Official 2024 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

JR271857 · February 2024

Must be my lucky week - went 3/3

Philly 1 - P1
Philly 2 - P2
Baltimore - GA pit

I'm rationalizing that Baltimore is karma from 2020 not being rescheduled, and Philly for striking out on previous tours. Hope F2F comes through for everyone - it worked great for me last year at St Paul.

Steadyd84 · February 2024

I don't wanna be that guy lol, but I just spent ~15 mins digging thru the post from today trying to find a screen shot for seating chart with P1/P2 color coding for Sacramento... anyone have that handy?

Go Beavers · February 2024

NewfieintheUSA said:

EBowie said:

Seniority should matter. Been in the fan club for 24 years. I’m not saying there’s a perfect solution but seniority should most definitely matter.

It does for seat placement, if they made it matter for getting select they wouldn't sell new memberships

And as a 24 year member, I like the current way because I prefer GA over reserved, but if I do happen to get reserved, my seats are decent.

Bill A · February 2024

Scored Wrigley P1 but struck out in Philly. I live in PA and have seen them several times in PA, NJ and NY. I've been to Wrigley twice for baseball games (1× in the park & 1x on a rooftop) but never saw a concert there. Looking forward to a new experience!

ST66483 · February 2024

I struck out on two shows (selected all seating/GA options). My wife hit P2 for one show. I appreciate having the chance, and have had some luck in the past, so I suppose I was due for some poor luck.

That said, don’t want to take away from anyone’s excitement and a huge congrats to all the winners over the past few days!

bootleg · February 2024

BF25394 said:

tylermoore said:

BF25394 said:

tylermoore said:

scurtis said:

My bro in law and wives were trying to do Vegas but he got his email at like 10:30am this morning for both shows. I haven’t gotten a postive or a negative. But I’m not holding my breath.

It’s like they awarded to the individual, and whatever shows they selected, versus awarding for shows to many.

100%. All or nothing.

No, it's not. There are plenty of examples of people here who got some of the tickets they requested, but not all of them.

Some people got everything they requested. Some people got some of what they requested. Some people got none of what they requested. This is exactly what you would expect from a random drawing.

When there’s patterns it doesn’t seem like random. That’s all I’m saying. Too many people got both nights in a high demand city, while too many people got nothing. You have to admit that’s a fishy coincidence. Either way, you can’t argue this is a better system to get rid of the priority option. It allows for this to happen.

Humans tend to see patterns even in randomness. I think you're glossing over all of the people who have posted in this thread who have said that they got some of what they requested, but not all of what they requested. There's no fishy coincidence. There is a random distribution of outcomes.

Whether this system is better or worse is a separate topic that I was not opining on. I suspect that each system has its pluses and minuses.

Would probably help if we had more data. Like how many tix are available to begin with and what % of those tix are GA etc.. like is it 10% Ga, 60% P1, 30% P2. Then you could calculate the different types of outcomes you would expect to see. I think the only odd one that stood out to me was LA. Didn’t see anyone report on getting GA one night and P1 or P2 the next. Seemed like they were all reporting GA for both or P1 for both.

Sarava · February 2024

Gludfssr said:

whitepants said:

KJ228171 said:

Soybeans said:

burnspsu said:

So far I'm 0 for 5. This is a tough thread to be reading right now. 26 years of Ten Club..........

This is my 30th year in 10c. I have been shut out of everything in the last 2 tours. Today, both me and my bud put in for Philly X 2 and MSG x 2. We got lucky on 1 order for MSG night 2.

So, 1 for 8 on the draw today. Please go back to money orders and shitty, non-TM venues.

27 years. I just checked. This is the fourth tour I've been shut out of. I just canceled my auto-renewal. After the changes this year there's not even a free t-shirt. Congrats to those that it get tix.

I hear you. The membership doesn't even matter anymore. My number is 149xxx, but that doesn't mean jack shit in today's concert tour world for Pearl Jam. I got shut out for Vegas and Los Angeles, and I'm right here in fucking SCAL. Been a member since 1996, and I'm very angry and bitter right now. If only the mods and the members of PJ can read this message and understand how fucked this all is.

Same, been a member since 94 and I requested Vegas and Both LA shows.
How can someone get 9 shows with 3 of them being the ones I requested as well, and I can’t even get 1 ticket to any of the 3 I requested. Not cool at all.

Did you put in for P2 for Vegas? Because hardly anyone posted that they got P2 (I did actually).

Kevinman · February 2024

So…,,,are we at the point where they are figuring out how much they can charge for the inflated price tickets and then determine if they make more money that way or by releasing more 10C tix.

BF25394 · February 2024

NewfieintheUSA said:

BF25394 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

BF25394 said:

SHZA said:

BF25394 said:

scurtis said:

My bro in law and wives were trying to do Vegas but he got his email at like 10:30am this morning for both shows. I haven’t gotten a postive or a negative. But I’m not holding my breath.

