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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    I think what he does is leave the door open enough to appeal to more people (like my politicians do). He says he'll deport everyone, then back pedals to specify which groups and which exceptions. It is not feasible or practical to deport every illegal immigrant. So when he says "I'll deport them all, I'll start with criminals, make exceptions for dreamers, and see where we are..." its not a stretch tho think there isn't a plan to deport them all.
    No one has confidence in his planning on healthcare, but everyone seems to give him credit for some elaborate plan to deport somewhere between 11-20 million people when we all agree there aren't the funds to do it. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677
    Well both trump and Homan have said that the sky is the limit on funding...it's so necessary to keep all of these illegals from killing us all.

    But yeah...he's totally full of shit. It just doesn't work that way.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,385
    mace1229 said:
    I think what he does is leave the door open enough to appeal to more people (like my politicians do). He says he'll deport everyone, then back pedals to specify which groups and which exceptions. It is not feasible or practical to deport every illegal immigrant. So when he says "I'll deport them all, I'll start with criminals, make exceptions for dreamers, and see where we are..." its not a stretch tho think there isn't a plan to deport them all.
    No one has confidence in his planning on healthcare, but everyone seems to give him credit for some elaborate plan to deport somewhere between 11-20 million people when we all agree there aren't the funds to do it. 
    But did POOTWH lie? Know that he did or was going to lie? At the time he said it? Or did he change his mind? Because “circumstances?”
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,353
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    I think what he does is leave the door open enough to appeal to more people (like my politicians do). He says he'll deport everyone, then back pedals to specify which groups and which exceptions. It is not feasible or practical to deport every illegal immigrant. So when he says "I'll deport them all, I'll start with criminals, make exceptions for dreamers, and see where we are..." its not a stretch tho think there isn't a plan to deport them all.
    No one has confidence in his planning on healthcare, but everyone seems to give him credit for some elaborate plan to deport somewhere between 11-20 million people when we all agree there aren't the funds to do it. 
    But did POOTWH lie? Know that he did or was going to lie? At the time he said it? Or did he change his mind? Because “circumstances?”
    😂 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,353
    What he will actually accomplish vs what he says he will are separated by a huge chasm. This is where some, I think, are missing the point. 

    Whether he “means it” or not is largely irrelevant. His words have consequences, and his words rile up a big swath of racist troglodytes. It may not end in violence, but it just as easily could. Imagine being a brown person in the US right now. Racists don’t give a single fuck about your status: trump’s words give them carte blanche to openly harass these folks, whether they were born there or not. 
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    What he will actually accomplish vs what he says he will are separated by a huge chasm. This is where some, I think, are missing the point. 

    Whether he “means it” or not is largely irrelevant. His words have consequences, and his words rile up a big swath of racist troglodytes. It may not end in violence, but it just as easily could. Imagine being a brown person in the US right now. Racists don’t give a single fuck about your status: trump’s words give them carte blanche to openly harass these folks, whether they were born there or not. 
    Racist were here before trump. The majority of brown people are here legally and I have seen no one call for them to be deported. The issue always has been only about illegal immigrants. Now if I was an illegal immigrant who had been here for 10 years, yeah, I probably wouldn't feel as comfortable as I did a couple years ago. But trump has also stated more than once he will make exceptions (like for the dreamers) and focus on criminals first. Could he be more clear about his intentions? Absolutely. He probably isn't just to rile up some of his base who want all illegals gone, no exceptions. 
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    I think what he does is leave the door open enough to appeal to more people (like my politicians do). He says he'll deport everyone, then back pedals to specify which groups and which exceptions. It is not feasible or practical to deport every illegal immigrant. So when he says "I'll deport them all, I'll start with criminals, make exceptions for dreamers, and see where we are..." its not a stretch tho think there isn't a plan to deport them all.
    No one has confidence in his planning on healthcare, but everyone seems to give him credit for some elaborate plan to deport somewhere between 11-20 million people when we all agree there aren't the funds to do it. 
    But did POOTWH lie? Know that he did or was going to lie? At the time he said it? Or did he change his mind? Because “circumstances?”
    trump has never lied. He will even alter a weather map to prove it. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,353
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    What he will actually accomplish vs what he says he will are separated by a huge chasm. This is where some, I think, are missing the point. 

