Haven't seen that.

No, it is what liberals call those that are out being providers.

Now you're making less sense. They use the term to play the victim card and label the providers? Who are "the providers" anyway?

The opposite of consumers.

The victim card is played by the left when they label everyone not having "white privilege" a victim to whitey.

I know what I paid in taxes last year, is that my "white privilege" too? It is a complete bs term made up to justify shortfalls of other groups.

Equal rights doesn't mean equal results. Get to work and earn it.

my2hands

Halifax2TheMax said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

I have heard many new terms this past year.

Micro aggressions
Safe space

Those two are the most ridiculous.

The worst one I heard was white genocide.

I think you meant white guilt.

White guild is another bogus one that righties use to deny racism.

Nah, it is a term liberals use to play the victim card.

You're saying that liberals refer to themselves as having "white guilt" when talking about racism? Haven't seen that.

No, it is what liberals call those that are out being providers.

Now you're making less sense. They use the term to play the victim card and label the providers? Who are "the providers" anyway?

White and employed, I reckon.

But I thought this election was about all the uneducated white people being unemployed or underemployed?

I'm confused... but recent polls have shown most right wing voters have zero attachment/awareness/interest in concrete facts... so maybe I shouldn't be confused

HughFreakingDillon

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

I have heard many new terms this past year.

Micro aggressions
Safe space

Those two are the most ridiculous.

The worst one I heard was white genocide.

I think you meant white guilt.

White guild is another bogus one that righties use to deny racism.

Nah, it is a term liberals use to play the victim card.

You're saying that liberals refer to themselves as having "white guilt" when talking about racism? Haven't seen that.

No, it is what liberals call those that are out being providers.

Now you're making less sense. They use the term to play the victim card and label the providers? Who are "the providers" anyway?

The opposite of consumers.

The victim card is played by the left when they label everyone not having "white privilege" a victim to whitey.

I know what I paid in taxes last year, is that my "white privilege" too? It is a complete bs term made up to justify shortfalls of other groups.

Equal rights doesn't mean equal results. Get to work and earn it.

'shortfalls of other groups'

and how do you suppose that happened? entire groups of people not being as successful? hmmm.....let's see......

they will get to work when they are given the opportunity. "wah, my ancestors had the same opportunities they have, and they didn't bitch". yeah, they also weren't victim to systematic oppression.

yes, paying more taxes is actually white privelege. you make more, you get taxed more.

that's like complaining about having to take a bigger shit because you have more to eat.

mattsl1983

Systematic oppression has also become a hot trendy buzzword as of late. Is there any factual evidence to back it up?

mattsl1983

To clear up any confusion, any factual evidence of sytematic oppression today? Yes it has happened in the past, but how about today?

CM189191

mattsl1983 said:

To clear up any confusion, any factual evidence of sytematic oppression today? Yes it has happened in the past, but how about today?

Not at all. For example, minorities are no longer disproportionately arrested and prosecuted more severely than the rest of the population. It's mostly just because they are raised in broken urban homes without fathers and are more prone to criminal lifestyle.

Go Beavers

mattsl1983 said:

To clear up any confusion, any factual evidence of sytematic oppression today? Yes it has happened in the past, but how about today?

Racism and discrimination no longer exists? This is the best news I've heard all day.

Go Beavers

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

I have heard many new terms this past year.

Micro aggressions
Safe space

Those two are the most ridiculous.

The worst one I heard was white genocide.

I think you meant white guilt.

White guild is another bogus one that righties use to deny racism.

Nah, it is a term liberals use to play the victim card.

You're saying that liberals refer to themselves as having "white guilt" when talking about racism? Haven't seen that.

No, it is what liberals call those that are out being providers.

Now you're making less sense. They use the term to play the victim card and label the providers? Who are "the providers" anyway?

The opposite of consumers.

The victim card is played by the left when they label everyone not having "white privilege" a victim to whitey.

I know what I paid in taxes last year, is that my "white privilege" too? It is a complete bs term made up to justify shortfalls of other groups.

Equal rights doesn't mean equal results. Get to work and earn it.

Since racism exists, that means another group benefits. That's just a statement of fact. White privilege plays out in your statement about getting to work. There's fewer barriers for white people with regard to getting a job and progressing when their at a job. Therefore it's easier for us to "earn it". Now this is where the white privilege deniers get in a huff and puff because they think I'm minimizing their hard work.

mattsl1983

Go Beavers said:

mattsl1983 said:

To clear up any confusion, any factual evidence of sytematic oppression today? Yes it has happened in the past, but how about today?

Racism and discrimination no longer exists? This is the best news I've heard all day.

