The Official 2025 Tour Rumor Thread

Weston1283 · February 4

drfox said:

So quiet on the rumour front….,

I mean, I think we are probably at least 2-3 months away from any rumors

They aren't even hitting the road for 10 weeks or so for the last announced tour

The only other thing we've gotten is a "rumor" for is the Sphere sometime which we know will be at least August at the earliest due to other Sphere shows

So even if there is a small North America leg for the fall or around the Sphere, those rumors probably wont even leak until late spring or early summer

Europe is completely out for 2025 and South America in all likelihood would have been announced by now

Vedd Hedd · February 4

aisleseats said:

Vedd Hedd said:

Had to shush a guy at the David Gray concert in Chicago yesterday who continued to talk during each song, but then also wanted to be the "shout out loud at the performer" guy in-between songs. Dude was drunk, looked a bit tweaky from drugs.

Shut the fuck up, man. Look, if you are into the music and randomly "woo!" or scream out a lyric...I get it...in the moment the passion can take over.

Screaming out, "YOu are why we make babies" at a singer during a performance just proves you are there to make the concert about yourself. Again, stfu and control your impulses.

I hate to derail the thread any further, but this post reminded me of something that happened to me a few years ago.

I was front row at a David Gray show at a small, indoor theater. I brought my friend, who gets up for work at 3am. So, she had been up all day, and it was nearing 11p. After the encore break, DG and the band came back out. And just as they were about to start playing again, I looked over at my friend. She looked absolutely beat. So, I leaned in and jokingly said, "Don't fall asleep now." Well, David somehow heard that and took it out of context. He turns and shoots me a dirty look and says into the mic quite tersely, "Okay then." because he thought I was implying that the show was boring. I was mortified.

I ended up getting a setlist after the show, and the next song was supposed to be Silver Lining. But they skipped it. To this day, I still wonder if it was because of me.

haha, omg. Well at least its memorable.

Yeah, I mean...a quick word with your partner or something, "OMG, I love this song."...Im not going to care.

Extended conversations about your workday....shut the fuck up. And thats what this guy was doing. Non-stop conversations, and he was drunk, so he was louder than he thought. And everyone around him was too intimidated to say anything. At one point, when a song ended, I just turned around and said, "Hey, they talking during songs needs to stop, please!". And I said it in a nice, smiley way. It stopped....for about 3-4 songs. He then went to get another drink, came back, missed his favorite song, and woooed. Then continued to talk to his GF/Wife/friend about their upcoming weekend plans, etc.

Vedd Hedd · February 4

njhaley1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

blairs1 said:

BF25394 said:

Vedd Hedd said:

Had to shush a guy at the David Gray concert in Chicago yesterday who continued to talk during each song, but then also wanted to be the "shout out loud at the performer" guy in-between songs. Dude was drunk, looked a bit tweaky from drugs.

Shut the fuck up, man. Look, if you are into the music and randomly "woo!" or scream out a lyric...I get it...in the moment the passion can take over.

Screaming out, "YOu are why we make babies" at a singer during a performance just proves you are there to make the concert about yourself. Again, stfu and control your impulses.

"Wooing" is often telling. A lot of times, it's just someone trying to call attention to the fact that they recognize the song. It can be like an internet poster posting "First!" Other times, it's an acknowledgment of a great solo-- that the "Woo" drowns out.

The only appropriate time to “woo!” is when someone gets chopped in wrestling. Or when your a limousine riding, jet flying, kiss stealing, wheeling n dealing, son of a gun..

(or whatever his saying was).

The drum intro to Last Exit is a perfectly acceptable place to let out a WOOOOO when seeing Pearl Jam live.

Also the start of DTE now that Ed's saving his vocal chords.

Right, there are obvious places in concerts when its ok to woo. During an extended solo, for example, when someone is really going nuts on the guitar. At the start of your favorite song, etc. Heck, even in-between songs...if its all part of the emotion, I dont care.

What I dont like is someone trying to be a part of the concert. One time? Ok, I will even let you have that one....."WE LOVE YOU DAVID GRAY!!!!!" when they are getting their next instrument lined up.....fine. Have at it.

But when the SINGER is talking? Shut up and listen.
But seriously...DURING A SONG? All I ask is if you have to say something, whisper it to your partner. Extended conversations....SHUT THE FUCK UP!.

drfox · February 4

Weston1283 said:

drfox said:

So quiet on the rumour front….,

I mean, I think we are probably at least 2-3 months away from any rumors

They aren't even hitting the road for 10 weeks or so for the last announced tour

The only other thing we've gotten is a "rumor" for is the Sphere sometime which we know will be at least August at the earliest due to other Sphere shows

So even if there is a small North America leg for the fall or around the Sphere, those rumors probably wont even leak until late spring or early summer

Europe is completely out for 2025 and South America in all likelihood would have been announced by now

Agree looking like just a few American dates (if any) in early Autumn (September I imagine). South American unlikely now. Europe probably in the usual June/July slot in 2026

Shaindli1 · February 4

I don't know where the Sphere guess (?) is coming from. I did not see any specific rumor about it, just a few fans' wishful thinking (and other fans pushing back on it).

