Official 2023 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

IlliniGuy76 said:

Torontonian said:

It will be interesting (and I am sure make this thread explode) when new seat locations are re-issued as well... wondering how much of a bump in quality older TC members get versus how much of a decline in quality newer TC members get.

Do you think TC will address those who say, had Chicago #2 as Priority 1 and lost while someone had it #3 and won?  Or if they lost because they had just GA/Reserved but not Reserved and that was the reason for this happening?

Time will tell.  A lot of people must have emailed the Ten Club about this to make this re-seating happen in the first place.

I know plenty of people who had Chicago 1-2 and only selected seats & were chosen 

tylermoore said:

People think they halted things and sent out that email to not give more tickets away. 

These are huge arenas. Plenty of seats to go around. There will be more confirmations today 

Doug87 said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

Torontonian said:

It will be interesting (and I am sure make this thread explode) when new seat locations are re-issued as well... wondering how much of a bump in quality older TC members get versus how much of a decline in quality newer TC members get.

Do you think TC will address those who say, had Chicago #2 as Priority 1 and lost while someone had it #3 and won?  Or if they lost because they had just GA/Reserved but not Reserved and that was the reason for this happening?

Time will tell.  A lot of people must have emailed the Ten Club about this to make this re-seating happen in the first place.

I know plenty of people who had Chicago 1-2 and only selected seats & were chosen 

That’s interesting if true as select All Options would be bad advice in those circumstances as their official email said.

hence why we’re here with a big mop and broom getting ready to hopefully clean up this massive mess.

mookieb14 said:

Vedderman23 said:

Thank you 10C for acknowledging and working to fix the seating issues for those 3 venues.  

It is appreciated!

What is being fixed?  Just reassignment of seat allocations to the “winners”?   Or are they fixing the problem of members not even getting a chance at seats cause they picked only ga/Res?

machinehum said:

PJNB said:

machinehum said:

JF116983 said:

know1 said:

machinehum said:

know1 said:

machinehum said:

know1 said:

machinehum said:

Seats getting worse on average has been officially and explicitly explained. They’ve made the decision that they’d rather 10C = more people can get a price-capped seat which includes mostly “worse” seats, rather than very few people get a price-capped seat but it’s much more likely to be a good one. It’s understandable if people don’t love that choice but it’s not a mystery. 

I'm pretty sure that's never been stated. 

https://blog.ticketmaster.com/pearl-jam-tour-2023/

 
“Pearl Jam continues to try to protect fans’ access to fairly priced tickets by providing the majority of tickets to its Ten Club members, making tickets non-transferable where permitted, and by selling approximately 10% of tickets through PJ Premium at the market rate to offset increased costs.”

The % of seats allocated to 10C has been stated to be increasing, this may be the first time it’s been an actual majority (not sure on that). And they say explicitly that one reason is to allow more people to have access to price-capped tickets. 

That statement does not address at all the question about reserved seats getting progressively worse over time for people who have maintained a long standing member number. 

Of course it does, that’s just math. If 10 times as many club members are being picked, it’s exponentially more likely that people with even lower numbers than you are getting seats who wouldn’t have before. Additionally, they’re offsetting the “cost” of this to the band by selling more “Premium” seats, many or most of which will also be better ones. 

Sorry - but you are incorrect on the first part. All members have always been able to put in for as many shows as they wanted. The only thing that impacts are the odds of getting chosen in the lottery. It does not explain seats getting worse.

But yes - the "Premium" seats issue likely does have an effect. But they don't say where those are so again it's not been specifically stated.

The smaller number of shows likely has an effect as well.

At the same time, how many people with a better number than me have let them drop at least once in the last 20 years? So that should offset things. 

You could put in as many shoes as you want but your first selection had best chance and then you couldn’t be picked for more shoes - that’s how it worked last time, this show they are allowing multiple shows

Yup, that too. People being able to actually claim tickets for multiple shows also definitely has a big effect. 

That is not how it worked last time at all lol. What is going on here with all of this misinformation.

Also People being selected for multiple shows in no way shape or form has any effect on someone losing out on their first pick. If they won multiple shows that means they had multiple priorities which means those priorities are past the first pick which means, now wait for it, the first priorities should of been considered before all those priorities after it! 


It is just math

JFC you again? This exchange was about “my seats have gotten worse over the years”, not the priority ranking stuff. You’re so busy looking for something to be a dickhead about that you can’t even read. 

PJNB said:

machinehum said:

JF116983 said:

know1 said:

machinehum said:

know1 said:

machinehum said:

know1 said:

machinehum said:

Seats getting worse on average has been officially and explicitly explained. They’ve made the decision that they’d rather 10C = more people can get a price-capped seat which includes mostly “worse” seats, rather than very few people get a price-capped seat but it’s much more likely to be a good one. It’s understandable if people don’t love that choice but it’s not a mystery. 

I'm pretty sure that's never been stated. 

https://blog.ticketmaster.com/pearl-jam-tour-2023/

 
“Pearl Jam continues to try to protect fans’ access to fairly priced tickets by providing the majority of tickets to its Ten Club members, making tickets non-transferable where permitted, and by selling approximately 10% of tickets through PJ Premium at the market rate to offset increased costs.”

The % of seats allocated to 10C has been stated to be increasing, this may be the first time it’s been an actual majority (not sure on that). And they say explicitly that one reason is to allow more people to have access to price-capped tickets. 

That statement does not address at all the question about reserved seats getting progressively worse over time for people who have maintained a long standing member number. 

Of course it does, that’s just math. If 10 times as many club members are being picked, it’s exponentially more likely that people with even lower numbers than you are getting seats who wouldn’t have before. Additionally, they’re offsetting the “cost” of this to the band by selling more “Premium” seats, many or most of which will also be better ones. 

Sorry - but you are incorrect on the first part. All members have always been able to put in for as many shows as they wanted. The only thing that impacts are the odds of getting chosen in the lottery. It does not explain seats getting worse.

But yes - the "Premium" seats issue likely does have an effect. But they don't say where those are so again it's not been specifically stated.

The smaller number of shows likely has an effect as well.

At the same time, how many people with a better number than me have let them drop at least once in the last 20 years? So that should offset things. 

You could put in as many shoes as you want but your first selection had best chance and then you couldn’t be picked for more shoes - that’s how it worked last time, this show they are allowing multiple shows

Yup, that too. People being able to actually claim tickets for multiple shows also definitely has a big effect. 

That is not how it worked last time at all lol. What is going on here with all of this misinformation.

Also People being selected for multiple shows in no way shape or form has any effect on someone losing out on their first pick. If they won multiple shows that means they had multiple priorities which means those priorities are past the first pick which means, now wait for it, the first priorities should of been considered before all those priorities after it! 


It is just math