Immigration

OnWis97

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Choccoloccotide said:

Let’s try something new.  You guys make a list of all the things you are afraid that Trump will do and post here or start a new thread.  Then let’s revisit your lists every 6 months to see if your fears actually come to fruition.  I believe the results may be eye opening.  This isn’t a gotcha moment either, but just an honest exercise.  

Here is a list. Get back to me in 6 months:

1) The US will disregard and work against climate change. Instead of as the biggest superpower in the world be pro active on that front.

2) The US will take actions that work in favour of Putin. Instead of as the biggest superpower be pro active in pushing back

3) The US will actively make/keep it harder for women their right to their own bodys

4) No steps will be taken to have normal fucking healthcare like any non-garbage country in the world have

5) The US will not stand against Netanyahu and the slaughter that is happening in Palestine - with right now 70% of the killed being women and children. This by US made and sold weapons

6) Pearl Jam will not play Sweden

 

1. I don't think anyone's trying to hide this.
2. Obviously
3. Probably
4. True but that's the case regardless. Not only MAGA but mainstream Dems and GOP don't want any part of this.
5. True but that would have also been the case regardless.
6. Hell, they might move to Sweden, now. Residency at the Stockholm Theater. 
7. The firing of at least a million federal employees will lead to the firing of at least another million people (some even at private companies). 
   
8. These firings will result in no tax cuts or save government money as all of it goes to Elon.
9. The return of the vilification of all media that doesn't kiss his feet. Perhaps even an organized shutting down of most of 'em.
10. Blue states will see reductions in federal funds, which will be diverted to red states.
11. Minnesota, which voted for Harris and is governed by a running mate that called Elon a dipshit, has a gubernatorial election in 2026. I predict the Administration, probably Elon, sends their voters the message that if Walz/Dem wins, the state will be punished in the form of federal (for example, highway) funds reductions. Flag this one...it might seem a bit out there. Let's see whether I'm right.
12. The richest 1% get richer.
13. The working class for which they "fight" get poorer.

OnWis97

Not to mention that the courts will spend the next several decades as a "party first" body.

tempo_n_groove

This is the Immigration thread right?

Listening to NPR last night and on On Point there was a woman for a radio show called Radio Now by the name of Marianna Comparo talked about the possible deportations coming.

Go to 44:17 "What a second Trump term means" https://www.wnyc.org/shows/on-point

They talk about if Mexico were to receive 7 million people sent back to them and the profound affect it would have on the country and its economy.  They also talk about the 64 Billion that the workers here send back to Mexico to help their families at home.

If it's reason enough to say it's a possible problem for Mexico then why isn't it an ongoing problem for the US?  I was dumbfounded to hear her say this yet there are people here in the US that insist it's not a problem.

Gern Blansten

tempo_n_groove said:

This is the Immigration thread right?

Listening to NPR last night and on On Point there was a woman for a radio show called Radio Now by the name of Marianna Comparo talked about the possible deportations coming.

Go to 44:17 "What a second Trump term means" https://www.wnyc.org/shows/on-point

They talk about if Mexico were to receive 7 million people sent back to them and the profound affect it would have on the country and its economy.  They also talk about the 64 Billion that the workers here send back to Mexico to help their families at home.

If it's reason enough to say it's a possible problem for Mexico then why isn't it an ongoing problem for the US?  I was dumbfounded to hear her say this yet there are people here in the US that insist it's not a problem.

Doesn't the problem relate to there not being enough good paying jobs in Mexico? These people come to the US, make good money, and send it back to family in MX. Now they won't be able to do that. If they come back they could be unemployed or not make enough to support their household expenses.

The problem to the US will be all of the holes left by these workers that US companies can't replace. But MAGA!

Bentleyspop

tempo_n_groove said:

This is the Immigration thread right?

Listening to NPR last night and on On Point there was a woman for a radio show called Radio Now by the name of Marianna Comparo talked about the possible deportations coming.

Go to 44:17 "What a second Trump term means" https://www.wnyc.org/shows/on-point

They talk about if Mexico were to receive 7 million people sent back to them and the profound affect it would have on the country and its economy.  They also talk about the 64 Billion that the workers here send back to Mexico to help their families at home.

If it's reason enough to say it's a possible problem for Mexico then why isn't it an ongoing problem for the US?  I was dumbfounded to hear her say this yet there are people here in the US that insist it's not a problem.

