The Official 2025 Tour Rumor Thread

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  • Kearn5y
    Kearn5y Ireland Posts: 3,035
    seanclax said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    wbutler29 said:
    setlist41 said:
    Bunting10 said:
    Again my view is any Pearl Jam shows are good!….but I do hope it’s not a bunch of festivals.  A couple of them are okay, but hopefully not like 5 festivals and that’s it.  
    Agree
    Shorter the leg, more festivals we’ll get. Economics of 2024-25. We’d all love a proper tour of the southeast, but if the choice is no shows or 5 festivals, sign me up for 2hr greatest hit renditions. If they comeback to Tx or the gulf coast, I’ll sign up to watch them sing commercial jingles 

    Although I’d be happy for the younger fans that can still swing standing at festivals for a full day, for the majority of fans around their age, doing festivals only would be the same as never touring again. It’s just not realistic to expect a fan Ed’s or Jeff’s age to spend a full day standing at a festival.

    They could achieve almost the same thing with playing four show mini residencies. For any given year, a couple or a few   four show residencies  in Seattle, LA, NY or Bos or London, playing 8 or 12 arena shows a year max (in places that can sell out 20,000 capacity shows) would be a much better PJ experience and more accessible for fans as well. 

    They play festivals because they make a ton of money for a single short set. Why would they do more shows and play much longer? I am close to their age and I love when they play festivals. I don't stand all day. Fans have been hoping for residencies, 10C only shows etc. for years and they just do not happen. Everyone would love if they played multiple nights at arenas close to their home.

    I think their economics are a bit different nowadays.. With limited shows for any particular year and a 4 night run they can pull in $20 million gross in one city with ane average price $250 including premiums, and have better merch stats also 

    Festivals work better internationally, and my bet is they make more in the US big cities with packed arenas and some dynamic pricing 

    But perhaps that's not the reason to pick arenas over festivals. Maybe it's acknowledgement the clock is ticking, we are running out of time to all be together,,and a house full of PJ fans is a million times better for them and for us than sharing the venue with Beyonce fans or any other festival co-headliner.



    Not sure that math works as they do not do four night runs. Arena runs mean they need to be onstage for much longer, which is not the current trend. I doubt they make 10 mil for an MSG or a Philly 2 night run. But maybe they do since they sell a TON of merch. They do not share revenue with Beyonce fans. They get a fat fee plus merch for festivals amd ballparks. I think you speak from a fan perspective rather than a band perspective. Nothing wrong with that. A house full of PJ fans is better for us, but maybe they like playing to 60,000 people when they are getting 2m plus merch for a two hour set (30 mins more for ballparks, and minus the Ed rant of course)  ;) It is all speculation, but it seems to me that is the trend.
    I don't get where your logic that this band is suddenly going to turn into a festival band.
    I can't remember the last time they toured and a high percentage of the shows were festival shows.
    Even in Europe they play more of their own shows than festivals 
    Europe 2010 was a small tour and mostly festivals 
    Kearnsy
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,120
    seanclax said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    wbutler29 said:
    setlist41 said:
    Bunting10 said:
    Again my view is any Pearl Jam shows are good!….but I do hope it’s not a bunch of festivals.  A couple of them are okay, but hopefully not like 5 festivals and that’s it.  
    Agree
    Shorter the leg, more festivals we’ll get. Economics of 2024-25. We’d all love a proper tour of the southeast, but if the choice is no shows or 5 festivals, sign me up for 2hr greatest hit renditions. If they comeback to Tx or the gulf coast, I’ll sign up to watch them sing commercial jingles 

    Although I’d be happy for the younger fans that can still swing standing at festivals for a full day, for the majority of fans around their age, doing festivals only would be the same as never touring again. It’s just not realistic to expect a fan Ed’s or Jeff’s age to spend a full day standing at a festival.

    They could achieve almost the same thing with playing four show mini residencies. For any given year, a couple or a few   four show residencies  in Seattle, LA, NY or Bos or London, playing 8 or 12 arena shows a year max (in places that can sell out 20,000 capacity shows) would be a much better PJ experience and more accessible for fans as well. 