It’s like they awarded to the individual, and whatever shows they selected, versus awarding for shows to many.

No, it's random. In a random drawing, some will get a lot, some will get a few, and some will get none. Whether you were selected for a specific show was independent of whether you were also selected for other shows.

Everyone had the same chance at each show they tried for. Some shows had more demand. I got all of my requests, but I also did not request the high-demand shows in New York, Philadelphia, Boston or Chicago, so my chances of getting all of my requests were better than people who did go for those shows.

There are likely also some people who chose not to put in for P2 for their shows, which meant that, if they got tickets, their seats would be better, but also meant that their chances of being shut out altogether were increased because they didn't have as many entries in the lottery.

Some will get a lot, some will get a few, and some will get none, but the sizes of those groups should not be the same. A very lucky (or unlucky) few people should get a lot or none, while the vast majority of the entrants should have a mixed bag. Like if you flip a coin 10 times, very rarely would you get 10 heads or tails in a row

I think you will find, if you go back through this thread, that the vast majority of entrants got some (to coin a phrase), and did not get all or none (to coin a phrase). With respect to the coin analogy, the coin only has two possible outcomes of equal likelihood. This lottery may seem analogous, but it isn't as simple as "you get tickets or you don't" because the supply and demand is different for each show. Sacramento might be more likely to come up with all tails, MSG all heads and Portland somewhere in between.

Yet my wife and I went 0/4 for Seattle and Philly while others hit all.

You say "yet" as if this outcome is unusual, but this is totally consistent with "some will get all, some will get some, some will get none." I don't mean to sound unsympathetic. I do sympathize with your bad luck today. I hope you have better luck on F2F, or in the general onsale if you go that route.

How is this system improved over the priority one? I can't think of any valid ways.

With the priority system I could almost guarantee winning tickets for a show if I put a lower demand show first. If I put a high demand show first, I knew I was gambling, but was ok with that

Did I say it was an improvement? I have not given any opinion on that. I'm just telling you that it worked out the way it would be expected to work out. That ends up being a boon for some people and a bane for others. Whether that's better or worse than alternative distribution systems is a different question.

Poncier · February 2024

southp said:

jfconnorjr said:

30yr 10c member……

struck out 0 for 4 gm

Ouch. That hurts. Back in 1996 you just mailed in your request card with a check and you got your tickets in the mail. Seems archaic but it worked.

I’m also a 30 year+ member and I was 1 for 2. I got Fenway 2 and struck out on MSG 1. But to be honest that’s exactly what I wanted.

Way too many members now to do index cards compared to 1996.
It worked back then because it was on a much smaller scale. And we could get only one pair of tix to that tour.

wiscojam · February 2024

NewfieintheUSA said:

EBowie said:

Seniority should matter. Been in the fan club for 24 years. I’m not saying there’s a perfect solution but seniority should most definitely matter.

It does for seat placement, if they made it matter for getting select they wouldn't sell new memberships

100%

BF25394 · February 2024

Kevinman said:

So…,,,are we at the point where they are figuring out how much they can charge for the inflated price tickets and then determine if they make more money that way or by releasing more 10C tix.

No.

NewfieintheUSA · February 2024

BF25394 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

BF25394 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

BF25394 said:

SHZA said:

BF25394 said:

scurtis said:

My bro in law and wives were trying to do Vegas but he got his email at like 10:30am this morning for both shows. I haven’t gotten a postive or a negative. But I’m not holding my breath.

It’s like they awarded to the individual, and whatever shows they selected, versus awarding for shows to many.

No, it's random. In a random drawing, some will get a lot, some will get a few, and some will get none. Whether you were selected for a specific show was independent of whether you were also selected for other shows.

Everyone had the same chance at each show they tried for. Some shows had more demand. I got all of my requests, but I also did not request the high-demand shows in New York, Philadelphia, Boston or Chicago, so my chances of getting all of my requests were better than people who did go for those shows.

There are likely also some people who chose not to put in for P2 for their shows, which meant that, if they got tickets, their seats would be better, but also meant that their chances of being shut out altogether were increased because they didn't have as many entries in the lottery.

Some will get a lot, some will get a few, and some will get none, but the sizes of those groups should not be the same. A very lucky (or unlucky) few people should get a lot or none, while the vast majority of the entrants should have a mixed bag. Like if you flip a coin 10 times, very rarely would you get 10 heads or tails in a row

I think you will find, if you go back through this thread, that the vast majority of entrants got some (to coin a phrase), and did not get all or none (to coin a phrase). With respect to the coin analogy, the coin only has two possible outcomes of equal likelihood. This lottery may seem analogous, but it isn't as simple as "you get tickets or you don't" because the supply and demand is different for each show. Sacramento might be more likely to come up with all tails, MSG all heads and Portland somewhere in between.

