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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    tylerj said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Hawk123 said:
    Concert tickets have been spiking in price every tour for most big acts, it’s not a gradual increase. I think it’s finally hit my tipping point where I can’t justify travelling to shows
    I get that the PJ 2022-shows were pre-covid and inflation 2020-priced. So there would be a hike in price.

    But I paid alooooot less for Rolling Stones in 2022, Taylor Swift this year and Bruce Springsteen last year. And those acts do not have the fan-friendly guise of Pearl Jam. I paid less to sit at the front row of a Bob Dylan show, and his crowd are well-off SAAB-driving intellectuals looking for a nice night out.
    Calling BS on getting Swift tickets for less than $170 unless you robbed someone 
    If you succeeded in the regular onsale, they were less than that. I have a friend (and fellow Ten Club member) who got face-value tickets to two of the L.A. Eras shows. The first was in the regular onsale; the second was in a ticket drop the week before the shows. The tickets were under $150.
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,576
    CrookedLittleVein said:
    I may have just missed it due to old man eyes - but I don't think I saw any mention that club seniority will be considered in the selection process. Is seniority still a thing?
    Yes - it's mentioned toward the end of the instructions 
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,000
    merlin401 said:
    Two Quick Questions:

    1)  If I try to register for tickets using BOTH methods, can I get stuck with two pairs of tickets to the same show?  I would have thought I should ONLY try for Tenclub tickets but I'm seeing people say register for both.  If you get tickets you're auto-charged no matter what methods it seems like.

    2) Any strategy if there's two nights in your city but you can only realistically attend one of them?  I can put in for surrounding cities too.  In the past I just put in for as many tickets as I could but at these prices I realistically only want to go to one show.  Tricky. 

    Thanks for any feedback!
    No you won't get two sets of tickets if you put in for both methods. You'll get one or the other...or possibly neither. 
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,914
    No priority also sounds challenging?  You're probably going to end up with fans that get tickets to a bunch of shows they wanted, while others get completely shutout.   In previous years that seemed to be more from glitches in the system or nuance in priority selection, but this would seem to be enhancing the issues that could result.

    Kind of seems like the power of 10c erodes a bit with each passing tour.   Some through how the tickets and lottery have been evolving.  I'm still not sure if Fan2Fan is a good thing or a bad thing.   It makes it easy to ditch tickets you can't use, but I think it makes people sign up for more tickets than they need, so the 10c members that actually use their tickets sit further back than normal (because people bought then tossed their tickets).  In addition PJ Premium also pushes seat locations further back.

    I'm hoping my instincts are correct and Vancouver show(s) when there is Seattle shows, tend to have lower demand.  Not like a Seattle concert or a concert in the much more densely populated East coast.


  • il vecchio
    il vecchio Posts: 143
    LizJ said:
    Are we sure that there is still early entry for 10c-members? Might have overlooked it. 
    I really do not see this anywhere, and I wonder really about this.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,576
    merlin401 said:
    Two Quick Questions:

    1)  If I try to register for tickets using BOTH methods, can I get stuck with two pairs of tickets to the same show?  I would have thought I should ONLY try for Tenclub tickets but I'm seeing people say register for both.  If you get tickets you're auto-charged no matter what methods it seems like.

    2) Any strategy if there's two nights in your city but you can only realistically attend one of them?  I can put in for surrounding cities too.  In the past I just put in for as many tickets as I could but at these prices I realistically only want to go to one show.  Tricky. 

    Thanks for any feedback!
    1) No. Verified fan will just send you a presale code and you will know whether you hit Ten Club tickets or not and whether you need/want to use it.

    2) If your 10C number is good, put in for both. Should be easy to unload the extra pair on TM if you hit both. If your 10C number is bad it's more gamble than strategy 
  • tylerj
    tylerj Indiana Posts: 368
    BF25394 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Hawk123 said:
    Concert tickets have been spiking in price every tour for most big acts, it’s not a gradual increase. I think it’s finally hit my tipping point where I can’t justify travelling to shows
    I get that the PJ 2022-shows were pre-covid and inflation 2020-priced. So there would be a hike in price.