There will also be a profound effect in the U.S.
Of course there will be the lack of workers.
But then the lack of spending by these people in the U.S.in local stores and restaurants 
Then there is all of the money not going into medicaid, Social Security,  local and state taxes etc.
If it happens it will be ugly for Mexico as well as many other countries and, of course, here in the good old U.S. of A.

tempo_n_groove

Bentleyspop said:

tempo_n_groove said:

This is the Immigration thread right?

Listening to NPR last night and on On Point there was a woman for a radio show called Radio Now by the name of Marianna Comparo talked about the possible deportations coming.

Go to 44:17 "What a second Trump term means" https://www.wnyc.org/shows/on-point

They talk about if Mexico were to receive 7 million people sent back to them and the profound affect it would have on the country and its economy.  They also talk about the 64 Billion that the workers here send back to Mexico to help their families at home.

If it's reason enough to say it's a possible problem for Mexico then why isn't it an ongoing problem for the US?  I was dumbfounded to hear her say this yet there are people here in the US that insist it's not a problem.

There will also be a profound effect in the U.S.
Of course there will be the lack of workers.
But then the lack of spending by these people in the U.S.in local stores and restaurants 
Then there is all of the money not going into medicaid, Social Security,  local and state taxes etc.
If it happens it will be ugly for Mexico as well as many other countries and, of course, here in the good old U.S. of A.

What money is going into taxes if theyre here illegally?  They aren't paying income tax, only sales tax.

Again, it is ok for the US to take on this burden but Mexico can't?

tempo_n_groove

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

This is the Immigration thread right?

Listening to NPR last night and on On Point there was a woman for a radio show called Radio Now by the name of Marianna Comparo talked about the possible deportations coming.

Go to 44:17 "What a second Trump term means" https://www.wnyc.org/shows/on-point

They talk about if Mexico were to receive 7 million people sent back to them and the profound affect it would have on the country and its economy.  They also talk about the 64 Billion that the workers here send back to Mexico to help their families at home.

If it's reason enough to say it's a possible problem for Mexico then why isn't it an ongoing problem for the US?  I was dumbfounded to hear her say this yet there are people here in the US that insist it's not a problem.

Doesn't the problem relate to there not being enough good paying jobs in Mexico? These people come to the US, make good money, and send it back to family in MX. Now they won't be able to do that. If they come back they could be unemployed or not make enough to support their household expenses.

The problem to the US will be all of the holes left by these workers that US companies can't replace. But MAGA!

Holes by what workers?  All i hear is the jobs that we americans don't want to do.  What are those jobs?

Merkin Baller

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

This is the Immigration thread right?

Listening to NPR last night and on On Point there was a woman for a radio show called Radio Now by the name of Marianna Comparo talked about the possible deportations coming.

Go to 44:17 "What a second Trump term means" https://www.wnyc.org/shows/on-point

They talk about if Mexico were to receive 7 million people sent back to them and the profound affect it would have on the country and its economy.  They also talk about the 64 Billion that the workers here send back to Mexico to help their families at home.

If it's reason enough to say it's a possible problem for Mexico then why isn't it an ongoing problem for the US?  I was dumbfounded to hear her say this yet there are people here in the US that insist it's not a problem.

Doesn't the problem relate to there not being enough good paying jobs in Mexico? These people come to the US, make good money, and send it back to family in MX. Now they won't be able to do that. If they come back they could be unemployed or not make enough to support their household expenses.

The problem to the US will be all of the holes left by these workers that US companies can't replace. But MAGA!

Holes by what workers?  All i hear is the jobs that we americans don't want to do.  What are those jobs?

Well, for starters: construction laborers, maids and housekeepers, cooks, home health aides, and janitors and building cleaners. 

I think our president elect referred to them as 'black jobs'. That wouldn't be the term I would use, but he sure did. 

josevolution

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

This is the Immigration thread right?

Listening to NPR last night and on On Point there was a woman for a radio show called Radio Now by the name of Marianna Comparo talked about the possible deportations coming.

Go to 44:17 "What a second Trump term means" https://www.wnyc.org/shows/on-point

They talk about if Mexico were to receive 7 million people sent back to them and the profound affect it would have on the country and its economy.  They also talk about the 64 Billion that the workers here send back to Mexico to help their families at home.

