Ohana - Great Music with no politics....please

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  • MikeDigs
    MikeDigs Santa Monica, CA Posts: 1,680
    Setting Sun being removed from the set is the biggest casualty of this.   Would have been the perfect closer to end the US tour.  At the beach.

    But... that Smile acapela was awesome.

    I'm spinning, oh-oh-oh I'm spinning
  • devonfz
    devonfz Posts: 181
    edited October 2024
    I think politics aside, and I’m OK with the band and you guys and whoever else voting for whoever you want good for you, but for me, it’s not just a politics the talking was insane they could’ve played animal in the time that Eddie was talking to the guy with a sign that said let me play on animal not getting setting sun at the end was just a little disappointing
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  • vmfury
    vmfury Posts: 1,091
    MikeDigs said:
    Setting Sun being removed from the set is the biggest casualty of this.   Would have been the perfect closer to end the US tour.  At the beach.

    But... that Smile acapela was awesome.

    Agreed and absolutely. 
    We’ll meet again, but not yet…not yet. 
  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,381
    I just wish in today’s climate artists would keep the politics to a minimum or not at all. Everyone seems so divided just because of politics. We need unity. Music brings a bunch of different walks of life together. This is coming from someone that used to love a good EV rant but now I feel like there’s an opportunity to unite people over the music we love. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,490
    Abe Froman said:
    I just wish in today’s climate artists would keep the politics to a minimum or not at all. Everyone seems so divided just because of politics. We need unity. Music brings a bunch of different walks of life together. This is coming from someone that used to love a good EV rant but now I feel like there’s an opportunity to unite people over the music we love. 
    Please
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Patrick_Sea3
    Patrick_Sea3 West Seattle Posts: 935
    Abe Froman said:
    I just wish in today’s climate artists would keep the politics to a minimum or not at all. Everyone seems so divided just because of politics. We need unity. Music brings a bunch of different walks of life together. This is coming from someone that used to love a good EV rant but now I feel like there’s an opportunity to unite people over the music we love. 
    Really? They eat the cats the dogs…eff the republicans 
  • enddem
    enddem Posts: 184
    Abe Froman said:
    I just wish in today’s climate artists would keep the politics to a minimum or not at all. Everyone seems so divided just because of politics. We need unity. Music brings a bunch of different walks of life together. This is coming from someone that used to love a good EV rant but now I feel like there’s an opportunity to unite people over the music we love. 
    Actually we're divided because of class dealignment, but I digress. We won't come together over anything--let alone the music--so long as there's a political party out there that shamelessly dehumanizes people to mobilize voters. Crush that party (and let's be honest, the other one ain't that great), then there'll be a chance.
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,784
    devonfz said:
    Yah the show was amazing thru betterman and then literally came to a halt the crowd completely lost an  amazing vibe and never recovered it was a seven minute rant on trump that made little sense and when you see the songs scratched off the list yah I’m not happy either it’s one thing if they had started on time or didn’t cut out music but it really was amazing until then plus the two ed solo songs  so yep I get it I just wanted a little more pj
    too
    I’m aligned with this.  In fact I posted the same thing the night of the show in the setlist thread.  I have no issues with the politics being discussed.  It’s important.  But this show had a strict limit of 125 minutes.  They started 5 minutes late and the 7 minute rant makes about 10% of the total show time wasted.  Also the timing of the 7 minutes killed the vibe 100%.  

    And Ed heckling a fan who wanted to play drums was not politics.  It was just a total waste of time and honestly was a little mean.  

    As a result of all that RVM was the lamest crowd for RVM I’ve ever been in.  And then the two duets, pretty though they were, basically sealed the deal and locked in the sedation for the duration.  