Lost In Ohio · February 5

Weston1283 said:

drfox said:

So quiet on the rumour front….,

I mean, I think we are probably at least 2-3 months away from any rumors

They aren't even hitting the road for 10 weeks or so for the last announced tour

The only other thing we've gotten is a "rumor" for is the Sphere sometime which we know will be at least August at the earliest due to other Sphere shows

So even if there is a small North America leg for the fall or around the Sphere, those rumors probably wont even leak until late spring or early summer

Europe is completely out for 2025 and South America in all likelihood would have been announced by now

We know they've begun writing/recording.

If we go 2020, 2024, 2026 with album release dates, that'd be a frequency not seen since Binaural through Avocado with three albums in six years.

Avocado through Lightning Bolt was three albums (plus a lot of PJ20 and side project stuff) in eight years.

The time period from 2018-2023 really fucked the band (and all of us) over. Here's what it MIGHT MAYBE have looked like:
2018: South America, Europe, Album Release...tour USA?
2019: Tour the 2018 album.
2020: Tour the 2018 album.
2021: Break? Writing/recording?
2022: Tour 2021/2022 album?

Instead, we ended up having 26 tour dates (27 planned) from the beginning of South America 2018 up until Sea Hear Now in 2021.

We basically had 6.5 shows per year...or about one every other month from 2018-2022.

BF25394 · February 5

Lost In Ohio said:

Weston1283 said:

drfox said:

So quiet on the rumour front….,

I mean, I think we are probably at least 2-3 months away from any rumors

They aren't even hitting the road for 10 weeks or so for the last announced tour

The only other thing we've gotten is a "rumor" for is the Sphere sometime which we know will be at least August at the earliest due to other Sphere shows

So even if there is a small North America leg for the fall or around the Sphere, those rumors probably wont even leak until late spring or early summer

Europe is completely out for 2025 and South America in all likelihood would have been announced by now

We know they've begun writing/recording.

If we go 2020, 2024, 2026 with album release dates, that'd be a frequency not seen since Binaural through Avocado with three albums in six years.

Avocado through Lightning Bolt was three albums (plus a lot of PJ20 and side project stuff) in eight years.

The time period from 2018-2023 really fucked the band (and all of us) over. Here's what it MIGHT MAYBE have looked like:
2018: South America, Europe, Album Release...tour USA?
2019: Tour the 2018 album.
2020: Tour the 2018 album.
2021: Break? Writing/recording?
2022: Tour 2021/2022 album?

Instead, we ended up having 26 tour dates (27 planned) from the beginning of South America 2018 up until Sea Hear Now in 2021.

We basically had 6.5 shows per year...or about one every other month from 2018-2022.

You remember why there were no shows in 2020 and most of 2021, right?

Lost In Ohio · February 5

BF25394 said:

Lost In Ohio said:

Weston1283 said:

drfox said:

So quiet on the rumour front….,

I mean, I think we are probably at least 2-3 months away from any rumors

They aren't even hitting the road for 10 weeks or so for the last announced tour

The only other thing we've gotten is a "rumor" for is the Sphere sometime which we know will be at least August at the earliest due to other Sphere shows

So even if there is a small North America leg for the fall or around the Sphere, those rumors probably wont even leak until late spring or early summer

Europe is completely out for 2025 and South America in all likelihood would have been announced by now

We know they've begun writing/recording.

If we go 2020, 2024, 2026 with album release dates, that'd be a frequency not seen since Binaural through Avocado with three albums in six years.

Avocado through Lightning Bolt was three albums (plus a lot of PJ20 and side project stuff) in eight years.

The time period from 2018-2023 really fucked the band (and all of us) over. Here's what it MIGHT MAYBE have looked like:
2018: South America, Europe, Album Release...tour USA?
2019: Tour the 2018 album.
2020: Tour the 2018 album.
2021: Break? Writing/recording?
2022: Tour 2021/2022 album?

Instead, we ended up having 26 tour dates (27 planned) from the beginning of South America 2018 up until Sea Hear Now in 2021.

We basically had 6.5 shows per year...or about one every other month from 2018-2022.

You remember why there were no shows in 2020 and most of 2021, right?

Indeed I do.