If it's reason enough to say it's a possible problem for Mexico then why isn't it an ongoing problem for the US?  I was dumbfounded to hear her say this yet there are people here in the US that insist it's not a problem.

Doesn't the problem relate to there not being enough good paying jobs in Mexico? These people come to the US, make good money, and send it back to family in MX. Now they won't be able to do that. If they come back they could be unemployed or not make enough to support their household expenses.

The problem to the US will be all of the holes left by these workers that US companies can't replace. But MAGA!

Holes by what workers?  All i hear is the jobs that we americans don't want to do.  What are those jobs?

Well, for starters: construction laborers, maids and housekeepers, cooks, home health aides, and janitors and building cleaners. 

I think our president elect referred to them as 'black jobs'. That wouldn't be the term I would use, but he sure did. 

Yep all those jobs Americans just don’t do anymore, it’s easy to see what jobs just look around! Look at those roofs, those manicured yards, the trees that are getting taken down etc etc etc hell look at the local car wash 

mace1229

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

This is the Immigration thread right?

Listening to NPR last night and on On Point there was a woman for a radio show called Radio Now by the name of Marianna Comparo talked about the possible deportations coming.

Go to 44:17 "What a second Trump term means" https://www.wnyc.org/shows/on-point

They talk about if Mexico were to receive 7 million people sent back to them and the profound affect it would have on the country and its economy.  They also talk about the 64 Billion that the workers here send back to Mexico to help their families at home.

If it's reason enough to say it's a possible problem for Mexico then why isn't it an ongoing problem for the US?  I was dumbfounded to hear her say this yet there are people here in the US that insist it's not a problem.

Doesn't the problem relate to there not being enough good paying jobs in Mexico? These people come to the US, make good money, and send it back to family in MX. Now they won't be able to do that. If they come back they could be unemployed or not make enough to support their household expenses.

The problem to the US will be all of the holes left by these workers that US companies can't replace. But MAGA!

Holes by what workers?  All i hear is the jobs that we americans don't want to do.  What are those jobs?

Well, for starters: construction laborers, maids and housekeepers, cooks, home health aides, and janitors and building cleaners. 

I think our president elect referred to them as 'black jobs'. That wouldn't be the term I would use, but he sure did. 

You didn't mention the only one that actually comes to mind for me. Agriculture.
All the ones you mentioned I see plenty of white people doing, depending on where you live.
I've seen plenty of house cleaners, construction workers, etc of all nationalities. One of the differences when it is majority-minority or not is it's large business that hires out the labor vs a smaller company doing it themselves.
The only exception I regularly see is agriculture. I've never see dozens of white folks lined up to pick strawberries in a field. 

josevolution

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

This is the Immigration thread right?

Listening to NPR last night and on On Point there was a woman for a radio show called Radio Now by the name of Marianna Comparo talked about the possible deportations coming.

Go to 44:17 "What a second Trump term means" https://www.wnyc.org/shows/on-point

They talk about if Mexico were to receive 7 million people sent back to them and the profound affect it would have on the country and its economy.  They also talk about the 64 Billion that the workers here send back to Mexico to help their families at home.

If it's reason enough to say it's a possible problem for Mexico then why isn't it an ongoing problem for the US?  I was dumbfounded to hear her say this yet there are people here in the US that insist it's not a problem.

Doesn't the problem relate to there not being enough good paying jobs in Mexico? These people come to the US, make good money, and send it back to family in MX. Now they won't be able to do that. If they come back they could be unemployed or not make enough to support their household expenses.

The problem to the US will be all of the holes left by these workers that US companies can't replace. But MAGA!

Holes by what workers?  All i hear is the jobs that we americans don't want to do.  What are those jobs?

Well, for starters: construction laborers, maids and housekeepers, cooks, home health aides, and janitors and building cleaners. 

I think our president elect referred to them as 'black jobs'. That wouldn't be the term I would use, but he sure did. 

You didn't mention the only one that actually comes to mind for me. Agriculture.
All the ones you mentioned I see plenty of white people doing, depending on where you live.
I've seen plenty of house cleaners, construction workers, etc of all nationalities. One of the differences when it is majority-minority or not is it's large business that hires out the labor vs a smaller company doing it themselves.
The only exception I regularly see is agriculture. I've never see dozens of white folks lined up to pick strawberries in a field. 

