Berlin Officially Cancelled

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  • Spunkie
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  • trees
    trees Columbus OHIO Posts: 2,063
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  • reismann
    reismann Posts: 37
    JackD. said:
    Weston1283 said:
    JackD. said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    JackD. said:
    Rescheduling not possible? Waldbühne and Wuhlheide both available after NOS Alive.

    They don‘t want to. This European tour has done more damage to the fanbase than to Ed‘s voice. Everything was cursed and fucked up from the very beginning.
    Didn't they clearly state in the London case that they had scheduling conflicts stopping them from rescheduling. What has arenas being available to do with that?
    Tottenham probably has commitments. Even if availability doesn’t matter, why not postpone indefinitely or for 2025. Have a look how great Springsteen handeled things for the postponed European shows.
    Last time they postponed shows for years, people got mad that the new dates weren’t being booked fast enough so it’s just easier to cancel

    Theres no postponement for 2025 because there’s a good chance Europe won’t get PJ again until 2027/2028 based on how the band is operating now 
    My point is: If they really wanted to make up for the mess they could change plans and come back next year playing anything they‘ve cancelled over the last few years.

    But they don‘t care. I get it.
    Because of the really bad treatment of us 10C members in 6 weeks my membership expires. I am not prepared anymore to pay for a membership where you get a possibility to buy expensive tickets for shows which will be cancelled and not postponed. 
  • PJammin'
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    matt84 said:
    Bet the Aussies are starting to get nervous…
    :lol:
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    I have the first and last shows booked for the tour down under.  Hopefully that will work out. 
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,808
    Have tickets to Berlin and Barcelona.  Thankful to have got the news an hour before leaving for the Toronto airport tonight.  Some funds are lost but at least I didn’t physically travel so far.  Dilemma for Barcelona.  Hope there will be news by Wednesday.   


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  • devonfz
    devonfz Posts: 181
    I have spent my adult life seeing pj shows traveling etc that’s been my thing besides work and kids and life

    i think everyone stuck with huge expenses plus not getting a show.HAS A RIGHT TO VENT!!!!

    I get it Eddie’s sick and can’t perform all good but I empathize with everybody missing a show

    i missed the west coast this year with health issues so serious I couldn’t go and it sucks can’t wait for ohana! So I get it from both sides

    but let people vent … I really feel for them




  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    RatherStarved said:
    Have tickets to Berlin and Barcelona.  Thankful to have got the news an hour before leaving for the Toronto airport tonight.  Some funds are lost but at least I didn’t physically travel so far.  Dilemma for Barcelona.  Hope there will be news by Wednesday.   


    If they announce Barcelona is on I bet it would be Thursday at the earliest.  They can’t say the show is going to be on until Ed or whoever is out of the woods, so announcing that is the case on the day of a canceled show wouldn’t go over well.

    I have tickets to Barcelona and Lisbon, so unless they cancel everything before Friday, I am getting on the plane.  I am flexible enough to fit in Madrid if it happens and Barcelona doesn’t.

    If they play shows it will all be greatest hits like Dublin.  Gonna rely on the crowd to cover the choruses.  It was fun in Dublin.
  • dlymnfld
    dlymnfld CT Posts: 923
    Best part about Fenway is I have Kings of Leon between both PJ shows. If they cancel I still have a show. 👍
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  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,554
    Have tickets to the Wrigley shows. Not getting nervous yet but it's certainly in the back of my mind. Hopefully this blows over in the next few days. Sorry to everyone that's been affected. 
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  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,808
    bootlegger10 said:
    RatherStarved said:
    Have tickets to Berlin and Barcelona.  Thankful to have got the news an hour before leaving for the Toronto airport tonight.  Some funds are lost but at least I didn’t physically travel so far.  Dilemma for Barcelona.  Hope there will be news by Wednesday.   


    If they announce Barcelona is on I bet it would be Thursday at the earliest.  They can’t say the show is going to be on until Ed or whoever is out of the woods, so announcing that is the case on the day of a canceled show wouldn’t go over well.

    I have tickets to Barcelona and Lisbon, so unless they cancel everything before Friday, I am getting on the plane.  I am flexible enough to fit in Madrid if it happens and Barcelona doesn’t.

