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  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    not sports, but relevant...and kinda funny...lol

    Saw this on ebay and sent a message to them asking about the grading service, which has the same name as the seller.... (see their response below) ... This is just a home made label in a screw down case.. crazy... 






     


    "The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
     


  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    edited March 2023
    on2legs said:
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    on2legs said:
    The irony is that if all those cards didn’t get tossed in the trash long ago, baseball cards would be worth a lot less today.  
    Not entirely true.  Topps literally dumped truckloads of 1952 topps into the ocean/landfill.  The 52 Mantle is actually a double printed card.  Sometimes people just like the cards and nostalgia helps.



    What part wasn't true?

    Nostalgia is great and certainly helps, but people loved baseball in the 80s and those cards will never approach the values of the cards printed before they became a collectible no matter how much people love Don Mattingly. 
    I get your point.  I am also stating that some cards are not necessarily rare like the 86 fleer basketball stuff or 89 Upper Deck, even 2011 topps update.  There are tons of it out there but it remains very sought after.

    Now cards from the 30's and early 40's are a different animal.
    I love the 86 Fleer basketball.  At the National I met the guy who is hoarding half the Johnny Moore PSA 10’s that are known to exist. He wanted like $60k each!  
    There are only 67 of them...  Want to hear something stupid?  There are 66 Jeff Malones in a PSA 10... And nobody goes ape shit over that one...

    EDIT:  Speaking of the National, did you see the Jordan Supercollector showing off every rare insert there was?  He had them all.  I was blown away by that one.  Most of those cards I had only seen on the web.

    It's not about the player.  It's that one dealer is hoarding half the known PSA 10's for Johnny Moore. So he's basically controlling the market and if you want to put together a PSA 10 set you're likely going to have to go through that one guy to get a Johnny Moore.  My buddy and I were just about done for the day and we stopped to look at a table with a ton of 86 Fleer graded cards.  I saw the Johnny Moore card on the table with a price tag of 60k and I asked my buddy why it was worth that much.  Another customer near me overheard and said it was because one dealer owned almost all of them and was controlling the market.  At that point the dealer behind the table said, "Yeah... that's me but I actually only have half of them".  :o

    I didn't see the Jordan collection... would have loved to see it. 
    Ahhhhhhh, Now I get it.  So the PSA 10 seekers can only have like 30 complete sets.  That is amazing.

    I am in need of a Derek Jeter 2003 PSA 10 card to complete my run.  There is one on Ebay right now for a cool $845.  F That.  There are only 36 of them so these are hard to come by.  I got lucky getting the 2001 PSA 10 and the 1993's came down from outer space from 2000 to under 400 now.
    A Jeter PSA 10 run?!?  Nice work, Chris!! 

    I have an album full of Jeter cards if you’re interested in.  LMK.  
    Depends on which one..one of the most sought after Jeter cards is the 1993 SP Foil #278 - The foil makes it harder to receive high grades, since it scratches and the edges chipped much easier than a normal card..

    I'm lucky to have one, but haven't gotten it graded, yet..... Thinking it may be a 9... (Image is graded one for sale on ebay..)








     
    "The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
     


  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855

    Here are a couple of RCs I need to get graded..

    1992 Topps Gold Shaquille O'Neal RC and the 2000 Upper Deck Black Diamond Brady RC  (scratches from glare are on the cases)



     



    "The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
     


  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855


    The card that started the 80s baseball card boom.
    Nice card!

    Some would say the Ken Griffey Jr 89 Upper Deck started the junk wax era....






    "The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
     


  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,381
    I feel like the junk wax era was in high gear by 1988.  Especially Donruss and Score.  Awful cards and so so many of them. 
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore


  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,853
    myoung321 said:


    The card that started the 80s baseball card boom.
    Nice card!

    Some would say the Ken Griffey Jr 89 Upper Deck started the junk wax era....






    on2legs said:
    I feel like the junk wax era was in high gear by 1988.  Especially Donruss and Score.  Awful cards and so so many of them. 
    Junk wax is before that.  There is plenty of 1986 cards, which is the start.  87 is iconic but still massively overproduced.  1988 is the worst year of cards. 1989 is saved by Griffey rc's and nothing else. The birth of "foil packs" are upon us.  Soon gone are racks, wax and cellos where you can see some or parts of the cards and maybe even reseal them.  1990 you have Sosa and Thomas, 1991 is another awful year w a Chipper rc but still not worth anything.  1992 Manny Ramirez maybe?  Still horrible.  Ranks 2nd behind the 1988 year. 1993 has Jeter and still isn't that great. It is the beginning of super premium cards and something called "Finest". 1994 is the off year where they went on strike so people didn't buy those or the 95's.  1996 was the start of the cooler inserts and the cards ran off the presses even more. 97-99 is the same thing.  The cool inserts that were expensive are so hard to pull and so much product made that there are still cards just sitting in boxes.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,853
    myoung321 said:

    Here are a couple of RCs I need to get graded..