Yet my wife and I went 0/4 for Seattle and Philly while others hit all.

You say "yet" as if this outcome is unusual, but this is totally consistent with "some will get all, some will get some, some will get none." I don't mean to sound unsympathetic. I do sympathize with your bad luck today. I hope you have better luck on F2F, or in the general onsale if you go that route.

How is this system improved over the priority one? I can't think of any valid ways.

With the priority system I could almost guarantee winning tickets for a show if I put a lower demand show first. If I put a high demand show first, I knew I was gambling, but was ok with that

Did I say it was an improvement? I have not given any opinion on that. I'm just telling you that it worked out the way it would be expected to work out. That ends up being a boon for some people and a bane for others. Whether that's better or worse than alternative distribution systems is a different question.

It's definitely worse. I agree you'll have random combinations of results with this system, benefitting some and punishing others.

Its_Imbas · February 2024

Went 2/4 Philly 2 and Boston 1. Pretty stoked , looking forward to trying to fill my dance card on F2F good luck everyone!

njhaley1 · February 2024

cp3iverson said:

Third straight tour I bat .000

There's still a chance for general on-sale, F2F. Might do PJ Premium if it's not too bad.

No complaints from me. It happens. I've gotten awesome 10C seats in the past few decades (remember the index card days? lol). Ive had awesome people here hook us up with great seats.

I sincerely hope some fans got 10C seats to their very first PJ show. That would be an awesome consolation for me.

Seattle 1 and 2 will be my 7yo daughter's first shows. We've been planning the trip since November.

Means the world to me to have her experience such an important part of my youth, in Seattle no less. I feel incredibly lucky to be able to share this with her.

EBowie · February 2024

All I know is when my membership number begins with 1, I think I should get GA for a show. I got zero GA when I’m seeing other people scoring GA for multiple shows. How is that fair? I’ve been through all the different iterations of systems over the years and I’ve never gotten lucky with any of them. It’s fair to have everyone get a shot at one GA show. But what should not happen is someone getting multiple GA shows while others get zero. If someone with less seniority than me is in the pit for 2 shows and I’m in for none, that tells me it’s a bad system.

iwasatpj20 · February 2024

NewfieintheUSA said:

BF25394 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

BF25394 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

BF25394 said:

SHZA said:

BF25394 said:

scurtis said:

My bro in law and wives were trying to do Vegas but he got his email at like 10:30am this morning for both shows. I haven’t gotten a postive or a negative. But I’m not holding my breath.

It’s like they awarded to the individual, and whatever shows they selected, versus awarding for shows to many.

No, it's random. In a random drawing, some will get a lot, some will get a few, and some will get none. Whether you were selected for a specific show was independent of whether you were also selected for other shows.

Everyone had the same chance at each show they tried for. Some shows had more demand. I got all of my requests, but I also did not request the high-demand shows in New York, Philadelphia, Boston or Chicago, so my chances of getting all of my requests were better than people who did go for those shows.

There are likely also some people who chose not to put in for P2 for their shows, which meant that, if they got tickets, their seats would be better, but also meant that their chances of being shut out altogether were increased because they didn't have as many entries in the lottery.

Some will get a lot, some will get a few, and some will get none, but the sizes of those groups should not be the same. A very lucky (or unlucky) few people should get a lot or none, while the vast majority of the entrants should have a mixed bag. Like if you flip a coin 10 times, very rarely would you get 10 heads or tails in a row

I think you will find, if you go back through this thread, that the vast majority of entrants got some (to coin a phrase), and did not get all or none (to coin a phrase). With respect to the coin analogy, the coin only has two possible outcomes of equal likelihood. This lottery may seem analogous, but it isn't as simple as "you get tickets or you don't" because the supply and demand is different for each show. Sacramento might be more likely to come up with all tails, MSG all heads and Portland somewhere in between.

Yet my wife and I went 0/4 for Seattle and Philly while others hit all.

You say "yet" as if this outcome is unusual, but this is totally consistent with "some will get all, some will get some, some will get none." I don't mean to sound unsympathetic. I do sympathize with your bad luck today. I hope you have better luck on F2F, or in the general onsale if you go that route.

How is this system improved over the priority one? I can't think of any valid ways.

With the priority system I could almost guarantee winning tickets for a show if I put a lower demand show first. If I put a high demand show first, I knew I was gambling, but was ok with that

Did I say it was an improvement? I have not given any opinion on that. I'm just telling you that it worked out the way it would be expected to work out. That ends up being a boon for some people and a bane for others. Whether that's better or worse than alternative distribution systems is a different question.

It's definitely worse. I agree you'll have random combinations of results with this system, benefitting some and punishing others.