    But I paid alooooot less for Rolling Stones in 2022, Taylor Swift this year and Bruce Springsteen last year. And those acts do not have the fan-friendly guise of Pearl Jam. I paid less to sit at the front row of a Bob Dylan show, and his crowd are well-off SAAB-driving intellectuals looking for a nice night out.
    Taylor Swift and Bruce Springsteen are pretty damned fan-friendly. Springsteen got roasted when he had Premium tickets because everyone expects his tickets to be affordable. And the only major artist more fan-friendly than Swift is probably Garth Brooks.
    Swift fan friendly? Maybe on face value tickets, but if she wanted to avoid young fans opening credit cards to afford tickets, she could implement nontransferable tickets and fan-to-fan. Wouldn't fix the crazy demand, but would avoid $3,000+ third market tickets. 
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  • BR223133
    BR223133 Posts: 89
    broe01 said:
    You guys actually think these prices are high?  They're really not.
    In America 2024, these tickets are still on the low end of pricing
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  • cheesemason
    cheesemason Posts: 25
    Request submitted. Going to get cramp in my fingers from keeping them crossed for the next few days 
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,016
    Vedd Hedd said:
    SVRDhand13 said:
    I can't even sign up for 10C tix:

    Bad Request - Request Too Long

    HTTP Error 400. The size of the request headers is too long.

    I was having this issue when my computer was slow.  I switched to a non-chrome browser and got through.  
    It worked through Safari

    Thanks everyone! 
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  • Hawk123
    Hawk123 Posts: 2,369
    BF25394 said:
    tylerj said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Hawk123 said:
    Concert tickets have been spiking in price every tour for most big acts, it’s not a gradual increase. I think it’s finally hit my tipping point where I can’t justify travelling to shows
    I get that the PJ 2022-shows were pre-covid and inflation 2020-priced. So there would be a hike in price.

    But I paid alooooot less for Rolling Stones in 2022, Taylor Swift this year and Bruce Springsteen last year. And those acts do not have the fan-friendly guise of Pearl Jam. I paid less to sit at the front row of a Bob Dylan show, and his crowd are well-off SAAB-driving intellectuals looking for a nice night out.
    Calling BS on getting Swift tickets for less than $170 unless you robbed someone 
    If you succeeded in the regular onsale, they were less than that. I have a friend (and fellow Ten Club member) who got face-value tickets to two of the L.A. Eras shows. The first was in the regular onsale; the second was in a ticket drop the week before the shows. The tickets were under $150.
    Exactly, just because they sell for crazy aftermarket prices doesn’t mean you can’t get in for $170. Not sure why but I think the equal pricing that PJ has worked well when the tickets were cheaper. If you had nosebleeds the thought was, oh well they aren’t that much. Now nosebleeds at these prices feels like you’re getting ripped off
  • il vecchio
    il vecchio Posts: 143
    pjl44 said:
    merlin401 said:
    Two Quick Questions:

    1)  If I try to register for tickets using BOTH methods, can I get stuck with two pairs of tickets to the same show?  I would have thought I should ONLY try for Tenclub tickets but I'm seeing people say register for both.  If you get tickets you're auto-charged no matter what methods it seems like.

    2) Any strategy if there's two nights in your city but you can only realistically attend one of them?  I can put in for surrounding cities too.  In the past I just put in for as many tickets as I could but at these prices I realistically only want to go to one show.  Tricky. 

    Thanks for any feedback!
    1) No. Verified fan will just send you a presale code and you will know whether you hit Ten Club tickets or not and whether you need/want to use it.

    2) If your 10C number is good, put in for both. Should be easy to unload the extra pair on TM if you hit both. If your 10C number is bad it's more gamble than strategy 

    pjl44 said:
    merlin401 said:
    Two Quick Questions:

    1)  If I try to register for tickets using BOTH methods, can I get stuck with two pairs of tickets to the same show?  I would have thought I should ONLY try for Tenclub tickets but I'm seeing people say register for both.  If you get tickets you're auto-charged no matter what methods it seems like.

