Matt Cameron News

It's funny how signs are sort of front of you but you don't realize them until later.  When I watched them on Howard Stern's show while Eddie was talking about Waiting For Stevie, he described a harmonica as a chromatic harp, I got the sense that the other guys were like, "seriously?"  It was a weird energy that I didn't think much about but now that time has passed with Matt saying why he left, it makes me wonder if he just had enough of Eddie being Eddie, if so, I understand. 

I noticed in his recent interview, he mentioned recently talking to Jeff and Stone who he's obviously known longer so that makes sense but I can't help but think he was over Eddie being a poor man's Springsteen especially working on his own stuff and the new Soundgarden album, listening to CC's vocals and thinking how Chris was as a front man vs how Ed is.  Like most on here, I'm a huge fan, I've been lucky enough to go to a ton of their shows but fatherhood and growing up in general has changed Ed a bit, he's embraced his status which I don't fault him for one bit but I can see how fans and even bandmates feelings are affected.

It's amazing how they play 2.5-3hr shows changing the setlist each night then cutting it down a bit and now we know why but one could argue that if Ed simply did less talking that would reduce the length of the show.  This past year I've been lucky enough to see Jack White, QOTSA and NIN, all 3 had very little talking/banter or storytelling and just smashed through their amazing sets.  Personally, I think PJ is better than all those bands but the talking about baseball buddies and bringing celebs onstage is sort of lame & unneeded and maybe Matt felt the same way.  It should be about the music not the spectacle that comes with it.

Whatever the case, PJ is still going on which is always a good thing and Matt is continuing on as well with his projects which are awesome so overall though sad, the party continues.

darwinstheory said:

josevolution said:

Zeppelin deserves a ton of credit for choosing to leave millions upon millions of $$$ on the table by choosing end it with his passing! 

I have a different take here. I mean, I do give them credit for forfeitting the money. Clearly they did not apply effort to trying to make it work without him. And they have that right. However, think of what they may have been able to continue to contribute to the music world had they worked to find a replacement. Think of the extra generations that would have been able to experience a Led Zeppelin show (sans Bonham) over the years. Yes, it would have been sans Bonham...but I would 100% sign up to attend such a show in the 90's or 2000's. I was able to attend The Who in Ai believe 2002. Obviously no Keith Moon, and it was still fucking bad ass! I also have wished for years that Gilmore and Waters would put aside their differences and play a Pink Floyd show. And they are the only 2 left. That's just my $.02. 

Page and Plant sort of did this. Their first album was great, the second album not so great. Would have killed to see that first tour though. They brought along The Tea Party as their opener. They also had the Hip open some dates. Unbelievable. 

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

DL136722 said:

It's funny how signs are sort of front of you but you don't realize them until later.  When I watched them on Howard Stern's show while Eddie was talking about Waiting For Stevie, he described a harmonica as a chromatic harp, I got the sense that the other guys were like, "seriously?"  It was a weird energy that I didn't think much about but now that time has passed with Matt saying why he left, it makes me wonder if he just had enough of Eddie being Eddie, if so, I understand. 

I noticed in his recent interview, he mentioned recently talking to Jeff and Stone who he's obviously known longer so that makes sense but I can't help but think he was over Eddie being a poor man's Springsteen especially working on his own stuff and the new Soundgarden album, listening to CC's vocals and thinking how Chris was as a front man vs how Ed is.  Like most on here, I'm a huge fan, I've been lucky enough to go to a ton of their shows but fatherhood and growing up in general has changed Ed a bit, he's embraced his status which I don't fault him for one bit but I can see how fans and even bandmates feelings are affected.

It's amazing how they play 2.5-3hr shows changing the setlist each night then cutting it down a bit and now we know why but one could argue that if Ed simply did less talking that would reduce the length of the show.  This past year I've been lucky enough to see Jack White, QOTSA and NIN, all 3 had very little talking/banter or storytelling and just smashed through their amazing sets.  Personally, I think PJ is better than all those bands but the talking about baseball buddies and bringing celebs onstage is sort of lame & unneeded and maybe Matt felt the same way.  It should be about the music not the spectacle that comes with it.

Whatever the case, PJ is still going on which is always a good thing and Matt is continuing on as well with his projects which are awesome so overall though sad, the party continues.

