Official 2024 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

BF25394 · February 2024

EBowie said:

All I know is when my membership number begins with 1, I think I should get GA for a show.

The system has never guaranteed tickets based on seniority, so why would you think that? My membership number begins with 1 and I have never thought that because that's not how it works.

restlesssoul · February 2024

greenygreen777 said:

restlesssoul said:

greenygreen777 said:

scurtis said:

My bro in law and wives were trying to do Vegas but he got his email at like 10:30am this morning for both shows. I haven’t gotten a postive or a negative. But I’m not holding my breath.

It’s like they awarded to the individual, and whatever shows they selected, versus awarding for shows to many.

I have 2 reserved for Vegas both nights, and I am looking to sell for what I paid. I am looking for Wrigley N2 as well.

I need a pair of Vegas tickets to both nights. Badly.

I'd be happy to help!

Ok, so how? I've never done this before.

3days · February 2024

Sorry if this has been answered already: Has anybody got a rejection letter yet?

PJINFLA · February 2024

I entered the lottery for the two Fenway shows in part because the seating map seemed to indicate that
these shows would have some of the highest amount of available reserved 10 club seats along with Wrigley.
I was able to get night 2 P1 reserved but I was very surprised that I appear to be shut out for night 1. I realize the show
is on a Sunday compared to a Tuesday but I'm still a little shocked that they filled up all of those reserved 10 club seats.
The demand must have been huge even with a GA pit this time and there must be a ton of PJ Premium seats being
held back. But I guess that's what makes it a lottery. I don't really feel like traveling with all the expense for just 1 show
and don't have the patience to battle the F2F warriors so I will probably just dump the tickets this time around.

BloodMeridian80 · February 2024

NewfieintheUSA said:

BF25394 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

BF25394 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

BF25394 said:

SHZA said:

BF25394 said:

scurtis said:

My bro in law and wives were trying to do Vegas but he got his email at like 10:30am this morning for both shows. I haven’t gotten a postive or a negative. But I’m not holding my breath.

It’s like they awarded to the individual, and whatever shows they selected, versus awarding for shows to many.

No, it's random. In a random drawing, some will get a lot, some will get a few, and some will get none. Whether you were selected for a specific show was independent of whether you were also selected for other shows.

Everyone had the same chance at each show they tried for. Some shows had more demand. I got all of my requests, but I also did not request the high-demand shows in New York, Philadelphia, Boston or Chicago, so my chances of getting all of my requests were better than people who did go for those shows.

There are likely also some people who chose not to put in for P2 for their shows, which meant that, if they got tickets, their seats would be better, but also meant that their chances of being shut out altogether were increased because they didn't have as many entries in the lottery.

Some will get a lot, some will get a few, and some will get none, but the sizes of those groups should not be the same. A very lucky (or unlucky) few people should get a lot or none, while the vast majority of the entrants should have a mixed bag. Like if you flip a coin 10 times, very rarely would you get 10 heads or tails in a row

I think you will find, if you go back through this thread, that the vast majority of entrants got some (to coin a phrase), and did not get all or none (to coin a phrase). With respect to the coin analogy, the coin only has two possible outcomes of equal likelihood. This lottery may seem analogous, but it isn't as simple as "you get tickets or you don't" because the supply and demand is different for each show. Sacramento might be more likely to come up with all tails, MSG all heads and Portland somewhere in between.

Yet my wife and I went 0/4 for Seattle and Philly while others hit all.

You say "yet" as if this outcome is unusual, but this is totally consistent with "some will get all, some will get some, some will get none." I don't mean to sound unsympathetic. I do sympathize with your bad luck today. I hope you have better luck on F2F, or in the general onsale if you go that route.

How is this system improved over the priority one? I can't think of any valid ways.

With the priority system I could almost guarantee winning tickets for a show if I put a lower demand show first. If I put a high demand show first, I knew I was gambling, but was ok with that

Did I say it was an improvement? I have not given any opinion on that. I'm just telling you that it worked out the way it would be expected to work out. That ends up being a boon for some people and a bane for others. Whether that's better or worse than alternative distribution systems is a different question.

It's definitely worse. I agree you'll have random combinations of results with this system, benefitting some and punishing others.

Yep, worse. I did fine with my picks, but removing priority is a big mistake. I do like the P1 and P2 options as it gives higher TC numbers a chance to avoid P2 seats, and it advantages those who just want to be in the building. For those going O-fer, I wonder if they chose GA/P1 and P1 only. That certainly makes you more likely to go 0-fer.