    If they play shows it will all be greatest hits like Dublin.  Gonna rely on the crowd to cover the choruses.  It was fun in Dublin.
    Good point about Thursday.  Bloody hell.  
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  • seanclax
    seanclax Posts: 576
    bootlegger10 said:
    RatherStarved said:
    Have tickets to Berlin and Barcelona.  Thankful to have got the news an hour before leaving for the Toronto airport tonight.  Some funds are lost but at least I didn’t physically travel so far.  Dilemma for Barcelona.  Hope there will be news by Wednesday.   


    If they announce Barcelona is on I bet it would be Thursday at the earliest.  They can’t say the show is going to be on until Ed or whoever is out of the woods, so announcing that is the case on the day of a canceled show wouldn’t go over well.

    I have tickets to Barcelona and Lisbon, so unless they cancel everything before Friday, I am getting on the plane.  I am flexible enough to fit in Madrid if it happens and Barcelona doesn’t.

    If they play shows it will all be greatest hits like Dublin.  Gonna rely on the crowd to cover the choruses.  It was fun in Dublin.
    I think if they turn up in Barcelona we could still get 2 different shows.
    It would 11 days since Manchester by then.
  • reismann
    reismann Posts: 37
    devonfz said:
    I have spent my adult life seeing pj shows traveling etc that’s been my thing besides work and kids and life

    i think everyone stuck with huge expenses plus not getting a show.HAS A RIGHT TO VENT!!!!

    I get it Eddie’s sick and can’t perform all good but I empathize with everybody missing a show

    i missed the west coast this year with health issues so serious I couldn’t go and it sucks can’t wait for ohana! So I get it from both sides

    but let people vent … I really feel for them




    Bravo!!!! I spent a lot of money for shows. For different shows of different artists. Normally the die-hard fan doesn't accept an opinion against his hero! Let the people vent. 

  • JT167846
    JT167846 Posts: 996
    I blame the person who took them to Coppers after the Dublin show.
    Stars are suns to other people.

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  • maximumlawman
    maximumlawman Regensburg, Germany Posts: 229
    I go along with the fellow fans, who see the big difference in not rescheduling dates they could not (or did not want to) play and had to (or wanted to) cancel on short notice: they did not reschedule Raleigh in ‘16 (my first out of now five cancelled travel-to-shows) or ever played there again. It would have been soothing to have shows in the cancelled cities (even if it‘s years later) and the band find a way to address the issue. Just a cancelling-post on the website is lame. 
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,512
    Am I bummed about the cancelation? Sure
    Am I still going to Berlin and have a good time? Yup
    Would I rather be seeing PJ? You're damn right
    We are here for only a short time. Getting pissed off and angry does me no good.
    Hopefully Barcelona happens.
  • Hoccapuk
    Hoccapuk Posts: 538
    Just remember, canceled = refund of your money
     postponed = hold onto your money for a year or more.

    at least canceled you have your funds and then should the band book the city again in the future you have a chance to go.  

    That said they could and probably should give people who had tickets a first right of refusal when they do come back around but I have no idea how feasible that is.  To my knowledge no one has done that.

    either way the situation is a lose lose for everyone and they are never going to make everyone happy.  Spoken as someone waking up in Berlin this morning who was looking forward to these shows.
  • severinl
    severinl Posts: 30
    Currently on my way to the airport. Yes sure it's nice to travel and Berlin is always nice, but I've been there for PJ before so I don't *need* to see the city every two years.

    With Vienna it's now three shows in a row to be cancelled, there's been no shows to make up for the cancelled shows from 2022, no indication that there will be anything for the shows this run.

    i'll probably have a good time in Berlin, and of course I hope everyone in the band gets healthy soon, but will I travel for the next run? Only if they choose to actually visit different cities again and even then I'll think really, really hard about it....

    And I'm really not sure if the band can afford to lose the traveling fans... 


  • marumaruko
    marumaruko Posts: 413
    I also only came to Berlin for PJ. I’ve been here for work plenty of times before. We now find things to do at the Planetarium and so on.

    If I had known earlier, I would have preferred to go on a hiking trip in the Italian Alps however..  
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  • bootleg
    bootleg Posts: 1,209
    I’m wondering if they are moving away from the postponed show concept in general and opting for the full cancellations from here out?  Postponing is probably difficult and you’re holding everyone’s money.  Plus not everyone is going to be able to make it back to the rescheduled show especially anyone traveling.  It’s got to be a difficult call.   There’s a chance you get better by showtime, but if you wait too long and can’t do it then people don’t have a chance to cancel/refund flights hotels etc…

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