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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,159
    tbergs said:
    mickeyrat said:



    I mean, he answered the question with a reasonable response that can also be interpreted as just trying to find anyone that may be there illegally. Seems pretty similar to canvassing that police would do when investigating at a multi-unit complex. Neighbors often have information on what's going on around them. The issue would be what they asked for from those other residents. Were they forcing them to ID themselves or asking about a specific person? There isn't enough information in this little snippet to support a claim by either side, but in the absence of further evidence, there's nothing nefarious here.

    targeting specific people i.e. violent criminals , suggests they should know the location of these targets. no?
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  • mickeyrat
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,496
    mickeyrat said:
    tbergs said:
    mickeyrat said:



    I mean, he answered the question with a reasonable response that can also be interpreted as just trying to find anyone that may be there illegally. Seems pretty similar to canvassing that police would do when investigating at a multi-unit complex. Neighbors often have information on what's going on around them. The issue would be what they asked for from those other residents. Were they forcing them to ID themselves or asking about a specific person? There isn't enough information in this little snippet to support a claim by either side, but in the absence of further evidence, there's nothing nefarious here.

    targeting specific people i.e. violent criminals , suggests they should know the location of these targets. no?
    Yeah, unless the unit number they have doesn't have that person in it so then they're following up with neighboring units. I don't give ICE the benefit of the doubt, but I'm also not for assuming without supporting information to the contrary. This isn't a house with single residency. Apartment complexes are a fucking nightmare for LE because of people's tendency to flop in various units, especially if they are a criminal. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 3,246
    https://youtu.be/FZ8aQF7u1oM?si=LU7Pq5o5o_Btj-VZ
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  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 3,246
    🤡

    https://x.com/DefiyantlyFree/status/1888005373048533301?t=-6viAiuxT45X6Ieo62VyEQ&s=19
    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • battle1
    battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    DE4173 said:
    🤡

    https://x.com/DefiyantlyFree/status/1888005373048533301?t=-6viAiuxT45X6Ieo62VyEQ&s=19
    I would love to personally drag her out of this country. Complete scum. 
  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 3,246
    "Dave didn't do anything." 😄

    "You are rallying your best out here, I have to tell you." 💀
    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • battle1
    battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    DE4173 said:
    "Dave didn't do anything." 😄

    "You are rallying your best out here, I have to tell you." 💀
    And thats the scum I have to shamefully say I vote with? And people wonder why normal Democrats are turning on their own party. The party is radicalized. 
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,654
    battle1 said:
    DE4173 said:
    🤡

    https://x.com/DefiyantlyFree/status/1888005373048533301?t=-6viAiuxT45X6Ieo62VyEQ&s=19
    I would love to personally drag her out of this country. Complete scum. 
    No everyone appreciates the First Amendment. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,159
    Go Beavers said:
    battle1 said:
    DE4173 said:
    🤡

    https://x.com/DefiyantlyFree/status/1888005373048533301?t=-6viAiuxT45X6Ieo62VyEQ&s=19
    I would love to personally drag her out of this country. Complete scum. 
    No everyone appreciates the First Amendment. 

    its amazing how much in common some folks have in that regard.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,654
    battle1 said:
    DE4173 said:
    "Dave didn't do anything." 😄

    "You are rallying your best out here, I have to tell you." 💀
    And thats the scum I have to shamefully say I vote with? And people wonder why normal Democrats are turning on their own party. The party is radicalized. 
    The party’s not radicalized. The right wing has run a successful campaign to tie fringe people to the left mainstream. It started with fox news and now is hammered all day every day on social media. Don’t fall for it. 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,166
    edited February 8
    battle1 said: 
    DE4173 said:
    "Dave didn't do anything." 😄

    "You are rallying your best out here, I have to tell you." 💀
    And thats the scum I have to shamefully say I vote with? And people wonder why normal Democrats are turning on their own party. The party is radicalized. 
    They don’t run the party. The party is a bunch of center left people. 

