The Washington Post is giving you a couple of pinocchios
How does what two candidates claim in a debate make what I said not factual? And as is typical of the neocon way of thinking, you neglect the subtleties of the article you linked, namely that it's more complicated than what or how both candidates described the situation or gave their answers. So, professor, what did I say, specifically, that would earn pinnochios? Reading comprehension is key or reading is fundamental.
6,252 < 170,000 which is what you advocated for and believed needed to be done to establish the democracy. I know it galls you neocons to no end that the social organizer, Harvard law school educated black man saw and implemented the technological prowess of our armed forces in such a way as to be successful whereas your yalie educated, white NG pilot who supposedly flew jets and dropped ordinance didn't grasp the fundamentals of military strategy by going easy with drones, special forces and technology. Heck, he disbanded the Bin Laden unit. Looks to me that the whole adventure was a Halliburton profit grab. How long after taking office did Obama get Osama? So Mosul is about to fall, ISIS is a former shell of itself, and we've got 6,252 troops in Iraq. Yup, sounds like a quagmire to me.
Hey, how's that splendid little war in Yemen working out for you?
Don't quit your day job, professor.
Successful? ISIS is a former shell of itself? Splendid little war in Yemen? You are not living in reality.
Wars in Syria and Libya aren't enough? We had no business going there. If you believe we did then you must also believe Iraq was justified.
Check her emails like the rest of the modern world.
Source: Hillary Clinton
People like to pretend that Libya didn't happen. It was a neocon war regime change minus the attempt of nation building after. I mean they attempted it with an ambassador and a handful of operatives but we know how that turned out.
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Well benghazi was how they supplied isis with arms. The CIA was using the place to run their proxy war.
The Washington Post is giving you a couple of pinocchios
How does what two candidates claim in a debate make what I said not factual? And as is typical of the neocon way of thinking, you neglect the subtleties of the article you linked, namely that it's more complicated than what or how both candidates described the situation or gave their answers. So, professor, what did I say, specifically, that would earn pinnochios? Reading comprehension is key or reading is fundamental.
6,252 < 170,000 which is what you advocated for and believed needed to be done to establish the democracy. I know it galls you neocons to no end that the social organizer, Harvard law school educated black man saw and implemented the technological prowess of our armed forces in such a way as to be successful whereas your yalie educated, white NG pilot who supposedly flew jets and dropped ordinance didn't grasp the fundamentals of military strategy by going easy with drones, special forces and technology. Heck, he disbanded the Bin Laden unit. Looks to me that the whole adventure was a Halliburton profit grab. How long after taking office did Obama get Osama? So Mosul is about to fall, ISIS is a former shell of itself, and we've got 6,252 troops in Iraq. Yup, sounds like a quagmire to me.
Hey, how's that splendid little war in Yemen working out for you?
Don't quit your day job, professor.
More evidence of that "successful" withdrawal and ISIS being a "former shell of itself".
How much territory does ISIS hold? What's happened to their top leadership? How many scary beheading videos have we had forced down our throats of late? When was the last attack on foreign soil? Did I say they were eliminated? Even I know that's not possible. You on the other hand, believe that a full size occupying force of 170,000 US troops will bring peace and democracy to the region. All that gets us is more debt and dead American service members. And the cost of this neocon misadventure is north of two trillion, not the piddly billions you claim. Again, let me know when Canada wants to make a similar commitment to clean up America's mess. Saddam in power, rummy's pal, and no fly zones cost a billion a year. Thought you guys were fiscally conservative? The neocon theory of forced regime change by military means is a disasterous foreign policy.
How much territory does ISIS hold? What's happened to their top leadership? How many scary beheading videos have we had forced down our throats of late? When was the last attack on foreign soil? Did I say they were eliminated? Even I know that's not possible. You on the other hand, believe that a full size occupying force of 170,000 US troops will bring peace and democracy to the region. All that gets us is more debt and dead American service members. And the cost of this neocon misadventure is north of two trillion, not the piddly billions you claim. Again, let me know when Canada wants to make a similar commitment to clean up America's mess. Saddam in power, rummy's pal, and no fly zones cost a billion a year. Thought you guys were fiscally conservative? The neocon theory of forced regime change by military means is a disasterous foreign policy.
And yet you are voting for the candidate who embraces that theory.
How much territory does ISIS hold? What's happened to their top leadership? How many scary beheading videos have we had forced down our throats of late? When was the last attack on foreign soil? Did I say they were eliminated? Even I know that's not possible. You on the other hand, believe that a full size occupying force of 170,000 US troops will bring peace and democracy to the region. All that gets us is more debt and dead American service members. And the cost of this neocon misadventure is north of two trillion, not the piddly billions you claim. Again, let me know when Canada wants to make a similar commitment to clean up America's mess. Saddam in power, rummy's pal, and no fly zones cost a billion a year. Thought you guys were fiscally conservative? The neocon theory of forced regime change by military means is a disasterous foreign policy.
And yet you are voting for the candidate who embraces that theory.
Hillary is not going to return to the failed bush doctrine and commit 170,000 US troops to Iraq. Ain't happening.
