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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,655
    edited July 19
    I really feel that the end of their last show of the last tour made it more than obvious that they knew at that point. When exactly they knew before then is completely irrelevant IMO. I also think that the announcement in response to Matt's parting message made it totally clear that the band is continuing without Matt. 

    After that, i just guess that they are currently considering who to replace Matt with. I don't think it's feasible that any new drummer would have the same kind of role that Matt did in terms of the business of the band, but I feel confident that whoever they choose would be someone they expect or hope to contribute creatively, IF they intend on making any more albums (but of course that person wouldn't hold the same stakes business-wise/legally).. If they don't intend on making any new albums (which would surprise me), then meh, they would just need a good drummer for their shows, and they have a LOT of great options there either way, old or new. I hope it's someone younger than any of the old drummers. Someone 10 years younger would be cool. Old enough to live with the band, younger enough to have the energy needed. 
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • hauntingfamiliar
    hauntingfamiliar Wilmington, NC Posts: 10,349
    PJ_Soul said:
    I really feel that the end of their last show of the last tour made it more than obvious that they knew at that point. When exactly they knew before then is completely irrelevant IMO. I also think that the announcement in response to Matt's parting message made it totally clear that the band is continuing without Matt. 

    After that, i just guess that they are currently considering who to replace Matt with. I don't think it's feasible that any new drummer would have the same kind of role that Matt did in terms of the business of the band, but I feel confident that whoever they choose would be someone they expect or hope to contribute creatively, IF they intend on making any more albums (but of course that person wouldn't hold the same stakes business-wise/legally).. If they don't intend on making any new albums (which would surprise me), then meh, they would just need a good drummer for their shows, and they have a LOT of great options there either way, old or new. I hope it's someone younger than any of the old drummers. Someone 10 years younger would be cool. Old enough to live with the band, younger enough to have the energy needed. 
    They were acting a bit cryptic at the end of the second Raleigh show this tour. It was very subtle. The first night they were saying things like " we haven't been here in a while and that needs to change" . I don't know exactly what EV said the second night but it was something like "we won't be back for a long time". Like they were either done with North Carolina because they had finally played their make up show, or maybe it was something else. Either way, it was a weird feeling after he said it. 
  • We All Believe
    We All Believe Eastchester, NY - Proud South Canadian. Posts: 801
    Poncier said:
    JimmyV said:
    1STmammal2wearPants said:
    JimmyV said:
    Love Matt, but I too am relieved it was not Mike. 
    I feel like they'd almost have to retire - his guitar is the soul of the band 
    Agree. They could bring someone in but it would never be the same. 
    I'd assume if any of the core four hang it up that would spell the end of the band.
    Lol I read this and immediately said "Cawh Fawh" as if I was Mike Francesa talking about the Yankees. #backaftadis
    May your days be long, til kingdom come.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,812
    JG242853 said:
    AndySlash said:
    JG242853 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    DM282158 said:
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    After listening to Dark Matter, a lot of the lyrics are about fractured relationships, breaking up and wonder if they are about Matt? Wreckage, Scared of Fear, Setting Sun, upper hand, got to give. Makes sense if Matt made the decision before they started recording DM.
    Hmmmmmm. I for one have always taken DM as a concept album. Interesting. 
    Matt retiring is more of a circle of life type of thing. We are all subject to it and I think they are pretty aware of that and when the second member says it’s time to retire then it’s time to be scared, unless we want a path to Foreigner Seattle..


    Reading "circle of life" I can only hear this

    Circle Of Life GIFs Tenor

    I truly resisted the urge to post that gif 
    Simba walks with us from beginning to end.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,812
    Loujoe said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    DM282158 said:
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    After listening to Dark Matter, a lot of the lyrics are about fractured relationships, breaking up and wonder if they are about Matt? Wreckage, Scared of Fear, Setting Sun, upper hand, got to give. Makes sense if Matt made the decision before they started recording DM.
    Hmmmmmm. I for one have always taken DM as a concept album. Interesting. 
    Matt retiring is more of a circle of life type of thing. We are all subject to it and I think they are pretty aware of that and when the second member says it’s time to retire then it’s time to be scared, unless we want a path to Foreigner Seattle..


    Unless you are the stones. Play til it's over. No real reason to end it.
    But what do i know. Just my outsider fan opinion.

