Hunter Biden Laptop Controversy

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,196
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

    What isn't debunked is why did Biden not sanction Baturina when he sanctioned other Russian oligarchs?
    Please, do tell. With links, please, seeing how you have the hottest and latest news fresh off the presses. Connect them dots. You like dots, don’t you?
    It's a fair question to ask. I don't have the slightest clue but if we're going after Russian oligarchs and we skip over a couple of them, we should be asking why that happened. Can you agree that is an acceptable question?
    Maybe because she doesn’t fall into one or more of the sanctioned categories as described here? Careful, it’s over a year old.

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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Is this what McCarthy tweeted? I don’t have an account so I can’t read threads on there. 

    just a screen shot.... no source provided by link or otherwise.
    I mean in another forum someone posted his intro tweet. I’m guessing this might be what he tweeted. 
    If I had to guess, it’s from a gym Jordan release of portions of testimony and nowhere near a full transcript of testimony nor of questioning by repubs or dems. I wouldn’t even bet money that the bullets are the full answer or testimony. Context, you know? Without a link, JB just further erodes what little credibility they have, if there’s anything left. Hell, as far as I know, JB just typed shit up.
    It's funny because no one else is asked to provide links to all the crazy bullshit you all come up with($2 billion from the Saudis.... wah wah wah). 

    There are two views looking at this and this was the main points from the right just as there is plenty of talk about what the left heard yesterday. Go ahead and read what I posted. It doesn't change anything and it doesn't prove any laws were broken so even if I provided a link, it won't change a thing.

    We already know that Joe is a liar and that of course he spoke with his son about business dealings. Joe also told us that Hunter didn't make money in China yet Hunter had to tell us the truth that he did make plenty of money from China.

    I do believe that the Biden's are corrupt, as I believe most politicians are, but without solid proof that laws were broken, there's nothing that can be done. This isn't the first one of Hunter's business associates that have given testimony so this is all stuff we already knew.
    what's that about personal comments?
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Is this what McCarthy tweeted? I don’t have an account so I can’t read threads on there. 

    just a screen shot.... no source provided by link or otherwise.
    I mean in another forum someone posted his intro tweet. I’m guessing this might be what he tweeted. 
    If I had to guess, it’s from a gym Jordan release of portions of testimony and nowhere near a full transcript of testimony nor of questioning by repubs or dems. I wouldn’t even bet money that the bullets are the full answer or testimony. Context, you know? Without a link, JB just further erodes what little credibility they have, if there’s anything left. Hell, as far as I know, JB just typed shit up.
    It's funny because no one else is asked to provide links to all the crazy bullshit you all come up with($2 billion from the Saudis.... wah wah wah). 

    There are two views looking at this and this was the main points from the right just as there is plenty of talk about what the left heard yesterday. Go ahead and read what I posted. It doesn't change anything and it doesn't prove any laws were broken so even if I provided a link, it won't change a thing.

    We already know that Joe is a liar and that of course he spoke with his son about business dealings. Joe also told us that Hunter didn't make money in China yet Hunter had to tell us the truth that he did make plenty of money from China.

    I do believe that the Biden's are corrupt, as I believe most politicians are, but without solid proof that laws were broken, there's nothing that can be done. This isn't the first one of Hunter's business associates that have given testimony so this is all stuff we already knew.
    what's that about personal comments?
    There's a big difference here. That wasn't my only comment. When you're only comment is calling someone a name or saying their in a cult, that is ONLY to make it personal. 
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

    What isn't debunked is why did Biden not sanction Baturina when he sanctioned other Russian oligarchs?
    Please, do tell. With links, please, seeing how you have the hottest and latest news fresh off the presses. Connect them dots. You like dots, don’t you?
    It's a fair question to ask. I don't have the slightest clue but if we're going after Russian oligarchs and we skip over a couple of them, we should be asking why that happened. Can you agree that is an acceptable question?
    Maybe because she doesn’t fall into one or more of the sanctioned categories as described here? Careful, it’s over a year old.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/02/list-of-sanctioned-russian-oligarchs-businesses-00049301
    Russia's richest woman doesn't deserve sanctions.... Yeah OK
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