So where do you live here in NY all the jobs mentioned are done by immigrants! 

jerparker20

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

This is the Immigration thread right?

Listening to NPR last night and on On Point there was a woman for a radio show called Radio Now by the name of Marianna Comparo talked about the possible deportations coming.

Go to 44:17 "What a second Trump term means" https://www.wnyc.org/shows/on-point

They talk about if Mexico were to receive 7 million people sent back to them and the profound affect it would have on the country and its economy.  They also talk about the 64 Billion that the workers here send back to Mexico to help their families at home.

If it's reason enough to say it's a possible problem for Mexico then why isn't it an ongoing problem for the US?  I was dumbfounded to hear her say this yet there are people here in the US that insist it's not a problem.

Doesn't the problem relate to there not being enough good paying jobs in Mexico? These people come to the US, make good money, and send it back to family in MX. Now they won't be able to do that. If they come back they could be unemployed or not make enough to support their household expenses.

The problem to the US will be all of the holes left by these workers that US companies can't replace. But MAGA!

Holes by what workers?  All i hear is the jobs that we americans don't want to do.  What are those jobs?

Agricultural workers, those who pick fruits and vegetables and work the fields.

The meat processing and packaging workers.

Industrial laundry workers.

Behind the scenes staff like bar-backs, dishwashers and line cooks in the restaurant and hospitality industries. 

Think of the jobs most Americans would consider a “shit job.” Those are the jobs they fill. Also, there are not enough Americans in America to fill these jobs.

Its amazed me how the politicians have screamed and hollered about the illegals till their blue in the face, but NEVER once do you hear them call out the businesses and employers who actively employ them.

Gern Blansten

tempo_n_groove said:

Bentleyspop said:

tempo_n_groove said:

This is the Immigration thread right?

Listening to NPR last night and on On Point there was a woman for a radio show called Radio Now by the name of Marianna Comparo talked about the possible deportations coming.

Go to 44:17 "What a second Trump term means" https://www.wnyc.org/shows/on-point

They talk about if Mexico were to receive 7 million people sent back to them and the profound affect it would have on the country and its economy.  They also talk about the 64 Billion that the workers here send back to Mexico to help their families at home.

If it's reason enough to say it's a possible problem for Mexico then why isn't it an ongoing problem for the US?  I was dumbfounded to hear her say this yet there are people here in the US that insist it's not a problem.

There will also be a profound effect in the U.S.
Of course there will be the lack of workers.
But then the lack of spending by these people in the U.S.in local stores and restaurants 
Then there is all of the money not going into medicaid, Social Security,  local and state taxes etc.
If it happens it will be ugly for Mexico as well as many other countries and, of course, here in the good old U.S. of A.

What money is going into taxes if theyre here illegally?  They aren't paying income tax, only sales tax.

Again, it is ok for the US to take on this burden but Mexico can't?

They are absolutely paying social security/medicare and income tax. 

tempo_n_groove

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

This is the Immigration thread right?

Listening to NPR last night and on On Point there was a woman for a radio show called Radio Now by the name of Marianna Comparo talked about the possible deportations coming.

Go to 44:17 "What a second Trump term means" https://www.wnyc.org/shows/on-point

They talk about if Mexico were to receive 7 million people sent back to them and the profound affect it would have on the country and its economy.  They also talk about the 64 Billion that the workers here send back to Mexico to help their families at home.

If it's reason enough to say it's a possible problem for Mexico then why isn't it an ongoing problem for the US?  I was dumbfounded to hear her say this yet there are people here in the US that insist it's not a problem.

Doesn't the problem relate to there not being enough good paying jobs in Mexico? These people come to the US, make good money, and send it back to family in MX. Now they won't be able to do that. If they come back they could be unemployed or not make enough to support their household expenses.

The problem to the US will be all of the holes left by these workers that US companies can't replace. But MAGA!

Holes by what workers?  All i hear is the jobs that we americans don't want to do.  What are those jobs?

Well, for starters: construction laborers, maids and housekeepers, cooks, home health aides, and janitors and building cleaners. 

I think our president elect referred to them as 'black jobs'. That wouldn't be the term I would use, but he sure did. 

josevolution said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

This is the Immigration thread right?

Listening to NPR last night and on On Point there was a woman for a radio show called Radio Now by the name of Marianna Comparo talked about the possible deportations coming.