    They play festivals because they make a ton of money for a single short set. Why would they do more shows and play much longer? I am close to their age and I love when they play festivals. I don't stand all day. Fans have been hoping for residencies, 10C only shows etc. for years and they just do not happen. Everyone would love if they played multiple nights at arenas close to their home.

    I think their economics are a bit different nowadays.. With limited shows for any particular year and a 4 night run they can pull in $20 million gross in one city with ane average price $250 including premiums, and have better merch stats also 

    Festivals work better internationally, and my bet is they make more in the US big cities with packed arenas and some dynamic pricing 

    But perhaps that's not the reason to pick arenas over festivals. Maybe it's acknowledgement the clock is ticking, we are running out of time to all be together,,and a house full of PJ fans is a million times better for them and for us than sharing the venue with Beyonce fans or any other festival co-headliner.



    Not sure that math works as they do not do four night runs. Arena runs mean they need to be onstage for much longer, which is not the current trend. I doubt they make 10 mil for an MSG or a Philly 2 night run. But maybe they do since they sell a TON of merch. They do not share revenue with Beyonce fans. They get a fat fee plus merch for festivals amd ballparks. I think you speak from a fan perspective rather than a band perspective. Nothing wrong with that. A house full of PJ fans is better for us, but maybe they like playing to 60,000 people when they are getting 2m plus merch for a two hour set (30 mins more for ballparks, and minus the Ed rant of course)  ;) It is all speculation, but it seems to me that is the trend.
    I don't get where your logic that this band is suddenly going to turn into a festival band.
    I can't remember the last time they toured and a high percentage of the shows were festival shows.
    Even in Europe they play more of their own shows than festivals 
    I believe the tours are based upon the the one or two festivals or ballparks they chose to play. I never said they play more festivals than regular shows.
  • We need some actual rumors 
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • steven87
    steven87 Posts: 1,722
    We need some actual rumors 
    I’m guessing we ain’t gonna hear much more at this point until after Aus/NZ. 🦗
  • Bunting10
    Bunting10 Massachusetts, USA Posts: 774
    We need some actual rumors 
    Go Animal had some above
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    2022: Camden, NJ (9/14)
    2024: Boston, MA (9/15 and 9/17)
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,015
    Could we get a Hurricane benefit show in the meantime? This one headed to Florida looks nasty
    This is awesome




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    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
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    2023: St. Paul II
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  • Bunting10 said:
    We need some actual rumors 
    Go Animal had some above
    I know.  I was trying to imply the more recent posts weren’t much of anything.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • raindog80
    raindog80 Reggio Emilia, Italy Posts: 1,192
    edited October 2024
    MikeDigs said:
    Get_Right said:
    PJ35 is an @MikeDigs thing, a wish, a hope, and it's ok to dream ;)  Not sure I have heard it anywhere else. Alaska would be way too expensive for most people to attend and it is a tertiary market. I could see them doing a destination weekend like one big holiday at some point. Maybe Hawaii ($$$$) or Montana. I think the anniversaries mean more to us fans than the band. But anyway, if they are doing dates in the spring, I would expect an announcement after the down under leg is finished.
    Oh what a beautiful dream it is :prayer:  Montana is also a great choice.  I'm excited to go to the next Missoula show.