    Still had fun and still glad I went, but it could have been so much better.  It could have been a solid block of music like Alanis!   
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,490
    devonfz said:
    Yah the show was amazing thru betterman and then literally came to a halt the crowd completely lost an  amazing vibe and never recovered it was a seven minute rant on trump that made little sense and when you see the songs scratched off the list yah I’m not happy either it’s one thing if they had started on time or didn’t cut out music but it really was amazing until then plus the two ed solo songs  so yep I get it I just wanted a little more pj
    too
    It made CNN and a CNN youtube clip
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • THEBIBLEISTEN
    THEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 2,002
    The stakes are too high this November and if Eddie has a platform and wants to discuss important topics like Democracy then good for him. Democracy is at stake and pj have been political since day 1. If you are shocked by it, then go to a Jane’s Addiction show, not sure what else to tell you. Both shows looked great and jealous I wasn’t there. Vote Blue for democracy in November!  
  • vedpunk
    vedpunk Posts: 960
    RatherStarved said:
    devonfz said:
    Yah the show was amazing thru betterman and then literally came to a halt the crowd completely lost an  amazing vibe and never recovered it was a seven minute rant on trump that made little sense and when you see the songs scratched off the list yah I’m not happy either it’s one thing if they had started on time or didn’t cut out music but it really was amazing until then plus the two ed solo songs  so yep I get it I just wanted a little more pj
    too
    I’m aligned with this.  In fact I posted the same thing the night of the show in the setlist thread.  I have no issues with the politics being discussed.  It’s important.  But this show had a strict limit of 125 minutes.  They started 5 minutes late and the 7 minute rant makes about 10% of the total show time wasted.  Also the timing of the 7 minutes killed the vibe 100%.  

    And Ed heckling a fan who wanted to play drums was not politics.  It was just a total waste of time and honestly was a little mean.  

    As a result of all that RVM was the lamest crowd for RVM I’ve ever been in.  And then the two duets, pretty though they were, basically sealed the deal and locked in the sedation for the duration.  

    Still had fun and still glad I went, but it could have been so much better.  It could have been a solid block of music like Alanis!   
    He’s not wrong 
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,462
    https://x.com/WUTangKids/status/1841537986644590632?t=0DbPsBu0TsN5pZ8O-AGcaA&s=19
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    One of the things that we (including me) may be missing in all of this is that the chatter may be a deliberate strategy to give the band a chance to catch its breath in recognition of their age and the wear and tear of playing and touring. I'm pretty sure this is why we get the Ed solo interlude at the start of every encore-- to extend the band's break from five minutes to ten minutes. Add in a speech or two and the band (especially Matt in light of the Taylor Hawkins tragedy) gets another couple of breathers.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,490
    And Stone in light of the Slash and Axl tragedy of 1994
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • kramer73
    kramer73 Posts: 2,633
    SS105464 said:
    "Pearl Jam has always been vocal about issues, if you don't like it don't go to their shows" 

  • benlw86
    benlw86 Posts: 96
    Everything can be considered 'politics'. People who say 'please don't speak politics' are referring to 'controversial topics' in their eyes. Asking for women to have control over their own body is so fucking obvious, it really should not be controversial, hence, it is not politics.
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,068
    Yup!
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,134
    benlw86 said:
    Everything can be considered 'politics'. People who say 'please don't speak politics' are referring to 'controversial topics' in their eyes. Asking for women to have control over their own body is so fucking obvious, it really should not be controversial, hence, it is not politics.

    Technically, it is judicial. But it is very much political in that politicians could do something about the judicial decision. 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,546
    benlw86 said:
    Everything can be considered 'politics'. People who say 'please don't speak politics' are referring to 'controversial topics' in their eyes. Asking for women to have control over their own body is so fucking obvious, it really should not be controversial, hence, it is not politics.
    Speaking so forcefully yet also euphemistically encapsulates why this issue persists
  • rearviewmirror33
    rearviewmirror33 Posts: 87
    Fuck Trump and all the people who give him the power to promote his hate and fear. I couldn't be more happy that the band I've loved since I was 19 is still aligned with my values as a human. I love you hypocrites who say shut up and play/sing,  but cheer and pump your fist when kid rock or Ted nugent says something you like. You say fuckin right,  that's their God given American right.  If you don't want to hear what Ed or any of the rest of the guys have to say...fuck off..and turn fox news back and continue to get triggered by people who don't like your cult hero,  your a Snowflake!

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