I think you are reaching a lot 

Possibly but we'll actually never know

wnh1977 said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

DL136722 said:

It's funny how signs are sort of front of you but you don't realize them until later.  When I watched them on Howard Stern's show while Eddie was talking about Waiting For Stevie, he described a harmonica as a chromatic harp, I got the sense that the other guys were like, "seriously?"  It was a weird energy that I didn't think much about but now that time has passed with Matt saying why he left, it makes me wonder if he just had enough of Eddie being Eddie, if so, I understand. 

I noticed in his recent interview, he mentioned recently talking to Jeff and Stone who he's obviously known longer so that makes sense but I can't help but think he was over Eddie being a poor man's Springsteen especially working on his own stuff and the new Soundgarden album, listening to CC's vocals and thinking how Chris was as a front man vs how Ed is.  Like most on here, I'm a huge fan, I've been lucky enough to go to a ton of their shows but fatherhood and growing up in general has changed Ed a bit, he's embraced his status which I don't fault him for one bit but I can see how fans and even bandmates feelings are affected.

It's amazing how they play 2.5-3hr shows changing the setlist each night then cutting it down a bit and now we know why but one could argue that if Ed simply did less talking that would reduce the length of the show.  This past year I've been lucky enough to see Jack White, QOTSA and NIN, all 3 had very little talking/banter or storytelling and just smashed through their amazing sets.  Personally, I think PJ is better than all those bands but the talking about baseball buddies and bringing celebs onstage is sort of lame & unneeded and maybe Matt felt the same way.  It should be about the music not the spectacle that comes with it.

Whatever the case, PJ is still going on which is always a good thing and Matt is continuing on as well with his projects which are awesome so overall though sad, the party continues.

I think you are reaching a lot 

I agree he might be reaching, but he does hit on a lot of stuff that kind of annoys me... and who knows?  Maybe even the band?  I kind of got a kick out of the "poor man's Springsteen" comment.  As I've gotten older, a lot of his speech and behavior comes across as really pretentious and annoying.  It's like this performative introspection.  When I was getting into the band in the mid-90's when I was still a teen, I hung on his every word and lyric. Now, more times than not I find his talking insufferable.  

Look at the extended interview with Anthony Mason on CBS Sunday Morning from a year or so ago.  Can you just answer a question and talk normal?  Everything had to be this stuttering, stammering attempt to look deep. Like DL136722 pointed out, it's a fucking harmonica!  It's not a chromatic harp.  And recently he cussed on the Cubs Marquee Network while he was sitting with fellow multi-millionaires Cindy Crawford and Anthony Rizzo.  Ooh, so edgy!  I feel like I've seen several examples where the band seems annoyed or just impatiently waiting around for him to get done rambling.

I feel like the rest of the band is so humble and down to earth and I'm sure they know they've reached the top of the mountain largely because of their frontman.  But even Keith Richards has gotten annoyed by his frontman!

Thank you, I glad I'm not the only one!  You nailed it, just answer the question and talk normal and I agree the band does look a bit impatient waiting around for him to get done rambling.

Another prime example during that Howard interview - he was describing the riff for Waiting for Stevie and how Andrew Watt had a similar riff and instead of saying the riff was a combo of the two, he says it's an amalgamation of the two.  To your point, I too find his talking insufferable - again ty!

Hebejebe said:

Lots of people call a harmonica a harp or blues harp and Stevie does play a chromatic harmonica which has all 12 notes rather than the standard diatonic harmonica which just has the notes of the key it’s in

If you say so but I've never heard a harmonica called a chromatic harp but that wasn't the original point. I've seen/witnessed lots of artist use a harmonica, Charlie Musselwhite, Neil Young, and Ben Harper to name a few and I've never heard them refer to their harmonica as a chromatic harp but to each their own.  

DL136722 said:

wnh1977 said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

DL136722 said:

It's funny how signs are sort of front of you but you don't realize them until later.  When I watched them on Howard Stern's show while Eddie was talking about Waiting For Stevie, he described a harmonica as a chromatic harp, I got the sense that the other guys were like, "seriously?"  It was a weird energy that I didn't think much about but now that time has passed with Matt saying why he left, it makes me wonder if he just had enough of Eddie being Eddie, if so, I understand. 

