Exclusive PJ listening party West Hollywood 1.31.24 - Confirmed DARK MATTER and wish I was there
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dwjmu84 said:
I suppose.on2legs said:
Hey… it could be worse. You could have the Juggler guy stalking you.dwjmu84 said:
I’m the worst kind of person for expressing an opinion and speculating that a certain feature of the album may not be to my liking? That’s mature.mshnayder said:
my god you are the worst kind of persondwjmu84 said:
Uhhh. That part during alive ISNT the chorus bub. It’s an extension they’ve cultivated while Mike solos. It’s awesome, but that’s not the vibe I get from this line in the article.spankyMP said:
I mean yeah, if you want to go all the way negative in the blink of an eye. If they mean the way fists get pumping and we all chant yeah during Alive and you don't want to hear it then there isn't much left to be said.dwjmu84 said:“One has a chorus particularly tailor-made for chanting and fist-pumping.“
ooof. Def not something I want to hear. Maybe this was ill phrased? I hope.I get, “you can’t dennnnyyy me” chanting and cowbell. That makes me want to vomit. I hope I’m wrong!Last I understood, this band and the community were all a part of as their following is supportive of free thinking and free speech.Nice to see you’re aligned with the band’s ideals.
what I’ve learned today is that this community has some really, really judgmental folks who are easily threatened when you express and opinion they don’t like. I’m glad I’ve never run into or conversed with any of them in 28 years of fandom and going to shows.Some of these dolts’ heads will explode when I give my opinions on the album after it’s released. I can’t wait to watch it 😂
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Pot meet kettle…dwjmu84 said:
Or here’s a thought. Learn how to read opinions that differ from yours and move on without internalizing. You seem very defensive/thin skinned.kmcmanus said:
Dude you’ve been peeing in everybody’s corn flakes in multiple threads all day. This is an exciting and happy day for most of us, maybe chill on the negative vibes for a second.dwjmu84 said:
I’m the worst kind of person for expressing an opinion and speculating that a certain feature of the album may not be to my liking? That’s mature.mshnayder said:
my god you are the worst kind of persondwjmu84 said:
Uhhh. That part during alive ISNT the chorus bub. It’s an extension they’ve cultivated while Mike solos. It’s awesome, but that’s not the vibe I get from this line in the article.spankyMP said:
I mean yeah, if you want to go all the way negative in the blink of an eye. If they mean the way fists get pumping and we all chant yeah during Alive and you don't want to hear it then there isn't much left to be said.dwjmu84 said:“One has a chorus particularly tailor-made for chanting and fist-pumping.“
ooof. Def not something I want to hear. Maybe this was ill phrased? I hope.I get, “you can’t dennnnyyy me” chanting and cowbell. That makes me want to vomit. I hope I’m wrong!Last I understood, this band and the community were all a part of as their following is supportive of free thinking and free speech.Nice to see you’re aligned with the band’s ideals.
You will get plenty of opportunities to complain about the album after you actually, y’know, hear it.It’s clear you didn’t carefully read my earlier post where I said, and I quote, “if the listening party DOES happen, then that’s great” (paraphrasing).
I’m going to leave it at that. If my opinions continue to ruffle your feathers than it’s obvious I’m living rent free in your head (and that’s not even my goal).
Hope the Dark Matter is amazing. If it’s got some weaknesses in my opinion (bc of course art is subjective) I will feel free to express that.Take care!0 -
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I feel you about the “you can’t deny me” I hope that’s not what we will get.dwjmu84 said:
Uhhh. That part during alive ISNT the chorus bub. It’s an extension they’ve cultivated while Mike solos. It’s awesome, but that’s not the vibe I get from this line in the article.spankyMP said:
I mean yeah, if you want to go all the way negative in the blink of an eye. If they mean the way fists get pumping and we all chant yeah during Alive and you don't want to hear it then there isn't much left to be said.dwjmu84 said:“One has a chorus particularly tailor-made for chanting and fist-pumping.“
ooof. Def not something I want to hear. Maybe this was ill phrased? I hope.I get, “you can’t dennnnyyy me” chanting and cowbell. That makes me want to vomit. I hope I’m wrong!I have no patience for bad music and stupid people...
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Album comes out in April. Not sure if that was already stated on one of the pages here.0
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Was this confirmed at listening party?artforbw said:Album comes out in April. Not sure if that was already stated on one of the pages here.0 -
Before or after tax season?artforbw said:Album comes out in April. Not sure if that was already stated on one of the pages here.0 -
Not even close. I did not take to defensiveness and judgement. Look how all these posters went after me when I simply expressed an opinion that triggered them. The difference between me calling that out and them initiating it is stark.BloodMeridian80 said:
Pot meet kettle…dwjmu84 said:
Or here’s a thought. Learn how to read opinions that differ from yours and move on without internalizing. You seem very defensive/thin skinned.kmcmanus said:
Dude you’ve been peeing in everybody’s corn flakes in multiple threads all day. This is an exciting and happy day for most of us, maybe chill on the negative vibes for a second.dwjmu84 said:
I’m the worst kind of person for expressing an opinion and speculating that a certain feature of the album may not be to my liking? That’s mature.mshnayder said:
my god you are the worst kind of persondwjmu84 said:
Uhhh. That part during alive ISNT the chorus bub. It’s an extension they’ve cultivated while Mike solos. It’s awesome, but that’s not the vibe I get from this line in the article.spankyMP said:
I mean yeah, if you want to go all the way negative in the blink of an eye. If they mean the way fists get pumping and we all chant yeah during Alive and you don't want to hear it then there isn't much left to be said.dwjmu84 said:“One has a chorus particularly tailor-made for chanting and fist-pumping.“
ooof. Def not something I want to hear. Maybe this was ill phrased? I hope.I get, “you can’t dennnnyyy me” chanting and cowbell. That makes me want to vomit. I hope I’m wrong!Last I understood, this band and the community were all a part of as their following is supportive of free thinking and free speech.Nice to see you’re aligned with the band’s ideals.