    1992 Topps Gold Shaquille O'Neal RC and the 2000 Upper Deck Black Diamond Brady RC  (scratches from glare are on the cases)



     



    Don't bother grading the Shaq.  Just buy a 10.  That one is off center and you'll get a 9 at best.  They are super tough with that card.  Any Brady is worth y of grading though.  Nice card.
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 40,711
    edited March 2023
    myoung321 said:

    Here are a couple of RCs I need to get graded..

    1992 Topps Gold Shaquille O'Neal RC and the 2000 Upper Deck Black Diamond Brady RC  (scratches from glare are on the cases)



     



    Don't bother grading the Shaq.  Just buy a 10.  That one is off center and you'll get a 9 at best.  They are super tough with that card.  Any Brady is worth y of grading though.  Nice card.
    Also that's not the gold version, this is (not my card). I have that exact same Shaq card as you do and a few other of his rookie cards also.
    Shaquille ONeal 1992 Topps Gold Basketball Rookie Card 362 Graded PSA 8


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    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,052
    myoung321 said:

    Here are a couple of RCs I need to get graded..

    1992 Topps Gold Shaquille O'Neal RC and the 2000 Upper Deck Black Diamond Brady RC  (scratches from glare are on the cases)



     



    Don't bother grading the Shaq.  Just buy a 10.  That one is off center and you'll get a 9 at best.  They are super tough with that card.  Any Brady is worth y of grading though.  Nice card.
    Also that's not the gold version, this is (not my card). I have that exact same Shaq card as you do and a few other of his rookie cards also.
    Shaquille ONeal 1992 Topps Gold Basketball Rookie Card 362 Graded PSA 8


    I recognize that design from the 1992-93 set. I collected a lot of basketball cards back then including some I sent away for autographs with mixed results.
    Reading 2004
    Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
    Chicago 2007
    Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
    Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
    Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
    Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
    Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
    Fenway 2, 2018
    MSG 2022
    St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
    "I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
    Things happen in the game. Nothing you
    can do. I don't go and say,
    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."
  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    myoung321 said:

    Here are a couple of RCs I need to get graded..

    1992 Topps Gold Shaquille O'Neal RC and the 2000 Upper Deck Black Diamond Brady RC  (scratches from glare are on the cases)



     



    Don't bother grading the Shaq.  Just buy a 10.  That one is off center and you'll get a 9 at best.  They are super tough with that card.  Any Brady is worth y of grading though.  Nice card.
    Also that's not the gold version, this is (not my card). I have that exact same Shaq card as you do and a few other of his rookie cards also.
    Shaquille ONeal 1992 Topps Gold Basketball Rookie Card 362 Graded PSA 8


    yeah you're right... wrong pic.. here ya go..there's the gold one.. 


    "The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
     


  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    My favorite card from the last few years...HAHAHA


    "The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
     


  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 40,711
    edited March 2023
    anyone remember these basketball cards from the early 80's?
    1980-81 Topps Basketball Checklist Set Info Details Reviews

    Luckily i didn't have this particular one but i did have one with Kareem on it and being a young kid I of course ripped them at the seam to make them three individual ones Pearl-Jam-Smileys:lol:



    Pearl-Jam-Smileys
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    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
  • JojoRiceJojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 3,873
    Here's some of the highlights from my collection....

    "I got memories, I got shit"

    ISO 2016 Greenville shirt. Size medium. PM me if you have one for sale/trade.
  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,408
    JojoRice said:
    Here's some of the highlights from my collection....

    Wow, you got some great graded cards!
  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    Nice collection!
    "The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
     


  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 40,711
    myoung321 said:
    Nice collection!
    yes, very nice. I have a few of those cards also (Chipper Jones,Ryne Sanberg, Bo Jackson, Cal Ripken, MJ)

    Also have a few signed baseballs. One with Mickey Mantles's autograph on it alone with a few older players (This was my dad's). couple former Phillies (Chase Utley, J-Roll, Ryan Howard, Scott Rolen). Also Bret Saberhagen and Javier Lopez. Those are the ones i rememebr anyway, might have to double check and see who else

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    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,853
    If any of you are in NY I’ll be at the Hofstra show in April.  Come find me.
  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 24,789
    I think I'm going to start searching on Ebay, do a little homework, and maybe start buying some of my favorite 50s and 60s cards.
    Maybe start with Ernie Banks, Billy Williams, and Roberto Clemente. Maybe buy some psa 4 or 5's. Nice cards, but not too expensive.
    Then maybe move on to Aaron. 