    What isn't debunked is why did Biden not sanction Baturina when he sanctioned other Russian oligarchs?
    Please, do tell. With links, please, seeing how you have the hottest and latest news fresh off the presses. Connect them dots. You like dots, don’t you?
    It's a fair question to ask. I don't have the slightest clue but if we're going after Russian oligarchs and we skip over a couple of them, we should be asking why that happened. Can you agree that is an acceptable question?
    Maybe because she doesn’t fall into one or more of the sanctioned categories as described here? Careful, it’s over a year old.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/02/list-of-sanctioned-russian-oligarchs-businesses-00049301
    Vladimir Yevtushenkov is a Russian oligarch but he was skipped over on the sanctions as well..... why?
  • HughFreakingDillon
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    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Is this what McCarthy tweeted? I don’t have an account so I can’t read threads on there. 

    just a screen shot.... no source provided by link or otherwise.
    I mean in another forum someone posted his intro tweet. I’m guessing this might be what he tweeted. 
    If I had to guess, it’s from a gym Jordan release of portions of testimony and nowhere near a full transcript of testimony nor of questioning by repubs or dems. I wouldn’t even bet money that the bullets are the full answer or testimony. Context, you know? Without a link, JB just further erodes what little credibility they have, if there’s anything left. Hell, as far as I know, JB just typed shit up.
    It's funny because no one else is asked to provide links to all the crazy bullshit you all come up with($2 billion from the Saudis.... wah wah wah). 

    There are two views looking at this and this was the main points from the right just as there is plenty of talk about what the left heard yesterday. Go ahead and read what I posted. It doesn't change anything and it doesn't prove any laws were broken so even if I provided a link, it won't change a thing.

    We already know that Joe is a liar and that of course he spoke with his son about business dealings. Joe also told us that Hunter didn't make money in China yet Hunter had to tell us the truth that he did make plenty of money from China.

    I do believe that the Biden's are corrupt, as I believe most politicians are, but without solid proof that laws were broken, there's nothing that can be done. This isn't the first one of Hunter's business associates that have given testimony so this is all stuff we already knew.
    what's that about personal comments?
    There's a big difference here. That wasn't my only comment. When you're only comment is calling someone a name or saying their in a cult, that is ONLY to make it personal. 
    LMAO
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,196
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

    What isn't debunked is why did Biden not sanction Baturina when he sanctioned other Russian oligarchs?
    Please, do tell. With links, please, seeing how you have the hottest and latest news fresh off the presses. Connect them dots. You like dots, don’t you?
    It's a fair question to ask. I don't have the slightest clue but if we're going after Russian oligarchs and we skip over a couple of them, we should be asking why that happened. Can you agree that is an acceptable question?
    Maybe because she doesn’t fall into one or more of the sanctioned categories as described here? Careful, it’s over a year old.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/02/list-of-sanctioned-russian-oligarchs-businesses-00049301
    Vladimir Yevtushenkov is a Russian oligarch but he was skipped over on the sanctions as well..... why?
    Because the Brandon Crime Family told the DOJ and Treasury, hands off in exchange for millions of dollars. They also told the IRS they couldn’t release their taxes because they’re under audit and it’s personal information. That’s why. Everybody knows that.
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  • mrussel1
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    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

    What isn't debunked is why did Biden not sanction Baturina when he sanctioned other Russian oligarchs?
    Please, do tell. With links, please, seeing how you have the hottest and latest news fresh off the presses. Connect them dots. You like dots, don’t you?
    It's a fair question to ask. I don't have the slightest clue but if we're going after Russian oligarchs and we skip over a couple of them, we should be asking why that happened. Can you agree that is an acceptable question?
    Maybe because she doesn’t fall into one or more of the sanctioned categories as described here? Careful, it’s over a year old.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/02/list-of-sanctioned-russian-oligarchs-businesses-00049301
    Russia's richest woman doesn't deserve sanctions.... Yeah OK
    Did you not see my email about why she isn't an oligarch?  The woman lives in London, subject to British laws.  Being the richest woman of Russian origin (SHE DOESN'T LIVE IN RUSSIA) doesn't make you automatically on a sanctions list.  
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,196
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

