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  • Attaway77
    Attaway77 Posts: 3,693
    edited April 2023
    Yeah there's some seating issues... I'm usually a couple sections from stage, always good seats. I'm more in the middle for Ft. Worth, for Austin N2 I'm section 110 towards the back.... Still holding out for N1 Austin.. All good though, happy to be there and these places aren't that huge, it'll be a good time....
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    setlist41 said:
    Someone on facebook,  just got a Chicago email 
    Still a chance!

  • PJNB said:
    PJNB said:
    baldog27 said:
    I got a good one (All Selections were GA/Res Option)
    1.  Chi 2 Lost
    2.  Chi 1 Lost
    3.  Noble Lost
    4.  St Paul 1 Lost
    5.  Austin 1 Lost
    6.  St Paul 2 Lost

    7.  Austin 2 WON

    Let me fix this for you.

    I got a good one (All Selections were GA/Res Option)
    1.  Chi 2 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 
    2.  Chi 1 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 
    3.  Noble Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 
    4.  St Paul 1 Lost  -- LOST LOTTERY 
    5.  Austin 1 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 
    6.  St Paul 2 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 

    7.  Austin 2 WON -- WON LOTTERY


    You have to win the lottery for the show you selected FIRST to even be in the ticket pool.

    If you do win , thats when priority and seniority applies. 


    Been this way since 2020 tour. 


    Some shows are higher in demand then others, thus the reason you won seats with 7th priority.


    The only way to fix this and to erase all the confusion is to make the lottery selection a separate process and send the emails to everyone win or lose. Then everyone knows if they won or lost for that show. Then those that won, priority and seniority would then apply to the seat you get.

    Yeah its an extra step, but maybe Pearl Jam could convince TM to do it in the future.
    Is there a source for this? It would explain a lot if that's actually been publicly stated at some point. 
    No it is a completely made up fallacy.

    https://blog.ticketmaster.com/pearl-jam-tour-2023/

    Go down to the how do tickets work for 10c members?  It factually states tickets are randomized with consideration based on priority. Ergo, priority 1 should always trump priority 2 and so forth.
    It says "To level the playing field, ticket requests are fulfilled in a randomized selection process while still considering show priority." 
    "Ergo, priority 1 should always trump priority 2 and so forth" definitely does not follow from that statement. In fact they leave it deliberately vague. 

    Consider Person A, Person B, and shows GG, OK, LY. Priorities highest to lowest: 
    Person A: GG, LY, OK. 
    Person B. GG, OK, LY. 

    GG and LY have greater demand than supply. OK does not. 

    Person A gets chosen for GG, Person B does not. 

    Person B gets chosen for OK and LY. Person A does not. 

    Now, person B has gotten a ticket for OK at #3, whereas A did not get it at #2. According to your theory, that's definitely B A D. Furthermore, person B got two shows and Person A only got one!

    On the other hand, Person A got their first choice, and Person B didn't. So maybe it all balances out? People will have different opinions, and those are the kinds of factors that go into trying to design a process for this scenario. 

    If the people designing the solution make different choices, there's a world where Person A gets GG and LY, Person B gets only OK. Now Person A has their first pick (B doesn't), and more shows than B, but B has OK even though they had a lower priority on it than Person A did. Is that Bad and Wrong and Person A should definitely have gotten that seat instead, making for a clean sweep? 
    I think you have some of this messed up with your example but in no way should LY hit for Person B and Person A misses. Thats not how this has ever worked or should work. 
    It may be true that it hasn't worked that way before. Dunno. I respect your opinion that this isn't how it should work, I also disagree. Reasonable people can have a different opinion on that. Personally, I think that since Person A already got their first choice *and* third choice, and Person B didn't, it's more than reasonable for Person B to hit LY while Person A doesn't. And I'm not saying this exact thing is happening here. I'm just trying to illustrate that different people can reasonably have different opinions about what is most "fair", and you can't please everybody, and with a matrix of three different inputs (show, priority, GA/Reserve vs. only Reserve) across thousands of people, a lot of people are going to be unhappy and think it makes no sense no matter what you do. 

    It's also possible that their selection process is entirely unfair and idiotic -- but I don't think we have the evidence to say that, and I think people are far underestimating how difficult a problem this is to solve when one requirement is a futile hope to have at least a veneer of "fairness" across the opinions of tens of thousands of people. 
    Explain to me how 8 people I know put Chicago night 2 as a first and only pick. They have not heard anything yet and others put it as a 3rd pick and won. Also the people that put it as a 3rd pick won 4 other shows. 
    That's me. Night two was my one and only. Nothing so far 🥺
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  • AL284278
    AL284278 Posts: 4
    I signed up for both St. Paul shows.  I only got the second show...so far...not sure if the I'll get an e-mail later for the first one.  When I registered I had picked a section closest to the stage.  I got my e-mail today and they tell me my tickets in the back of the arena furthest away from the stage. I'm confused and have a lot of questions, but I guess I should be grateful that I even got tickets???  Good Luck to everyone else!  I hope you have better luck than I did. 
  • ZoSoTim
    ZoSoTim Posts: 1,278
    In for both nights Ft Worth! Section 110 on 9/13, Section 116 on 9/15. Emails came around 4:30 and 5pm. First time I've ever hit the lottery and I ended up with both. Lucky or lower demand because of Austin? I'll take it either way
    Mine dont give me a specific section in the email for Ft Worth.  It just says Sec FLR3, Row 19
    FLR3 is the section.  
  • RiotAct10
    RiotAct10 Ohio Posts: 1,638
    Fallen behind here. Has anyone gotten Indy lawn?
    words seem so out of place.

