Canadian Politics Redux

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  • Original_ShiftyOriginal_Shifty Great White North Posts: 627

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,455
    I hope the European nations and Canada conspire to counter these absurd tariffs.  The whole thing is so embarrassing.  
  • ParksyParksy Posts: 1,809
    mrussel1 said:
    I hope the European nations and Canada conspire to counter these absurd tariffs.  The whole thing is so embarrassing.  
    My take for what it's worth... 

    We (Canada) need to tread a bit lightly here. Trump is either absolutely bonkers stupid crazy...  or he has some nefarious plans up his sleeve. Both important and both serious in my opinion considering he's the POTUS. 

    That said... anything we (Canada) plan to do would likely have far reaching and long lasting impacts.  It's the long lasting that worries me. 

    Considering how nuts Trump is... it's a pretty good bet that his power doesn't last long. Even if he maintains his presidency for 3 or so more years... what happens after that?  As a Canadian, I don't love the idea of severing ties with the U.S. entirely because of this clown. 

    It'd be like finding a rebound relationship just to get back at your ex. Sounds amazing and while it would sure be fun at the time.... if you mislead the rebound.. that could backfire and haunt you. Especially is he/she realizes you're just using them to get back at your ex. 
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,248
    edited March 27
    Parksy said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I hope the European nations and Canada conspire to counter these absurd tariffs.  The whole thing is so embarrassing.  
    My take for what it's worth... 

    We (Canada) need to tread a bit lightly here. Trump is either absolutely bonkers stupid crazy...  or he has some nefarious plans up his sleeve. Both important and both serious in my opinion considering he's the POTUS. 

    That said... anything we (Canada) plan to do would likely have far reaching and long lasting impacts.  It's the long lasting that worries me. 

    Considering how nuts Trump is... it's a pretty good bet that his power doesn't last long. Even if he maintains his presidency for 3 or so more years... what happens after that?  As a Canadian, I don't love the idea of severing ties with the U.S. entirely because of this clown. 

    It'd be like finding a rebound relationship just to get back at your ex. Sounds amazing and while it would sure be fun at the time.... if you mislead the rebound.. that could backfire and haunt you. Especially is he/she realizes you're just using them to get back at your ex. 

    I feel pretty confident saying that it's both.
    I think what happens after Trump, if he doesn't get a 3rd term, is that Vance becomes president, which isn't much better, if at all. His goals are similar and probably even more insane. He'd be even more dangerous, because he could come off as more sane, even though that isn't really the case.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,455
    Parksy said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I hope the European nations and Canada conspire to counter these absurd tariffs.  The whole thing is so embarrassing.  
    My take for what it's worth... 

    We (Canada) need to tread a bit lightly here. Trump is either absolutely bonkers stupid crazy...  or he has some nefarious plans up his sleeve. Both important and both serious in my opinion considering he's the POTUS. 

    That said... anything we (Canada) plan to do would likely have far reaching and long lasting impacts.  It's the long lasting that worries me. 

    Considering how nuts Trump is... it's a pretty good bet that his power doesn't last long. Even if he maintains his presidency for 3 or so more years... what happens after that?  As a Canadian, I don't love the idea of severing ties with the U.S. entirely because of this clown. 

    It'd be like finding a rebound relationship just to get back at your ex. Sounds amazing and while it would sure be fun at the time.... if you mislead the rebound.. that could backfire and haunt you. Especially is he/she realizes you're just using them to get back at your ex. 
    My expectations is that this "war" is going to run its course in the matter of 18 months at the most.  By that time, the pressure from a recession or stagflation will either lead to flip in the House and/or too much pressure on Trump.  What I don't think is going to happen is that businesses in US, Canada, and the EU will disassemble their integrated manufacturing economies and completely build protected economies.  We are going to have some serious pain, but the business leaders do not believe that we are going to a protected/tariff oriented economy long-term.  
  • Hawk123Hawk123 Posts: 2,344
    This whole tariff battle is just ridiculous. At this point we should just do the opposite of retaliatory.  Drop all tariffs on the US, look like we’re playing nice and he will think he’s won. If he doesn’t remove his tariffs then we have every right to surcharge our exports, including oil.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,691
    Parksy said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I hope the European nations and Canada conspire to counter these absurd tariffs.  The whole thing is so embarrassing.  
    My take for what it's worth... 