You will get plenty of opportunities to complain about the album after you actually, y’know, hear it.It’s clear you didn’t carefully read my earlier post where I said, and I quote, “if the listening party DOES happen, then that’s great” (paraphrasing).
I’m going to leave it at that. If my opinions continue to ruffle your feathers than it’s obvious I’m living rent free in your head (and that’s not even my goal).
Hope the Dark Matter is amazing. If it’s got some weaknesses in my opinion (bc of course art is subjective) I will feel free to express that.Take care!
Carry on.0 -
Yes. Exactly. Fingers crossed. I think the scrapped album from 18 that would have included CDM was an inflection point for the guys. They gave us something pretty decent instead (Gigaton). To me that record offered hope for a return to some of their best form. Here’s hoping Dark Matter actually gets us there (Yield, NC, Binaural esque).SOLAT319 said:
I feel you about the “you can’t deny me” I hope that’s not what we will get.dwjmu84 said:
Uhhh. That part during alive ISNT the chorus bub. It’s an extension they’ve cultivated while Mike solos. It’s awesome, but that’s not the vibe I get from this line in the article.spankyMP said:
I mean yeah, if you want to go all the way negative in the blink of an eye. If they mean the way fists get pumping and we all chant yeah during Alive and you don't want to hear it then there isn't much left to be said.dwjmu84 said:“One has a chorus particularly tailor-made for chanting and fist-pumping.“
ooof. Def not something I want to hear. Maybe this was ill phrased? I hope.I get, “you can’t dennnnyyy me” chanting and cowbell. That makes me want to vomit. I hope I’m wrong!0 -

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Do you think any of them “went after” you after you started the name calling and aggressive responses?dwjmu84 said:
Not even close. I did not take to defensiveness and judgement. Look how all these posters went after me when I simply expressed an opinion that triggered them. The difference between me calling that out and them initiating it is stark.BloodMeridian80 said:
Pot meet kettle…dwjmu84 said:
Or here’s a thought. Learn how to read opinions that differ from yours and move on without internalizing. You seem very defensive/thin skinned.kmcmanus said:
Dude you’ve been peeing in everybody’s corn flakes in multiple threads all day. This is an exciting and happy day for most of us, maybe chill on the negative vibes for a second.dwjmu84 said:
I’m the worst kind of person for expressing an opinion and speculating that a certain feature of the album may not be to my liking? That’s mature.mshnayder said:
my god you are the worst kind of persondwjmu84 said:
Uhhh. That part during alive ISNT the chorus bub. It’s an extension they’ve cultivated while Mike solos. It’s awesome, but that’s not the vibe I get from this line in the article.spankyMP said:
I mean yeah, if you want to go all the way negative in the blink of an eye. If they mean the way fists get pumping and we all chant yeah during Alive and you don't want to hear it then there isn't much left to be said.dwjmu84 said:“One has a chorus particularly tailor-made for chanting and fist-pumping.“
ooof. Def not something I want to hear. Maybe this was ill phrased? I hope.I get, “you can’t dennnnyyy me” chanting and cowbell. That makes me want to vomit. I hope I’m wrong!Last I understood, this band and the community were all a part of as their following is supportive of free thinking and free speech.Nice to see you’re aligned with the band’s ideals.
You will get plenty of opportunities to complain about the album after you actually, y’know, hear it.It’s clear you didn’t carefully read my earlier post where I said, and I quote, “if the listening party DOES happen, then that’s great” (paraphrasing).
I’m going to leave it at that. If my opinions continue to ruffle your feathers than it’s obvious I’m living rent free in your head (and that’s not even my goal).
Hope the Dark Matter is amazing. If it’s got some weaknesses in my opinion (bc of course art is subjective) I will feel free to express that.Take care!
Carry on.