Go to 44:17 "What a second Trump term means" https://www.wnyc.org/shows/on-point

They talk about if Mexico were to receive 7 million people sent back to them and the profound affect it would have on the country and its economy.  They also talk about the 64 Billion that the workers here send back to Mexico to help their families at home.

If it's reason enough to say it's a possible problem for Mexico then why isn't it an ongoing problem for the US?  I was dumbfounded to hear her say this yet there are people here in the US that insist it's not a problem.

Doesn't the problem relate to there not being enough good paying jobs in Mexico? These people come to the US, make good money, and send it back to family in MX. Now they won't be able to do that. If they come back they could be unemployed or not make enough to support their household expenses.

The problem to the US will be all of the holes left by these workers that US companies can't replace. But MAGA!

Holes by what workers?  All i hear is the jobs that we americans don't want to do.  What are those jobs?

Well, for starters: construction laborers, maids and housekeepers, cooks, home health aides, and janitors and building cleaners. 

I think our president elect referred to them as 'black jobs'. That wouldn't be the term I would use, but he sure did. 

Yep all those jobs Americans just don’t do anymore, it’s easy to see what jobs just look around! Look at those roofs, those manicured yards, the trees that are getting taken down etc etc etc hell look at the local car wash 

I live in NY like Jose so he should know that quite a few of those pay really well and yes, people still want to do them.

Gern Blansten

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

This is the Immigration thread right?

Listening to NPR last night and on On Point there was a woman for a radio show called Radio Now by the name of Marianna Comparo talked about the possible deportations coming.

Go to 44:17 "What a second Trump term means" https://www.wnyc.org/shows/on-point

They talk about if Mexico were to receive 7 million people sent back to them and the profound affect it would have on the country and its economy.  They also talk about the 64 Billion that the workers here send back to Mexico to help their families at home.

If it's reason enough to say it's a possible problem for Mexico then why isn't it an ongoing problem for the US?  I was dumbfounded to hear her say this yet there are people here in the US that insist it's not a problem.

Doesn't the problem relate to there not being enough good paying jobs in Mexico? These people come to the US, make good money, and send it back to family in MX. Now they won't be able to do that. If they come back they could be unemployed or not make enough to support their household expenses.

The problem to the US will be all of the holes left by these workers that US companies can't replace. But MAGA!

Holes by what workers?  All i hear is the jobs that we americans don't want to do.  What are those jobs?

Right...there aren't enough Americans to take these jobs and the only Americans that want the jobs are very likely the shittiest workers imaginable.

Food service, landscaping, construction, etc.

Merkin Baller

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

This is the Immigration thread right?

Listening to NPR last night and on On Point there was a woman for a radio show called Radio Now by the name of Marianna Comparo talked about the possible deportations coming.

Go to 44:17 "What a second Trump term means" https://www.wnyc.org/shows/on-point

They talk about if Mexico were to receive 7 million people sent back to them and the profound affect it would have on the country and its economy.  They also talk about the 64 Billion that the workers here send back to Mexico to help their families at home.

If it's reason enough to say it's a possible problem for Mexico then why isn't it an ongoing problem for the US?  I was dumbfounded to hear her say this yet there are people here in the US that insist it's not a problem.

Doesn't the problem relate to there not being enough good paying jobs in Mexico? These people come to the US, make good money, and send it back to family in MX. Now they won't be able to do that. If they come back they could be unemployed or not make enough to support their household expenses.

The problem to the US will be all of the holes left by these workers that US companies can't replace. But MAGA!

Holes by what workers?  All i hear is the jobs that we americans don't want to do.  What are those jobs?

Well, for starters: construction laborers, maids and housekeepers, cooks, home health aides, and janitors and building cleaners. 

I think our president elect referred to them as 'black jobs'. That wouldn't be the term I would use, but he sure did. 

You didn't mention the only one that actually comes to mind for me. Agriculture.
All the ones you mentioned I see plenty of white people doing, depending on where you live.
I've seen plenty of house cleaners, construction workers, etc of all nationalities. One of the differences when it is majority-minority or not is it's large business that hires out the labor vs a smaller company doing it themselves.
The only exception I regularly see is agriculture. I've never see dozens of white folks lined up to pick strawberries in a field. 

