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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    I wish Randy "Macho Man" Savage was still around...he'd be a great POTUS
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,005
    Gern Blansten said:
    I wish Randy "Macho Man" Savage was still around...he'd be a great POTUS
    i would have nominated him or pope. ooooo yeah!
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,792
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,537
    Right wingers trying to politicize violence and sex offending just turns on them quickly. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,799
    Tim Simmons said:
    The way you paint it makes it seem like Democrats will never win again unless they just become Republican. 

    Regarding Senate ( and by extension SCOTUS ) not sure where the optimism would be looking at 2026/28 maps. Then 2030 census, ten electoral votes/house seats moving from blue states to the south. That’s the context. Not sure about never, but these political maps make 2020 seem like a lifetime ago.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,537
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    The way you paint it makes it seem like Democrats will never win again unless they just become Republican. 

    Regarding Senate ( and by extension SCOTUS ) not sure where the optimism would be looking at 2026/28 maps. Then 2030 census, ten electoral votes/house seats moving from blue states to the south. That’s the context. Not sure about never, but these political maps make 2020 seem like a lifetime ago.
    It won’t be a 10 seat flip like you’re suggesting. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,655
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    The way you paint it makes it seem like Democrats will never win again unless they just become Republican. 

    Regarding Senate ( and by extension SCOTUS ) not sure where the optimism would be looking at 2026/28 maps. Then 2030 census, ten electoral votes/house seats moving from blue states to the south. That’s the context. Not sure about never, but these political maps make 2020 seem like a lifetime ago.

    2020 is not only a metaphorical lifetime ago, it's an entire era ago:  the era of the U.S. as a democracy, and the era of the U.S. as an oligarchical dictatorship under a tyrannical kakistocracy.  An alphabet soup of horrors.
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,496
    Imagine looking at this polling and saying, but we should still move way from this 


  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,983
    Tim Simmons said:
    Imagine looking at this polling and saying, but we should still move way from this 


    How do those categories poll with indies and the cult? Regardless, I’d rather have a moral compass and be inclusive than go back a 100+ years or so.
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,496
    I posted the Republican version in that thread. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,983
    Tim Simmons said:
    I posted the Republican version in that thread. 
    Thanks.
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,496
    Here’s the write up

    https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/52124-how-big-are-the-democratic-and-republican-party-tents
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,799
    Tim Simmons said:
    Imagine looking at this polling and saying, but we should still move way from this 



    Do you really think any of that will make a dent in the senate or Supreme Court in the next ten years ? Give all your money to the Dems so they can run ads on that stuff and see how much power you get in dc and how many democrats remain.


    Too bad democrats are becoming an endangered species. I wonder what policies the socialist party of America wants, because soon enough, they’ll have more power and influence than democrats.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,799
    Go Beavers said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    The way you paint it makes it seem like Democrats will never win again unless they just become Republican. 

    Regarding Senate ( and by extension SCOTUS ) not sure where the optimism would be looking at 2026/28 maps. Then 2030 census, ten electoral votes/house seats moving from blue states to the south. That’s the context. Not sure about never, but these political maps make 2020 seem like a lifetime ago.
    It won’t be a 10 seat flip like you’re suggesting. 



    These are electoral votes as well, leaving mostly CA & NY for the south. Go ahead and fantasize those aren’t mostly votes going to the Rs. That fantasy  is your constitutional right.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,496
    You keep talking like the 2024 election was a massive blow out. It wasn’t. It was close. A few great ideals that can swing some undecideds, or activation of those who stayed home with a candidate that is well liked, and it’s a different ballgame. Sorry I’m not as pessimistic as you are. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,799
    edited May 8
    Tim Simmons said:
    You keep talking like the 2024 election was a massive blow out. It wasn’t. It was close. A few great ideals that can swing some undecideds, or activation of those who stayed home with a candidate that is well liked, and it’s a different ballgame. Sorry I’m not as pessimistic as you are. 

    After arguing forcefully that he is a convict, a rapist, an insurrectionist…he won by two million votes and every swing state. 

    What is most problematic is he swung a couple solid blue states in his direction like NY by ten points from 2020. That is not insignificant.

    I am guessing that you did not realize your graph earlier is very telling. It can easily be interpreted as moderates getting alienated by the party and no longer identifying as democrats. So what is left? A smaller more liberal party that fantasizes the country will vote for stuff like that. Yes it’s not all bad… they should win the house next year, but they’ll need to identify with larger numbers of moderates more often to win the more important senate back in the forceable future, not more voters on the far left 

     

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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,539
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    You keep talking like the 2024 election was a massive blow out. It wasn’t. It was close. A few great ideals that can swing some undecideds, or activation of those who stayed home with a candidate that is well liked, and it’s a different ballgame. Sorry I’m not as pessimistic as you are. 

    After arguing forcefully that he is a convict, a rapist, an insurrectionist…he won by two million votes and every swing state. 

    What is most problematic is he swung a couple solid blue states in his direction like NY by ten points from 2020. That is not insignificant.

    I am guessing that you did not realize your graph earlier is very telling. It can easily be interpreted as moderates getting alienated by the party and no longer identifying as democrats. So what is left? A smaller more liberal party that fantasizes the country will vote for stuff like that. Yes it’s not all bad… they should win the house next year, but they’ll need to identify with larger numbers of moderates more often to win the more important senate back in the forceable future, not more voters on the far left 

     

    It doesn’t change the fact that he is a sexual predator and a conman yeah too bad half this nation loves themselves criminals to lead the nation 
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,496
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    You keep talking like the 2024 election was a massive blow out. It wasn’t. It was close. A few great ideals that can swing some undecideds, or activation of those who stayed home with a candidate that is well liked, and it’s a different ballgame. Sorry I’m not as pessimistic as you are. 

    After arguing forcefully that he is a convict, a rapist, an insurrectionist…he won by two million votes and every swing state. 

    What is most problematic is he swung a couple solid blue states in his direction like NY by ten points from 2020. That is not insignificant.

    I am guessing that you did not realize your graph earlier is very telling. It can easily be interpreted as moderates getting alienated by the party and no longer identifying as democrats. So what is left? A smaller more liberal party that fantasizes the country will vote for stuff like that. Yes it’s not all bad… they should win the house next year, but they’ll need to identify with larger numbers of moderates more often to win the more important senate back in the forceable future, not more voters on the far left 

     

    No they just need to sell some policies that are popular with Americans. Trump won because Americans felt they weren’t winning with Biden and Harris and he was the only other option. 

    But we’ve also had this argument 100 times.


  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,496
    As of now the economy in the tank is going to move people back to the Dems. That’s been their plan this whole time. Just let Trump sink himself. 
  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,651

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