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So... They come, can't legally work here. Get housed for free, food voucher. So we essentially kickstart our own economy by subsidizing them?Gern Blansten said:
So...they go back home to no job since that is why they left in the first place. Because they have no job they have no money.tempo_n_groove said:
It should create "growth" though. You have an influx of people they all need to eat, live etc. They would be working and buying things, it should create it's own impact on an economy.Gern Blansten said:
The tale of two completely different economies.tempo_n_groove said:
I hear that immigration creates growth. Literally that is what I hear. Good for the economy. So, why wouldn't that work down in Mexico? They could start their own new "growth".Gern Blansten said:
no...we have capacity for these jobs. Mexico does not...that's why they are heretempo_n_groove said:
This is for illegal people being here and was focused on what the Woman for Mexico Matter s said.Merkin Baller said:
They're also spending money to live here, on rent, groceries, life in general... that's a f ton of money going into our economy that is also going to disappear with them.Bentleyspop said:
Many undocumented immigrants use fake/forged papers including stolen SS numbers. Therefore their employers are deducting all the income taxes, ss, medicaid, etc that they almost never claim.tempo_n_groove said:
What money is going into taxes if theyre here illegally? They aren't paying income tax, only sales tax.Bentleyspop said:
There will also be a profound effect in the U.S.tempo_n_groove said:This is the Immigration thread right?
Listening to NPR last night and on On Point there was a woman for a radio show called Radio Now by the name of Marianna Comparo talked about the possible deportations coming.
Go to 44:17 "What a second Trump term means" https://www.wnyc.org/shows/on-point
They talk about if Mexico were to receive 7 million people sent back to them and the profound affect it would have on the country and its economy. They also talk about the 64 Billion that the workers here send back to Mexico to help their families at home.
If it's reason enough to say it's a possible problem for Mexico then why isn't it an ongoing problem for the US? I was dumbfounded to hear her say this yet there are people here in the US that insist it's not a problem.
Of course there will be the lack of workers.
But then the lack of spending by these people in the U.S.in local stores and restaurants
Then there is all of the money not going into medicaid, Social Security, local and state taxes etc.
If it happens it will be ugly for Mexico as well as many other countries and, of course, here in the good old U.S. of A.
Again, it is ok for the US to take on this burden but Mexico can't?
These $$ go into the same pot that yours and mine go into.
There are literally millions of people, undocumented and documented, who use fake/forged papers and stolen SS #s to get jobs.
Fast track to citizenship (for those whose only crime is being undocumented) SHOULD be the goal here, not deportation, but that wouldn't satisfy the *ahem* sentiment that's been stoked these last 10 years.
My thinking was if it's ok for us and it gets our economy going then why wouldn't it jumpstart theirs? Just seems logical then... There would be more influx of people so more jobs would be created, no?
What am I missing?
That does not grow an economy. That's why they left.
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we're talking about two different things....I was stuck on the illegals that are working here using stolen SSNs, etc. The ones that come here and send money back to MX so that they can get some financial stability before they return.tempo_n_groove said:
So... They come, can't legally work here. Get housed for free, food voucher. So we essentially kickstart our own economy by subsidizing them?Gern Blansten said:
So...they go back home to no job since that is why they left in the first place. Because they have no job they have no money.tempo_n_groove said:
It should create "growth" though. You have an influx of people they all need to eat, live etc. They would be working and buying things, it should create it's own impact on an economy.Gern Blansten said:
The tale of two completely different economies.tempo_n_groove said:
I hear that immigration creates growth. Literally that is what I hear. Good for the economy. So, why wouldn't that work down in Mexico? They could start their own new "growth".Gern Blansten said:
no...we have capacity for these jobs. Mexico does not...that's why they are heretempo_n_groove said:
This is for illegal people being here and was focused on what the Woman for Mexico Matter s said.Merkin Baller said:
They're also spending money to live here, on rent, groceries, life in general... that's a f ton of money going into our economy that is also going to disappear with them.Bentleyspop said:
Many undocumented immigrants use fake/forged papers including stolen SS numbers. Therefore their employers are deducting all the income taxes, ss, medicaid, etc that they almost never claim.tempo_n_groove said:
What money is going into taxes if theyre here illegally? They aren't paying income tax, only sales tax.Bentleyspop said:
There will also be a profound effect in the U.S.tempo_n_groove said:This is the Immigration thread right?
Listening to NPR last night and on On Point there was a woman for a radio show called Radio Now by the name of Marianna Comparo talked about the possible deportations coming.
Go to 44:17 "What a second Trump term means" https://www.wnyc.org/shows/on-point
They talk about if Mexico were to receive 7 million people sent back to them and the profound affect it would have on the country and its economy. They also talk about the 64 Billion that the workers here send back to Mexico to help their families at home.
