Democrats

Bentleyspop

tbergs said:

hunterh75 said:

mickeyrat said:

Gern Blansten said:

tbergs said:

Gern Blansten said:

DE4173 said:

"Pete Buttigieg just laid out the best case yet for the future of the Democratic party":

https://x.com/DemocraticWins/status/1928112976017404256?t=yMuzIq7vDKtSR9zFVx2kuw&s=19

Pete is great...my fear is that we just aren't ready for him yet

I feel like we might be by 2028. The pendulum has to swing back from the grievance and anger platform after the next 3.5 horrible years. Trump is going to bury us in debt with his policies and generally people should seek hope from a Dem candidate again. If Trump is hated enough, a la GWB after term 2, someone like Pete who has charisma, is a great speaker and overall a good person could easily get the popular vote despite automatically losing votes for no other reason than homophobia.

I kind of feel like the lost votes wouldn't vote dem anyway but I do wonder if the USA is ready to upend the first lady tradition...having a female POTUS is a bit different but this would be a radical change.

I would vote for him all day long though. I would love a Newsom/Pete ticket or Shapiro/Pete

we've already had a first second gentleman ,  soooooo.....

Pete could hardly qualify as a 2nd gentleman, lol. He's already fake breast fed a baby for months while neglecting his duties. Jesus fucking Christ

It'd be nice if you brought some substance to any of your posts or could ever leave the cult and not act like everything Trump does is great. It's just weird to worship anyone like that. 

Maga sycophants can't bring substance. Just insults and homophobia. 

gimmesometruth27

benjs said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

hunterh75 said:

mickeyrat said:

Gern Blansten said:

tbergs said:

Gern Blansten said:

DE4173 said:

"Pete Buttigieg just laid out the best case yet for the future of the Democratic party":

https://x.com/DemocraticWins/status/1928112976017404256?t=yMuzIq7vDKtSR9zFVx2kuw&s=19

Pete is great...my fear is that we just aren't ready for him yet

I feel like we might be by 2028. The pendulum has to swing back from the grievance and anger platform after the next 3.5 horrible years. Trump is going to bury us in debt with his policies and generally people should seek hope from a Dem candidate again. If Trump is hated enough, a la GWB after term 2, someone like Pete who has charisma, is a great speaker and overall a good person could easily get the popular vote despite automatically losing votes for no other reason than homophobia.

I kind of feel like the lost votes wouldn't vote dem anyway but I do wonder if the USA is ready to upend the first lady tradition...having a female POTUS is a bit different but this would be a radical change.

I would vote for him all day long though. I would love a Newsom/Pete ticket or Shapiro/Pete

we've already had a first second gentleman ,  soooooo.....

Pete could hardly qualify as a 2nd gentleman, lol. He's already fake breast fed a baby for months while neglecting his duties. Jesus fucking Christ

exactly which duties did he neglect?

the planes falling from the sky was not on his watch.

It’s sort of like Trump’s economy. The bad parts of plane management in the States are from the Buttigieg regime, and the good parts are thanks to  the current secretary.

are there good parts to plane management at this time though? lol

hunterh75

Everyone here can bash DJT all day which is your US right but WTF can you say anything positive about JB from 2020-2024??
Bashing is easy cause you need Zero proof. Proving something with facts is harder. No talk of the MSM cover up of his dementia even from lib media.....prove me wrong, lol....Mic drop...,..

Halifax2TheMax

hunterh75 said:

Everyone here can bash DJT all day which is your US right but WTF can you say anything positive about JB from 2020-2024??
Bashing is easy cause you need Zero proof. Proving something with facts is harder. No talk of the MSM cover up of his dementia even from lib media.....prove me wrong, lol....Mic drop...,..

Covid response: 90,000 vaccination sites nationwide, pledging 100M vaccinations in 100 days, reaching 100M in half the time. Reached 200M vaccinations in 100 days. Your guy, “gone be Easter.”

230M Americans vaccinated compared to 3.5M upon taking office.

Kept millions of renters in their homes as well as prevented millions from losing their homes due to foreclosures during the pandemic. Your guy, “fuck those people.”

