Canadian Politics Redux
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my vote for carney is a vote against PP. Plain and simple.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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HughFreakingDillon said:I don't know enough about what you posted to comment. Sometimes I don't comment because I'm not educated enough to, not because I'm ignoring you personally.
And just stating an opinion that I didn't think it was ever in the cards for you to vote liberal wasn't an attack. I would just find it surprising that you'd even consider it, knowing that policy won't change that much."The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
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DarthMaeglin said:Fair enough, but why not ask me the question instead of stating an assumption?
"would you EVER have voted for carney?"
"I assume you wouldn't have voted for carney"
sure, the first one is a question, but the assumption is implied, rather than implicitly stated as I did in the second one.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:my vote for carney is a vote against PP. Plain and simple.
If I were voting against a party, that would virtually lock my vote in for the Conservatives to prevent the NDP from ever forming government federally.
But I choose instead to vote for the party that most closely aligns with my concerns and I look at 3 pillars: law & order, military and the economy. Any other policies are worthy of interest but those are my fundamental issues.
Over 30-some years of following our politics more often than not the Conservatives have a better track record on my big 3, especially law & order. But as I’ve said before I don’t belong to any political party and try to work to keep my vote beholden to no one.
I’ll admit that on this forum at least I don’t feel any need to criticize PP and the Conservatives since so many others are incredibly eager to do so, at which point I’ll point back to my first paragraph in this post."The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
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HughFreakingDillon said:because you specifically stated that was the nail in the coffin, that you wouldn't vote carney.
"would you EVER have voted for carney?"
"I assume you wouldn't have voted for carney"
sure, the first one is a question, but the assumption is implied, rather than implicitly stated as I did in the second one.
So, would I have ever voted for Carney? Maybe, but he’s taken himself out of the running since his anointment (insert joke yet again about wondering how many underage Chinese citizens voted for Carney?). Like Paul Chiang he looks good on paper, but when he’s observed over time he’s something else."The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
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DarthMaeglin said:Then you’ll end up with the government you deserve, one way or another, and it probably won’t be the government you want or need, either way it goes.
If I were voting against a party, that would virtually lock my vote in for the Conservatives to prevent the NDP from ever forming government federally.
But I choose instead to vote for the party that most closely aligns with my concerns and I look at 3 pillars: law & order, military and the economy. Any other policies are worthy of interest but those are my fundamental issues.
Over 30-some years of following our politics more often than not the Conservatives have a better track record on my big 3, especially law & order. But as I’ve said before I don’t belong to any political party and try to work to keep my vote beholden to no one.
I’ll admit that on this forum at least I don’t feel any need to criticize PP and the Conservatives since so many others are incredibly eager to do so, at which point I’ll point back to my first paragraph in this post.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:how do you figure that?"The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
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HughFreakingDillon said:my vote for carney is a vote against PP. Plain and simple.
That said... should he win the election.. I can't see him being worse than Trudeau by a long shot. (Time will tell)Toronto 2000
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Parksy said:sucks.. but I'm in the same boat presently. I don't consider myself a liberal or Carney fan per se. But one thing I do know for sure, I cringe every time I think of Pierre as PM.
That said... should he win the election.. I can't see him being worse than Trudeau by a long shot. (Time will tell)2011: Vancouver
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DarthMaeglin said:The Law of Unintended Consequences.
just trying to unpack this:
so you're saying it's the intent behind my vote that will determine whether I'm happy with it or not? that sounds a little...silly.Post edited by HughFreakingDillon onBy The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:speaking of assumptions...
just trying to unpack this:
so you're saying it's the intent behind my vote that will determine whether I'm happy with it or not? that sounds a little...silly.
My own voting experience is that my representation in government doesn’t align with my own vote. But by voting FOR something as opposed to voting to counter others votes at the end I can live with myself and whatever the result may be."The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
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that still doesn't make sense. why would I vote for someone who I thought could be worse just to negate someone else's vote? I'm voting carney cuz I can't vote for PP. And I won't vote Singh.
if I thought carney was "bad" I either would vote Green or not at all.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
DarthMaeglin said:Then you’ll end up with the government you deserve, one way or another
And none of us are that gullible to believe you were ever considering Carney.0 -
dignin said:I sure hope that's the case.
And none of us are that gullible to believe you were ever considering Carney.
"The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
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dignin said:I sure hope that's the case.
And none of us are that gullible to believe you were ever considering Carney.
Will anyone speak to the points I have presented?"The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
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DarthMaeglin said:Fine, be glib then call me a liar. Really moves the discussion forward. Fuck you.
You go vote for the guy who has the paper thin resume with little accomplishments to his name.
I've got no patience for BS anymore.0 -
It doesn't really matter. The odds of either party making anything better is slim to one. Not sure everyone gets so behind politicians. Most of them just make things worse.
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Zod said:It doesn't really matter. The odds of either party making anything better is slim to one. Not sure everyone gets so behind politicians. Most of them just make things worse.
He’s trying to walk that line of acting like trump but trying to act like he’d stand up to him. Carney’s already shown me his big middle finger to trump, and I fucking loved it.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
This is beautiful....
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