    Whether he “means it” or not is largely irrelevant. His words have consequences, and his words rile up a big swath of racist troglodytes. It may not end in violence, but it just as easily could. Imagine being a brown person in the US right now. Racists don’t give a single fuck about your status: trump’s words give them carte blanche to openly harass these folks, whether they were born there or not. 
    Racist were here before trump. The majority of brown people are here legally and I have seen no one call for them to be deported. The issue always has been only about illegal immigrants. Now if I was an illegal immigrant who had been here for 10 years, yeah, I probably wouldn't feel as comfortable as I did a couple years ago. But trump has also stated more than once he will make exceptions (like for the dreamers) and focus on criminals first. Could he be more clear about his intentions? Absolutely. He probably isn't just to rile up some of his base who want all illegals gone, no exceptions. 
    so you really don't think that racists feel just a tad more comfortable coming out from under their rocks since trump first came on the scene? 


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,385
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    What he will actually accomplish vs what he says he will are separated by a huge chasm. This is where some, I think, are missing the point. 

    Whether he “means it” or not is largely irrelevant. His words have consequences, and his words rile up a big swath of racist troglodytes. It may not end in violence, but it just as easily could. Imagine being a brown person in the US right now. Racists don’t give a single fuck about your status: trump’s words give them carte blanche to openly harass these folks, whether they were born there or not. 
    Racist were here before trump. The majority of brown people are here legally and I have seen no one call for them to be deported. The issue always has been only about illegal immigrants. Now if I was an illegal immigrant who had been here for 10 years, yeah, I probably wouldn't feel as comfortable as I did a couple years ago. But trump has also stated more than once he will make exceptions (like for the dreamers) and focus on criminals first. Could he be more clear about his intentions? Absolutely. He probably isn't just to rile up some of his base who want all illegals gone, no exceptions. 
    so you really don't think that racists feel just a tad more comfortable coming out from under their rocks since trump first came on the scene? 


    Nah, why would anyone? Very good people. On both sides, by the way.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    edited December 10
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    What he will actually accomplish vs what he says he will are separated by a huge chasm. This is where some, I think, are missing the point. 

    Whether he “means it” or not is largely irrelevant. His words have consequences, and his words rile up a big swath of racist troglodytes. It may not end in violence, but it just as easily could. Imagine being a brown person in the US right now. Racists don’t give a single fuck about your status: trump’s words give them carte blanche to openly harass these folks, whether they were born there or not. 
    Racist were here before trump. The majority of brown people are here legally and I have seen no one call for them to be deported. The issue always has been only about illegal immigrants. Now if I was an illegal immigrant who had been here for 10 years, yeah, I probably wouldn't feel as comfortable as I did a couple years ago. But trump has also stated more than once he will make exceptions (like for the dreamers) and focus on criminals first. Could he be more clear about his intentions? Absolutely. He probably isn't just to rile up some of his base who want all illegals gone, no exceptions. 
    so you really don't think that racists feel just a tad more comfortable coming out from under their rocks since trump first came on the scene? 


    Maybe. But I don't think its going to make a noticeable difference compared to the last 10 years.n  Race has been a high tension issue since Michael Brown and BLM. I really don't think we're going to look back and say racial tensions took a turn for the worse in 2025.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,353
    no, they took a turn for the worse in 2016
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    edited December 10
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    no, they took a turn for the worse in 2016
    I agree. And I don't think it had anything to do with trump back then, that was before he took office. The whole Michael Brown incident and BLM taking off was back in 2014. Before the whole escalator announcement even. I blame the culture of diversity training more than anything. And now everything is about race even when it isn't. BLM was calling for protests and riots after the penny verdict yesterday, which had nothing other than do with race. 
    I remember my first day in a new district back in 2018, we spent 2 days in diversity training where it was basically just white people = bad for 2 days. At the end of the second day a black co-worker stood up and said "I'm going home hating all white people" and he was applauded for his honesty. It didn't start with trump and its not going to end with him.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,353
    I meant when he campaigned and won in 2016
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I meant when he campaigned and won in 2016
    I knew what you meant. But I was point out they were already going downhill before that, so I don't see its fair to blame race relations on Trump. It started under Obama, but I wouldn't blame him either. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I meant when he campaigned and won in 2016
    I knew what you meant. But I was point out they were already going downhill before that, so I don't see its fair to blame race relations on Trump. It started under Obama, but I wouldn't blame him either. 
    But why under Obama? Oh yeah...because trump questioned his citizenship?
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    Gern Blansten said:
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I meant when he campaigned and won in 2016
    I knew what you meant. But I was point out they were already going downhill before that, so I don't see its fair to blame race relations on Trump. It started under Obama, but I wouldn't blame him either. 
    But why under Obama? Oh yeah...because trump questioned his citizenship?
    I think you're giving trump too much credit for things going on in 2014.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    no, they took a turn for the worse in 2016
    I agree. And I don't think it had anything to do with trump back then, that was before he took office. The whole Michael Brown incident and BLM taking off was back in 2014. Before the whole escalator announcement even. I blame the culture of diversity training more than anything. And now everything is about race even when it isn't. BLM was calling for protests and riots after the penny verdict yesterday, which had nothing other than do with race. 
    I remember my first day in a new district back in 2018, we spent 2 days in diversity training where it was basically just white people = bad for 2 days. At the end of the second day a black co-worker stood up and said "I'm going home hating all white people" and he was applauded for his honesty. It didn't start with trump and its not going to end with him.
    Much of Trump fever in 2016 had to do with backlash of having a black president that went “too far” and the right needed to “take the country back”. It had little to do with diversity training. Republicans harnessed the anger and perceived white victimhood that came from a more egalitarian society. 
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,876
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Bingo Beaver 
    Leave it to beaver, I guess.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677
    I still hear the "division started with Obama" shit all the time. It started DURING Obama's term because of bullshit racism against the first black president. 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,195
    Gern Blansten said:
    I still hear the "division started with Obama" shit all the time. It started DURING Obama's term because of bullshit racism against the first black president. 
    Exactly. "We never worried about race until Obama got in." First of all, that's not true and has never been true. Second, I can't think of a single thing he did, outside of being black, that was racial divisive. 