I don’t think your opinion or over the top negativity got you in any hot water, I think it was your tone in response to others disagreeing or attempting to dampen your negativity that did it.Randall's Island 9/29/96, Continental Arena 9/8/98, MSG 9/10/98, Jones Beach 8/23/00, 8/24/00, 8/25/00, Nassau Coliseum 4/30/03, MSG 7/8/03, 7/9/03, Continental Arena 6/1/06, 6/3/06, MSG 6/24/08, 6/25/08, Spectrum 10/30/09, 10/31/09, MSG 5/20/10, 5/21/10, PJ20 9/3/11, 9/4/11, Charlottesville 10/29/13, Charlotte 10/30/13, Global Citizen 9/26/15, Raleigh 4/20/16 Baltimore 3/28/20 Austin 9/18/23, 9/19/23, Forum 5/21/24, Baltimore 9/12/24, Fenway 9/17/24, Nashville 5/6/25, 5/8/250 -
I'm excited for the drums eh. PJ is not Soundgarden but they have a beast in that engine room who has probably been kept on a leash for that reason. But if they've evolved and/or found a way to incorporate Matt's prog DNA and be rocking as fuck ooh that gets me excited. All the gushing about Matt is really from his Soundgarden work (I don't see any interviews asking about Evacuation TTLW You Are etc) so I'd love for there to be a Pearl Jam album that blows everyone away by bringing focus to it.
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Revisionist history. Go back and read again. From the very moment I doubted that the album was going to be played (and I was wrong but also said I could see how that was a possibility), people in the thread painted me as negative, told me “not to take them down with them” etc. I mean what kind of childish hyperbole is that? So I expressed an opinion that causes some unease and cognitive dissonance in their heads. Grow up folks. It’s like they were little kids who didn’t want to hear that Santa is not real. Sure, in the end those who guessed (bc there was no confirmation mind you) that the record would be played today were right. It’s akin to heads/tails. Binary outcome. But they were emotionally invested in the outcome, whereas I was not. My assessment of the likelihood it would be played was purely based on evidence (or lack thereof).spankyMP said:
Do you think any of them “went after” you after you started the name calling and aggressive responses?dwjmu84 said:
Not even close. I did not take to defensiveness and judgement. Look how all these posters went after me when I simply expressed an opinion that triggered them. The difference between me calling that out and them initiating it is stark.BloodMeridian80 said:
Pot meet kettle…dwjmu84 said:
Or here’s a thought. Learn how to read opinions that differ from yours and move on without internalizing. You seem very defensive/thin skinned.kmcmanus said:
Dude you’ve been peeing in everybody’s corn flakes in multiple threads all day. This is an exciting and happy day for most of us, maybe chill on the negative vibes for a second.dwjmu84 said:
I’m the worst kind of person for expressing an opinion and speculating that a certain feature of the album may not be to my liking? That’s mature.mshnayder said:
my god you are the worst kind of persondwjmu84 said:
Uhhh. That part during alive ISNT the chorus bub. It’s an extension they’ve cultivated while Mike solos. It’s awesome, but that’s not the vibe I get from this line in the article.spankyMP said:
I mean yeah, if you want to go all the way negative in the blink of an eye. If they mean the way fists get pumping and we all chant yeah during Alive and you don't want to hear it then there isn't much left to be said.dwjmu84 said:“One has a chorus particularly tailor-made for chanting and fist-pumping.“
ooof. Def not something I want to hear. Maybe this was ill phrased? I hope.I get, “you can’t dennnnyyy me” chanting and cowbell. That makes me want to vomit. I hope I’m wrong!Last I understood, this band and the community were all a part of as their following is supportive of free thinking and free speech.Nice to see you’re aligned with the band’s ideals.
You will get plenty of opportunities to complain about the album after you actually, y’know, hear it.It’s clear you didn’t carefully read my earlier post where I said, and I quote, “if the listening party DOES happen, then that’s great” (paraphrasing).
I’m going to leave it at that. If my opinions continue to ruffle your feathers than it’s obvious I’m living rent free in your head (and that’s not even my goal).
Hope the Dark Matter is amazing. If it’s got some weaknesses in my opinion (bc of course art is subjective) I will feel free to express that.Take care!
Carry on.
I don’t think your opinion or over the top negativity got you in any hot water, I think it was your tone in response to others disagreeing or attempting to dampen your negativity that did it.Hey, I am glad I was wrong on the call. This was kept well under wraps and only one flyer with few details slipped out on the socials, but it easily could have been a fake. That’s the info we all had. Can’t blame me for being skeptical, though apparently here that’s frowned upon.0 -
April 5th has been the date floating around for a while now.artforbw said:Album comes out in April. Not sure if that was already stated on one of the pages here.Summerfest 7/8/95
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I'm less excited now.deb1211 said:I'm so excited for this album
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Dang, this thread is a dumpster fire. Someone stop.
On a completely unrelated note, this album sounds like something I am going to love. Can't wait.1991- Hollywood Palladium, California with Temple of the Dog, Soundgarden, and Alice in Chains -RIP Magazine Show Oct. 6th
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Yeah, can't escape petty bickering even when there's something exciting to talk about. I'm pumped to hear this album. I like the name floating around. Hoping for some solid rockers and moody midtempo jams.lexicondevil said:Dang, this thread is a dumpster fire. Someone stop.
On a completely unrelated note, this album sounds like something I am going to love. Can't wait.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
Agree on both countslexicondevil said:Dang, this thread is a dumpster fire. Someone stop.
On a completely unrelated note, this album sounds like something I am going to love. Can't wait.0 -
cancel the album. No one is happy. No tour. Straight to bed.0
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