    I haven't used my ebay account in YEARS. Does it still work the same? 
    What are the payment options? I think I used to use paypal? 
    Does paypal still exist? 
    What are other payment options? 

    Aprreciate if anyone here could give me some direction? 

    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 24,789
    I think I'm going to start searching on Ebay, do a little homework, and maybe start buying some of my favorite 50s and 60s cards.
    Maybe start with Ernie Banks, Billy Williams, and Roberto Clemente. Maybe buy some psa 4 or 5's. Nice cards, but not too expensive.
    Then maybe move on to Aaron. 

    I haven't used my ebay account in YEARS. Does it still work the same? 
    What are the payment options? I think I used to use paypal? 
    Does paypal still exist? 
    What are other payment options? 

    Appreciate if anyone here could give me some direction? 

    Nevermind, Im all good. 
    And I am bidding on a 1959 Ernie Banks. 
    Hahaha
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,381
    ISO


    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore


  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 40,711
    on2legs said:
    ISO



    is this a real card? Looks like Dr. J.

    edit: googled it, never heard of that movie, didn't even know he was in a movie.
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    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,381
    on2legs said:
    ISO



    is this a real card? Looks like Dr. J.

    edit: googled it, never heard of that movie, didn't even know he was in a movie.
    Oscar worthy performance from my childhood! 
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore


  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    example of why you don't try to mail a graded card with just an envelope. I won this BCCG Dak Prescott for .01 and $5 shipping. Which at best the buyer will make a couple of dollars if shipped in bubble mailer.. They tried to cheap out and send in envelope with absolutely no padding or sandwiched between cardboard. 




    The card isn't really a big deal...  was going into a stack for a birthday present. It was literally broken in half and damaged the card, so its going in the trash now... good example of how not to mail a card..
    "The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
     


  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,853
    If I sell a graded card it goes in a box.  I never mail them in a padded envelope.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,853
    Oh yeah, Fanatics will be making Hockey Jerseys for the next ten years too.

    Hey are getting really big.  This from a company that sold wall mounted images got this far is amazing.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,853
    If you live on Long Island and reading this I’ll be at the Babylon show.
  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,381
    That seller used the eBay standard envelope postage to ship your card.  eBay came up with that method of shipping to make it cheaper to ship small flat items.  But they specifically say it’s not supposed to be used for graded cards.  One of the requirements of using the standard envelope is that it has to be thin enough to go through a postage reader.  I’m guessing your card lost the battle with the postage reader. 😂 


    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore


  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 24,789
    Need a little help here.

    I have some nice 58 and 59 baseball and football cards that are not PSA graded. And I have no plans on getting them graded. I just want to 
    put them in some decent card holders. 

    What are my best options? Right now they are sitting in top loaders, that are probably 20 years old.
    I am looking at the one screw holders. Are those good? Is there a certain thickness I should be looking for? 
    Like I said most of the cards are from the late 50s and early 60s. 

    If not the one screw holders, then what should I purchase? 
    And if you can attach a picture here, so I can see EXACTLY what I should purchase, I would appreciate it.
    Thanks. 


    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,853
    Need a little help here.

    I have some nice 58 and 59 baseball and football cards that are not PSA graded. And I have no plans on getting them graded. I just want to 
    put them in some decent card holders. 

    What are my best options? Right now they are sitting in top loaders, that are probably 20 years old.
    I am looking at the one screw holders. Are those good? Is there a certain thickness I should be looking for? 
    Like I said most of the cards are from the late 50s and early 60s. 

    If not the one screw holders, then what should I purchase? 
    And if you can attach a picture here, so I can see EXACTLY what I should purchase, I would appreciate it.
    Thanks. 



  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,381
    edited March 2023
    I’m sure you’ll get lots of great suggestions, but I’ve been using these holders lately and love them.  No more screws - they have a magnetic closure and they make for a nice presentation of cards that you’re not going to be getting graded.  I included an eBay link - not my auction - for some of the holders. 

    Post edited by on2legs on
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore


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