How much territory does ISIS hold? What's happened to their top leadership? How many scary beheading videos have we had forced down our throats of late? When was the last attack on foreign soil? Did I say they were eliminated? Even I know that's not possible. You on the other hand, believe that a full size occupying force of 170,000 US troops will bring peace and democracy to the region. All that gets us is more debt and dead American service members. And the cost of this neocon misadventure is north of two trillion, not the piddly billions you claim. Again, let me know when Canada wants to make a similar commitment to clean up America's mess. Saddam in power, rummy's pal, and no fly zones cost a billion a year. Thought you guys were fiscally conservative? The neocon theory of forced regime change by military means is a disasterous foreign policy.
And yet you are voting for the candidate who embraces that theory.
Hillary is not going to return to the failed bush doctrine and commit 170,000 US troops to Iraq. Ain't happening.
Of course not. There is no more Iraq to commit troops too. The withdrawal made sure of that.
How much territory does ISIS hold? What's happened to their top leadership? How many scary beheading videos have we had forced down our throats of late? When was the last attack on foreign soil? Did I say they were eliminated? Even I know that's not possible. You on the other hand, believe that a full size occupying force of 170,000 US troops will bring peace and democracy to the region. All that gets us is more debt and dead American service members. And the cost of this neocon misadventure is north of two trillion, not the piddly billions you claim. Again, let me know when Canada wants to make a similar commitment to clean up America's mess. Saddam in power, rummy's pal, and no fly zones cost a billion a year. Thought you guys were fiscally conservative? The neocon theory of forced regime change by military means is a disasterous foreign policy.
And yet you are voting for the candidate who embraces that theory.
Hillary is not going to return to the failed bush doctrine and commit 170,000 US troops to Iraq. Ain't happening.
Of course not. There is no more Iraq to commit troops too. The withdrawal made sure of that.
How much territory does ISIS hold? What's happened to their top leadership? How many scary beheading videos have we had forced down our throats of late? When was the last attack on foreign soil? Did I say they were eliminated? Even I know that's not possible. You on the other hand, believe that a full size occupying force of 170,000 US troops will bring peace and democracy to the region. All that gets us is more debt and dead American service members. And the cost of this neocon misadventure is north of two trillion, not the piddly billions you claim. Again, let me know when Canada wants to make a similar commitment to clean up America's mess. Saddam in power, rummy's pal, and no fly zones cost a billion a year. Thought you guys were fiscally conservative? The neocon theory of forced regime change by military means is a disasterous foreign policy.
And yet you are voting for the candidate who embraces that theory.
Hillary is not going to return to the failed bush doctrine and commit 170,000 US troops to Iraq. Ain't happening.
Of course not. There is no more Iraq to commit troops too. The withdrawal made sure of that.
How much territory does ISIS hold? What's happened to their top leadership? How many scary beheading videos have we had forced down our throats of late? When was the last attack on foreign soil? Did I say they were eliminated? Even I know that's not possible. You on the other hand, believe that a full size occupying force of 170,000 US troops will bring peace and democracy to the region. All that gets us is more debt and dead American service members. And the cost of this neocon misadventure is north of two trillion, not the piddly billions you claim. Again, let me know when Canada wants to make a similar commitment to clean up America's mess. Saddam in power, rummy's pal, and no fly zones cost a billion a year. Thought you guys were fiscally conservative? The neocon theory of forced regime change by military means is a disasterous foreign policy.
And yet you are voting for the candidate who embraces that theory.
Hillary is not going to return to the failed bush doctrine and commit 170,000 US troops to Iraq. Ain't happening.
Of course not. There is no more Iraq to commit troops too. The withdrawal made sure of that.
As well he should have. We had no business invading Iraq and to continue to promulgate a failed policy is stupidity. See Vietnam. Some 50 year occupation costing trillions and trillions and further inflaming the ME? Let me know again when Canada contributes more than a token force and a few hundred million dollars to the effort.
As well he should have. We had no business invading Iraq and to continue to promulgate a failed policy is stupidity. See Vietnam. Some 50 year occupation costing trillions and trillions and further inflaming the ME? Let me know again when Canada contributes more than a token force and a few hundred million dollars to the effort.
Well at least you admit it now. Finally. Was that so hard? Previously you argued that Obama had no choice but to withdraw. It was his decision and that decision had consequences.
The Iraqi people didn't want us there and Maliki was expressing that will. You can argue all century long that the US could have just said fuck it we're staying and imposed our imperial will upon the Iraqi people but that wouldn't have made it "right." You seem to be clueless regarding what it was like on the ground for what our troops were contending with despite what you think the "right" things being discussed in the boardrooms of the Cato Institute. Typical neocon. Sometimes the right decision has consequences. And the "surge" and "Sunni Awakening?" Paid for with billions in US dollars, most of it in cash. Where do you suppose ISIS got its seed funding?
And Obama called Maliki's bluff when the Iraqis wouldn't grant the troops immunity from prosecution. You're lobby the Canadian government to surge your troops, right?
And Obama called Maliki's bluff when the Iraqis wouldn't grant the troops immunity from prosecution. You're lobby the Canadian government to surge your troops, right?