    The dream manifestation works sometimes.  For Ohana, I posted the lyrics to Gremmie in my Hummus thread, and Gremmie got played that night.  That was amazing.
    Really don't like the PJ35 idea. PJ20 was cool (best weekend ever) but I hope it remains a one-time thing. PJ35, then PJ40... too nostalgic. 
    "I like beautiful melodies telling me terrible things" - Tom Waits
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  • just_one
    just_one Lisbon Posts: 2,288
    The only PJ celebration at this point should be (if they ever get there) PJ50. now back to rumours please
  • MikeDigs
    MikeDigs Santa Monica, CA Posts: 1,680
    The reason I think PJ35 would be great is because the band sounds better than they ever have right now.  Ed has been wearing the 34 jersey and the seemed like a hint to me.  If they did PJ35 then I doubt they would do another PJ## after that.
    I'm spinning, oh-oh-oh I'm spinning
  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 492
    MikeDigs said:
    (...) the band sounds better than they ever have right now.
    Europe would also like to hear a taste of it.
  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,214
    Zen23 said:
    MikeDigs said:
    (...) the band sounds better than they ever have right now.
    Europe would also like to hear a taste of it.
    Absolutely, another taste of it that is ;)
  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,992
    We need some actual rumors 
    Start the Pearl Jam is playing Liberty Village thread. 
    1996.....Toronto
    2005.....Hamilton
    2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
    2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston  N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  
    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
    2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
    2026.....????????????????????????????????????????? 
  • D-Rod said:
    We need some actual rumors 
    Start the Pearl Jam is playing Liberty Village thread. 
    D-Rod said:
    We need some actual rumors 
    Start the Pearl Jam is playing Liberty Village thread. 
    Well there are two venues in walking distance.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • MikeDigs
    MikeDigs Santa Monica, CA Posts: 1,680
    Zen23 said:
    MikeDigs said:
    (...) the band sounds better than they ever have right now.
    Europe would also like to hear a taste of it.
    Right, I've been including London Hyde Park in my wishlist.  I'm not sure where the other locations would be, but Berlin makes sense, and I heard that Prague is wonderful.
    I'm spinning, oh-oh-oh I'm spinning
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,321
    steven87 said:
    We need some actual rumors 
    I’m guessing we ain’t gonna hear much more at this point until after Aus/NZ. 🦗
    ^^^
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  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 492
    edited October 2024
    MikeDigs said:
    Zen23 said:
    MikeDigs said:
    (...) the band sounds better than they ever have right now.
    Europe would also like to hear a taste of it.
    Right, I've been including London Hyde Park in my wishlist.  I'm not sure where the other locations would be, but Berlin makes sense, and I heard that Prague is wonderful.
    I don't care where in Europe. As long as we can even come close to claiming something like that:

    "Wow."

    "Favorite performance."

    "Tonight was perfection. The set was perfect, the crowd was sooooo loud and the band was off the charts."

    "One of the best shows I've ever witnessed."

    "What a performance by the band."

    "The way Ed sang that Baba line a cappella to get back into the song was the best I’ve heard him sing in years."

    "Seventh show and the best I’ve heard Eddie’s voice very strong."

    "Ed nailed it."
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    edited October 2024
    "The show wasn't canceled at least"
  • MikeDigs
    MikeDigs Santa Monica, CA Posts: 1,680
    edited October 2024
    Zen23 said:
    MikeDigs said:
    Zen23 said:
    MikeDigs said:
    (...) the band sounds better than they ever have right now.
    Europe would also like to hear a taste of it.
    Right, I've been including London Hyde Park in my wishlist.  I'm not sure where the other locations would be, but Berlin makes sense, and I heard that Prague is wonderful.
    I don't care where in Europe. As long as we can even come close to claiming something like that:

    "Wow."

    "Favorite performance."

    "Tonight was perfection. The set was perfect, the crowd was sooooo loud and the band was off the charts."

    "One of the best shows I've ever witnessed."

    "What a performance by the band."

    "The way Ed sang that Baba line a cappella to get back into the song was the best I’ve heard him sing in years."

    "Seventh show and the best I’ve heard Eddie’s voice very strong."

    "Ed nailed it."
    I understand you 100%, and I think that you will get to experience this in Europe in 2025.  If there is a PJ35 show in London, I too will be right there with you.  Cheers and looking forward to an amazing set of shows in 2025, and hopefully those that missed out in 2024 get to experience this brilliant band.
    I'm spinning, oh-oh-oh I'm spinning
  • njhaley1
    njhaley1 Valley of the Sun Posts: 875
    "The show wasn't canceled at least"
    LOL