    Whether you realize time waits for no one or like to hang with mothers little helper, what the stones continue to accomplish is astounding, and certainly not the norm for the human experience let alone active touring artists.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Loujoe said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    DM282158 said:
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    After listening to Dark Matter, a lot of the lyrics are about fractured relationships, breaking up and wonder if they are about Matt? Wreckage, Scared of Fear, Setting Sun, upper hand, got to give. Makes sense if Matt made the decision before they started recording DM.
    Hmmmmmm. I for one have always taken DM as a concept album. Interesting. 
    Matt retiring is more of a circle of life type of thing. We are all subject to it and I think they are pretty aware of that and when the second member says it’s time to retire then it’s time to be scared, unless we want a path to Foreigner Seattle..


    Unless you are the stones. Play til it's over. No real reason to end it.
    But what do i know. Just my outsider fan opinion.

    Whether you realize time waits for no one or like to hang with mothers little helper, what the stones continue to accomplish is astounding, and certainly not the norm for the human experience let alone active touring artists.
    "But the Stones" is the music version of "But Nolan Ryan." Outliers are just that, baby.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,541
    JimmyV said:
    I'd honestly be surprised to learn Pearl Jam was actively looking for a new drummer right now. All indications were they planned to take a break after the tour. My bet is they are doing just that. 

    The drummer issue will be handled down the road when the foursome comes back together. They may not even know at this point how they plan to proceed with the search, nevermind who they will target. 
    Agreed! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,165
    from WMMR:

    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,655
    hauntingfamiliar said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I really feel that the end of their last show of the last tour made it more than obvious that they knew at that point. When exactly they knew before then is completely irrelevant IMO. I also think that the announcement in response to Matt's parting message made it totally clear that the band is continuing without Matt. 

    After that, i just guess that they are currently considering who to replace Matt with. I don't think it's feasible that any new drummer would have the same kind of role that Matt did in terms of the business of the band, but I feel confident that whoever they choose would be someone they expect or hope to contribute creatively, IF they intend on making any more albums (but of course that person wouldn't hold the same stakes business-wise/legally).. If they don't intend on making any new albums (which would surprise me), then meh, they would just need a good drummer for their shows, and they have a LOT of great options there either way, old or new. I hope it's someone younger than any of the old drummers. Someone 10 years younger would be cool. Old enough to live with the band, younger enough to have the energy needed. 
    They were acting a bit cryptic at the end of the second Raleigh show this tour. It was very subtle. The first night they were saying things like " we haven't been here in a while and that needs to change" . I don't know exactly what EV said the second night but it was something like "we won't be back for a long time". Like they were either done with North Carolina because they had finally played their make up show, or maybe it was something else. Either way, it was a weird feeling after he said it. 

    I feel like Eddie says stuff like that all the time, randomly. People have been reading into such comments for years, always afraid they are about to quit after every tour, haha. 
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • verceman
    verceman Posts: 700
    eeriepadave said:
    from WMMR:

    Would think a rock station that's been around for decades would actually have some actual inside info. But this article could have been written by any of us pedestrians on this forum. 
  • MS4677
    MS4677 Posts: 67
    In my opinion, there is zero reason for the band to call it quits and as many have said, they won't. They recently recorded easily their best record since Avocado and it was recorded quickly. The band is at the height of their abilities/talents and hell, I think Eddie sings better now than he has most of his career. They have shortened the tours and shows and record at their leisure. It's been the perfect formula. I think Cameron simply wanted to slow down a bit and he wants the band to have someone who can be all in now. I think it's  that simple. 
  • hauntingfamiliar
    hauntingfamiliar Wilmington, NC Posts: 10,349
    PJ_Soul said:
    hauntingfamiliar said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I really feel that the end of their last show of the last tour made it more than obvious that they knew at that point. When exactly they knew before then is completely irrelevant IMO. I also think that the announcement in response to Matt's parting message made it totally clear that the band is continuing without Matt. 