Delivered $28B in aid to keep 100,000 restaurants open during the pandemic.

Job creation: created 16.6 million jobs over 4 years. Positive job growth every month for 48 straight months.

Grew GDP 12.6% over tenure.

Wealth, adjusted for inflation, rose 37% for median US household.

21 million new small business applications filed.

After tax incomes, adjusted for inflation, rose on average almost $4K.

Signed bi-partisan Infrastructure law. Get woke and read up on what it provides.

Negotiated reduced drug prices for Medicare, anticipating saving taxpayers $6B in prescription costs.

$35 insulin cost and capped annual Medicare out of pocket costs at $2,000.

Saved the pensions of 2M union retirees.

Expanded the ACA to save millions of people an average of $800 on healthcare premiums.

Didn’t raise taxes on those earning less than $400K.

Capped overdraft fees at $5.00.

Ended the war in Afghanistan.

Expanded NATO.

Returned 75 Americans held in overseas prisons.

Secured $450B in private manufacturing investments.

I could go on and on and on but you wouldn’t believe it anyway.

benjs

hunterh75 said:

Everyone here can bash DJT all day which is your US right but WTF can you say anything positive about JB from 2020-2024??
Bashing is easy cause you need Zero proof. Proving something with facts is harder. No talk of the MSM cover up of his dementia even from lib media.....prove me wrong, lol....Mic drop...,..

Why are you surprised that people are more concerned with the state of the current president than that of the prior one when he was in office? Only one of these people have enormous ramifications on your country and the world at this point in time. 

Halifax2TheMax

benjs said:

hunterh75 said:

Everyone here can bash DJT all day which is your US right but WTF can you say anything positive about JB from 2020-2024??
Bashing is easy cause you need Zero proof. Proving something with facts is harder. No talk of the MSM cover up of his dementia even from lib media.....prove me wrong, lol....Mic drop...,..

Why are you surprised that people are more concerned with the state of the current president than that of the prior one when he was in office? Only one of these people have enormous ramifications on your country and the world at this point in time. 

It’s the being of grievance and victimhood. Because “the other.”

Halifax2TheMax

hunterh75 said:

Everyone here can bash DJT all day which is your US right but WTF can you say anything positive about JB from 2020-2024??
Bashing is easy cause you need Zero proof. Proving something with facts is harder. No talk of the MSM cover up of his dementia even from lib media.....prove me wrong, lol....Mic drop...,..

At the very, very least, Brandon was normal. KA-BOOM!

gimmesometruth27

hunterh75 said:

Everyone here can bash DJT all day which is your US right but WTF can you say anything positive about JB from 2020-2024??
Bashing is easy cause you need Zero proof. Proving something with facts is harder. No talk of the MSM cover up of his dementia even from lib media.....prove me wrong, lol....Mic drop...,..

now do obama.

gimmesometruth27

hunterh75 said:

Everyone here can bash DJT all day which is your US right but WTF can you say anything positive about JB from 2020-2024??
Bashing is easy cause you need Zero proof. Proving something with facts is harder. No talk of the MSM cover up of his dementia even from lib media.....prove me wrong, lol....Mic drop...,..

why are you so infatuated with a criminal that is actually a very stupid man? does he make you feel smart? does he validate your anger and your fear of other people?

Tim Simmons

hunterh75 said:

Everyone here can bash DJT all day which is your US right but WTF can you say anything positive about JB from 2020-2024??
Bashing is easy cause you need Zero proof. Proving something with facts is harder. No talk of the MSM cover up of his dementia even from lib media.....prove me wrong, lol....Mic drop...,..

You mean, the story that was broken by *checks notes* "Liberal Media" CNN Talking Head Jake Tapper. Let me google news him real quick and lets see what sort of sourcing...oh

Tim Simmons

Also, anyone who uses the term "liberal media" to describe the largest media outlets who currently white wash most things this admin and its peripheral players are doing is wholly unserious.