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  • Triberjay25
    Triberjay25 Detroit Posts: 129
    RiotAct10 said:
    Fallen behind here. Has anyone gotten Indy lawn?
    No
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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,344
    Today is a good day to renew your 10C membership. 
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  • 12inchdoc
    12inchdoc Posts: 38
    CO278952 said:
    PJ1973 said:
    Got a pair for Austin 2. No word yet on Austin 1. Section 112 so I'm thinking this is on the opposite side from the stage.
    Yes I will join you there!  Waiting on Austin 1 which was my first priority. Seems there are some extras being awarded. 
    I'm holding out hope. My daughter had Austin N1 as 1st priority and nothing, but got Austin N2  as 2nd priority (Sect 216).  My 2nd priority was Austin night 2 and my seats are right next to hers. Our TC# are not real close.
  • logan5ive said:
    So, I got a 2nd pair of tix for Austin1. Is this happening to others? Just this show?
    A bunch of us.  So far all for Austin 1.

    So what does that mean? I wonder if the refunds will happen, or you have to keep them and put them up for sale. Hmmm. Well, I am still waiting for Austin N1. Got Austin N2, but way up in the 200s.
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  • CopperTom
    CopperTom Posts: 3,149
    baldog27 said:
    I got a good one (All Selections were GA/Res Option)
    1.  Chi 2 Lost
    2.  Chi 1 Lost
    3.  Noble Lost
    4.  St Paul 1 Lost
    5.  Austin 1 Lost
    6.  St Paul 2 Lost

    7.  Austin 2 WON

    Let me fix this for you.

    I got a good one (All Selections were GA/Res Option)
    1.  Chi 2 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 
    2.  Chi 1 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 
    3.  Noble Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 
    4.  St Paul 1 Lost  -- LOST LOTTERY 
    5.  Austin 1 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 
    6.  St Paul 2 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 

    7.  Austin 2 WON -- WON LOTTERY


    You have to win the lottery for the show you selected FIRST to even be in the ticket pool.

    If you do win , thats when priority and seniority applies. 


    Been this way since 2020 tour. 


    Some shows are higher in demand then others, thus the reason you won seats with 7th priority.


    The only way to fix this and to erase all the confusion is to make the lottery selection a separate process and send the emails to everyone win or lose. Then everyone knows if they won or lost for that show. Then those that won, priority and seniority would then apply to the seat you get.

    Yeah its an extra step, but maybe Pearl Jam could convince TM to do it in the future.
    Everything you said is wrong.
  • jwc6160
    jwc6160 Posts: 393
    Is there any way to see your "status" for requests. I got an email showing my request, but I don't see anything pending, denied, or anything on the 10c site anywhere. Thanks
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  • minidonk40
    minidonk40 texas Posts: 2
    I appreciate everyone's help on getting my head around this.....My brother in law and I both got tickets to Ft Worth. He is offering me his tickets I can take my girls....would be such a special experience.....is there anyway to do this?
  • deb1211
    deb1211 Posts: 2,023
    12inchdoc said:
    CO278952 said:
    PJ1973 said:
    Got a pair for Austin 2. No word yet on Austin 1. Section 112 so I'm thinking this is on the opposite side from the stage.
    Yes I will join you there!  Waiting on Austin 1 which was my first priority. Seems there are some extras being awarded. 
    I'm holding out hope. My daughter had Austin N1 as 1st priority and nothing, but got Austin N2  as 2nd priority (Sect 216).  My 2nd priority was Austin night 2 and my seats are right next to hers. Our TC# are not real close.
    I also had it 2nd priority and same section
  • KV4053
    KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,512
    Got a Ticketmaster update regarding double charge on my Austin 1 extra tix.  Guess they figured out the problem.
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  • PJeff44
    PJeff44 Tennessee Posts: 15
    edited April 2023
    Scored Austin n2 reserved (email at 4pm central) 115 row R (369xxx) It was my 2nd priority after Austin n1. Still holding out hope they aren’t done. 
  • KV4053
    KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,512
    "During our processing for the September 18 show in Austin, a second order was generated for you by mistake. Refunds will be processed automatically back to the credit card on file for this second order.

    Your initial order is still intact, there is no further action required. You will receive a follow email to claim your tickets.

    We apologize for any confusion."

    This is regarding the extra pair I was notified of for Austin 1
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  • jimjam1982
    jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,471
    The sad part is they didn't do anything yesterday and now the deadline to update Verified Fan is long past.  
  • Whipping_Boy
    Whipping_Boy Plantation, FL Posts: 161
    tylerj said:
    mr bungle said:
    Really not complaining. just confused.  My reserved seats for Austinx2 are by far the worst seats ive ever gotten. ive  Always been side stage in arenas.  now i'm getting back corner?  10c# 144k
    It’s a joke. 25+ year members are now sitting where there’s barely a view of the stage. Every 100 level seat has a better view than back of floor.
    Not saying it's right or wrong, but this has been the case at least for the last few tours. 
    I disagree.  I am 166xxx and had great seats for last several tours.  Great seats in Nashville, NY, Fort Lauderdale, Miami, and Tampa.  Close to side stage and only a few rows up.  Or I had pit.  This tour - completely different. 
  • PSUS2H
    PSUS2H USA Posts: 2,388
    I appreciate everyone's help on getting my head around this.....My brother in law and I both got tickets to Ft Worth. He is offering me his tickets I can take my girls....would be such a special experience.....is there anyway to do this?
    Have him log into his TM account on one of your girls phones (assuming theyre old enough to have a smart phone)
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