    What isn't debunked is why did Biden not sanction Baturina when he sanctioned other Russian oligarchs?
    Please, do tell. With links, please, seeing how you have the hottest and latest news fresh off the presses. Connect them dots. You like dots, don’t you?
    It's a fair question to ask. I don't have the slightest clue but if we're going after Russian oligarchs and we skip over a couple of them, we should be asking why that happened. Can you agree that is an acceptable question?
    Maybe because she doesn’t fall into one or more of the sanctioned categories as described here? Careful, it’s over a year old.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/02/list-of-sanctioned-russian-oligarchs-businesses-00049301
    Vladimir Yevtushenkov is a Russian oligarch but he was skipped over on the sanctions as well..... why?
    Because he met with the Brandon Crime Family in the Delaware compound and he agreed to donate billions to  the Brandon Crime Family campaign by donating to Soros funded and set up dem super PACS through dem advocacy organizations like Save the Whales, PETA, Sierra Club, BLM, etc. Duh.
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

    What isn't debunked is why did Biden not sanction Baturina when he sanctioned other Russian oligarchs?
    Please, do tell. With links, please, seeing how you have the hottest and latest news fresh off the presses. Connect them dots. You like dots, don’t you?
    It's a fair question to ask. I don't have the slightest clue but if we're going after Russian oligarchs and we skip over a couple of them, we should be asking why that happened. Can you agree that is an acceptable question?
    Maybe because she doesn’t fall into one or more of the sanctioned categories as described here? Careful, it’s over a year old.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/02/list-of-sanctioned-russian-oligarchs-businesses-00049301
    Vladimir Yevtushenkov is a Russian oligarch but he was skipped over on the sanctions as well..... why?
    Because he met with the Brandon Crime Family in the Delaware compound and he agreed to donate billions to  the Brandon Crime Family campaign by donating to Soros funded and set up dem super PACS through dem advocacy organizations like Save the Whales, PETA, Sierra Club, BLM, etc. Duh.
    Context, you know? Without a link, Halifax2TheMax just further erodes what little credibility they have, if there’s anything left. Hell, as far as I know, Halifax2TheMax just typed shit up.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,196
    edited August 2023
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

    What isn't debunked is why did Biden not sanction Baturina when he sanctioned other Russian oligarchs?
    Please, do tell. With links, please, seeing how you have the hottest and latest news fresh off the presses. Connect them dots. You like dots, don’t you?
    It's a fair question to ask. I don't have the slightest clue but if we're going after Russian oligarchs and we skip over a couple of them, we should be asking why that happened. Can you agree that is an acceptable question?
    Maybe because she doesn’t fall into one or more of the sanctioned categories as described here? Careful, it’s over a year old.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/02/list-of-sanctioned-russian-oligarchs-businesses-00049301
    Vladimir Yevtushenkov is a Russian oligarch but he was skipped over on the sanctions as well..... why?
    Because he met with the Brandon Crime Family in the Delaware compound and he agreed to donate billions to  the Brandon Crime Family campaign by donating to Soros funded and set up dem super PACS through dem advocacy organizations like Save the Whales, PETA, Sierra Club, BLM, etc. Duh.
    Context, you know? Without a link, Halifax2TheMax just further erodes what little credibility they have, if there’s anything left. Hell, as far as I know, Halifax2TheMax just typed shit up.
    Do your own research. It’s gotten you this far. And do try to be original.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

    What isn't debunked is why did Biden not sanction Baturina when he sanctioned other Russian oligarchs?
    Please, do tell. With links, please, seeing how you have the hottest and latest news fresh off the presses. Connect them dots. You like dots, don’t you?
    It's a fair question to ask. I don't have the slightest clue but if we're going after Russian oligarchs and we skip over a couple of them, we should be asking why that happened. Can you agree that is an acceptable question?
    Maybe because she doesn’t fall into one or more of the sanctioned categories as described here? Careful, it’s over a year old.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/02/list-of-sanctioned-russian-oligarchs-businesses-00049301
    Vladimir Yevtushenkov is a Russian oligarch but he was skipped over on the sanctions as well..... why?
    Because he met with the Brandon Crime Family in the Delaware compound and he agreed to donate billions to  the Brandon Crime Family campaign by donating to Soros funded and set up dem super PACS through dem advocacy organizations like Save the Whales, PETA, Sierra Club, BLM, etc. Duh.
    So you're saying ANTIFA wasn't involved.  Sick of your liberal lies.  
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,196
    edited August 2023
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