Tim Simmons

Biden has no doubt had failings and shortcomings and they've certainly been addressed in this thread over the past 2 weeks. But his admin did have successes too. The largest being the Bipartisan infrastructure deal. Now assuming that stuff still gets funded, its a major modernization act that help bring back the economy coming out of covid and boosted employment and reduced unemployment to 30 year lows. 

The American Rescue Plan also boosted the nations access to affordable healthcare. Real stuff that helps real people. 

Halifax2TheMax

Tim Simmons said:

Biden has no doubt had failings and shortcomings and they've certainly been addressed in this thread over the past 2 weeks. But his admin did have successes too. The largest being the Bipartisan infrastructure deal. Now assuming that stuff still gets funded, its a major modernization act that help bring back the economy coming out of covid and boosted employment and reduced unemployment to 30 year lows. 

The American Rescue Plan also boosted the nations access to affordable healthcare. Real stuff that helps real people. 

Didn’t help nobody nowhere. Just added tremendous amounts to the debt. And you know how I know? Not one repub voted for either of those two bills. Not one.

Halifax2TheMax

Tim Simmons said:

Biden has no doubt had failings and shortcomings and they've certainly been addressed in this thread over the past 2 weeks. But his admin did have successes too. The largest being the Bipartisan infrastructure deal. Now assuming that stuff still gets funded, its a major modernization act that help bring back the economy coming out of covid and boosted employment and reduced unemployment to 30 year lows. 

The American Rescue Plan also boosted the nations access to affordable healthcare. Real stuff that helps real people. 

Didn’t help nobody nowhere. Just added tremendous amounts to the debt. And you know how I know? Not one repub voted for either of those two bills. Not one.

Lerxst1992

HughFreakingDillon said:

"if dems hadn't won the two elections they won, they would have lost both". Now that's some fucking genius logic right there folks. 

I think the point was the rules for the Biden victory were different from every other election we’ve had in recent times. These rules benefited Democrats, clearly. I know it’s been a long time which makes it difficult to think up there, and I know the Oilers could end the agony, but let’s try to think clearly, man. You can do better. I know you don’t think that, but it’s true





if you don’t believe that, the advances to quantitative computing are astounding in the last year. You can ask AI and learn something for yourself, but you have to know how to phrase the right question. Here’s the question to ask AI. Post into Google and learn. You are welcome.

“did the 2020 general election have different rules for voting?”

Lerxst1992

static111 said:

brianlux said:

Go Beavers said:

static111 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Tim Simmons said:

So if progressives made a play for middle America you’d get on board? 

by definition progressive is not in the middle, so its moot.

This is how Dems think, and why they lose when they should win.

this year, they should be running ads… “You like ur kids under 26 on ur health insurance, we did that. You like that hospital in your rural community, we did that. You like that semiconductor factory, we built near you and all those jobs, we did that. you like that bridge that we fixed that killed aunt Millie in the past, we fixed that bridge.

 Don’t even mention the word Democrat because that’s toxic to a large part of America. Just say we did that. By the way, you can’t win elections being toxic to a large part of the population. instead, democrats are running off screaming about democracy again, Trump is evil, doing all the things people rejected twice against Trump. 

The only two elections without massive mail in ballots, they lost both. And they are clueless and making the same mistakes again and again, running off with Bernie AOC about socialized healthcare and supporting Hamas.  If you don’t see the writing on the wall that this loses time and time again, this is the density genius of the Democratic Party filtering down to their voters. Clueless top to bottom.

Republicans have demonstrated you can win elections by being toxic to a large part of America. It plays directly into their platform. And once again, no one is pro-Hamas. 

Weird based on what I've read here, all Democrats are and it is part of their radical left platform.  I just don't know what to believe anymore.

If you don’t know what to believe, maybe question where you got the idea that the dems are radical left and pro Hamas. 

Put me down as registered Democrat, neither right, left, nor moderate, radically in favor of doing things that make the most sense, and pro-Palestinian freedom but not pro-Hamas.

But someone on the internet said that Palestinian freedom and being against the murdering of children in hospitals is the same as being pro hamas. Make it all make sense.

What examples do you have that show we can contain the dangers of a nation without containing the dangers of their leadership?