    After that, i just guess that they are currently considering who to replace Matt with. I don't think it's feasible that any new drummer would have the same kind of role that Matt did in terms of the business of the band, but I feel confident that whoever they choose would be someone they expect or hope to contribute creatively, IF they intend on making any more albums (but of course that person wouldn't hold the same stakes business-wise/legally).. If they don't intend on making any new albums (which would surprise me), then meh, they would just need a good drummer for their shows, and they have a LOT of great options there either way, old or new. I hope it's someone younger than any of the old drummers. Someone 10 years younger would be cool. Old enough to live with the band, younger enough to have the energy needed. 
    They were acting a bit cryptic at the end of the second Raleigh show this tour. It was very subtle. The first night they were saying things like " we haven't been here in a while and that needs to change" . I don't know exactly what EV said the second night but it was something like "we won't be back for a long time". Like they were either done with North Carolina because they had finally played their make up show, or maybe it was something else. Either way, it was a weird feeling after he said it. 

    I feel like Eddie says stuff like that all the time, randomly. People have been reading into such comments for years, always afraid they are about to quit after every tour, haha. 
    You're probably right. I hope so!! 🙏 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    PJ_Soul said:
    hauntingfamiliar said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I really feel that the end of their last show of the last tour made it more than obvious that they knew at that point. When exactly they knew before then is completely irrelevant IMO. I also think that the announcement in response to Matt's parting message made it totally clear that the band is continuing without Matt. 

    After that, i just guess that they are currently considering who to replace Matt with. I don't think it's feasible that any new drummer would have the same kind of role that Matt did in terms of the business of the band, but I feel confident that whoever they choose would be someone they expect or hope to contribute creatively, IF they intend on making any more albums (but of course that person wouldn't hold the same stakes business-wise/legally).. If they don't intend on making any new albums (which would surprise me), then meh, they would just need a good drummer for their shows, and they have a LOT of great options there either way, old or new. I hope it's someone younger than any of the old drummers. Someone 10 years younger would be cool. Old enough to live with the band, younger enough to have the energy needed. 
    They were acting a bit cryptic at the end of the second Raleigh show this tour. It was very subtle. The first night they were saying things like " we haven't been here in a while and that needs to change" . I don't know exactly what EV said the second night but it was something like "we won't be back for a long time". Like they were either done with North Carolina because they had finally played their make up show, or maybe it was something else. Either way, it was a weird feeling after he said it. 

    I feel like Eddie says stuff like that all the time, randomly. People have been reading into such comments for years, always afraid they are about to quit after every tour, haha. 
    It's usually in the other direction though (we'll see you soon!, etc.) Exuberance, not pessimism.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,812
    PJ_Soul said:
    hauntingfamiliar said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I really feel that the end of their last show of the last tour made it more than obvious that they knew at that point. When exactly they knew before then is completely irrelevant IMO. I also think that the announcement in response to Matt's parting message made it totally clear that the band is continuing without Matt. 

    After that, i just guess that they are currently considering who to replace Matt with. I don't think it's feasible that any new drummer would have the same kind of role that Matt did in terms of the business of the band, but I feel confident that whoever they choose would be someone they expect or hope to contribute creatively, IF they intend on making any more albums (but of course that person wouldn't hold the same stakes business-wise/legally).. If they don't intend on making any new albums (which would surprise me), then meh, they would just need a good drummer for their shows, and they have a LOT of great options there either way, old or new. I hope it's someone younger than any of the old drummers. Someone 10 years younger would be cool. Old enough to live with the band, younger enough to have the energy needed. 
    They were acting a bit cryptic at the end of the second Raleigh show this tour. It was very subtle. The first night they were saying things like " we haven't been here in a while and that needs to change" . I don't know exactly what EV said the second night but it was something like "we won't be back for a long time". Like they were either done with North Carolina because they had finally played their make up show, or maybe it was something else. Either way, it was a weird feeling after he said it. 

    I feel like Eddie says stuff like that all the time, randomly. People have been reading into such comments for years, always afraid they are about to quit after every tour, haha. 

    If they knew this was the end of something important, it’s disappointing, yes they owe us nothing, that perhaps playing a few more shows in those regions where tickets are especially tough to get, with a hint that long time fans…”will really want to catch one of these shows.”

    Instead, it seemed like a part one of two run of Dark Matter wrap up tour, based on how few 2025 shows were announced. 
  • bigbiggzy
    bigbiggzy Posts: 840
    edited July 21
    My humble .02 — It’s just puzzling that he wasn’t sent off in more of a grand fashion…

    A drummer for 27 years, in one of the most influential and lasting bands of our time… It’s just kinda weird to me that they didn’t send him off during this last tour…

    But I have to assume this is how *HE wanted to do it.

    Love you, MFC. Miss you already.