I'm saying if the 2018 album was released AND COVID never happened, things would have looked a lot different when it came to album releases and touring plans.

Instead, the reset button was pressed HARD on that album. It obviously didn't happen and 2019 was a year off which turned into 2020 and most of 2021 off.

Some time during 2018, they said "fuck it", axed the 2018 album and whatever they had begun to pre-plan for 2019, if they had anything at all other than a "we gotta be out on tour" mindset.

Go back to Eddie's comments at Fenway 2018 about not planning to do much touring over 2019. Gigaton was NOT delayed. It's probably much more fair to think of the 2018 album as something vastly different. Gigaton was probably written/recorded over the end of 2018 and into 2019. Whatever the hell was planned to be released in 2018...there's gotta be a good collection of lost dogs there.

If you take the shows from 2018 and averaged them out over 2019, 2020 and 2021, it basically turned into the equivalent of one show every other month.

(Yeah, I get a little rambling there with that 2018 stuff only because I like to play the "alternate universe" game at times.)

PrezIntense · February 5

The time period from 2018-2023 really fucked the band (and all of us) over.

I think saying this time period fucked the band over is a little dramatic. If they wanted to tour they would've toured (COVID did mess that up in 2020/2021 but had nothing to do with 2018 and 2019). If they wanted to release that album they would have. They made decisions that were best for them considering everything they had in their lives and that's fine. Nobody got fucked over -- you included.

cutz · February 5

Shaindli1 said:

I don't know where the Sphere guess (?) is coming from. I did not see any specific rumor about it, just a few fans' wishful thinking (and other fans pushing back on it).

Facemeltor said:

RS72927 said:

As far as the Sphere goes - no rumors, just information to digest:

1) Ed visited the sphere twice during the U2 residency.

2) At LV1, Ed polled the audience as to how many travelled to the show, and how many were locals. After the crowd responded, he looked toward somebody in the wings off to the side of the stage and said something to the effect of ’See, about 50-50. About half travelled for the show.’ Then he confirmed the band heard him by looking around the stage.

3) Later in the evening of LV1, Ed made a quick comment about being back next year.

4) The big screen behind the stage sure was Sphere-esque, the way they used it.

Pay attention to this guy.

Shaindli1 · February 5

Interesting. I guess I missed that comment.
Tbh, not thrilled about either Vegas or the Sphere.

Shaindli1 · February 5

Also, what would a Sphere residency entail? A few shows, like say five, over two weeks or spaced out more? Like one a week over a month?

drfox · February 5

Lost In Ohio said:

BF25394 said:

Lost In Ohio said:

Weston1283 said:

drfox said:

So quiet on the rumour front….,

I mean, I think we are probably at least 2-3 months away from any rumors

They aren't even hitting the road for 10 weeks or so for the last announced tour

The only other thing we've gotten is a "rumor" for is the Sphere sometime which we know will be at least August at the earliest due to other Sphere shows

So even if there is a small North America leg for the fall or around the Sphere, those rumors probably wont even leak until late spring or early summer

Europe is completely out for 2025 and South America in all likelihood would have been announced by now

We know they've begun writing/recording.

If we go 2020, 2024, 2026 with album release dates, that'd be a frequency not seen since Binaural through Avocado with three albums in six years.

Avocado through Lightning Bolt was three albums (plus a lot of PJ20 and side project stuff) in eight years.

The time period from 2018-2023 really fucked the band (and all of us) over. Here's what it MIGHT MAYBE have looked like:
2018: South America, Europe, Album Release...tour USA?
2019: Tour the 2018 album.
2020: Tour the 2018 album.
2021: Break? Writing/recording?
2022: Tour 2021/2022 album?

Instead, we ended up having 26 tour dates (27 planned) from the beginning of South America 2018 up until Sea Hear Now in 2021.

We basically had 6.5 shows per year...or about one every other month from 2018-2022.

You remember why there were no shows in 2020 and most of 2021, right?

Indeed I do.

I'm saying if the 2018 album was released AND COVID never happened, things would have looked a lot different when it came to album releases and touring plans.

Instead, the reset button was pressed HARD on that album. It obviously didn't happen and 2019 was a year off which turned into 2020 and most of 2021 off.

Some time during 2018, they said "fuck it", axed the 2018 album and whatever they had begun to pre-plan for 2019, if they had anything at all other than a "we gotta be out on tour" mindset.

Go back to Eddie's comments at Fenway 2018 about not planning to do much touring over 2019. Gigaton was NOT delayed. It's probably much more fair to think of the 2018 album as something vastly different. Gigaton was probably written/recorded over the end of 2018 and into 2019. Whatever the hell was planned to be released in 2018...there's gotta be a good collection of lost dogs there.