So using the word racism is factual evidence of systemic oppression? You seem to just throw out key buzz words without any thought process, then hide behind sarcasm. Very insightful.

CM189191

mattsl1983 said:

To clear up any confusion, any factual evidence of sytematic oppression today? Yes it has happened in the past, but how about today?

How very ignorant. Was this a serious question? Or was it sarcasm?

Go Beavers

mattsl1983 said:

Go Beavers said:

mattsl1983 said:

To clear up any confusion, any factual evidence of sytematic oppression today? Yes it has happened in the past, but how about today?

Racism and discrimination no longer exists? This is the best news I've heard all day.

So using the word racism is factual evidence of systemic oppression? You seem to just throw out key buzz words without any thought process, then hide behind sarcasm. Very insightful.

Maybe it would help if you defined what you mean by systematic oppression then. That will help my thought process.

PJ_Soul

Yes, there is a lot of factual evidence of systematic oppression today. Just look at America's policing, criminal justice, and prison systems for that evidence.

InHiding80

jeffbr said:

InHiding80 said:

CM189191 said:

PBS had a good documentary on last night about whether people are allowed to joke about the Holocaust.

Pretty interesting perspective: http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/films/last-laugh/

It's all about context. Hell, Mel Brooks played a Nazi in To Be Or Not To Be and he's Jewish!

Mel Brooks wouldn't be able to make movies in this day and age. Between that Nazi scene, and Cleavon Little's line in Blazing Saddles, those films intentionally challenged us, made us a little uncomfortable, but also were funny as hell. But we're beyond the point where those films would be acceptable today. There would be boycotts, apologies from actors and studios, and probably even demonstrations. Oh, well. Speech was fun while it lasted.

oftenreading said:

jeffbr said:

InHiding80 said:

The problem is that the left is too pc and the right is too extremist pic. You can be pic without being a Nazi fascist alt right punk and be a civilized person without being a humorless whiny baby. I prefer my anti alt right in the mold of old school r rated humor like Carlin, not today's neolibs.

Agreed!

And universities, once the bastion of free speech and the exploration and free exchange of ideas, have now turned into hyper-sensitive institutions that suppress speech and focus on ensuring that nobody is exposed to anything that may slightly offend even the most sensitive millennial college student. Micro aggressions and triggers everywhere! Professors being reprimanded for challenging ideas, speakers uninvited if anyone makes noise. Idiot college students will unfortunately remain idiots if they are not able to deal with counter-opinions. I'm not sure how they'll even survive the real world outside of the emotional safe space they attempt to create on campus.

American universities, you mean.

Absolutely.

You can say the N word in a historical context and have it be pg13 now. Just look at 42 and Ray. Saddles is historical so it could be pg13 today.

InHiding80

jeffbr said:

InHiding80 said:

CM189191 said:

PBS had a good documentary on last night about whether people are allowed to joke about the Holocaust.

Pretty interesting perspective: http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/films/last-laugh/

It's all about context. Hell, Mel Brooks played a Nazi in To Be Or Not To Be and he's Jewish!

Mel Brooks wouldn't be able to make movies in this day and age. Between that Nazi scene, and Cleavon Little's line in Blazing Saddles, those films intentionally challenged us, made us a little uncomfortable, but also were funny as hell. But we're beyond the point where those films would be acceptable today. There would be boycotts, apologies from actors and studios, and probably even demonstrations. Oh, well. Speech was fun while it lasted.

oftenreading said:

jeffbr said:

InHiding80 said:

The problem is that the left is too pc and the right is too extremist pic. You can be pic without being a Nazi fascist alt right punk and be a civilized person without being a humorless whiny baby. I prefer my anti alt right in the mold of old school r rated humor like Carlin, not today's neolibs.

Agreed!

And universities, once the bastion of free speech and the exploration and free exchange of ideas, have now turned into hyper-sensitive institutions that suppress speech and focus on ensuring that nobody is exposed to anything that may slightly offend even the most sensitive millennial college student. Micro aggressions and triggers everywhere! Professors being reprimanded for challenging ideas, speakers uninvited if anyone makes noise. Idiot college students will unfortunately remain idiots if they are not able to deal with counter-opinions. I'm not sure how they'll even survive the real world outside of the emotional safe space they attempt to create on campus.

American universities, you mean.

Absolutely.

It's because people don't understand context. Remember the outrage when Tropic Thunder came out? That movie was making fun of those who get into their roles too much to get the Oscar like Penn did, not handicapped people themselves.

InHiding80

mattsl1983 said:

To clear up any confusion, any factual evidence of sytematic oppression today? Yes it has happened in the past, but how about today?