Brushing this off is pretty ignorant in my opinion. It is an extremely awful (and stupid) situation. It was very evident. Certainly not the worst thing that ever happened, but damn, what a disgrace for the party.
It is funny though, people tend to hold democrats accountable for these stupid things (and they did this election)...but that 30% of GOP voters never hold their party accountable....plenty ok with the hypocrisy and moving goalposts. So frustrating.
do you think they had time to hold primaries? doesn't the primary "season" last like 8 months?
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“There hasn't been a fair primary for the Democrats since 2008. Are they not also a threat to democracy?”
Bernie Sanders: “Yeah, I'm not going to argue with that”
Ok you make the argument for him. Why do you think the two primaries in which Bernie ran and lost were unfair, exactly?
I don't care for Senator Sanders, but I'll listen to him.
In 2012, I voted again for President Obama. In 2016, I voted for Senator Clinton in both the primary and general and in 2020 I voted for Vice President Biden in the both the primary and general.
Senator Sanders would make a better argument for himself than I ever could, regarding the primaries in which he ran.
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2003: 4/3 OKC
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“There hasn't been a fair primary for the Democrats since 2008. Are they not also a threat to democracy?”
Bernie Sanders: “Yeah, I'm not going to argue with that”
Ok you make the argument for him. Why do you think the two primaries in which Bernie ran and lost were unfair, exactly?
I don't care for Senator Sanders, but I'll listen to him.
In 2012, I voted again for President Obama. In 2016, I voted for Senator Clinton in both the primary and general and in 2020 I voted for Vice President Biden in the both the primary and general.
Senator Sanders would make a better argument for himself than I ever could, regarding the primaries in which he ran.
I don’t understand why you post things that you apparently don’t believe or think are true.
Brushing this off is pretty ignorant in my opinion. It is an extremely awful (and stupid) situation. It was very evident. Certainly not the worst thing that ever happened, but damn, what a disgrace for the party.
It is funny though, people tend to hold democrats accountable for these stupid things (and they did this election)...but that 30% of GOP voters never hold their party accountable....plenty ok with the hypocrisy and moving goalposts. So frustrating.
do you think they had time to hold primaries? doesn't the primary "season" last like 8 months?
I think they hid it much longer than the debate. It was obvious to me he was a shell. They knew. So yes, plenty of time for a primary as they could have done it in normal fashion without their deceit.
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“A shell.” Good lord. Brandon’s cognitive ability as it relates to “politics”, “governing”, “legislating” or any other gut instinct related to his role as POTUS is and was, by this point, reflexive and going to be in the best interests of the nation. His moral compass would ensure it.
Why are we discussing Brandon, anyway? He’s out of office and we have the greatest man ever to be elected in office. Surely, things are going great, eh?
And even if Brandon was mentally deficient, like Ronny Ray Guns was in his second term, I would have trusted those around him, and Kamala in the wings in waiting, way more than the stupid, bullshit con artists we have now.
”A shell” over the disgrace of humanity and ‘Murica’s former promise.
Brushing this off is pretty ignorant in my opinion. It is an extremely awful (and stupid) situation. It was very evident. Certainly not the worst thing that ever happened, but damn, what a disgrace for the party.
It is funny though, people tend to hold democrats accountable for these stupid things (and they did this election)...but that 30% of GOP voters never hold their party accountable....plenty ok with the hypocrisy and moving goalposts. So frustrating.
do you think they had time to hold primaries? doesn't the primary "season" last like 8 months?
I think they hid it much longer than the debate. It was obvious to me he was a shell. They knew. So yes, plenty of time for a primary as they could have done it in normal fashion without their deceit.
You’re saying the DNC leadership knew and hid it? Why would they know? They didn’t have daily interaction and likely very little interaction with the president.
Biden was polling higher than trump up to that shitty debate. There was no cover up. Biden should have bowed out months before.
To make it anything more than that is ridiculous. We know nothing about trump's medical condition(s) physically or mentally. Why aren't we discussing trump's incessant lying? Biden is gone. Why not discuss the guy in the office right now that thinks Mattel is a country?
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So many of the people and organizations that should be grappling hard in this moment instead seem consumed by the feeling that they have been getting it absolutely right in a world that fails to appreciate their good sense. We were promised a reckoning; instead, we got complexes of feeling misunderstood. Here we are — amazing political party or news organization or activist group — and people don’t get it. Everyone is crazy. But we’re sane!