BF25394 · February 2024

PJNB said:

BF25394 said:

tylermoore said:

BF25394 said:

tylermoore said:

scurtis said:

My bro in law and wives were trying to do Vegas but he got his email at like 10:30am this morning for both shows. I haven’t gotten a postive or a negative. But I’m not holding my breath.

It’s like they awarded to the individual, and whatever shows they selected, versus awarding for shows to many.

100%. All or nothing.

No, it's not. There are plenty of examples of people here who got some of the tickets they requested, but not all of them.

Some people got everything they requested. Some people got some of what they requested. Some people got none of what they requested. This is exactly what you would expect from a random drawing.

When there’s patterns it doesn’t seem like random. That’s all I’m saying. Too many people got both nights in a high demand city, while too many people got nothing. You have to admit that’s a fishy coincidence. Either way, you can’t argue this is a better system to get rid of the priority option. It allows for this to happen.

Humans tend to see patterns even in randomness. I think you're glossing over all of the people who have posted in this thread who have said that they got some of what they requested, but not all of what they requested. There's no fishy coincidence. There is a random distribution of outcomes.

Whether this system is better or worse is a separate topic that I was not opining on. I suspect that each system has its pluses and minuses.

I dont care how many times you do the lotto no one should ever win GA for for both Philly's and both Fenways on one account. The odds are insane for that to happen.

Lets say there are 400 winners for GA for Philly. 800 person pit. Sure there are singles out there but lets ignore that as it really does not change things too much.

Lets actually say only 5000 people put in for Philly GA/Res combo. I bet there were more.

400/5000

8% chance at getting GA for night 1.

Now the odds of hitting night 2 as well with those same above numbers. 0.08 x 0.08 =

0.64% chance at hitting night 1 and night 2 GA.

But wait there is more they also hit both Fenways. I think the Fenway pit is larger than Phillies but not sure by how much.

Lets say its 1500 so 750 wins since they are pairs. Lets keep 5000 as the total for how many people put in again.

750/5000= 0.15

So that gives us 0.08 x 0.08 x 0.15 x 0.15= 0.000144 or 0.0144% odds.

I was just talking with a friend and guess how many GA they got on one account. 9 pair out of 11 shows they put in for.

Want to do the math on that?

There are so many things wrong with this. For one thing, you're making up supply and demand numbers out of thin air and then generating odds from them as if they are the actual odds. For another, your friend who put in for 11 shows did not go 9-for-11 on high-demand shows. The odds of some of those GAs will be much higher than some others. You do not have the requisite data to do this math properly, and you are using anecdotal evidence, ignoring the anecdota that don't fit your thesis and giving extra weight to the ones that do.

I can't keep doing this. The system worked as it should have and as it was intended to. That worked out great for some of us, and poorly for others. Alternative systems might be better (though they would likely generate different complaints). But there's no conspiracy at work here. I don't know what else to say to people who believe that there is.

BF25394 · February 2024

BloodMeridian80 said:

For those going O-fer, I wonder if they chose GA/P1 and P1 only. That certainly makes you more likely to go 0-fer.

This is a very good point. There are no doubt some people who did this, either because they didn't read the instructions or because they didn't believe the instructions (or because they would rather not be in the building than in a "bad" seat).

NewfieintheUSA · February 2024

BF25394 said:

PJNB said:

BF25394 said:

tylermoore said:

BF25394 said:

tylermoore said:

scurtis said:

My bro in law and wives were trying to do Vegas but he got his email at like 10:30am this morning for both shows. I haven’t gotten a postive or a negative. But I’m not holding my breath.

It’s like they awarded to the individual, and whatever shows they selected, versus awarding for shows to many.

100%. All or nothing.

No, it's not. There are plenty of examples of people here who got some of the tickets they requested, but not all of them.

Some people got everything they requested. Some people got some of what they requested. Some people got none of what they requested. This is exactly what you would expect from a random drawing.

When there’s patterns it doesn’t seem like random. That’s all I’m saying. Too many people got both nights in a high demand city, while too many people got nothing. You have to admit that’s a fishy coincidence. Either way, you can’t argue this is a better system to get rid of the priority option. It allows for this to happen.

Humans tend to see patterns even in randomness. I think you're glossing over all of the people who have posted in this thread who have said that they got some of what they requested, but not all of what they requested. There's no fishy coincidence. There is a random distribution of outcomes.

Whether this system is better or worse is a separate topic that I was not opining on. I suspect that each system has its pluses and minuses.

I dont care how many times you do the lotto no one should ever win GA for for both Philly's and both Fenways on one account. The odds are insane for that to happen.