You obviously didn't read the Post fact check or the Podesta email on this. It was the opposite. The Iraqi government was willing to support a renewed SOFA and was willing to negotiate on what the US required to stay but backed out based on Obama's public stance on withdrawal. They knew he was pulling out and so chose to save face. That was Obama's decision. You just admitted it was the correct decision. Just own it already.
The Iraqi people didn't want us there and Maliki was expressing that will. You can argue all century long that the US could have just said fuck it we're staying and imposed our imperial will upon the Iraqi people but that wouldn't have made it "right." You seem to be clueless regarding what it was like on the ground for what our troops were contending with despite what you think the "right" things being discussed in the boardrooms of the Cato Institute. Typical neocon. Sometimes the right decision has consequences. And the "surge" and "Sunni Awakening?" Paid for with billions in US dollars, most of it in cash. Where do you suppose ISIS got its seed funding?
The Iraqi people didn't want us there and Maliki was expressing that will. You can argue all century long that the US could have just said fuck it we're staying and imposed our imperial will upon the Iraqi people but that wouldn't have made it "right." You seem to be clueless regarding what it was like on the ground for what our troops were contending with despite what you think the "right" things being discussed in the boardrooms of the Cato Institute. Typical neocon. Sometimes the right decision has consequences. And the "surge" and "Sunni Awakening?" Paid for with billions in US dollars, most of it in cash. Where do you suppose ISIS got its seed funding?
No ISIS without withdrawal.
Are you high? The Sunni insurgents would have just evaporated? The US troops caught between Sadre and Iranian backed Shia militias and the Zarqawi die hard Sunnis on the other would all have just packed it in? The seeds of ISIS were already planted and growing. And we seem to be getting it done with a much lighter footprint. Get trump elected and maybe you and your son can watch the invasion of Iran. Must be better than baseball.
The Iraqi people didn't want us there and Maliki was expressing that will. You can argue all century long that the US could have just said fuck it we're staying and imposed our imperial will upon the Iraqi people but that wouldn't have made it "right." You seem to be clueless regarding what it was like on the ground for what our troops were contending with despite what you think the "right" things being discussed in the boardrooms of the Cato Institute. Typical neocon. Sometimes the right decision has consequences. And the "surge" and "Sunni Awakening?" Paid for with billions in US dollars, most of it in cash. Where do you suppose ISIS got its seed funding?
No ISIS without withdrawal.
Are you high? The Sunni insurgents would have just evaporated? The US troops caught between Sadre and Iranian backed Shia militias and the Zarqawi die hard Sunnis on the other would all have just packed it in? The seeds of ISIS were already planted and growing. And we seem to be getting it done with a much lighter footprint. Get trump elected and maybe you and your son can watch the invasion of Iran. Must be better than baseball.
The US presence would have beaten back both sides correct. The reason why is that the bulk of both Iraqi Sunnis and Iraqi Shia just want to live in peace while the violent extremists actually constitute a smaller number. The problem is that smaller number is lethal and grows when left unchecked. The "seed" was shrinking in the region but grew once the check was removed. Only a fool would think that "light footprint" you applaud is getting "it done". Iraq today is a million times worse since 2009. Syria has imploded into genocide. Iran is far more billigerent. The consequences of Obama's decision.
Iran far more belligerent? Giving up their nuclear program? How many troops to conquer and control Iraq, Syria and Libya? You're out of your mind if you think occupying Iraq with 170,000 infidels would have resulted in a peaceful, democratic Iraq. While true that most Sunnis and Shias want to live in peace, neither would do it under occupation. Your western arrogance is outrageous but not surprising being the neocon that you are.
Iran far more belligerent? Giving up their nuclear program? How many troops to conquer and control Iraq, Syria and Libya? You're out of your mind if you think occupying Iraq with 170,000 infidels would have resulted in a peaceful, democratic Iraq. While true that most Sunnis and Shias want to live in peace, neither would do it under occupation. Your western arrogance is outrageous but not surprising being the neocon that you are.
You like to move goal posts don't you? Who was asking for troops to conquer and control Syria and Libya? Those disasters are a result of this administrations actions. And the number 170,000 that you keep throwing out there? I don't believe that size of a presence was requested or required in 2009. A way smaller presence could have prevented the current mess.
Iranian-backed Houthi rebels continue to fire on US ships. Most people consider attacks on the Navy an act of war. I wonder where these rebels got those missles. Just a little Iranian seed money via the US government.
Iranian-backed Houthi rebels continue to fire on US ships. Most people consider attacks on the Navy an act of war. I wonder where these rebels got those missles. Just a little Iranian seed money via the US government.
But the Saudi bombing campaign that you championed was supposed to end the Houthi threat to the democratically elected government of Yemen. How's that working out for your ownership?
Iranian-backed Houthi rebels continue to fire on US ships. Most people consider attacks on the Navy an act of war. I wonder where these rebels got those missles. Just a little Iranian seed money via the US government.
But the Saudi bombing campaign that you championed was supposed to end the Houthi threat to the democratically elected government of Yemen. How's that working out for your ownership?
The Saudi bombing campaign that I championed? Do you just randomly make stuff up on here? It certainly appears that way.
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