    Fingers crossed they give us another album and tour (or more) before hanging it up…
    Post edited by bigbiggzy on
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    bigbiggzy said:
    My humble .02 — It’s just puzzling that he wasn’t sent off in more of a grand fashion…

    A drummer for 27 years, in one of the most influential and lasting bands of our time… It’s just kinda weird to me that they didn’t send him off during this last tour…

    But I have to assume this is how we wanted to do it.

    Love you, MFC. Miss you already.

    Fingers crossed they give us another album and tour (or more) before hanging it up…
    I assume it’s how HE wanted it; I don’t know the guy, but Matt doesn’t strike me as someone who would want to be the center of attention like that. & as much as the rest of the band might want to give him a proper send off, I trust they appreciated being able to play out the tour without the added scrutiny / questions etc. 

    Not to mention the chaos that would have ensued had people known in advance… the ticket and merch scene is desperate enough as it is, I can only imagine how much worse it would have been if people knew it was the last go around w/ MC. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    Poncier said:
    JimmyV said:
    1STmammal2wearPants said:
    JimmyV said:
    Love Matt, but I too am relieved it was not Mike. 
    I feel like they'd almost have to retire - his guitar is the soul of the band 
    Agree. They could bring someone in but it would never be the same. 
    I'd assume if any of the core four hang it up that would spell the end of the band.
    That's kind of what I think....if one of them is ready to stop it will probably all stop as "Pearl Jam"
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  • rey
    rey Monmouth County, NJ Posts: 307
    Maybe it's possible that the band really doesn't know for sure yet what their own future is?  Even if they knew Matt was leaving for the entire last leg of the tour, relatively speaking it still hasn't been a lot of time for the rest of the band to make decisions about their future.  I have to believe that upon receiving the news of Matt's decision, the rest of the band wasn't immediately ready to decide (and agree) on what the future holds.  Obviously none of us know exactly what's going on, but it certainly wouldn't surprise me if the remaining members are still trying to figure out what's next.
  • bigbiggzy
    bigbiggzy Posts: 840
    edited July 21
    Merkin Baller said:
    bigbiggzy said:
    My humble .02 — It’s just puzzling that he wasn’t sent off in more of a grand fashion…

    A drummer for 27 years, in one of the most influential and lasting bands of our time… It’s just kinda weird to me that they didn’t send him off during this last tour…

    But I have to assume this is how we wanted to do it.

    Love you, MFC. Miss you already.

    Fingers crossed they give us another album and tour (or more) before hanging it up…
    I assume it’s how HE wanted it; I don’t know the guy, but Matt doesn’t strike me as someone who would want to be the center of attention like that. & as much as the rest of the band might want to give him a proper send off, I trust they appreciated being able to play out the tour without the added scrutiny / questions etc. 

    Not to mention the chaos that would have ensued had people known in advance… the ticket and merch scene is desperate enough as it is, I can only imagine how much worse it would have been if people knew it was the last go around w/ MC. 
    Yes - I meant to type how “he” wanted to go out…(Thank you - Good catch!)

    And regarding the chaos you mentioned… You’re right. I thought about that as well…

    Part of me still thinks “saying goodbye” would’ve warranted some of the chaos. But it def would’ve been a cluster. No question.

    I’m sure this was tough for all of them… Especially for Matt. 

    There was no easy way to do any of this, I’m sure…
    I suppose when you really think about it…they did the best they could. 

    What a ride, man. I love this band so much - which will always include MFC.
    Post edited by bigbiggzy on
  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,687
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Loujoe said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    DM282158 said:
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    After listening to Dark Matter, a lot of the lyrics are about fractured relationships, breaking up and wonder if they are about Matt? Wreckage, Scared of Fear, Setting Sun, upper hand, got to give. Makes sense if Matt made the decision before they started recording DM.
    Hmmmmmm. I for one have always taken DM as a concept album. Interesting. 
    Matt retiring is more of a circle of life type of thing. We are all subject to it and I think they are pretty aware of that and when the second member says it’s time to retire then it’s time to be scared, unless we want a path to Foreigner Seattle..


    Unless you are the stones. Play til it's over. No real reason to end it.
    But what do i know. Just my outsider fan opinion.

    Whether you realize time waits for no one or like to hang with mothers little helper, what the stones continue to accomplish is astounding, and certainly not the norm for the human experience let alone active touring artists.
    Well said. They must have made a deal with the devil ;)

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