    We (Canada) need to tread a bit lightly here. Trump is either absolutely bonkers stupid crazy...  or he has some nefarious plans up his sleeve. Both important and both serious in my opinion considering he's the POTUS. 

    That said... anything we (Canada) plan to do would likely have far reaching and long lasting impacts.  It's the long lasting that worries me. 

    Considering how nuts Trump is... it's a pretty good bet that his power doesn't last long. Even if he maintains his presidency for 3 or so more years... what happens after that?  As a Canadian, I don't love the idea of severing ties with the U.S. entirely because of this clown. 

    It'd be like finding a rebound relationship just to get back at your ex. Sounds amazing and while it would sure be fun at the time.... if you mislead the rebound.. that could backfire and haunt you. Especially is he/she realizes you're just using them to get back at your ex. 
    Like Iran, Canada and the EU can never trust ‘Murica again. The white Christian nationalists, backed by the billionaire class and an apartheid era “richest” techbro electing COOTWH and the previous SCOTUS buy, ‘Murica is broken, not to be trusted nor relied upon. It’s over and not coming back to what it was before. Whatever that was. A dream?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,915
    mickeyrat said:
    Zod said:
    Maybe we should of specified who was charging the tax on those ads? :)

    contact the appropriate official in your government. 

     I look forward to the updated billboards and now that I know they are changing the second line I hope to see more....

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  • SpunkieSpunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 6,860
    ^ Flex. Danish next?

    We need an Americans kill for rare earth minerals and fresh water thread.

    I always thought wars would get good when we start fighting for water rather than oil. Although I didn't see the mineral thing coming when I was the kid.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,248
    edited March 28
    Spunkie said:
    ^ Flex. Danish next?

    We need an Americans kill for rare earth minerals and fresh water thread.

    I always thought wars would get good when we start fighting for water rather than oil. Although I didn't see the mineral thing coming when I was the kid.

    The water wars are inevitable I think. My only solace is that it might not happen until after I'm dead. That sad hope is weakening by the day, just because a certain orange oaf seems ready to jump the gun.
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  • SpunkieSpunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 6,860
    Hang in there :) We Canadians seem to feel more war vibes than the instigators I guess, the way you voted.

    First Nation people try to think in seven future generations and it's easy to start this when you think of your offspring. I think about several generations back, too, whether that's a thing or not, and as such I wonder what makes these minerals so critical: The cars that killed the world, or our computers, tvs, and phones? How easily we accept that term "critical" minerals. I think protecting mother Earth would be critical. 
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  • SpunkieSpunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 6,860
    oh yeah, i forgot, USA needs critical minerals to feed their war machine.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,775
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • erebuserebus Posts: 584
    If the Liberals somehow prevail, I would think that both Poilievre and Singh would have to go.
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    Trump threats open 'floodgate' of inquiries from U.S. physicians about moving north
  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,841
    I haven’t been impressed by Carney so far, and this is the nail in the coffin, ensuring that I won’t vote for the Carney/Trudeau Liberals.

    With all the talk of treason lately, this is a clear case, and not dropping the candidate is beyond my comprehension. What would the reaction be (especially here) if a Conservative candidate made the same statement?

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  • SpunkieSpunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 6,860
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    I could swear he's trying to talk to me 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,775
    I haven’t been impressed by Carney so far, and this is the nail in the coffin, ensuring that I won’t vote for the Carney/Trudeau Liberals.

    With all the talk of treason lately, this is a clear case, and not dropping the candidate is beyond my comprehension. What would the reaction be (especially here) if a Conservative candidate made the same statement?

    yikes. he absolutely should go. we don't do trump/american style politics up here. Carney should full stop tell this guy to resign. 
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  • Original_ShiftyOriginal_Shifty Great White North Posts: 627
    Yah, this is definitely a misstep by Carney. He should have asked Paul Chiang to step away.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,915
    Yah, this is definitely a misstep by Carney. He should have asked Paul Chiang to step away.

    would that have been done behind the scenes first? if so, what then if the answer was no? how does he publically handle that?
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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,841
    Ok, this is just funny, lol.


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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,841
    mickeyrat said:
    Yah, this is definitely a misstep by Carney. He should have asked Paul Chiang to step away.

    would that have been done behind the scenes first? if so, what then if the answer was no? how does he publically handle that?
    As I understand it, as party leader Carney has the ultimate power to rescind a nomination with very few limits.

