** KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT -PART DEUX **

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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,452
    RunIntoTheRain said:
    tbergs said:
    Tonight's debate is proving that Trump is the clear obstacle to civil political debates. These 2 are being much nicer and acknowledging commonality as people more then we've seen combined in any debate involving Trump. Too bad the ACA can't prevent the Trump disease polluting our country. 
    I’ve been struck by the civility. 
    Yeah I think jd took good advice and didn't come out as trump's attack dog. 
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  • tbergs
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    Vance knew he needed to come across as human so he adjusted, where as Walz is who he is all the time. Vance plays to the crowd and is a snake in the grass.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • curmudgeoness
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    Gern Blansten said:
    curmudgeoness said:
    I don’t like how the polls look. I don’t like how any of this feels. It feels too much like 2016: a campaign in disarray, polls showing the Dem candidate comfortably ahead. Look how that turned out.
    Harris should be up by ten points across the board after that debate. Nothing moves the needle at this point.
    Frankly I’d like coverage of polls to go away. Last night, buried in/by the Eric Adams story, was a poll showing T—-p up by ten points in AZ. I’m of the opinion that AZ is chock full of crazy, but wtf??
    Relax... Everything is falling in line 
    Nope. It’s no sleep ‘til Brooklyn for me. I have a child who, literally, will not survive four more years of that asshole. And I take the Constitution and democracy and freedom and all that way too seriously to relax right now. I was full of optimism in 2016, believing 538.com and stories about the T—-p campaign in disarray because it felt good. Not anymore, not for me.
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  • brianlux
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    tbergs said:
    Vance knew he needed to come across as human so he adjusted, where as Walz is who he is all the time. Vance plays to the crowd and is a snake in the grass.

    Totally agree.  The word "slick" crossed my mind a number of times.  A dangerous animal, if you ask me. 
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  • brianlux
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    curmudgeoness said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    curmudgeoness said:
    I don’t like how the polls look. I don’t like how any of this feels. It feels too much like 2016: a campaign in disarray, polls showing the Dem candidate comfortably ahead. Look how that turned out.
    Harris should be up by ten points across the board after that debate. Nothing moves the needle at this point.
    Frankly I’d like coverage of polls to go away. Last night, buried in/by the Eric Adams story, was a poll showing T—-p up by ten points in AZ. I’m of the opinion that AZ is chock full of crazy, but wtf??
    Relax... Everything is falling in line 
    Nope. It’s no sleep ‘til Brooklyn for me. I have a child who, literally, will not survive four more years of that asshole. And I take the Constitution and democracy and freedom and all that way too seriously to relax right now. I was full of optimism in 2016, believing 538.com and stories about the T—-p campaign in disarray because it felt good. Not anymore, not for me.

    Exactly.  No rest for the weary this time, that for darned sure. And I think Harris and Walz are probably well aware of that.

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  • teskeinc
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  • brianlux
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    Everybody who is going to change their mind about who to vote for president based on what other people on AMT say, raise your hand.

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  • teskeinc
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    brianlux said:
    Everybody who is going to change their mind about who to vote for president based on what other people on AMT say, raise your hand.

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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    Talk about derangement. 

    JFC
  • mrussel1
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    Pretty much dead even on "who won".  Republicans said Vance won, D's to Walz.  Unaffiliated broke slightly to Walz, but probably not statistically significant.  I think what we can see is that it is Trump who is creating the coarseness of the debate and the anger in this country.  I think the civility of these exchanges is yet more evidence of what we already knew.  JFC, let's get him out of the public eye once and for all. 

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/02/politico-snap-poll-division-debate-00182131
  • Johnny Abruzzo
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    It was like a typical "without Trump" debate. I got bored and watched baseball instead.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mrussel1 said:
    Pretty much dead even on "who won".  Republicans said Vance won, D's to Walz.  Unaffiliated broke slightly to Walz, but probably not statistically significant.  I think what we can see is that it is Trump who is creating the coarseness of the debate and the anger in this country.  I think the civility of these exchanges is yet more evidence of what we already knew.  JFC, let's get him out of the public eye once and for all. 

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/02/politico-snap-poll-division-debate-00182131
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  • Gern Blansten
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    mrussel1 said:
    Pretty much dead even on "who won".  Republicans said Vance won, D's to Walz.  Unaffiliated broke slightly to Walz, but probably not statistically significant.  I think what we can see is that it is Trump who is creating the coarseness of the debate and the anger in this country.  I think the civility of these exchanges is yet more evidence of what we already knew.  JFC, let's get him out of the public eye once and for all. 