If you take the shows from 2018 and averaged them out over 2019, 2020 and 2021, it basically turned into the equivalent of one show every other month.

(Yeah, I get a little rambling there with that 2018 stuff only because I like to play the "alternate universe" game at times.)

I don’t think the 2018 album was scrapped? Only some songs like Can’t Deny me? Understand some of the songs recorded in 2017-18 were used for Gigaton

DM282158 · February 5

drfox said:

Lost In Ohio said:

BF25394 said:

Lost In Ohio said:

Weston1283 said:

drfox said:

So quiet on the rumour front….,

I mean, I think we are probably at least 2-3 months away from any rumors

They aren't even hitting the road for 10 weeks or so for the last announced tour

The only other thing we've gotten is a "rumor" for is the Sphere sometime which we know will be at least August at the earliest due to other Sphere shows

So even if there is a small North America leg for the fall or around the Sphere, those rumors probably wont even leak until late spring or early summer

Europe is completely out for 2025 and South America in all likelihood would have been announced by now

We know they've begun writing/recording.

If we go 2020, 2024, 2026 with album release dates, that'd be a frequency not seen since Binaural through Avocado with three albums in six years.

Avocado through Lightning Bolt was three albums (plus a lot of PJ20 and side project stuff) in eight years.

The time period from 2018-2023 really fucked the band (and all of us) over. Here's what it MIGHT MAYBE have looked like:
2018: South America, Europe, Album Release...tour USA?
2019: Tour the 2018 album.
2020: Tour the 2018 album.
2021: Break? Writing/recording?
2022: Tour 2021/2022 album?

Instead, we ended up having 26 tour dates (27 planned) from the beginning of South America 2018 up until Sea Hear Now in 2021.

We basically had 6.5 shows per year...or about one every other month from 2018-2022.

You remember why there were no shows in 2020 and most of 2021, right?

Indeed I do.

I'm saying if the 2018 album was released AND COVID never happened, things would have looked a lot different when it came to album releases and touring plans.

Instead, the reset button was pressed HARD on that album. It obviously didn't happen and 2019 was a year off which turned into 2020 and most of 2021 off.

Some time during 2018, they said "fuck it", axed the 2018 album and whatever they had begun to pre-plan for 2019, if they had anything at all other than a "we gotta be out on tour" mindset.

Go back to Eddie's comments at Fenway 2018 about not planning to do much touring over 2019. Gigaton was NOT delayed. It's probably much more fair to think of the 2018 album as something vastly different. Gigaton was probably written/recorded over the end of 2018 and into 2019. Whatever the hell was planned to be released in 2018...there's gotta be a good collection of lost dogs there.

If you take the shows from 2018 and averaged them out over 2019, 2020 and 2021, it basically turned into the equivalent of one show every other month.

(Yeah, I get a little rambling there with that 2018 stuff only because I like to play the "alternate universe" game at times.)

I don’t think the 2018 album was scrapped? Only some songs like Can’t Deny me? Understand some of the songs recorded in 2017-18 were used for Gigaton

I believe he’s referring to, when Can’t Deny Me was released it was advertised as “from the forthcoming album produced by Brendan O’Brien”. Different from Gigaton.

The main thing I’ll always be curious about as to why it was scrapped, seemingly so late in the game. And subsequently, how many finished tracks we’ve yet to hear from it.

Merkin Baller · February 5

Shaindli1 said:

Also, what would a Sphere residency entail? A few shows, like say five, over two weeks or spaced out more? Like one a week over a month?

IIRC, the rumor was a short residency in either Seattle or Vegas, & people assumed the Sphere if Vegas.

In fairness though, Toronto was also supposed to happen, so who knows?

Shaindli1 · February 5

I do not like the Sphere rumor one bit and hope it doesn't happen. I'd rather have the short legs they're doing now. At least this way they get to more places and I get to discover new cities. Also the Sphere is gimmicky AF and out of character.

Indifference · February 5

The sphere is awesome. Hope it happens.

Zod · February 5

The Sphere is amazing. The visual are amazing and one thing, but it's also the best audio I've ever heard at a live venue. Rather then using sports complexes and trying to convert them to music venues, this thing is built for music. Pearl Jam would sound amazing in there.

I do wonder about the economics. If you want to do visuals it probably costs significant cash to create them for that one of a kind screen. You probably need to play a solid amount of shows to make the revenue to cover that? Not sure if 5 covers something like that.

pjl44 · February 5

Yeah, I'm eager to check out a Sphere show and would definitely jump on Pearl Jam

Weston1283 · February 5

If the Sphere was the only other thing we got in 2025, I would be thrilled

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