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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,827
    Tim Simmons said:
    I posted the Republican version in that thread. 
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,919
    Here’s the write up

    https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/52124-how-big-are-the-democratic-and-republican-party-tents
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,320
    Tim Simmons said:
    Imagine looking at this polling and saying, but we should still move way from this 



    Do you really think any of that will make a dent in the senate or Supreme Court in the next ten years ? Give all your money to the Dems so they can run ads on that stuff and see how much power you get in dc and how many democrats remain.


    Too bad democrats are becoming an endangered species. I wonder what policies the socialist party of America wants, because soon enough, they’ll have more power and influence than democrats.
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,320
    Go Beavers said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    The way you paint it makes it seem like Democrats will never win again unless they just become Republican. 

    Regarding Senate ( and by extension SCOTUS ) not sure where the optimism would be looking at 2026/28 maps. Then 2030 census, ten electoral votes/house seats moving from blue states to the south. That’s the context. Not sure about never, but these political maps make 2020 seem like a lifetime ago.
    It won’t be a 10 seat flip like you’re suggesting. 



    These are electoral votes as well, leaving mostly CA & NY for the south. Go ahead and fantasize those aren’t mostly votes going to the Rs. That fantasy  is your constitutional right.
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,919
    You keep talking like the 2024 election was a massive blow out. It wasn’t. It was close. A few great ideals that can swing some undecideds, or activation of those who stayed home with a candidate that is well liked, and it’s a different ballgame. Sorry I’m not as pessimistic as you are. 
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,320
    edited May 8
    Tim Simmons said:
    You keep talking like the 2024 election was a massive blow out. It wasn’t. It was close. A few great ideals that can swing some undecideds, or activation of those who stayed home with a candidate that is well liked, and it’s a different ballgame. Sorry I’m not as pessimistic as you are. 

    After arguing forcefully that he is a convict, a rapist, an insurrectionist…he won by two million votes and every swing state. 

    What is most problematic is he swung a couple solid blue states in his direction like NY by ten points from 2020. That is not insignificant.

    I am guessing that you did not realize your graph earlier is very telling. It can easily be interpreted as moderates getting alienated by the party and no longer identifying as democrats. So what is left? A smaller more liberal party that fantasizes the country will vote for stuff like that. Yes it’s not all bad… they should win the house next year, but they’ll need to identify with larger numbers of moderates more often to win the more important senate back in the forceable future, not more voters on the far left 

     

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,816
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    You keep talking like the 2024 election was a massive blow out. It wasn’t. It was close. A few great ideals that can swing some undecideds, or activation of those who stayed home with a candidate that is well liked, and it’s a different ballgame. Sorry I’m not as pessimistic as you are. 

    After arguing forcefully that he is a convict, a rapist, an insurrectionist…he won by two million votes and every swing state. 

    What is most problematic is he swung a couple solid blue states in his direction like NY by ten points from 2020. That is not insignificant.

    I am guessing that you did not realize your graph earlier is very telling. It can easily be interpreted as moderates getting alienated by the party and no longer identifying as democrats. So what is left? A smaller more liberal party that fantasizes the country will vote for stuff like that. Yes it’s not all bad… they should win the house next year, but they’ll need to identify with larger numbers of moderates more often to win the more important senate back in the forceable future, not more voters on the far left 

     

    It doesn’t change the fact that he is a sexual predator and a conman yeah too bad half this nation loves themselves criminals to lead the nation 
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,919
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    You keep talking like the 2024 election was a massive blow out. It wasn’t. It was close. A few great ideals that can swing some undecideds, or activation of those who stayed home with a candidate that is well liked, and it’s a different ballgame. Sorry I’m not as pessimistic as you are. 

    After arguing forcefully that he is a convict, a rapist, an insurrectionist…he won by two million votes and every swing state. 

    What is most problematic is he swung a couple solid blue states in his direction like NY by ten points from 2020. That is not insignificant.

    I am guessing that you did not realize your graph earlier is very telling. It can easily be interpreted as moderates getting alienated by the party and no longer identifying as democrats. So what is left? A smaller more liberal party that fantasizes the country will vote for stuff like that. Yes it’s not all bad… they should win the house next year, but they’ll need to identify with larger numbers of moderates more often to win the more important senate back in the forceable future, not more voters on the far left 

     

    No they just need to sell some policies that are popular with Americans. Trump won because Americans felt they weren’t winning with Biden and Harris and he was the only other option. 

    But we’ve also had this argument 100 times.


  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,919
    As of now the economy in the tank is going to move people back to the Dems. That’s been their plan this whole time. Just let Trump sink himself. 
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