PJ1973 said:

Got a pair for Austin 2. No word yet on Austin 1. Section 112 so I'm thinking this is on the opposite side from the stage.

Yes I will join you there!  Waiting on Austin 1 which was my first priority. Seems there are some extras being awarded. 

Still holding out for Chitown N1, and if that fails hopefully I can strike F2F. And if that fails... well.. shit, at least I get to see The Lumineers the week before.

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No luck Austin#1 and Chicago. Gonna just hope GVF tours with their new album because they light shit on fire. Lol

Seeing GVF In Portland August 5th 

Saw both PJ and GVF at Bourbon and Beyond and would love to see either band again. Would really like to see PJ full concert this year,. I’m a little heartbroken on this lottery so far but it’s not officially over yet  

That sounds like an epic concert. Agreed. Austin debacle killing my hope to see them this year but fingers crossed on night one still 

whoyouare72 said:

You have to win this lottery first, and then they apply the priorities to all of the winners.
If you are not chosen as a lottery winner then priorities mean nothing.

When you get chosen as a lottery winner and there are multiple shows in that city, you get all of the shows you requested in that city, unless they are already sold out, based on how you ordered your priorities.

The proof of this is people winning tickets to multiple shows (both Chicago) and getting the congrats emails one minute apart for each show.

Waiting on Austin 1 first priority and won Austin 2 second priority?

setlist41 said:

Someone on facebook,  just got a Chicago email 

did they happen to say their ten club number lol

I have put in for Indiana have not heard anything.  I am totally hoping for this as I reserved air bnb and some other things assuming they said a majority for 10c was GA Field…I have zero emails.  I’m dying 

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baldog27 said:

I got a good one (All Selections were GA/Res Option)
1.  Chi 2 Lost
2.  Chi 1 Lost
3.  Noble Lost
4.  St Paul 1 Lost
5.  Austin 1 Lost
6.  St Paul 2 Lost

7.  Austin 2 WON

Let me fix this for you.

I got a good one (All Selections were GA/Res Option)
1.  Chi 2 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 
2.  Chi 1 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 
3.  Noble Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 
4.  St Paul 1 Lost  -- LOST LOTTERY 
5.  Austin 1 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 
6.  St Paul 2 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 

7.  Austin 2 WON -- WON LOTTERY

You have to win the lottery for the show you selected FIRST to even be in the ticket pool.

If you do win , thats when priority and seniority applies. 

Been this way since 2020 tour. 

Some shows are higher in demand then others, thus the reason you won seats with 7th priority.

The only way to fix this and to erase all the confusion is to make the lottery selection a separate process and send the emails to everyone win or lose. Then everyone knows if they won or lost for that show. Then those that won, priority and seniority would then apply to the seat you get.

Yeah its an extra step, but maybe Pearl Jam could convince TM to do it in the future.

Is there a source for this? It would explain a lot if that's actually been publicly stated at some point. 

No it is a completely made up fallacy.

https://blog.ticketmaster.com/pearl-jam-tour-2023/

Go down to the how do tickets work for 10c members?  It factually states tickets are randomized with consideration based on priority. Ergo, priority 1 should always trump priority 2 and so forth.

It says "To level the playing field, ticket requests are fulfilled in a randomized selection process while still considering show priority." 

"Ergo, priority 1 should always trump priority 2 and so forth" definitely does not follow from that statement. In fact they leave it deliberately vague. 

Consider Person A, Person B, and shows GG, OK, LY. Priorities highest to lowest: 

Person A: GG, LY, OK. 
Person B. GG, OK, LY. 

GG and LY have greater demand than supply. OK does not. 

Person A gets chosen for GG, Person B does not. 

Person B gets chosen for OK and LY. Person A does not. 

Now, person B has gotten a ticket for OK at #3, whereas A did not get it at #2. According to your theory, that's definitely B A D. Furthermore, person B got two shows and Person A only got one!

On the other hand, Person A got their first choice, and Person B didn't. So maybe it all balances out? People will have different opinions, and those are the kinds of factors that go into trying to design a process for this scenario. 

If the people designing the solution make different choices, there's a world where Person A gets GG and LY, Person B gets only OK. Now Person A has their first pick (B doesn't), and more shows than B, but B has OK even though they had a lower priority on it than Person A did. Is that Bad and Wrong and Person A should definitely have gotten that seat instead, making for a clean sweep? 

I think you have some of this messed up with your example but in no way should LY hit for Person B and Person A misses. Thats not how this has ever worked or should work. 

It may be true that it hasn't worked that way before. Dunno. I respect your opinion that this isn't how it should work, I also disagree. Reasonable people can have a different opinion on that. Personally, I think that since Person A already got their first choice *and* third choice, and Person B didn't, it's more than reasonable for Person B to hit LY while Person A doesn't. And I'm not saying this exact thing is happening here. I'm just trying to illustrate that different people can reasonably have different opinions about what is most "fair", and you can't please everybody, and with a matrix of three different inputs (show, priority, GA/Reserve vs. only Reserve) across thousands of people, a lot of people are going to be unhappy and think it makes no sense no matter what you do. 

It's also possible that their selection process is entirely unfair and idiotic -- but I don't think we have the evidence to say that, and I think people are far underestimating how difficult a problem this is to solve when one requirement is a futile hope to have at least a veneer of "fairness" across the opinions of tens of thousands of people. 

Explain to me how 8 people I know put Chicago night 2 as a first and only pick. They have not heard anything yet and others put it as a 3rd pick and won. Also the people that put it as a 3rd pick won 4 other shows. 

I have Chicago night 2 as my first pick (with night 1 as my second). No other picks. Have not heard a thing.

I would be willing to bet that the majority of them selected GA or RES only. 

1st - Chicago N1 - Won - GA PIT - 736am pt
2nd - Chicago N2 - Won - Sec 109 - 1151am
3rd - Austin N1 - 
4th - Austin N2 - Won - Sec 110 - 157pm

28x xxx

seane2430 said:

I had to look back at previous lotteries… it just a confirmation email if we got tickets, correct?

There’s no ‘sorry, you did not get tickets’ email.

 In the 2022 lottery I got an email from TicketsToday with the subject "An Update On Your Ticket Request for Pearl Jam" and listing all my requests and showing them all as a status Unfulfilled. So I'm expecting a similar email if I lose out today. 

For 2023, I have requested:
#1 Chicago N2 GA/Res
#2 Chicago N1 GA/Res
#3 St. Paul N2 GA/Res
#4 St. Paul N1 GA/Res

and so far have not received any emails. 

Given the current time and the way things are going, I'm now sadly expecting one of the above "update" emails at close of play today 

On balance I would say I've been reasonably fortunate to have won the tickets in the lottery a few times in the past when it was run by Ten Club but as you can see from the above, I don't feel very lucky since it has been in the hands of TicketsToday. 

Got reserved for Austin (show 2 6th pick)
Reaerved for both Fort Worth shows (8th and 9th).