Tipping Culture Where You Live

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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mace1229 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    What would happen if you didn't tip? Would you be frowned upon?
    Seems like a lot of extra expenses on top of already expensive things.
    more than frowned upon, a restaurant will almost see it as skipping out on part of the bill unless you justify it.
    If I've had horrible service, I'll tip maybe $1 just to show I didn't forget to add it. That is rare, can only think of twice where that has happened.
    One time I did actually just forget, and the manager followed me out into the parking lot to ask me why I didn't tip. I felt so bad, and stupid. But his demeanor was more irritated with me like I was skipping out, more than asking what was wrong with the service. He was sort of right, but it was an accident. 
    that is unbelievable to me. he followed you out of the restaurant to ask why you didn't tip? beyond fucking rude. a tip is optional, not an obligation. 

    why on earth would you have to justify it? that's absurd. the culture in the US is even more entitled than it is here. wow. 
    A tip is expected. It's viewed as skipping out on part of the bill. I would never not tip unless it was blindly obvious why.
    We were at a restaurant a couple years ago with a small group of friends. After placing our order our server disappeared for 90 minutes. No one would even make eye contact with us. I had to get up, ask for a manager to see what was going on. Apparently the server was brand new and had a nervous break down and walked out, even though it was a slow weeknight and we were currently his only table, and they were waiting for him to calm down and come back. I told the manager to just bring the food herself. She did, but it was cold, like it had been sitting on the counter for an hour and half.
    We didn't tip. I didn't even want to pay the full bill but my wife's friends insisted we did. But I didn't feel the need to explain why there was no tip.
    The weird thing was it was a slow night, I don't know why no one just brought us the food and said the other guy was on break. Unless they didn't realize he just left until our food was already cold and no one wanted to deal with it. It was so weird.

    They shouldn't call it a tip or gratuity, because it isn't. Call it a cover charge or server fee or something.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,778
    Service would have to be really bad for me to leave no tip at all. 

    Typically if the service sucks, I'll leave only a 5 or 10% tip (& try to pass a remark to the host / hostess / manager on my way out explaining why my tip was as bad as it was). 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,811
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mace1229 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    What would happen if you didn't tip? Would you be frowned upon?
    Seems like a lot of extra expenses on top of already expensive things.
    more than frowned upon, a restaurant will almost see it as skipping out on part of the bill unless you justify it.
    If I've had horrible service, I'll tip maybe $1 just to show I didn't forget to add it. That is rare, can only think of twice where that has happened.
    One time I did actually just forget, and the manager followed me out into the parking lot to ask me why I didn't tip. I felt so bad, and stupid. But his demeanor was more irritated with me like I was skipping out, more than asking what was wrong with the service. He was sort of right, but it was an accident. 
    that is unbelievable to me. he followed you out of the restaurant to ask why you didn't tip? beyond fucking rude. a tip is optional, not an obligation. 

    why on earth would you have to justify it? that's absurd. the culture in the US is even more entitled than it is here. wow. 
    A tip is expected. It's viewed as skipping out on part of the bill. I would never not tip unless it was blindly obvious why.
    We were at a restaurant a couple years ago with a small group of friends. After placing our order our server disappeared for 90 minutes. No one would even make eye contact with us. I had to get up, ask for a manager to see what was going on. Apparently the server was brand new and had a nervous break down and walked out, even though it was a slow weeknight and we were currently his only table, and they were waiting for him to calm down and come back. I told the manager to just bring the food herself. She did, but it was cold, like it had been sitting on the counter for an hour and half.
    We didn't tip. I didn't even want to pay the full bill but my wife's friends insisted we did. But I didn't feel the need to explain why there was no tip.
    The weird thing was it was a slow night, I don't know why no one just brought us the food and said the other guy was on break. Unless they didn't realize he just left until our food was already cold and no one wanted to deal with it. It was so weird.

    They shouldn't call it a tip or gratuity, because it isn't. Call it a cover charge or server fee or something.
    Yeah, they do call it a Service Fee on the larger parties when automatically added.  (At least, where I see it,generally.)
    The few times I ve not tipped or tipped very low amounts it had to do with awful service as well.

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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,896
    Just remember if you come to the UK. Don't tip save your money things are expensive enough and nobody expects a tip anywhere.


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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    lastexitlondon said:
    Just remember if you come to the UK. Don't tip save your money things are expensive enough and nobody expects a tip anywhere.
    When I was in Italy about 10 years ago, we didn't tip. But some of the restaurants had a cover charge of $3 or $5 a person. That system makes more sense. What I've never understood about our tipping practices is I can go to dinner, order a $10 hamburger and water. My friend can join me at the same table, order a $20 dinner plate and 2 beers. I'm expected to tip $2 and he's going to tip about $8, but we received the exact same service. 
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,896
    Honestly it all confuses me. I get if you want to give to a low paid worker but it should be IF you want to not expected. Oh well each to their own 