Former Bidenworld insiders refuse to crack the doors of their minds three percent ajar to the possibility that his decline was a bigger deal than they treated it as being, with consequences the entire country is living through. And the former president himself is now being sent out to do interviews denying it all, everything is fine, I would have won, nothing to see here. It is remarkable, in a sense, this ability to be impervious to and oblivious to what so many others see, to be so uninterested in the possibility of learning from the past.
People who served on the Harris campaign engage in their own doubling down, insisting that the problems with the campaign were all external to it — the short time horizon, the pressure to stay close to Biden on policy. That the campaign itself was more lackluster and less inspiring and transformational than it could have been — that there are, therefore, lessons that could be drawn for next time — nope. This is no time for genuine reflection.
The same incuriosity can be found in the progressive wing of the party, among activist and organizing groups. Many meetings have been held, and then at those meetings the same behaviors that made progressive ideas less popular than they would naturally be were repeated. The out-of-touch, jargony, apologetic throat-clearing, the social justice terminology that feels inaccessible to those outside activism or academia, the breathtaking insistence on talking about politics in ways most normal people would not understand, the focus on issues affecting very small numbers of people instead of issues affecting everyone — these habits and reflexes reared their head in progressive “reckonings,” signaling that almost nothing meaningful would be rethought. Progressives have a giant normie problem in America; they don’t seem interested in fixing it, unless repeating the word “intersectional” until everyone comes around counts. Land acknowledgements are fine, but progressives might consider adding “game acknowledgements” to their repertoire. That’s when, like 98 percent of people in this country, you start by joking about last night’s game.
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Senator Cory Booker voted yes on Charles Kushner to be the US ambassador to France.
Charles Kushner, who pleaded guilty to 18 counts in 2005 and served two years in prison, but was pardoned by Trump in 2020.
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2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
1996; 9/28 New York
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1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
In 2012, I voted again for President Obama. In 2016, I voted for Senator Clinton in both the primary and general and in 2020 I voted for Vice President Biden in the both the primary and general.
Senator Sanders would make a better argument for himself than I ever could, regarding the primaries in which he ran.
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Why are we discussing Brandon, anyway? He’s out of office and we have the greatest man ever to be elected in office. Surely, things are going great, eh?
And even if Brandon was mentally deficient, like Ronny Ray Guns was in his second term, I would have trusted those around him, and Kamala in the wings in waiting, way more than the stupid, bullshit con artists we have now.
”A shell” over the disgrace of humanity and ‘Murica’s former promise.
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To make it anything more than that is ridiculous. We know nothing about trump's medical condition(s) physically or mentally. Why aren't we discussing trump's incessant lying? Biden is gone. Why not discuss the guy in the office right now that thinks Mattel is a country?
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
So many of the people and organizations that should be grappling hard in this moment instead seem consumed by the feeling that they have been getting it absolutely right in a world that fails to appreciate their good sense. We were promised a reckoning; instead, we got complexes of feeling misunderstood. Here we are — amazing political party or news organization or activist group — and people don’t get it. Everyone is crazy. But we’re sane!
This pandemic of incuriosity has spared few.
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Former Bidenworld insiders refuse to crack the doors of their minds three percent ajar to the possibility that his decline was a bigger deal than they treated it as being, with consequences the entire country is living through. And the former president himself is now being sent out to do interviews denying it all, everything is fine, I would have won, nothing to see here. It is remarkable, in a sense, this ability to be impervious to and oblivious to what so many others see, to be so uninterested in the possibility of learning from the past.
People who served on the Harris campaign engage in their own doubling down, insisting that the problems with the campaign were all external to it — the short time horizon, the pressure to stay close to Biden on policy. That the campaign itself was more lackluster and less inspiring and transformational than it could have been — that there are, therefore, lessons that could be drawn for next time — nope. This is no time for genuine reflection.
The same incuriosity can be found in the progressive wing of the party, among activist and organizing groups. Many meetings have been held, and then at those meetings the same behaviors that made progressive ideas less popular than they would naturally be were repeated. The out-of-touch, jargony, apologetic throat-clearing, the social justice terminology that feels inaccessible to those outside activism or academia, the breathtaking insistence on talking about politics in ways most normal people would not understand, the focus on issues affecting very small numbers of people instead of issues affecting everyone — these habits and reflexes reared their head in progressive “reckonings,” signaling that almost nothing meaningful would be rethought. Progressives have a giant normie problem in America; they don’t seem interested in fixing it, unless repeating the word “intersectional” until everyone comes around counts. Land acknowledgements are fine, but progressives might consider adding “game acknowledgements” to their repertoire. That’s when, like 98 percent of people in this country, you start by joking about last night’s game.
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