    What isn't debunked is why did Biden not sanction Baturina when he sanctioned other Russian oligarchs?
    Please, do tell. With links, please, seeing how you have the hottest and latest news fresh off the presses. Connect them dots. You like dots, don’t you?
    It's a fair question to ask. I don't have the slightest clue but if we're going after Russian oligarchs and we skip over a couple of them, we should be asking why that happened. Can you agree that is an acceptable question?
    Maybe because she doesn’t fall into one or more of the sanctioned categories as described here? Careful, it’s over a year old.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/02/list-of-sanctioned-russian-oligarchs-businesses-00049301
    Vladimir Yevtushenkov is a Russian oligarch but he was skipped over on the sanctions as well..... why?
    Because he met with the Brandon Crime Family in the Delaware compound and he agreed to donate billions to  the Brandon Crime Family campaign by donating to Soros funded and set up dem super PACS through dem advocacy organizations like Save the Whales, PETA, Sierra Club, BLM, etc. Duh.
    So you're saying ANTIFA wasn't involved.  Sick of your liberal lies.  
    ANTIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFA wasn’t directly involved. Their funding was laundered through Comet Pizza, the evidence of which was on Hillary’s server. Try to keep up.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

    What isn't debunked is why did Biden not sanction Baturina when he sanctioned other Russian oligarchs?
    Please, do tell. With links, please, seeing how you have the hottest and latest news fresh off the presses. Connect them dots. You like dots, don’t you?
    It's a fair question to ask. I don't have the slightest clue but if we're going after Russian oligarchs and we skip over a couple of them, we should be asking why that happened. Can you agree that is an acceptable question?
    Maybe because she doesn’t fall into one or more of the sanctioned categories as described here? Careful, it’s over a year old.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/02/list-of-sanctioned-russian-oligarchs-businesses-00049301
    Vladimir Yevtushenkov is a Russian oligarch but he was skipped over on the sanctions as well..... why?
    Because he met with the Brandon Crime Family in the Delaware compound and he agreed to donate billions to  the Brandon Crime Family campaign by donating to Soros funded and set up dem super PACS through dem advocacy organizations like Save the Whales, PETA, Sierra Club, BLM, etc. Duh.
    So you're saying ANTIFA wasn't involved.  Sick of your liberal lies.  
    ANTIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFA wasn’t directly involved. Their funding was laundered through Comet Pizza, the evidence of which was on Hillary’s server. Try to keep up.
    I'm disappointed you couldn't work Jade Helm into this.  You're losing your golden touch.  
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    mrussel1 said:
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    Past is present. Buh buh buh Hunter.
    And because it was debunked and bullshit over a year ago, I guess it’s not relevant?

    Unraveling the tale of Hunter Biden and $3.5 million from Russia

    She [Russian billionaire Elena Baturina] gave him [Hunter Biden] $3.5 million so now I would think [Russian president Vladimir] Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

    — Former president Donald Trump, in an interview with Just the News, March 29

    “The FBI knew of the laptop, knew that Hunter received a $3.5 million wire transfer from the former mayor of Moscow’s wife.”

    — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” April 3

    Less than 50 days before the 2020 presidential election, the Republican staff of the Senate Finance and Homeland Security committees issued a joint reportwith a startling claim — that Joe Biden’s son Hunter had received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire and the widow of the former mayor of Moscow.

    Trump quickly weaponized the factoid, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign. He sharply questioned Biden during the first presidential debate: “They were the ones involved with Russia, turns out not me, it was the opposite. But why did your son get three and a half million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow?”

    An attorney for Hunter Biden denied the allegation in 2020 but it has lived on, especially in the right-wing media. Recently Trump called on Putin to reveal what he knows about it.