I noticed in his recent interview, he mentioned recently talking to Jeff and Stone who he's obviously known longer so that makes sense but I can't help but think he was over Eddie being a poor man's Springsteen especially working on his own stuff and the new Soundgarden album, listening to CC's vocals and thinking how Chris was as a front man vs how Ed is.  Like most on here, I'm a huge fan, I've been lucky enough to go to a ton of their shows but fatherhood and growing up in general has changed Ed a bit, he's embraced his status which I don't fault him for one bit but I can see how fans and even bandmates feelings are affected.

It's amazing how they play 2.5-3hr shows changing the setlist each night then cutting it down a bit and now we know why but one could argue that if Ed simply did less talking that would reduce the length of the show.  This past year I've been lucky enough to see Jack White, QOTSA and NIN, all 3 had very little talking/banter or storytelling and just smashed through their amazing sets.  Personally, I think PJ is better than all those bands but the talking about baseball buddies and bringing celebs onstage is sort of lame & unneeded and maybe Matt felt the same way.  It should be about the music not the spectacle that comes with it.

Whatever the case, PJ is still going on which is always a good thing and Matt is continuing on as well with his projects which are awesome so overall though sad, the party continues.

I think you are reaching a lot 

I agree he might be reaching, but he does hit on a lot of stuff that kind of annoys me... and who knows?  Maybe even the band?  I kind of got a kick out of the "poor man's Springsteen" comment.  As I've gotten older, a lot of his speech and behavior comes across as really pretentious and annoying.  It's like this performative introspection.  When I was getting into the band in the mid-90's when I was still a teen, I hung on his every word and lyric. Now, more times than not I find his talking insufferable.  

Look at the extended interview with Anthony Mason on CBS Sunday Morning from a year or so ago.  Can you just answer a question and talk normal?  Everything had to be this stuttering, stammering attempt to look deep. Like DL136722 pointed out, it's a fucking harmonica!  It's not a chromatic harp.  And recently he cussed on the Cubs Marquee Network while he was sitting with fellow multi-millionaires Cindy Crawford and Anthony Rizzo.  Ooh, so edgy!  I feel like I've seen several examples where the band seems annoyed or just impatiently waiting around for him to get done rambling.

I feel like the rest of the band is so humble and down to earth and I'm sure they know they've reached the top of the mountain largely because of their frontman.  But even Keith Richards has gotten annoyed by his frontman!

Thank you, I glad I'm not the only one!  You nailed it, just answer the question and talk normal and I agree the band does look a bit impatient waiting around for him to get done rambling.

Another prime example during that Howard interview - he was describing the riff for Waiting for Stevie and how Andrew Watt had a similar riff and instead of saying the riff was a combo of the two, he says it's an amalgamation of the two.  To your point, I too find his talking insufferable - again ty!

Amalgamation is a good word

darwinstheory said:

josevolution said:

Zeppelin deserves a ton of credit for choosing to leave millions upon millions of $$$ on the table by choosing end it with his passing! 

I have a different take here. I mean, I do give them credit for forfeitting the money. Clearly they did not apply effort to trying to make it work without him. And they have that right. However, think of what they may have been able to continue to contribute to the music world had they worked to find a replacement. Think of the extra generations that would have been able to experience a Led Zeppelin show (sans Bonham) over the years. Yes, it would have been sans Bonham...but I would 100% sign up to attend such a show in the 90's or 2000's. I was able to attend The Who in Ai believe 2002. Obviously no Keith Moon, and it was still fucking bad ass! I also have wished for years that Gilmore and Waters would put aside their differences and play a Pink Floyd show. And they are the only 2 left. That's just my $.02. 

Nick Mason isn't dead

Wow this thread turned into the "hate on Eddie" thread...carry on

CPR7 said:

Wow this thread turned into the "hate on Eddie" thread...carry on

Its sad thinking he is an easy target.

I love Ed's storytelling and rambling. He gets a singing break and we get some fun stories that are often specific to the area of the show. I think it makes the shows more unique and personal. 

As far as his word choice, he is a songwriter . Words are part of his instrument. I think he even studies the dictionary.