Canadian Politics Redux

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Canada... heeeeeeeeeelp!

    In the meantime, perhaps we should be 5150'd.
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,908
    I mean we're still figuring it out up here too.

    Our health care system is now woefully understaffed and underresourced.
    Our housing has skyrocketed, allthough mostly on the West Coast and Southern Ontario.
    Chronic structural deficits, and we're in an election campaign where both primary candidates are campaigning in higher spending and less taxes (shrug).
    We have a Ferrel population of homeless drug addicts
     
    The upside is we have an upcoming election, and still get to make a choice.  Even if I lack faith that either option can improve things.

    Upsides are we have lots of resources, a relatively small population, we lean socially left, seem less divided than America.   Our right often has the problem that they're votes are concentrated in a few geographic areas of the Country, so without widespread support it's hard for them to get voted in.  

    I dunno.  I'm in Elizabeth May's riding who I voted for in the last few elections because I wasn't supportive of the Liberals or Conservatives.   This time I either keep with that, or vote Liberal.  Which is crazy.  Had the election been a few months ago I would of voted Conservative to get the Liberal party out.   I still don't like it's a new leader with the same old party.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,579
    As seen on a billboard on I-71 southbound in Cincinnati Ohio, 

    tariffs are a tax
     on your grocery bills 

    paid for by the government of Canada
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Just another way us sneaky Canadians are taking advantage of the US.

    Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

    Jason Stanley, who says grandmother fled Berlin with his father in 1939, says US may become ‘fascist dictatorship’

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/26/yale-professor-fascism-canada

    Not ominous at all.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,579
    mickeyrat said:
    As seen on a billboard on I-71 southbound in Cincinnati Ohio, 

    tariffs are a tax
     on your grocery bills 

    paid for by the government of Canada
    seen 3 more. 1 was the same.

    rhe other 2 were

    on hardworking americans

    and

    on gas prices
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,908
    Maybe we should of specified who was charging the tax on those ads? :)
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,579
    Zod said:
    Maybe we should of specified who was charging the tax on those ads? :)

    contact the appropriate official in your government. 

     I look forward to the updated billboards and now that I know they are changing the second line I hope to see more....
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    https://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/canadian-government-billboards

    Billboards up in 12 red states explained by Canadian Foreign Minister Joly above.


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  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    edited March 27

    "Not a snowball's chance in hell."
    I was swimming in the Great Barrier Reef 
    Animals were hiding behind the Coral 
    Except for little Turtle
    I could swear he's trying to talk to me 
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  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 3,019
    Spunkie said:

    "Not a snowball's chance in hell."
    I love that!

    Not a skier but I have family in Vernon (close to Kelowna), it’s gorgeous up there!
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  • Original_Shifty
    Original_Shifty Great White North Posts: 755

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    I hope the European nations and Canada conspire to counter these absurd tariffs.  The whole thing is so embarrassing.  
  • Parksy
    Parksy Posts: 1,852
    mrussel1 said:
    I hope the European nations and Canada conspire to counter these absurd tariffs.  The whole thing is so embarrassing.  
    My take for what it's worth... 

    We (Canada) need to tread a bit lightly here. Trump is either absolutely bonkers stupid crazy...  or he has some nefarious plans up his sleeve. Both important and both serious in my opinion considering he's the POTUS. 

    That said... anything we (Canada) plan to do would likely have far reaching and long lasting impacts.  It's the long lasting that worries me. 

    Considering how nuts Trump is... it's a pretty good bet that his power doesn't last long. Even if he maintains his presidency for 3 or so more years... what happens after that?  As a Canadian, I don't love the idea of severing ties with the U.S. entirely because of this clown. 

    It'd be like finding a rebound relationship just to get back at your ex. Sounds amazing and while it would sure be fun at the time.... if you mislead the rebound.. that could backfire and haunt you. Especially is he/she realizes you're just using them to get back at your ex. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,713
    edited March 27
    Parksy said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I hope the European nations and Canada conspire to counter these absurd tariffs.  The whole thing is so embarrassing.  
    My take for what it's worth... 

    We (Canada) need to tread a bit lightly here. Trump is either absolutely bonkers stupid crazy...  or he has some nefarious plans up his sleeve. Both important and both serious in my opinion considering he's the POTUS. 

    That said... anything we (Canada) plan to do would likely have far reaching and long lasting impacts.  It's the long lasting that worries me. 

    Considering how nuts Trump is... it's a pretty good bet that his power doesn't last long. Even if he maintains his presidency for 3 or so more years... what happens after that?  As a Canadian, I don't love the idea of severing ties with the U.S. entirely because of this clown. 