So, yeah... white people can be undocumented immigrants too, there's no shortage of Irish for example that have overstayed their visas or entered illegally, but I digress. 


I also failed to mention meat packing - I don't have access to the #s, but I'm pretty sure that's another industry that relies heavily on immigrants.

IDK... if our new commander-in-chief goes through with his mass deportation plan, we'll find out pretty quickly just how much these industries rely on undocumented laborers. 

Maybe the price of eggs will come down, but I'm skeptical. 

tempo_n_groove

jerparker20 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

This is the Immigration thread right?

Listening to NPR last night and on On Point there was a woman for a radio show called Radio Now by the name of Marianna Comparo talked about the possible deportations coming.

Go to 44:17 "What a second Trump term means" https://www.wnyc.org/shows/on-point

They talk about if Mexico were to receive 7 million people sent back to them and the profound affect it would have on the country and its economy.  They also talk about the 64 Billion that the workers here send back to Mexico to help their families at home.

If it's reason enough to say it's a possible problem for Mexico then why isn't it an ongoing problem for the US?  I was dumbfounded to hear her say this yet there are people here in the US that insist it's not a problem.

Doesn't the problem relate to there not being enough good paying jobs in Mexico? These people come to the US, make good money, and send it back to family in MX. Now they won't be able to do that. If they come back they could be unemployed or not make enough to support their household expenses.

The problem to the US will be all of the holes left by these workers that US companies can't replace. But MAGA!

Holes by what workers?  All i hear is the jobs that we americans don't want to do.  What are those jobs?

Agricultural workers, those who pick fruits and vegetables and work the fields.

The meat processing and packaging workers.

Industrial laundry workers.

Behind the scenes staff like bar-backs, dishwashers and line cooks in the restaurant and hospitality industries. 

Think of the jobs most Americans would consider a “shit job.” Those are the jobs they fill. Also, there are not enough Americans in America to fill these jobs.

Its amazed me how the politicians have screamed and hollered about the illegals till their blue in the face, but NEVER once do you hear them call out the businesses and employers who actively employ them.

1- can get seasonal passes to work like has happened for the past 60 years...
2-5 These are all jobs that people complain about that are paying poorly.  If no one is there to fill the roles then the rates for those jobs increase.  Kind of like what happened during Covid.  So there's that.

Gern Blansten

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

This is the Immigration thread right?

Listening to NPR last night and on On Point there was a woman for a radio show called Radio Now by the name of Marianna Comparo talked about the possible deportations coming.

Go to 44:17 "What a second Trump term means" https://www.wnyc.org/shows/on-point

They talk about if Mexico were to receive 7 million people sent back to them and the profound affect it would have on the country and its economy.  They also talk about the 64 Billion that the workers here send back to Mexico to help their families at home.

If it's reason enough to say it's a possible problem for Mexico then why isn't it an ongoing problem for the US?  I was dumbfounded to hear her say this yet there are people here in the US that insist it's not a problem.

Doesn't the problem relate to there not being enough good paying jobs in Mexico? These people come to the US, make good money, and send it back to family in MX. Now they won't be able to do that. If they come back they could be unemployed or not make enough to support their household expenses.

The problem to the US will be all of the holes left by these workers that US companies can't replace. But MAGA!

Holes by what workers?  All i hear is the jobs that we americans don't want to do.  What are those jobs?

Well, for starters: construction laborers, maids and housekeepers, cooks, home health aides, and janitors and building cleaners. 

I think our president elect referred to them as 'black jobs'. That wouldn't be the term I would use, but he sure did. 

You didn't mention the only one that actually comes to mind for me. Agriculture.
All the ones you mentioned I see plenty of white people doing, depending on where you live.
I've seen plenty of house cleaners, construction workers, etc of all nationalities. One of the differences when it is majority-minority or not is it's large business that hires out the labor vs a smaller company doing it themselves.
The only exception I regularly see is agriculture. I've never see dozens of white folks lined up to pick strawberries in a field. 

So, yeah... white people can be undocumented immigrants too, there's no shortage of Irish for example that have overstayed their visas or entered illegally, but I digress. 


I also failed to mention meat packing - I don't have access to the #s, but I'm pretty sure that's another industry that relies heavily on immigrants.

IDK... if our new commander-in-chief goes through with his mass deportation plan, we'll find out pretty quickly just how much these industries rely on undocumented laborers. 