If it's reason enough to say it's a possible problem for Mexico then why isn't it an ongoing problem for the US? I was dumbfounded to hear her say this yet there are people here in the US that insist it's not a problem.
Of course there will be the lack of workers.
But then the lack of spending by these people in the U.S.in local stores and restaurants
Then there is all of the money not going into medicaid, Social Security, local and state taxes etc.
If it happens it will be ugly for Mexico as well as many other countries and, of course, here in the good old U.S. of A.
Again, it is ok for the US to take on this burden but Mexico can't?
These $$ go into the same pot that yours and mine go into.
There are literally millions of people, undocumented and documented, who use fake/forged papers and stolen SS #s to get jobs.
Fast track to citizenship (for those whose only crime is being undocumented) SHOULD be the goal here, not deportation, but that wouldn't satisfy the *ahem* sentiment that's been stoked these last 10 years.
My thinking was if it's ok for us and it gets our economy going then why wouldn't it jumpstart theirs? Just seems logical then... There would be more influx of people so more jobs would be created, no?
What am I missing?
That does not grow an economy. That's why they left.
I'm asking dickhead questions because it doesn't make sense...
The situation you are describing seems to be people that are desperate to leave their home country because there is truly nothing there for them.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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Different situations.Gern Blansten said:
we're talking about two different things....I was stuck on the illegals that are working here using stolen SSNs, etc. The ones that come here and send money back to MX so that they can get some financial stability before they return.tempo_n_groove said:
So... They come, can't legally work here. Get housed for free, food voucher. So we essentially kickstart our own economy by subsidizing them?Gern Blansten said:
So...they go back home to no job since that is why they left in the first place. Because they have no job they have no money.tempo_n_groove said:
It should create "growth" though. You have an influx of people they all need to eat, live etc. They would be working and buying things, it should create it's own impact on an economy.Gern Blansten said:
The tale of two completely different economies.tempo_n_groove said:
I hear that immigration creates growth. Literally that is what I hear. Good for the economy. So, why wouldn't that work down in Mexico? They could start their own new "growth".Gern Blansten said:
no...we have capacity for these jobs. Mexico does not...that's why they are heretempo_n_groove said:
This is for illegal people being here and was focused on what the Woman for Mexico Matter s said.Merkin Baller said:
They're also spending money to live here, on rent, groceries, life in general... that's a f ton of money going into our economy that is also going to disappear with them.Bentleyspop said:
Many undocumented immigrants use fake/forged papers including stolen SS numbers. Therefore their employers are deducting all the income taxes, ss, medicaid, etc that they almost never claim.tempo_n_groove said:
What money is going into taxes if theyre here illegally? They aren't paying income tax, only sales tax.Bentleyspop said:
There will also be a profound effect in the U.S.tempo_n_groove said:This is the Immigration thread right?
Listening to NPR last night and on On Point there was a woman for a radio show called Radio Now by the name of Marianna Comparo talked about the possible deportations coming.
Go to 44:17 "What a second Trump term means" https://www.wnyc.org/shows/on-point
They talk about if Mexico were to receive 7 million people sent back to them and the profound affect it would have on the country and its economy. They also talk about the 64 Billion that the workers here send back to Mexico to help their families at home.
If it's reason enough to say it's a possible problem for Mexico then why isn't it an ongoing problem for the US? I was dumbfounded to hear her say this yet there are people here in the US that insist it's not a problem.
Of course there will be the lack of workers.
But then the lack of spending by these people in the U.S.in local stores and restaurants
Then there is all of the money not going into medicaid, Social Security, local and state taxes etc.
If it happens it will be ugly for Mexico as well as many other countries and, of course, here in the good old U.S. of A.
Again, it is ok for the US to take on this burden but Mexico can't?
These $$ go into the same pot that yours and mine go into.
There are literally millions of people, undocumented and documented, who use fake/forged papers and stolen SS #s to get jobs.
Fast track to citizenship (for those whose only crime is being undocumented) SHOULD be the goal here, not deportation, but that wouldn't satisfy the *ahem* sentiment that's been stoked these last 10 years.
My thinking was if it's ok for us and it gets our economy going then why wouldn't it jumpstart theirs? Just seems logical then... There would be more influx of people so more jobs would be created, no?
What am I missing?
That does not grow an economy. That's why they left.
I'm asking dickhead questions because it doesn't make sense...
The situation you are describing seems to be people that are desperate to leave their home country because there is truly nothing there for them.