    I've been wrong about two presidential elections dating back to 1984. One was 2008. I did not think America was ready to elect a black president. I was wrong. Turns out America was ready to elect a black president; it just wasn't ready to have a black president.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    tbergs said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Bingo Beaver 
    Leave it to beaver, I guess.
    I made that profile name after a few beers thinking it was an easy change 😂
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,195
    I figured you went to Oregon State.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    OnWis97 said:
    I figured you went to Oregon State.
    I’m a fan. At the moment I was excited because they finally won a conference basketball game. 
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,962
    OnWis97 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    I still hear the "division started with Obama" shit all the time. It started DURING Obama's term because of bullshit racism against the first black president. 
    Exactly. "We never worried about race until Obama got in." First of all, that's not true and has never been true. Second, I can't think of a single thing he did, outside of being black, that was racial divisive. 

    I've been wrong about two presidential elections dating back to 1984. One was 2008. I did not think America was ready to elect a black president. I was wrong. Turns out America was ready to elect a black president; it just wasn't ready to have a black president.
    Trumpolinni was miffed after the dinner where Obama ragged on him! 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,195
    josevolution said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    I still hear the "division started with Obama" shit all the time. It started DURING Obama's term because of bullshit racism against the first black president. 
    Exactly. "We never worried about race until Obama got in." First of all, that's not true and has never been true. Second, I can't think of a single thing he did, outside of being black, that was racial divisive. 

    I've been wrong about two presidential elections dating back to 1984. One was 2008. I did not think America was ready to elect a black president. I was wrong. Turns out America was ready to elect a black president; it just wasn't ready to have a black president.
    Trumpolinni was miffed after the dinner where Obama ragged on him! 
    I hope not. I really hope one joke at the expensive of someone that was more thin-skinned than anyone realized was not the impetus for this entire nightmare.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,353
    OnWis97 said:
    josevolution said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    I still hear the "division started with Obama" shit all the time. It started DURING Obama's term because of bullshit racism against the first black president. 
    Exactly. "We never worried about race until Obama got in." First of all, that's not true and has never been true. Second, I can't think of a single thing he did, outside of being black, that was racial divisive. 

    I've been wrong about two presidential elections dating back to 1984. One was 2008. I did not think America was ready to elect a black president. I was wrong. Turns out America was ready to elect a black president; it just wasn't ready to have a black president.
    Trumpolinni was miffed after the dinner where Obama ragged on him! 
    I hope not. I really hope one joke at the expensive of someone that was more thin-skinned than anyone realized was not the impetus for this entire nightmare.
    a lot of people believe that theory. 
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,225
    To be fair, Seth Meyers went after him a bunch too. 


    I've watched that roast a few times over the years and it still kills.

  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,353
    Tim Simmons said:
    To be fair, Seth Meyers went after him a bunch too. 


    I've watched that roast a few times over the years and it still kills.

    I have this feeling that the Obama stuff bothered him more. 

    Call it a hunch. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,360
    OnWis97 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    I still hear the "division started with Obama" shit all the time. It started DURING Obama's term because of bullshit racism against the first black president. 
    Exactly. "We never worried about race until Obama got in." First of all, that's not true and has never been true. Second, I can't think of a single thing he did, outside of being black, that was racial divisive. 

    I've been wrong about two presidential elections dating back to 1984. One was 2008. I did not think America was ready to elect a black president. I was wrong. Turns out America was ready to elect a black president; it just wasn't ready to have a black president.
    damn. your last sentence feels spot on. hadnt considered that. Fuck, Obama even took Ohio.  TWICE.

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