    Trump’s call-out to Putin inspired us to dig deep into this story again. We interviewed people familiar with the transactions, reviewed property and real estate documents and probed for leads in the emails contained on a hard drive copy of the laptop Hunter Biden supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. None of our sources would speak on the record because of continuing investigations of Hunter Biden and his business practices, but we sought confirmation from corporate filings and other records.

    The flimsiness of the allegation was apparent from the start merely by carefully reading the Senate GOP report itself.

    The executive summary offers a seemingly definitive bullet point almost exactly the same as Johnson’s comment: “Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.” But the two pages in the report that deal with this transaction are considerably more nuanced, never saying outright that Hunter Biden received this money and making no claim that any laws were broken.

    The GOP report itself does not provide evidence to back up the claim that became a talking point — and our reporting has unearthed the best explanation about what really happened. It’s a complicated story, involving a web of corporate entities, that eventually leads to the purchase of millions of dollars worth of real estate in Brooklyn by the Russian billionaire. We found no evidence that Hunter Biden was part of those transactions.

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/unraveling-tale-hunter-biden-35-million-russia/

    What isn't debunked is why did Biden not sanction Baturina when he sanctioned other Russian oligarchs?
    Please, do tell. With links, please, seeing how you have the hottest and latest news fresh off the presses. Connect them dots. You like dots, don’t you?
    It's a fair question to ask. I don't have the slightest clue but if we're going after Russian oligarchs and we skip over a couple of them, we should be asking why that happened. Can you agree that is an acceptable question?
    Maybe because she doesn’t fall into one or more of the sanctioned categories as described here? Careful, it’s over a year old.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/02/list-of-sanctioned-russian-oligarchs-businesses-00049301
    Vladimir Yevtushenkov is a Russian oligarch but he was skipped over on the sanctions as well..... why?
    Because he met with the Brandon Crime Family in the Delaware compound and he agreed to donate billions to  the Brandon Crime Family campaign by donating to Soros funded and set up dem super PACS through dem advocacy organizations like Save the Whales, PETA, Sierra Club, BLM, etc. Duh.
    So you're saying ANTIFA wasn't involved.  Sick of your liberal lies.  
    ANTIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFA wasn’t directly involved. Their funding was laundered through Comet Pizza, the evidence of which was on Hillary’s server. Try to keep up.
    I'm disappointed you couldn't work Jade Helm into this.  You're losing your golden touch.  
    Shhhhhhhh, that’s why there are FEMA camps. They’re coming for YOU!
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  • mickeyrat
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    who was in office when this payment was supposed to have been made?
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    Republicans truly don’t give a shit, so they have to fabricate an equivalent with the Biden crime family in the hopes that democrats will respond with the same apathy. 
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  • The Juggler
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    Smart move by maga's to release this a couple hours before their leader is set to be arrested again. Big ol' swing and a miss once again



    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/hunter-biden-business-associate-testifies-no-knowledge-wrongdoing-joe-rcna97953

    Hunter Biden business associate testifies he has no knowledge of wrongdoing by Joe Biden

    Republicans released a 141-page transcript of Devon Archer's testimony on the same day former President Donald Trump is set to be arraigned in Washington.
    Devon Archer Hunter Bidens former business partner leaves the ONeill House Office Building after testifying to the House Oversight Committee on Capitol Hill on July 31 2023
    Devon Archer, right, Hunter Biden’s former business partner, after testifying to the House Oversight Committee on July 31. Chip Somodevilla / Getty Images
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    Aug. 3, 2023, 12:27 PM EDT / Updated Aug. 3, 2023, 1:39 PM EDT

    WASHINGTON — Hunter Biden’s business associate, Devon Archer, testified before the House Oversight Committee that he has no knowledge that then-Vice President Joe Biden changed U.S. foreign policy to help his son and that he's not aware of any wrongdoing by the elder Biden, according to transcripts of his testimony released Thursday.

    “I have no basis to know if he altered policy to benefit his son. … I have no knowledge,” Archer testified in the closed-door hearing earlier this week.

    One of the GOP’s key witnesses in its investigation into the Bidens, Archer told lawmakers that Hunter Biden repeatedly used the Joe Biden “brand” to protect Burisma "so people would be intimidated to mess with them" legally and politically. But he quickly added: "On this line of questioning, I have no, like, proof."