    I understand people like that are obnoxious, but in this case we have no context to the video (it just jumps into the amped up confrontation ) especially if that one college girl who shit herself posted it. She’s and her ilk are just as obnoxious on the other side. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,997
    You have to be a complete moron to believe a troll like insurrection barbie interviews/confronts mainstream anything. Learn to recognize propaganda. 

    I guess trolls don’t recognize trolls? 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • battle1
    battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    You have to be a complete moron to believe a troll like insurrection barbie interviews/confronts mainstream anything. Learn to recognize propaganda. 

    I guess trolls don’t recognize trolls? 
    Thank you Hugh. Have a happy evening. 

    After further review, I would still drag that scum out of this country myself if I could. Point still stands. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,159
    tbergs said:
    mickeyrat said:
    tbergs said:
    mickeyrat said:



    I mean, he answered the question with a reasonable response that can also be interpreted as just trying to find anyone that may be there illegally. Seems pretty similar to canvassing that police would do when investigating at a multi-unit complex. Neighbors often have information on what's going on around them. The issue would be what they asked for from those other residents. Were they forcing them to ID themselves or asking about a specific person? There isn't enough information in this little snippet to support a claim by either side, but in the absence of further evidence, there's nothing nefarious here.

    targeting specific people i.e. violent criminals , suggests they should know the location of these targets. no?
    Yeah, unless the unit number they have doesn't have that person in it so then they're following up with neighboring units. I don't give ICE the benefit of the doubt, but I'm also not for assuming without supporting information to the contrary. This isn't a house with single residency. Apartment complexes are a fucking nightmare for LE because of people's tendency to flop in various units, especially if they are a criminal. 



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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,159


    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,159


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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • smile6680
    smile6680 Posts: 437
    Tim Simmons said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    This is really fucked up! Wtf kind of deal is involved here? This feels like a government sponsored form of human trafficking to me.

    El Salvador offers to house violent US criminals and deportees of any nationality in unprecedented deal

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/03/americas/el-salvador-migrant-deal-marco-rubio-intl-hnk

    yeah, outside of sending El Salvadoians back, sending anyone else is super fucked. 

    Honest question. Why does it matter if they are housed in the United States or El Salvador if they aren't from either country?

    I'm neither for or against it. I havn't read about this yet. 
  • smile6680
    smile6680 Posts: 437
    edited February 13
    Go Beavers said:
    battle1 said:
    DE4173 said:
    "Dave didn't do anything." 😄

    "You are rallying your best out here, I have to tell you." 💀
    And thats the scum I have to shamefully say I vote with? And people wonder why normal Democrats are turning on their own party. The party is radicalized. 
    The party’s not radicalized. The right wing has run a successful campaign to tie fringe people to the left mainstream. It started with fox news and now is hammered all day every day on social media. Don’t fall for it. 
    Both parties are being heavily influenced by the radicals within them lately. This is why we are getting the gross over corrections since Trump has taken office.

    Both parties need to encourage their radicals to leave and start a new party. Unfortunately, both parties understand they will lose in the short term and (most) politicians are only concerned about what's best for them right now. 



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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,496
    smile6680 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    This is really fucked up! Wtf kind of deal is involved here? This feels like a government sponsored form of human trafficking to me.

    El Salvador offers to house violent US criminals and deportees of any nationality in unprecedented deal

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/03/americas/el-salvador-migrant-deal-marco-rubio-intl-hnk

    yeah, outside of sending El Salvadoians back, sending anyone else is super fucked. 

    Honest question. Why does it matter if they are housed in the United States or El Salvador if they aren't from either country?

    I'm neither for or against it. I havn't read about this yet. 
    Maybe it would be easier to understand if you imagined this happening to a US citizen who had been accused/convicted in say Nicaragua, but they had a deal where Russia would be willing to take any criminals. To the country accepting these individuals, whether it's El Salvador or Russia, they're doing it for monetary gain or as a benefit of the deal. The concern would be about human rights and conditions once transported to these other countries to basically be forgotten about. I don't think any country should ever be shipping people from neither country to be housed in prisons. That's beyond fucked up and some real 3rd world shit. Either extradite to their home country or house them in the country leveraging charges. Anything else is basically human trafficking. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
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