    2) Any strategy if there's two nights in your city but you can only realistically attend one of them?  I can put in for surrounding cities too.  In the past I just put in for as many tickets as I could but at these prices I realistically only want to go to one show.  Tricky. 

    Thanks for any feedback!
    1) No. Verified fan will just send you a presale code and you will know whether you hit Ten Club tickets or not and whether you need/want to use it.

    2) If your 10C number is good, put in for both. Should be easy to unload the extra pair on TM if you hit both. If your 10C number is bad it's more gamble than strategy


    How do you know your 10c number is good, any threshold of numb er or year you know?
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,576
    edited February 2024
    Zod said:
    No priority also sounds challenging?  You're probably going to end up with fans that get tickets to a bunch of shows they wanted, while others get completely shutout.   In previous years that seemed to be more from glitches in the system or nuance in priority selection, but this would seem to be enhancing the issues that could result.

    Kind of seems like the power of 10c erodes a bit with each passing tour.   Some through how the tickets and lottery have been evolving.  I'm still not sure if Fan2Fan is a good thing or a bad thing.   It makes it easy to ditch tickets you can't use, but I think it makes people sign up for more tickets than they need, so the 10c members that actually use their tickets sit further back than normal (because people bought then tossed their tickets).  In addition PJ Premium also pushes seat locations further back.

    I'm hoping my instincts are correct and Vancouver show(s) when there is Seattle shows, tend to have lower demand.  Not like a Seattle concert or a concert in the much more densely populated East coast.


    I'm hoping that this is mitigated by:

    1) Announcing the full tour at once
    2) Ticket prices
    3) The lack of a GA only option

    But I will be inconsolable if I miss Fenway 10C tickets while watching people tap dance about hitting on 12 shows including Fenway 
  • BlueLedbetter
    BlueLedbetter Posts: 1,380
    Do the euro shows need different entries for each country or all done on one entry ?
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    il vecchio said:
    LizJ said:
    Are we sure that there is still early entry for 10c-members? Might have overlooked it. 
    I really do not see this anywhere, and I wonder really about this.
    GA in NA has early entry but everyone including fan to fan buyers are included and there is only one entry point so it really does not matter. 

    Europe is different with the whole floor being GA for some shows like Barcelona. If 10C GA tickets and public GA tickets are equal that is a huge change from the past. 
  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    BB24919 said:
    does seniority even matter anymore for seat selection? 
    Yes, for seated 10 Club tickets the seats are still based on seniority in the 10 Club.
  • il vecchio
    il vecchio Posts: 143
    PJNB said:
    il vecchio said:
    LizJ said:
    Are we sure that there is still early entry for 10c-members? Might have overlooked it. 
    I really do not see this anywhere, and I wonder really about this.
    GA in NA has early entry but everyone including fan to fan buyers are included and there is only one entry point so it really does not matter. 

    Europe is different with the whole floor being GA for some shows like Barcelona. If 10C GA tickets and public GA tickets are equal that is a huge change from the past. 
    exactly, and I see the specification of GA 10C early entry nowhere. While I remember it for the previous torus.- So this s crazy
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,576
    il vecchio said:
    pjl44 said:
    merlin401 said:
    Two Quick Questions:

    1)  If I try to register for tickets using BOTH methods, can I get stuck with two pairs of tickets to the same show?  I would have thought I should ONLY try for Tenclub tickets but I'm seeing people say register for both.  If you get tickets you're auto-charged no matter what methods it seems like.

    2) Any strategy if there's two nights in your city but you can only realistically attend one of them?  I can put in for surrounding cities too.  In the past I just put in for as many tickets as I could but at these prices I realistically only want to go to one show.  Tricky. 

    Thanks for any feedback!
    1) No. Verified fan will just send you a presale code and you will know whether you hit Ten Club tickets or not and whether you need/want to use it.

