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  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,211
    Get_Right said:
    Just enjoy the rock concert. 
    Bingo, there's a lot of 'expert' opinion on what the band should and shouldn't do these days. They know the show they want to play and people are turning up in their droves to see it. I dare say 32 years into their touring lives they have pretty much got a good formula by this stage. 

    Roll on 2024, I'll take whatever I can get
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,107
    pdalowsky said:
    Get_Right said:
    Just enjoy the rock concert. 
    Bingo, there's a lot of 'expert' opinion on what the band should and shouldn't do these days. They know the show they want to play and people are turning up in their droves to see it. I dare say 32 years into their touring lives they have pretty much got a good formula by this stage. 

    Roll on 2024, I'll take whatever I can get

    Every time I start to think they mail it in, I see a show like Camden. I keep saying it, but when Ed and the band are playing live, there is really no other place on the planet I would rather be.
  • eboweddie
    eboweddie Posts: 1,089
    Enjoy them while they are here. 

    i wish i wish i wish i wish, i guess it never stops
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    3 shows
    60 different songs played
    with a handful a repeats each night

    6 shows left
    Will they keep this up through the whole tour?

  • kmcmanus
    kmcmanus Posts: 892
    edited September 2023
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    kmcmanus said:
    Of course some of the taking is long & ramble-y on purpose so the other guys can catch their breath…
    Why do people, like you, say it's so the other members can catch a breath -- and not that it's for himself. 
    Because we all know it’s for him too? I never said it wasn’t him, I said it’s not only him.
    Also, ”people like you” is an interesting (and very assumptive) statement from a person who’s never met me.
    Post edited by kmcmanus on
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,750
    edited September 2023
    You'll never convince me that shorter set lists are better, and their peak for me will always be 2013 - 2016... having said that, I had zero problems w/ 24 songs each night in St Paul. The shows were awesome and if shorter sets means they can tour more in the coming years, I'm all for it. 
  • elvistheking44
    elvistheking44 Posts: 4,540
    Last nights show length was perfect.
  • mikeliska
    mikeliska Posts: 253
    Yeah it was.  Maybe it's because it was a Tuesday night after a long weekend and maybe it's because I'm getting old but 2:30 and getting out before midnight was great.  Still a little slow this morning, however.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,107
    Merkin Baller said:
    You'll never convince me that shorter set lists are better, and their peak for me will always be 2013 - 2016... having said that, I had zero problems w/ 24 songs each night in St Paul. The shows were awesome and if shorter sets means they can tour more in the coming years, I'm all for it. 


    Nah the peak was 1998-2003. Some might say it was earlier. Just glad they still play.

  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,750
    Get_Right said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    You'll never convince me that shorter set lists are better, and their peak for me will always be 2013 - 2016... having said that, I had zero problems w/ 24 songs each night in St Paul. The shows were awesome and if shorter sets means they can tour more in the coming years, I'm all for it. 


    Nah the peak was 1998-2003. Some might say it was earlier. Just glad they still play.

    The shows I saw between '98 & '00 must have been aberrations then, because they were nothing compared to what I saw them do between '13 & '16. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,437
    I imagine the peak must have been 1995 playing with Neil Young. 

    Occam's razor people.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,107
    Merkin Baller said:
    Get_Right said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    You'll never convince me that shorter set lists are better, and their peak for me will always be 2013 - 2016... having said that, I had zero problems w/ 24 songs each night in St Paul. The shows were awesome and if shorter sets means they can tour more in the coming years, I'm all for it. 


    Nah the peak was 1998-2003. Some might say it was earlier. Just glad they still play.

    The shows I saw between '98 & '00 must have been aberrations then, because they were nothing compared to what I saw them do between '13 & '16. 


    A bit more polished and organized yes. But the 2000 and 2003 tours were my favorites. And to be fair, they blew me away again in Camden 2022.
  • Franklin Delano Bluth
    Franklin Delano Bluth Posts: 541
    You’ll see a 3+hour set if there’s not an opening act. Any show with an opener you can expect a 2-2:15 min set.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,107
    Franklin Delano Bluth said:
    You’ll see a 3+hour set if there’s not an opening act. Any show with an opener you can expect a 2-2:15 min set.