Maybe the price of eggs will come down, but I'm skeptical. 

It's been pointed out before how many of these workers the trump org benefits from. Their facilities would suffer for sure.

tempo_n_groove

josevolution said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

This is the Immigration thread right?

Listening to NPR last night and on On Point there was a woman for a radio show called Radio Now by the name of Marianna Comparo talked about the possible deportations coming.

Go to 44:17 "What a second Trump term means" https://www.wnyc.org/shows/on-point

They talk about if Mexico were to receive 7 million people sent back to them and the profound affect it would have on the country and its economy.  They also talk about the 64 Billion that the workers here send back to Mexico to help their families at home.

If it's reason enough to say it's a possible problem for Mexico then why isn't it an ongoing problem for the US?  I was dumbfounded to hear her say this yet there are people here in the US that insist it's not a problem.

Doesn't the problem relate to there not being enough good paying jobs in Mexico? These people come to the US, make good money, and send it back to family in MX. Now they won't be able to do that. If they come back they could be unemployed or not make enough to support their household expenses.

The problem to the US will be all of the holes left by these workers that US companies can't replace. But MAGA!

Holes by what workers?  All i hear is the jobs that we americans don't want to do.  What are those jobs?

Well, for starters: construction laborers, maids and housekeepers, cooks, home health aides, and janitors and building cleaners. 

I think our president elect referred to them as 'black jobs'. That wouldn't be the term I would use, but he sure did. 

You didn't mention the only one that actually comes to mind for me. Agriculture.
All the ones you mentioned I see plenty of white people doing, depending on where you live.
I've seen plenty of house cleaners, construction workers, etc of all nationalities. One of the differences when it is majority-minority or not is it's large business that hires out the labor vs a smaller company doing it themselves.
The only exception I regularly see is agriculture. I've never see dozens of white folks lined up to pick strawberries in a field. 

So where do you live here in NY all the jobs mentioned are done by immigrants! 

Laboreres if union are well paid jobs.cooks if theya re good are paid well, home health aides should have a degree and are paid well, janitors and building cleaners are also usually union jobs.  

See my previous response also.

tempo_n_groove

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

This is the Immigration thread right?

Listening to NPR last night and on On Point there was a woman for a radio show called Radio Now by the name of Marianna Comparo talked about the possible deportations coming.

Go to 44:17 "What a second Trump term means" https://www.wnyc.org/shows/on-point

They talk about if Mexico were to receive 7 million people sent back to them and the profound affect it would have on the country and its economy.  They also talk about the 64 Billion that the workers here send back to Mexico to help their families at home.

If it's reason enough to say it's a possible problem for Mexico then why isn't it an ongoing problem for the US?  I was dumbfounded to hear her say this yet there are people here in the US that insist it's not a problem.

Doesn't the problem relate to there not being enough good paying jobs in Mexico? These people come to the US, make good money, and send it back to family in MX. Now they won't be able to do that. If they come back they could be unemployed or not make enough to support their household expenses.

The problem to the US will be all of the holes left by these workers that US companies can't replace. But MAGA!

Holes by what workers?  All i hear is the jobs that we americans don't want to do.  What are those jobs?

Well, for starters: construction laborers, maids and housekeepers, cooks, home health aides, and janitors and building cleaners. 

I think our president elect referred to them as 'black jobs'. That wouldn't be the term I would use, but he sure did. 

You didn't mention the only one that actually comes to mind for me. Agriculture.
All the ones you mentioned I see plenty of white people doing, depending on where you live.
I've seen plenty of house cleaners, construction workers, etc of all nationalities. One of the differences when it is majority-minority or not is it's large business that hires out the labor vs a smaller company doing it themselves.
The only exception I regularly see is agriculture. I've never see dozens of white folks lined up to pick strawberries in a field. 

So, yeah... white people can be undocumented immigrants too, there's no shortage of Irish for example that have overstayed their visas or entered illegally, but I digress. 


I also failed to mention meat packing - I don't have access to the #s, but I'm pretty sure that's another industry that relies heavily on immigrants.

IDK... if our new commander-in-chief goes through with his mass deportation plan, we'll find out pretty quickly just how much these industries rely on undocumented laborers. 

Maybe the price of eggs will come down, but I'm skeptical. 

The Irish all tend bars, cmon man.  Haven't you gone into the Pig and Whistle?