There's no perfect system and some will gripe that the previous way was better and others this way was better. Never going to satisfy anyone at any time.

PJNB · February 2024

BF25394 said:

tylermoore said:

BF25394 said:

tylermoore said:

scurtis said:

My bro in law and wives were trying to do Vegas but he got his email at like 10:30am this morning for both shows. I haven’t gotten a postive or a negative. But I’m not holding my breath.

It’s like they awarded to the individual, and whatever shows they selected, versus awarding for shows to many.

100%. All or nothing.

No, it's not. There are plenty of examples of people here who got some of the tickets they requested, but not all of them.

Some people got everything they requested. Some people got some of what they requested. Some people got none of what they requested. This is exactly what you would expect from a random drawing.

When there’s patterns it doesn’t seem like random. That’s all I’m saying. Too many people got both nights in a high demand city, while too many people got nothing. You have to admit that’s a fishy coincidence. Either way, you can’t argue this is a better system to get rid of the priority option. It allows for this to happen.

Humans tend to see patterns even in randomness. I think you're glossing over all of the people who have posted in this thread who have said that they got some of what they requested, but not all of what they requested. There's no fishy coincidence. There is a random distribution of outcomes.

Whether this system is better or worse is a separate topic that I was not opining on. I suspect that each system has its pluses and minuses.

I dont care how many times you do the lotto no one should ever win GA for for both Philly's and both Fenways on one account. The odds are insane for that to happen.

Lets say there are 400 winners for GA for Philly. 800 person pit. Sure there are singles out there but lets ignore that as it really does not change things too much.

Lets actually say only 5000 people put in for Philly GA/Res combo. I bet there were more.

400/5000

8% chance at getting GA for night 1.

Now the odds of hitting night 2 as well with those same above numbers. 0.08 x 0.08 =

0.64% chance at hitting night 1 and night 2 GA.

But wait there is more they also hit both Fenways. I think the Fenway pit is larger than Phillies but not sure by how much.

Lets say its 1500 so 750 wins since they are pairs. Lets keep 5000 as the total for how many people put in again.

750/5000= 0.15

So that gives us 0.08 x 0.08 x 0.15 x 0.15= 0.000144 or 0.0144% odds.

I was just talking with a friend and guess how many GA they got on one account. 9 pair out of 11 shows they put in for.

Want to do the math on that?

southp · February 2024

I’d like to see seniority used at least to get you one or two guaranteed show.

Something like this..

30+ years guaranteed 3 shows
20+ years 2 shows
10+ years 1 show

NewfieintheUSA · February 2024

PJNB said:

BF25394 said:

tylermoore said:

BF25394 said:

tylermoore said:

scurtis said:

My bro in law and wives were trying to do Vegas but he got his email at like 10:30am this morning for both shows. I haven’t gotten a postive or a negative. But I’m not holding my breath.

It’s like they awarded to the individual, and whatever shows they selected, versus awarding for shows to many.

100%. All or nothing.

No, it's not. There are plenty of examples of people here who got some of the tickets they requested, but not all of them.

Some people got everything they requested. Some people got some of what they requested. Some people got none of what they requested. This is exactly what you would expect from a random drawing.

When there’s patterns it doesn’t seem like random. That’s all I’m saying. Too many people got both nights in a high demand city, while too many people got nothing. You have to admit that’s a fishy coincidence. Either way, you can’t argue this is a better system to get rid of the priority option. It allows for this to happen.

Humans tend to see patterns even in randomness. I think you're glossing over all of the people who have posted in this thread who have said that they got some of what they requested, but not all of what they requested. There's no fishy coincidence. There is a random distribution of outcomes.

Whether this system is better or worse is a separate topic that I was not opining on. I suspect that each system has its pluses and minuses.

I dont care how many times you do the lotto no one should ever win GA for for both Philly's and both Fenways on one account. The odds are insane for that to happen.

Lets say there are 400 winners for GA for Philly. 800 person pit. Sure there are singles out there but lets ignore that as it really does not change things too much.

Lets actually say only 5000 people put in for Philly GA/Res combo. I bet there were more.

400/5000

8% chance at getting GA for night 1.

Now the odds of hitting night 2 as well with those same above numbers. 0.08 x 0.08 =

0.64% chance at hitting night 1 and night 2 GA.

But wait there is more they also hit both Fenways. I think the Fenway pit is larger than Phillies but not sure by how much.

Lets say its 1500 so 750 wins since they are pairs. Lets keep 5000 as the total for how many people put in again.

750/5000= 0.15

So that gives us 0.08 x 0.08 x 0.15 x 0.15= 0.000144 or 0.0144% odds.

I was just talking with a friend and guess how many GA they got on one account. 9 pair out of 11 shows they put in for.

Want to do the math on that?

Pretty fking low

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