    I’m glad Chiang stepped down (and also happy the RCMP are investigating him), but not kicking him out was a failure of leadership by Carney in my eyes. Disavowing Chiang and kicking him out of the party should have been a no brainer.
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,775
    edited April 2
    hahaha. This is my thirst trap, Vicki Shae, a Winnipeg radio personality, and IMHO, the hottest woman in Winnipeg (gorgeous and funny-unfortunately moved to a country radio station). 

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  • Original_ShiftyOriginal_Shifty Great White North Posts: 627
    I guess the Liberals aren't the only party with bat shit crazy people running in the election.

    A Conservative candidate who once voiced his support for “public hangings”............

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,014
    A bold and strong move by Canada.  I am envious of this.  Kudos!


    Breaking: Trump Just Surrendered To Canada

    You want to know what power looks like? It’s Mark f*ing Carney ghosting America’s Rapist in Chief for three months, and ignored him all day yesterday, cutting America off at the knees, forcing Donald Trump to come crawling back today like the MAGA dog he is.

    Yesterday, Canada’s Prime Minister —Mark Carney—severed economic and security ties with Trump’s America. Full stop. No warning. No negotiation. Just boom: "We’re done here."


    More at link...








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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,841
    It’s becoming incredibly troubling how often Carney is saying Canada’s fucked up after the last five years without acknowledging that he was one of Justin’s main economic advisers (an economic adviser to someone who doesn’t trouble themselves with monetary policy). He’s a big part of why we’re in a weakened position in dealing with the US.

    That, coupled with his track record of dishonesty (Brookfield hq move, stolen valour, plagiarism in university), along with his handling of Paul Chiang (did Carney ever disown him?) means there’s no way I can vote for him or his party.

    His party, by the way, which has largely plagiarized Conservative policies without an ounce of acknowledgment.

     I honestly think that Carney’s intention is that he’s running the shortest campaign possible in large part to avoid being forced to publicly disclose his assets. If the Liberals don’t form government, he never sits in Parliament (he’ll resign his seat immediately if the party loses), never has to disclose his potential/likely conflicts of interest and Canadians never know how close we came to being governed by a PM who needs to recuse himself from the majority of government decisions.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,248
    I simply cannot believe that you ever would have voted for Carney, no matter what happened.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,775
    I was actually going to say that yesterday. No chance you'd vote for liberals after the justin years. 
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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,841
    PJ_Soul said:
    I simply cannot believe that you ever would have voted for Carney, no matter what happened.
    I was actually going to say that yesterday. No chance you'd vote for liberals after the justin years. 
    The Carney Liberals aren’t far removed from the Justin Liberals in terms of overall policies. Carney still hasn’t explained how eliminating the consumer carbon tax (with a VERY Trumpian ceremony it should be noted) prevents the industrial polluters from passing their taxes down to us the consumers.

    Regardless of where I sit, are you ok with Carney’s seeming facility for blatant duplicity? Examples noted above, which you both didn’t touch, instead offering opinions about me.

    Despite what you think, I did hope the Liberals would win me back. Carney was about as far from the right person as the party could have gone. Of the field that was left in the race I had been hoping Karina Gould would have won.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,775
    PJ_Soul said:
    I simply cannot believe that you ever would have voted for Carney, no matter what happened.
    I was actually going to say that yesterday. No chance you'd vote for liberals after the justin years. 
    The Carney Liberals aren’t far removed from the Justin Liberals in terms of overall policies. Carney still hasn’t explained how eliminating the consumer carbon tax (with a VERY Trumpian ceremony it should be noted) prevents the industrial polluters from passing their taxes down to us the consumers.

    Regardless of where I sit, are you ok with Carney’s seeming facility for blatant duplicity? Examples noted above, which you both didn’t touch, instead offering opinions about me.

    Despite what you think, I did hope the Liberals would win me back. Carney was about as far from the right person as the party could have gone. Of the field that was left in the race I had been hoping Karina Gould would have won.
    I don't know enough about what you posted to comment. Sometimes I don't comment because I'm not educated enough to, not because I'm ignoring you personally. 

    And just stating an opinion that I didn't think it was ever in the cards for you to vote liberal wasn't an attack. I would just find it surprising that you'd even consider it, knowing that policy won't change that much. 
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