Lets say there are 400 winners for GA for Philly. 800 person pit. Sure there are singles out there but lets ignore that as it really does not change things too much.

Lets actually say only 5000 people put in for Philly GA/Res combo. I bet there were more.

400/5000

8% chance at getting GA for night 1.

Now the odds of hitting night 2 as well with those same above numbers. 0.08 x 0.08 =

0.64% chance at hitting night 1 and night 2 GA.

But wait there is more they also hit both Fenways. I think the Fenway pit is larger than Phillies but not sure by how much.

Lets say its 1500 so 750 wins since they are pairs. Lets keep 5000 as the total for how many people put in again.

750/5000= 0.15

So that gives us 0.08 x 0.08 x 0.15 x 0.15= 0.000144 or 0.0144% odds.

I was just talking with a friend and guess how many GA they got on one account. 9 pair out of 11 shows they put in for.

Want to do the math on that?

There are so many things wrong with this. For one thing, you're making up supply and demand numbers out of thin air and then generating odds from them as if they are the actual odds. For another, your friend who put in for 11 shows did not go 9-for-11 on high-demand shows. The odds of some of those GAs will be much higher than some others. You do not have the requisite data to do this math properly, and you are using anecdotal evidence, ignoring the anecdota that don't fit your thesis and giving extra weight to the ones that do.

I can't keep doing this. The system worked as it should have and as it was intended to. That worked out great for some of us, and poorly for others. Alternative systems might be better (though they would likely generate different complaints). But there's no conspiracy at work here. I don't know what else to say to people who believe that there is.

The math is making assumptions, but do you think there was less than 5000 requests for GA for Philly and Boston? The general idea of this is correct.

Eddieredder · February 2024

Yeah. Just not a big conspiracy guy. There never seems to be one when it works out for ya. Tends to be an awful lot when you lose. Just doesn't add up in the end.

PJNB · February 2024

BF25394 said:

PJNB said:

BF25394 said:

tylermoore said:

BF25394 said:

tylermoore said:

scurtis said:

My bro in law and wives were trying to do Vegas but he got his email at like 10:30am this morning for both shows. I haven’t gotten a postive or a negative. But I’m not holding my breath.

It’s like they awarded to the individual, and whatever shows they selected, versus awarding for shows to many.

100%. All or nothing.

No, it's not. There are plenty of examples of people here who got some of the tickets they requested, but not all of them.

Some people got everything they requested. Some people got some of what they requested. Some people got none of what they requested. This is exactly what you would expect from a random drawing.

When there’s patterns it doesn’t seem like random. That’s all I’m saying. Too many people got both nights in a high demand city, while too many people got nothing. You have to admit that’s a fishy coincidence. Either way, you can’t argue this is a better system to get rid of the priority option. It allows for this to happen.

Humans tend to see patterns even in randomness. I think you're glossing over all of the people who have posted in this thread who have said that they got some of what they requested, but not all of what they requested. There's no fishy coincidence. There is a random distribution of outcomes.

Whether this system is better or worse is a separate topic that I was not opining on. I suspect that each system has its pluses and minuses.

I dont care how many times you do the lotto no one should ever win GA for for both Philly's and both Fenways on one account. The odds are insane for that to happen.

Lets say there are 400 winners for GA for Philly. 800 person pit. Sure there are singles out there but lets ignore that as it really does not change things too much.

Lets actually say only 5000 people put in for Philly GA/Res combo. I bet there were more.

400/5000

8% chance at getting GA for night 1.

Now the odds of hitting night 2 as well with those same above numbers. 0.08 x 0.08 =

0.64% chance at hitting night 1 and night 2 GA.

But wait there is more they also hit both Fenways. I think the Fenway pit is larger than Phillies but not sure by how much.

Lets say its 1500 so 750 wins since they are pairs. Lets keep 5000 as the total for how many people put in again.

750/5000= 0.15

So that gives us 0.08 x 0.08 x 0.15 x 0.15= 0.000144 or 0.0144% odds.

I was just talking with a friend and guess how many GA they got on one account. 9 pair out of 11 shows they put in for.

Want to do the math on that?

There are so many things wrong with this. For one thing, you're making up supply and demand numbers out of thin air and then generating odds from them as if they are the actual odds. For another, your friend who put in for 11 shows did not go 9-for-11 on high-demand shows. The odds of some of those GAs will be much higher than some others. You do not have the requisite data to do this math properly, and you are using anecdotal evidence, ignoring the anecdota that don't fit your thesis and giving extra weight to the ones that do.