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/02/politico-snap-poll-division-debate-00182131
    yeah and his "truths" during the debate were more third grade bullshit...what a fucking fool
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  • mrussel1
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    Gern Blansten said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Pretty much dead even on "who won".  Republicans said Vance won, D's to Walz.  Unaffiliated broke slightly to Walz, but probably not statistically significant.  I think what we can see is that it is Trump who is creating the coarseness of the debate and the anger in this country.  I think the civility of these exchanges is yet more evidence of what we already knew.  JFC, let's get him out of the public eye once and for all. 

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/02/politico-snap-poll-division-debate-00182131
    yeah and his "truths" during the debate were more third grade bullshit...what a fucking fool
    I admit to not watching.  I just read some analysis this morning and watched a few highlights. 
  • Tim Simmons
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    As much as cable news people and homers will try, it didn't, and was never gonna change anything. 
  • mace1229
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    Gern Blansten said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Pretty much dead even on "who won".  Republicans said Vance won, D's to Walz.  Unaffiliated broke slightly to Walz, but probably not statistically significant.  I think what we can see is that it is Trump who is creating the coarseness of the debate and the anger in this country.  I think the civility of these exchanges is yet more evidence of what we already knew.  JFC, let's get him out of the public eye once and for all. 

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/02/politico-snap-poll-division-debate-00182131
    yeah and his "truths" during the debate were more third grade bullshit...what a fucking fool
    Didn't Walz say that immigration numbers are below Trump's numbers now? And that isn't true. 
  • Gern Blansten
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    mace1229 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Pretty much dead even on "who won".  Republicans said Vance won, D's to Walz.  Unaffiliated broke slightly to Walz, but probably not statistically significant.  I think what we can see is that it is Trump who is creating the coarseness of the debate and the anger in this country.  I think the civility of these exchanges is yet more evidence of what we already knew.  JFC, let's get him out of the public eye once and for all. 

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/02/politico-snap-poll-division-debate-00182131
    yeah and his "truths" during the debate were more third grade bullshit...what a fucking fool
    Didn't Walz say that immigration numbers are below Trump's numbers now? And that isn't true. 
    not sure...I was referring to trump's comments on truth social while the debate was going on. It was like giving your phone to an ape and letting them bang on the keyboard
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  • tbergs
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    mace1229 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Pretty much dead even on "who won".  Republicans said Vance won, D's to Walz.  Unaffiliated broke slightly to Walz, but probably not statistically significant.  I think what we can see is that it is Trump who is creating the coarseness of the debate and the anger in this country.  I think the civility of these exchanges is yet more evidence of what we already knew.  JFC, let's get him out of the public eye once and for all. 

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/02/politico-snap-poll-division-debate-00182131
    yeah and his "truths" during the debate were more third grade bullshit...what a fucking fool
    Didn't Walz say that immigration numbers are below Trump's numbers now? And that isn't true. 
    It is true that they are lower than Trump's last months in office. I just read it somewhere the other day. Probably in WAPO.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • The Juggler
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    edited October 2024
    mace1229 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Pretty much dead even on "who won".  Republicans said Vance won, D's to Walz.  Unaffiliated broke slightly to Walz, but probably not statistically significant.  I think what we can see is that it is Trump who is creating the coarseness of the debate and the anger in this country.  I think the civility of these exchanges is yet more evidence of what we already knew.  JFC, let's get him out of the public eye once and for all. 

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/02/politico-snap-poll-division-debate-00182131
    yeah and his "truths" during the debate were more third grade bullshit...what a fucking fool
    Didn't Walz say that immigration numbers are below Trump's numbers now? And that isn't true. 




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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Gern Blansten said:
    mace1229 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Pretty much dead even on "who won".  Republicans said Vance won, D's to Walz.  Unaffiliated broke slightly to Walz, but probably not statistically significant.  I think what we can see is that it is Trump who is creating the coarseness of the debate and the anger in this country.  I think the civility of these exchanges is yet more evidence of what we already knew.  JFC, let's get him out of the public eye once and for all. 

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/02/politico-snap-poll-division-debate-00182131
    yeah and his "truths" during the debate were more third grade bullshit...what a fucking fool
    Didn't Walz say that immigration numbers are below Trump's numbers now? And that isn't true. 
    not sure...I was referring to trump's comments on truth social while the debate was going on. It was like giving your phone to an ape and letting them bang on the keyboard
    LMAO
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