    It'd be like finding a rebound relationship just to get back at your ex. Sounds amazing and while it would sure be fun at the time.... if you mislead the rebound.. that could backfire and haunt you. Especially is he/she realizes you're just using them to get back at your ex. 

    I feel pretty confident saying that it's both.
    I think what happens after Trump, if he doesn't get a 3rd term, is that Vance becomes president, which isn't much better, if at all. His goals are similar and probably even more insane. He'd be even more dangerous, because he could come off as more sane, even though that isn't really the case.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Parksy said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I hope the European nations and Canada conspire to counter these absurd tariffs.  The whole thing is so embarrassing.  
    My take for what it's worth... 

    We (Canada) need to tread a bit lightly here. Trump is either absolutely bonkers stupid crazy...  or he has some nefarious plans up his sleeve. Both important and both serious in my opinion considering he's the POTUS. 

    That said... anything we (Canada) plan to do would likely have far reaching and long lasting impacts.  It's the long lasting that worries me. 

    Considering how nuts Trump is... it's a pretty good bet that his power doesn't last long. Even if he maintains his presidency for 3 or so more years... what happens after that?  As a Canadian, I don't love the idea of severing ties with the U.S. entirely because of this clown. 

    It'd be like finding a rebound relationship just to get back at your ex. Sounds amazing and while it would sure be fun at the time.... if you mislead the rebound.. that could backfire and haunt you. Especially is he/she realizes you're just using them to get back at your ex. 
    My expectations is that this "war" is going to run its course in the matter of 18 months at the most.  By that time, the pressure from a recession or stagflation will either lead to flip in the House and/or too much pressure on Trump.  What I don't think is going to happen is that businesses in US, Canada, and the EU will disassemble their integrated manufacturing economies and completely build protected economies.  We are going to have some serious pain, but the business leaders do not believe that we are going to a protected/tariff oriented economy long-term.  
  • Hawk123
    Hawk123 Posts: 2,369
    This whole tariff battle is just ridiculous. At this point we should just do the opposite of retaliatory.  Drop all tariffs on the US, look like we’re playing nice and he will think he’s won. If he doesn’t remove his tariffs then we have every right to surcharge our exports, including oil.  
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,413
    Parksy said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I hope the European nations and Canada conspire to counter these absurd tariffs.  The whole thing is so embarrassing.  
    My take for what it's worth... 

    We (Canada) need to tread a bit lightly here. Trump is either absolutely bonkers stupid crazy...  or he has some nefarious plans up his sleeve. Both important and both serious in my opinion considering he's the POTUS. 

    That said... anything we (Canada) plan to do would likely have far reaching and long lasting impacts.  It's the long lasting that worries me. 

    Considering how nuts Trump is... it's a pretty good bet that his power doesn't last long. Even if he maintains his presidency for 3 or so more years... what happens after that?  As a Canadian, I don't love the idea of severing ties with the U.S. entirely because of this clown. 

    It'd be like finding a rebound relationship just to get back at your ex. Sounds amazing and while it would sure be fun at the time.... if you mislead the rebound.. that could backfire and haunt you. Especially is he/she realizes you're just using them to get back at your ex. 
    Like Iran, Canada and the EU can never trust ‘Murica again. The white Christian nationalists, backed by the billionaire class and an apartheid era “richest” techbro electing COOTWH and the previous SCOTUS buy, ‘Murica is broken, not to be trusted nor relied upon. It’s over and not coming back to what it was before. Whatever that was. A dream?
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  • mickeyrat
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    mickeyrat said:
    Zod said:
    Maybe we should of specified who was charging the tax on those ads? :)

    contact the appropriate official in your government. 

     I look forward to the updated billboards and now that I know they are changing the second line I hope to see more....

    now in french as well....
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    ^ Flex. Danish next?

    We need an Americans kill for rare earth minerals and fresh water thread.

    I always thought wars would get good when we start fighting for water rather than oil. Although I didn't see the mineral thing coming when I was the kid.
    I was swimming in the Great Barrier Reef 
    Animals were hiding behind the Coral 
    Except for little Turtle
    I could swear he's trying to talk to me 
    Gurgle Gurgle
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,713
    edited March 28
    Spunkie said:
    ^ Flex. Danish next?

    We need an Americans kill for rare earth minerals and fresh water thread.

    I always thought wars would get good when we start fighting for water rather than oil. Although I didn't see the mineral thing coming when I was the kid.

    The water wars are inevitable I think. My only solace is that it might not happen until after I'm dead. That sad hope is weakening by the day, just because a certain orange oaf seems ready to jump the gun.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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