You have people who are coming across the border illegally, as in “sneaking in” undetected. These people are on their own once they get here, no monetary assistance from the government.Then you have asylum seekers. Those are the people you see on news at places like Eagle Pass, TX. They surrender to the border patrol then are placed into the asylum process. These people generally receive monetary assistance for settlement until their asylum case is processed.0 -
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That’s some funny stuff….I am sure heads are exploding after watching it. I look forward to the Adults in the room to be all serious and Educate us on how Trump is going to destroy essentially everything!!!!Choccoloccotide said:Mexican Prez Claudia Sheinbaum bends the knee to the goat 🤣🤣https://x.com/TheRubberDuck79/status/1861487934836236349
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It’s so fun watching rotten brains like that dip shit AOC and Che-Chewy get schooled by the soon to be border Czar. I can’t wait for this true American to take over.
https://youtu.be/rlv2RpeWgnM
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I love Tom Homan b/c he doesn’t give af about the communists’ feelings.lindamarie73 said:It’s so fun watching rotten brains like that dip shit AOC and Che-Chewy get schooled by the soon to be border Czar. I can’t wait for this true American to take over.
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Leftists have no sense of humor or as they like to call it JOY!lindamarie73 said:
That’s some funny stuff….I am sure heads are exploding after watching it. I look forward to the Adults in the room to be all serious and Educate us on how Trump is going to destroy essentially everything!!!!Choccoloccotide said:Mexican Prez Claudia Sheinbaum bends the knee to the goat 🤣🤣https://x.com/TheRubberDuck79/status/18614879348362363490 -
It’s super lazy to call people that vote differently than you communist…all the while bitching about them calling you nazis.Choccoloccotide said:
I love Tom Homan b/c he doesn’t give af about the communists’ feelings.lindamarie73 said:It’s so fun watching rotten brains like that dip shit AOC and Che-Chewy get schooled by the soon to be border Czar. I can’t wait for this true American to take over.
https://youtu.be/rlv2RpeWgnM
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"Communist" is just the dogwhistle of the moment parroted by the sycophants.cincybearcat said:
It’s super lazy to call people that vote differently than you communist…all the while bitching about them calling you nazis.Choccoloccotide said:
I love Tom Homan b/c he doesn’t give af about the communists’ feelings.lindamarie73 said:It’s so fun watching rotten brains like that dip shit AOC and Che-Chewy get schooled by the soon to be border Czar. I can’t wait for this true American to take over.
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if we're not as happy it's cuz we care about others. and we're smarter.Choccoloccotide said:
Leftists have no sense of humor or as they like to call it JOY!lindamarie73 said:
That’s some funny stuff….I am sure heads are exploding after watching it. I look forward to the Adults in the room to be all serious and Educate us on how Trump is going to destroy essentially everything!!!!Choccoloccotide said:Mexican Prez Claudia Sheinbaum bends the knee to the goat 🤣🤣https://x.com/TheRubberDuck79/status/1861487934836236349
https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201003/why-liberals-are-more-intelligent-conservativesPost edited by HughFreakingDillon onHugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
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When you’re brought up to believe in white authority/supremacy you’re absolutely going to be closed off to all the world has to offer. Limited openness equals limited intelligence and perspective.HughFreakingDillon said:
if we're not as happy it's cuz we care about others. and we're smarter.Choccoloccotide said:
Leftists have no sense of humor or as they like to call it JOY!lindamarie73 said:
That’s some funny stuff….I am sure heads are exploding after watching it. I look forward to the Adults in the room to be all serious and Educate us on how Trump is going to destroy essentially everything!!!!Choccoloccotide said:Mexican Prez Claudia Sheinbaum bends the knee to the goat 🤣🤣https://x.com/TheRubberDuck79/status/1861487934836236349
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When you’re brought up to believe in white authority/supremacy you’re absolutely going to be closed off to all the world has to offer. Limited openness equals limited intelligence and perspective.HughFreakingDillon said:
if we're not as happy it's cuz we care about others. and we're smarter.Choccoloccotide said:
Leftists have no sense of humor or as they like to call it JOY!lindamarie73 said:
That’s some funny stuff….I am sure heads are exploding after watching it. I look forward to the Adults in the room to be all serious and Educate us on how Trump is going to destroy essentially everything!!!!Choccoloccotide said:Mexican Prez Claudia Sheinbaum bends the knee to the goat 🤣🤣https://x.com/TheRubberDuck79/status/1861487934836236349
https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201003/why-liberals-are-more-intelligent-conservatives
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When you’re brought up to believe in white authority/supremacy you’re absolutely going to be closed off to all the world has to offer. Limited openness equals limited intelligence and perspective.HughFreakingDillon said:
if we're not as happy it's cuz we care about others. and we're smarter.Choccoloccotide said:
Leftists have no sense of humor or as they like to call it JOY!lindamarie73 said:
That’s some funny stuff….I am sure heads are exploding after watching it. I look forward to the Adults in the room to be all serious and Educate us on how Trump is going to destroy essentially everything!!!!Choccoloccotide said:Mexican Prez Claudia Sheinbaum bends the knee to the goat 🤣🤣https://x.com/TheRubberDuck79/status/1861487934836236349
https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201003/why-liberals-are-more-intelligent-conservatives0
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