    I think that has changed. A 3 hr set will be a rarity now. 
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Franklin Delano Bluth said:
    You’ll see a 3+hour set if there’s not an opening act. Any show with an opener you can expect a 2-2:15 min set.
    They have had plenty of openers in the LB tour and still did 3hrs. Openers is not the issue imo
  • mccartyk25
    mccartyk25 Posts: 74
    Get_Right said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Get_Right said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    You'll never convince me that shorter set lists are better, and their peak for me will always be 2013 - 2016... having said that, I had zero problems w/ 24 songs each night in St Paul. The shows were awesome and if shorter sets means they can tour more in the coming years, I'm all for it. 


    Nah the peak was 1998-2003. Some might say it was earlier. Just glad they still play.

    The shows I saw between '98 & '00 must have been aberrations then, because they were nothing compared to what I saw them do between '13 & '16. 


    A bit more polished and organized yes. But the 2000 and 2003 tours were my favorites. And to be fair, they blew me away again in Camden 2022.
    Hoping Indy is the Camden of 2023!
  • kmcmanus
    kmcmanus Posts: 892
    Get_Right said:
    Franklin Delano Bluth said:
    You’ll see a 3+hour set if there’s not an opening act. Any show with an opener you can expect a 2-2:15 min set.

    I think that has changed. A 3 hr set will be a rarity now. 
    The change is that they will always book an opener now
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,107
    kmcmanus said:
    Get_Right said:
    Franklin Delano Bluth said:
    You’ll see a 3+hour set if there’s not an opening act. Any show with an opener you can expect a 2-2:15 min set.

    I think that has changed. A 3 hr set will be a rarity now. 
    The change is that they will always book an opener now

    They have had lots of openers. I guess, without knowing, that Taylor Hawkins death had something to do with the shorter sets. 100% speculation.

  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,750
    Get_Right said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Get_Right said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    You'll never convince me that shorter set lists are better, and their peak for me will always be 2013 - 2016... having said that, I had zero problems w/ 24 songs each night in St Paul. The shows were awesome and if shorter sets means they can tour more in the coming years, I'm all for it. 


    Nah the peak was 1998-2003. Some might say it was earlier. Just glad they still play.

    The shows I saw between '98 & '00 must have been aberrations then, because they were nothing compared to what I saw them do between '13 & '16. 


    A bit more polished and organized yes. But the 2000 and 2003 tours were my favorites. And to be fair, they blew me away again in Camden 2022.
    More polished, and organized, yes, and also better. There's no comparing what I saw 10 years ago with what I saw in the era you mentioned. 

    To each his own, It's all subjective of course, but I'll take a 2013 show over pretty much any other year I've seen them.

    & yeah, the two shows in St Paul last week did nothing to dissuade me from trying to see them again. The show may only be 75% as long as what I considered to be their peak, but they were fantastic nonetheless. 

    (& In fairness, they might have been a better live act in '92 or '94, I have no frame of reference... '98 was the first time I saw them) 
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,107
    Merkin Baller said:
    Get_Right said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Get_Right said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    You'll never convince me that shorter set lists are better, and their peak for me will always be 2013 - 2016... having said that, I had zero problems w/ 24 songs each night in St Paul. The shows were awesome and if shorter sets means they can tour more in the coming years, I'm all for it. 


    Nah the peak was 1998-2003. Some might say it was earlier. Just glad they still play.

    The shows I saw between '98 & '00 must have been aberrations then, because they were nothing compared to what I saw them do between '13 & '16. 


    A bit more polished and organized yes. But the 2000 and 2003 tours were my favorites. And to be fair, they blew me away again in Camden 2022.
    More polished, and organized, yes, and also better. There's no comparing what I saw 10 years ago with what I saw in the era you mentioned. 

    To each his own, It's all subjective of course, but I'll take a 2013 show over pretty much any other year I've seen them.

    & yeah, the two shows in St Paul last week did nothing to dissuade me from trying to see them again. The show may only be 75% as long as what I considered to be their peak, but they were fantastic nonetheless. 

    (& In fairness, they might have been a better live act in '92 or '94, I have no frame of reference... '98 was the first time I saw them) 


    All good. It's a rock concert! Jump around and have fun!

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