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    restaurants have a 15% gratuity automatically added to the bill of parties of 6 or 8 (depending on place) or more. even that is stupid to me (and many others here). that just invites the ability for the service to suck. if they're already getting a tip, why try? and I've actually come across this many times. I hate going out in big groups. The service, unless it's at a very high end place, generally sucks in big groups. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    so yes, I understand that in some states servers make less than minimum wage. Which is beyond absurd. the word minimum means nothing in that context. lol. but the onus to pay someone a living wage shouldn't be on the customer. it should be on the business. labour laws should be changed to reflect this. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    lastexitlondon said:
    Honestly it all confuses me. I get if you want to give to a low paid worker but it should be IF you want to not expected. Oh well each to their own 
    Do you tip in the UK? I haven't been to the UK since 2004 and I honestly don't remember
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,896
    mcgruff10 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Honestly it all confuses me. I get if you want to give to a low paid worker but it should be IF you want to not expected. Oh well each to their own 
    Do you tip in the UK? I haven't been to the UK since 2004 and I honestly don't remember
    No never. I guess some might tip a waitress but I've never seen many . So I would say it's not done really. 


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    I only eat out if I'm with my wife.  She loves it, I'm wary of restaurant food.  So she pays and I leave it to her to decide what to tip.  I don't know what percentage she uses, but I know she's fairly generous.  But she has no set percentage- she bases her tip on quality of service.  That can even mean no tip (that's very rare- it has to be terrible service).  The better the service, the higher the tip.  Makes sense to me.
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,220
    https://nypost.com/2023/11/01/business/doordash-not-tipping-driver-will-result-in-longer-wait-for-food/
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    When everyone goes out to eat do you:
    1. Tip based on the total bill
    2. Tip based on the bill before taxes 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,778
    edited November 2023
    nicknyr15 said:
    https://nypost.com/2023/11/01/business/doordash-not-tipping-driver-will-result-in-longer-wait-for-food/
    I never used these services as I was under the impression it somehow hurt the restaurant's bottom line. My wife uses it more than I like, but you know how that goes. 

    mcgruff10 said:
    When everyone goes out to eat do you:
    1. Tip based on the total bill
    2. Tip based on the bill before taxes 
    I typically do 20% of the bill before taxes, and add another few bucks on top of whatever that total ends up being. (depending on the overall amount and the quality of service) 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    mcgruff10 said:
    When everyone goes out to eat do you:
    1. Tip based on the total bill
    2. Tip based on the bill before taxes 
    I usually do 20% before tax. I don’t feel the need to tip a server on what I pay in taxes.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    mcgruff10 said:
    When everyone goes out to eat do you:
    1. Tip based on the total bill
    2. Tip based on the bill before taxes 
    before tax
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,811
    Whatever the final bill is, take 20% of that and add to it based on how good they were at the basic of their job (pleasant, accommodating, knowledgeable and/or willing to find out answers to any questions we may have, and if they keep the happy oils flowing)
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,076
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mace1229 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    What would happen if you didn't tip? Would you be frowned upon?
    Seems like a lot of extra expenses on top of already expensive things.
    more than frowned upon, a restaurant will almost see it as skipping out on part of the bill unless you justify it.
    If I've had horrible service, I'll tip maybe $1 just to show I didn't forget to add it. That is rare, can only think of twice where that has happened.
    One time I did actually just forget, and the manager followed me out into the parking lot to ask me why I didn't tip. I felt so bad, and stupid. But his demeanor was more irritated with me like I was skipping out, more than asking what was wrong with the service. He was sort of right, but it was an accident. 
    that is unbelievable to me. he followed you out of the restaurant to ask why you didn't tip? beyond fucking rude. a tip is optional, not an obligation. 

    why on earth would you have to justify it? that's absurd. the culture in the US is even more entitled than it is here. wow. 
    Servers can make as little as $2.00 an hour without tips.  It's not entitlement, it's how they make their wage.  It's been that way here forever.  For some reason a long time ago it was decided that customers would subsidize the restaurant serving staff payroll and business would only be liable for the taxes.   In certain places like Washington state or wherever if I know servers are making $9 an hour or more, I will tip less, but for the most part here in the US it is the price of eating at a sit down restaurant.
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,901
    I tend to do 15 to 18% of the bill after taxes.   I do loathe how tipping culture is spreading like wildfire.   With digital payments, it's getting built into to so many payment terminals.  I was caught off guard last year at the Oakland PJ shows where the digital payment prompted for a tip.  I tipped, but I'm a lightweight merch customer.  XL shirt a a poster please.    Why am I tipping to just buy a thing that took 30 seconds.. sigh.

    I think the out of control tipping is causing me not to tip now.  I've gone back to tipping for what I tipped for a few years ago.   Restaurants, and food delivery to my house (like pizza or skipthedishes).   I'm not tipping at subway, concert merch, etc..  The payment systems make me feel guilty for not tipping, but the tipping overload is a complete turnoff.. I don't want to have to add 15 to 20% on everything I buy.. it's getting ridiculous.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    mcgruff10 said:
    When everyone goes out to eat do you:
    1. Tip based on the total bill
    2. Tip based on the bill before taxes 

    Before taxes.  At least that's what I'm told is the thing to do.  Would be go to know though if that is not de rigueur.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

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