I can't keep doing this. The system worked as it should have and as it was intended to. That worked out great for some of us, and poorly for others. Alternative systems might be better (though they would likely generate different complaints). But there's no conspiracy at work here. I don't know what else to say to people who believe that there is.

Mine numbers are not pulled out of thin air. Those numbers are likely on the low side with how many people put in for Fenway and Philly and those pit sizes are close enough to not matter either way within a hundred.

EBowie · February 2024

Bottom line is way too many cases of one account getting multiple GAs while another account gets zero. I understand it’s complicated and nearly impossible to make a perfect system. But whatever algorithms are being used to distribute tickets are producing lopsided results.

Bunting10 · February 2024

Got Fenway x2!!

YourDirtisMyfood · February 2024

Do people put their tickets in Apple Wallet or don't bother?

NewfieintheUSA · February 2024

BF25394 said:

BloodMeridian80 said:

For those going O-fer, I wonder if they chose GA/P1 and P1 only. That certainly makes you more likely to go 0-fer.

This is a very good point. There are no doubt some people who did this, either because they didn't read the instructions or because they didn't believe the instructions (or because they would rather not be in the building than in a "bad" seat).

My issue is not with not being selected, it's the fact that some people got GA to all 4 of the shows I put in for while i got nothing. I didn't select p2, I knew that decreased my odds, but selecting p2 should not increase your odds of getting GA

jfconnorjr · February 2024

EBowie said:

All I know is when my membership number begins with 1, I think I should get GA for a show. I got zero GA when I’m seeing other people scoring GA for multiple shows. How is that fair? I’ve been through all the different iterations of systems over the years and I’ve never gotten lucky with any of them. It’s fair to have everyone get a shot at one GA show. But what should not happen is someone getting multiple GA shows while others get zero. If someone with less seniority than me is in the pit for 2 shows and I’m in for none, that tells me it’s a bad system.

My number is 88xxx and I didn’t get any tickets at all.

Not sure but it feels less than optimal. If it truly is random, I have really really bad luck.

SVRDhand13 · February 2024

EBowie said:

Bottom line is way too many cases of one account getting multiple GAs while another account gets zero. I understand it’s complicated and nearly impossible to make a perfect system. But whatever algorithms are being used to distribute tickets are producing lopsided results.

TM doesn’t get enough fees to create a decent algorithm

NewfieintheUSA · February 2024

BF25394 said:

PJNB said:

BF25394 said:

tylermoore said:

BF25394 said:

tylermoore said:

scurtis said:

My bro in law and wives were trying to do Vegas but he got his email at like 10:30am this morning for both shows. I haven’t gotten a postive or a negative. But I’m not holding my breath.

It’s like they awarded to the individual, and whatever shows they selected, versus awarding for shows to many.

100%. All or nothing.

No, it's not. There are plenty of examples of people here who got some of the tickets they requested, but not all of them.

Some people got everything they requested. Some people got some of what they requested. Some people got none of what they requested. This is exactly what you would expect from a random drawing.

When there’s patterns it doesn’t seem like random. That’s all I’m saying. Too many people got both nights in a high demand city, while too many people got nothing. You have to admit that’s a fishy coincidence. Either way, you can’t argue this is a better system to get rid of the priority option. It allows for this to happen.

Humans tend to see patterns even in randomness. I think you're glossing over all of the people who have posted in this thread who have said that they got some of what they requested, but not all of what they requested. There's no fishy coincidence. There is a random distribution of outcomes.

Whether this system is better or worse is a separate topic that I was not opining on. I suspect that each system has its pluses and minuses.

I dont care how many times you do the lotto no one should ever win GA for for both Philly's and both Fenways on one account. The odds are insane for that to happen.

Lets say there are 400 winners for GA for Philly. 800 person pit. Sure there are singles out there but lets ignore that as it really does not change things too much.

Lets actually say only 5000 people put in for Philly GA/Res combo. I bet there were more.

400/5000

8% chance at getting GA for night 1.

Now the odds of hitting night 2 as well with those same above numbers. 0.08 x 0.08 =

0.64% chance at hitting night 1 and night 2 GA.

But wait there is more they also hit both Fenways. I think the Fenway pit is larger than Phillies but not sure by how much.

Lets say its 1500 so 750 wins since they are pairs. Lets keep 5000 as the total for how many people put in again.

750/5000= 0.15

So that gives us 0.08 x 0.08 x 0.15 x 0.15= 0.000144 or 0.0144% odds.

I was just talking with a friend and guess how many GA they got on one account. 9 pair out of 11 shows they put in for.