    Archer also said that he did not disagree with the conclusion that Hunter Biden’s role on the board of Ukrainian energy firm Bursma had no effect on U.S. foreign policy. And Archer testified that he had no knowledge of any wrongdoing by Joe Biden as it related to his son’s business dealings.

    “No, I’m not aware of any,” Archer said during his more than five-hour deposition.

    The witness also said there were roughly 20 phone calls in which Hunter Biden would put his father on speakerphone in the presence of business associates, but he said that the brief conversations focused on pleasantries like the weather or fishing, not official business.

    But Archer testified that those mundane phone calls were meant to convey access and power. Without Hunter Biden, Burisma might not have survived, Archer said.

    “I think Burisma would have gone out of business if it didn’t have the brand attached to it. That’s my, like, only honest opinion,” Archer said.

    The witness also described two dinners — a birthday dinner and another on the World Food Programme — attended by Hunter and Joe Biden in 2014 and 2015 at Washington’s Cafe Milano. Some foreign business executives and politicians were present, but Archer said Joe Biden didn’t discuss business. Hunter Biden was chairman of the board for World Food Program USA at the time.

    Oversight Chairman James Comer, R-Ky., released Archer’s 141-page transcript on the same day former President Donald Trump is set to be arraigned at a federal courthouse in Washington for charges related to his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. The testimony hands Republicans descriptive details about Hunter Biden and more ammunition as they accuse the Justice Department of aggressively prosecuting Trump for multiple crimes while going easy on Hunter Biden on federal tax and other charges.

    But the transcripts appear to back up Democrats, including Reps. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., and Dan Goldman, D-N.Y., who have argued that Comer’s investigation into the Bidens has revealed no direct evidence that Joe Biden was involved in his son’s business dealings, was influenced by them or broke the law.

    “Once again, Committee Republicans’ priority investigation into President Biden has failed to produce any evidence of wrongdoing by President Biden. On Monday, Devon Archer, Hunter Biden’s former business associate, confirmed in a transcribed interview that President Biden was never involved in Hunter’s business dealings, never profited from such dealings, and never took official action in relation to these business dealings,” Raskin, the top Democrat on the Oversight panel, said in a statement.

    “The transcript released today shows the extent to which Congressional Republicans are willing to distort, twist, and manipulate the facts presented by their own witness just to keep fueling the far-right media’s obsession with fabricating wrongdoing by President Biden in a desperate effort to distract from Donald Trump’s third indictment and the overwhelming evidence of his persistent efforts to undermine American democracy.”


    At one point in the deposition, Archer’s attorney Matthew Schwartz, wanted his client to clarify several points Archer made earlier about the limitations of his knowledge about Joe Biden.

    “It is still true that you are not aware that Hunter Biden ever discussed policy with his father, discussed business with his father, influenced American policy for purposes of his business or otherwise caused the Vice President or asked the Vice President to do anything improper, right?” Schwartz asked.

    “That’s my understanding,” Archer replied. 

    Goldman, the Democratic lawmaker, participated in the deposition and asked Archer to clarify that Hunter Biden was not necessarily selling access to Joe Biden, then the vice president, but the “illusion of access.”

    “So is it fair to say that Hunter Biden was selling the illusion of access to his father? Goldman asked. 

    “Yes,” Archer replied, adding that the Biden son and father spoke almost daily “but nothing of material was discussed.” 

    Earlier in the deposition, Archer told Rep. Andy Biggs, R-Ariz., “It’s fair to say” that when he refers to Hunter Biden selling the Biden “brand” he is referring to the Joe Biden brand. But then, later in the deposition, after a break and conferring with his counsel, Archer said Hunter Biden was creating the appearance of access to Washington in general.

    “Overall, it’s the appearance to all of D.C.,” Archer said.

    The Trump family is briefly mentioned during Archer’s testimony. After questioning from Goldman, Archer recalled he did once “play behind” Donald Trump in golf. Trump approached him at the clubhouse and said he did not like Archer’s athletic shorts.

    “Would you say that Donald Trump’s children benefit from their last name being Trump?” Goldman asked. 

    “I would speculate to say, yes,” Archer replied.

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