    2) If your 10C number is good, put in for both. Should be easy to unload the extra pair on TM if you hit both. If your 10C number is bad it's more gamble than strategy 

    pjl44 said:
    merlin401 said:
    Two Quick Questions:

    1)  If I try to register for tickets using BOTH methods, can I get stuck with two pairs of tickets to the same show?  I would have thought I should ONLY try for Tenclub tickets but I'm seeing people say register for both.  If you get tickets you're auto-charged no matter what methods it seems like.

    2) Any strategy if there's two nights in your city but you can only realistically attend one of them?  I can put in for surrounding cities too.  In the past I just put in for as many tickets as I could but at these prices I realistically only want to go to one show.  Tricky. 

    Thanks for any feedback!
    1) No. Verified fan will just send you a presale code and you will know whether you hit Ten Club tickets or not and whether you need/want to use it.

    2) If your 10C number is good, put in for both. Should be easy to unload the extra pair on TM if you hit both. If your 10C number is bad it's more gamble than strategy


    How do you know your 10c number is good, any threshold of numb er or year you know?
    Others may disagree but by number:

    Under 300xxx = Probably sell your tickets fine
    300xxx-500xxx = As long as demand is high you should be ok
    Over 500xxx = Really depends on your seats but risky 
  • il vecchio
    il vecchio Posts: 143
    pjl44 said:
    il vecchio said:
    pjl44 said:
    merlin401 said:
    Two Quick Questions:

    1)  If I try to register for tickets using BOTH methods, can I get stuck with two pairs of tickets to the same show?  I would have thought I should ONLY try for Tenclub tickets but I'm seeing people say register for both.  If you get tickets you're auto-charged no matter what methods it seems like.

    2) Any strategy if there's two nights in your city but you can only realistically attend one of them?  I can put in for surrounding cities too.  In the past I just put in for as many tickets as I could but at these prices I realistically only want to go to one show.  Tricky. 

    Thanks for any feedback!
    1) No. Verified fan will just send you a presale code and you will know whether you hit Ten Club tickets or not and whether you need/want to use it.

    2) If your 10C number is good, put in for both. Should be easy to unload the extra pair on TM if you hit both. If your 10C number is bad it's more gamble than strategy 

    pjl44 said:
    merlin401 said:
    Two Quick Questions:

    1)  If I try to register for tickets using BOTH methods, can I get stuck with two pairs of tickets to the same show?  I would have thought I should ONLY try for Tenclub tickets but I'm seeing people say register for both.  If you get tickets you're auto-charged no matter what methods it seems like.

    2) Any strategy if there's two nights in your city but you can only realistically attend one of them?  I can put in for surrounding cities too.  In the past I just put in for as many tickets as I could but at these prices I realistically only want to go to one show.  Tricky. 

    Thanks for any feedback!
    1) No. Verified fan will just send you a presale code and you will know whether you hit Ten Club tickets or not and whether you need/want to use it.

    2) If your 10C number is good, put in for both. Should be easy to unload the extra pair on TM if you hit both. If your 10C number is bad it's more gamble than strategy


    How do you know your 10c number is good, any threshold of numb er or year you know?
    Others may disagree but by number:

    Under 300xxx = Probably sell your tickets fine
    300xxx-500xxx = As long as demand is high you should be ok
    Over 500xxx = Really depends on your seats but risky 

    So the higher the membership number, the newer the member?
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,530
    edited February 2024
    Did we use this very system but with priorities in 2020?

    I have a hard time believing that they got rid of it because of "some fans didn't understand", and removed the social democracy balance of the system and instead made it so that someone now can get all shows, and someone get zero shows...

    It just seems like the fanclub tickets is turning into something they want to get rid off. Just like the single and other stuff. And doing it with less care. But maybe I am dumb. I don't understand why I have to go through a spanish ticketmaster site that doesn't wanna turn into english to get fanclub tickets, and I guess a german one for another show...

    WHAT HAPPENED WITH TENCLUB BEING A ONE STOP SHOP
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