Want to do the math on that?

There are so many things wrong with this. For one thing, you're making up supply and demand numbers out of thin air and then generating odds from them as if they are the actual odds. For another, your friend who put in for 11 shows did not go 9-for-11 on high-demand shows. The odds of some of those GAs will be much higher than some others. You do not have the requisite data to do this math properly, and you are using anecdotal evidence, ignoring the anecdota that don't fit your thesis and giving extra weight to the ones that do.

I can't keep doing this. The system worked as it should have and as it was intended to. That worked out great for some of us, and poorly for others. Alternative systems might be better (though they would likely generate different complaints). But there's no conspiracy at work here. I don't know what else to say to people who believe that there is.

Even with the 9 of 11 including some lower demand shows, the compounded probability of hitting GA on 9 out of 11 shows is extremely low

Eddieredder · February 2024

NewfieintheUSA said:

BF25394 said:

BloodMeridian80 said:

For those going O-fer, I wonder if they chose GA/P1 and P1 only. That certainly makes you more likely to go 0-fer.

This is a very good point. There are no doubt some people who did this, either because they didn't read the instructions or because they didn't believe the instructions (or because they would rather not be in the building than in a "bad" seat).

My issue is not with not being selected, it's the fact that some people got GA to all 4 of the shows I put in for while i got nothing. I didn't select p2, I knew that decreased my odds, but selecting p2 should not increase your odds of getting GA

Selecting p2 doesn't decrease, or increase, your GA odds at all.

cutz · February 2024

Aggie98 said:

Forgive me for not reading the previous 78 pages.... I was incredibly lucky with the lottery results this year and am wondering if anyone else hit it like I did. I went 10 for 10. Vancouver N1 & N2, Vegas N1, MSG N2, PHI N1 & N2, BOS N1, NZ, Gold Coast and Melbourne. About half and half for GA and Reserved seating. Any others get all their shows? To top it off, my wife got MSG N1.

You need to play the real Lottery with that Luck.

BloodMeridian80 · February 2024

BF25394 said:

PJNB said:

BF25394 said:

tylermoore said:

BF25394 said:

tylermoore said:

scurtis said:

My bro in law and wives were trying to do Vegas but he got his email at like 10:30am this morning for both shows. I haven’t gotten a postive or a negative. But I’m not holding my breath.

It’s like they awarded to the individual, and whatever shows they selected, versus awarding for shows to many.

100%. All or nothing.

No, it's not. There are plenty of examples of people here who got some of the tickets they requested, but not all of them.

Some people got everything they requested. Some people got some of what they requested. Some people got none of what they requested. This is exactly what you would expect from a random drawing.

When there’s patterns it doesn’t seem like random. That’s all I’m saying. Too many people got both nights in a high demand city, while too many people got nothing. You have to admit that’s a fishy coincidence. Either way, you can’t argue this is a better system to get rid of the priority option. It allows for this to happen.

Humans tend to see patterns even in randomness. I think you're glossing over all of the people who have posted in this thread who have said that they got some of what they requested, but not all of what they requested. There's no fishy coincidence. There is a random distribution of outcomes.

Whether this system is better or worse is a separate topic that I was not opining on. I suspect that each system has its pluses and minuses.

I dont care how many times you do the lotto no one should ever win GA for for both Philly's and both Fenways on one account. The odds are insane for that to happen.

Lets say there are 400 winners for GA for Philly. 800 person pit. Sure there are singles out there but lets ignore that as it really does not change things too much.

Lets actually say only 5000 people put in for Philly GA/Res combo. I bet there were more.

400/5000

8% chance at getting GA for night 1.

Now the odds of hitting night 2 as well with those same above numbers. 0.08 x 0.08 =

0.64% chance at hitting night 1 and night 2 GA.

But wait there is more they also hit both Fenways. I think the Fenway pit is larger than Phillies but not sure by how much.

Lets say its 1500 so 750 wins since they are pairs. Lets keep 5000 as the total for how many people put in again.

750/5000= 0.15

So that gives us 0.08 x 0.08 x 0.15 x 0.15= 0.000144 or 0.0144% odds.

I was just talking with a friend and guess how many GA they got on one account. 9 pair out of 11 shows they put in for.

Want to do the math on that?

Alternative systems might be better (though they would likely generate different complaints).

I agree with much of what you are saying, and there will always be complaints, but a system that allows for someone to get 4 GA's out of 5 or 6 shows and another person gets 0 GA's, or even 0-1 tickets total, is a deeply flawed system (in terms of equity) and no system prior to this has been this unequal.

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