Lerxst1992

Tim Simmons said:

hunterh75 said:

Everyone here can bash DJT all day which is your US right but WTF can you say anything positive about JB from 2020-2024??
Bashing is easy cause you need Zero proof. Proving something with facts is harder. No talk of the MSM cover up of his dementia even from lib media.....prove me wrong, lol....Mic drop...,..

You mean, the story that was broken by *checks notes* "Liberal Media" CNN Talking Head Jake Tapper. Let me google news him real quick and lets see what sort of sourcing...oh

While it’s true that the liberal media broke the story…It’s also true that the liberal media is pretty much ignoring it. The Democrats (and Bidens team)  spent a lot of time telling us that Biden was the only person capable of beating Trump while someone was responsible for hiding his true condition from us.

 It’s paramount we learn the who what where when how behind this so we are not being lead by corrupt politicians in the future.But no one on the left seems to care

 

Tim Simmons

I mean, holding onto power or a job around that power is a tale as old as time. 

Washington has a way of taking its own trash out because people want to move up the ladder of power. I’m less concerned about the who because they are currently out of their campaign or WH job. And if they want to run or work for someone else again, there’s an albatross of complicity to this around their neck and they are outed on social media or in the DC circles. And some people won’t work again and some people will. These people won’t be hung in the town square or even go to jail. 

The buck stopped with Joe and Jill, the campaign manager and the chief of staff. Lay the blame there. Move on to the next thing. 

GlowGirl

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

"if dems hadn't won the two elections they won, they would have lost both". Now that's some fucking genius logic right there folks. 

I think the point was the rules for the Biden victory were different from every other election we’ve had in recent times. These rules benefited Democrats, clearly. I know it’s been a long time which makes it difficult to think up there, and I know the Oilers could end the agony, but let’s try to think clearly, man. You can do better. I know you don’t think that, but it’s true





if you don’t believe that, the advances to quantitative computing are astounding in the last year. You can ask AI and learn something for yourself, but you have to know how to phrase the right question. Here’s the question to ask AI. Post into Google and learn. You are welcome.

“did the 2020 general election have different rules for voting?”

I have learned to not trust AI for research. I only use it for fun. It hallucinates too much. I recently had a student turn in a paper on a book that I wrote. He used AI. There were quotes attributed to me that I never said, citing page numbers that didn’t exist. It also made up names of people in the book, as well as experiences that I supposedly wrote about that didn’t happen. After that, I rarely trust AI for important information. I would rather go to the actual - preferably - peer reviewed sources for any research information. 

OnWis97

tbergs said:

hunterh75 said:

mickeyrat said:

Gern Blansten said:

tbergs said:

Gern Blansten said:

DE4173 said:

"Pete Buttigieg just laid out the best case yet for the future of the Democratic party":

https://x.com/DemocraticWins/status/1928112976017404256?t=yMuzIq7vDKtSR9zFVx2kuw&s=19

Pete is great...my fear is that we just aren't ready for him yet

I feel like we might be by 2028. The pendulum has to swing back from the grievance and anger platform after the next 3.5 horrible years. Trump is going to bury us in debt with his policies and generally people should seek hope from a Dem candidate again. If Trump is hated enough, a la GWB after term 2, someone like Pete who has charisma, is a great speaker and overall a good person could easily get the popular vote despite automatically losing votes for no other reason than homophobia.

I kind of feel like the lost votes wouldn't vote dem anyway but I do wonder if the USA is ready to upend the first lady tradition...having a female POTUS is a bit different but this would be a radical change.

I would vote for him all day long though. I would love a Newsom/Pete ticket or Shapiro/Pete

we've already had a first second gentleman ,  soooooo.....

Pete could hardly qualify as a 2nd gentleman, lol. He's already fake breast fed a baby for months while neglecting his duties. Jesus fucking Christ

It'd be nice if you brought some substance to any of your posts or could ever leave the cult and not act like everything Trump does is great. It's just weird to worship anyone like that. 

I hate to say it but that is kinda substantive. That photo would be used constantly. Pete would not overcome that.