The Baseball Card Thread

mcgruff10

Used to be a big collector in the late 80s and early 90s.  This Winfield rookie card is still one of my faves.  

EddieJeffStoneMikeMattBoom

The card that started the 80s baseball card boom.

EddieJeffStoneMikeMattBoom

mcgruff10 said:

Used to be a big collector in the late 80s and early 90s.  This Winfield rookie card is still one of my faves.  

My best collecting memory as a kid in the mid 80s was putting together a hand collated 1974 Topps set with my dad. We even tracked down all the Washington Senators error cards. Good stuff! 

mcgruff10

EddieJeffStoneMikeMattBoom said:

The card that started the 80s baseball card boom.

A collector once told me that an autograph takes away from the value of a rookie card; any truth to this?  My dad was a mattingly nut!  Would collect anything and everything from him.  

SPEEDY MCCREADY

xavier mcdaniel said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Haven't bought a pack of cards in over 45 years, but back in the day I had some gems. 
I was more into the football cards. At one point I had 
3 rookie Walter Payton cards
Rookie Jim Brown, 2nd and 3rd year Brown.
Rookie Fran Tarkenton, also 2nd and 3rd year.
3rd year Johnny Unitas
Rookie Gale Sayers
Rookie Dick Butkus
Had many different Mays, Mantle, Aaron, Clemente, and other big names from the 50's and 60's. I still have a bunch of Ernie Banks from the 50 and 60's.

Still have most of the baseball cards but the football cards are long gone. 

Those are great. I have every topps set from 1984 through 1994 along with various fleers, donruss, score, bowman and a set of minor league cards. Also had the pro set cards and various NBA and NHL cards in the 1990s. Topps turned me off by selling the complete set as series one and two and I haven't bought one since then.

So, I pulled out some of the old cards today and there are 2 that really bring back some memories for me. 

I have a 59 Clemente .....My dad always said Clemente was the greatest player he ever daw

I have a 69 Reggie Jackson.....My mom let me stay up on October 18 1977 to watch game 6 of the World Series
Jackson hit 3 home runs
October 18 is my birthday.

xavier mcdaniel

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

xavier mcdaniel said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Haven't bought a pack of cards in over 45 years, but back in the day I had some gems. 
I was more into the football cards. At one point I had 
3 rookie Walter Payton cards
Rookie Jim Brown, 2nd and 3rd year Brown.
Rookie Fran Tarkenton, also 2nd and 3rd year.
3rd year Johnny Unitas
Rookie Gale Sayers
Rookie Dick Butkus
Had many different Mays, Mantle, Aaron, Clemente, and other big names from the 50's and 60's. I still have a bunch of Ernie Banks from the 50 and 60's.

Still have most of the baseball cards but the football cards are long gone. 

Those are great. I have every topps set from 1984 through 1994 along with various fleers, donruss, score, bowman and a set of minor league cards. Also had the pro set cards and various NBA and NHL cards in the 1990s. Topps turned me off by selling the complete set as series one and two and I haven't bought one since then.

So, I pulled out some of the old cards today and there are 2 that really bring back some memories for me. 

I have a 59 Clemente .....My dad always said Clemente was the greatest player he ever daw

I have a 69 Reggie Jackson.....My mom let me stay up on October 18 1977 to watch game 6 of the World Series
Jackson hit 3 home runs
October 18 is my birthday.

That's a terrific card I'm sure. Every time I've seen Reggie Jackson at a game, I can't help but think of him as the right fielder in the Naked Gun movie. I have Reggie cards towards the end of his career with the Angels and when he returned to the A's. Recently when I go through cards, I sort them by players who became managers/coaches or broadcasters.

tempo_n_groove

mcgruff10 said:

EddieJeffStoneMikeMattBoom said:

The card that started the 80s baseball card boom.

A collector once told me that an autograph takes away from the value of a rookie card; any truth to this?  My dad was a mattingly nut!  Would collect anything and everything from him.  

Back when you were collecting it was faux pas to get a RC card or any good card signed. Those days are long gone and signing cards is a big thing now. 

Trout will not sign one of his RC cards anymore unless through special commissions. 

Autos on card are a big deal. 

tempo_n_groove

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

xavier mcdaniel said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Haven't bought a pack of cards in over 45 years, but back in the day I had some gems. 
I was more into the football cards. At one point I had 
3 rookie Walter Payton cards
Rookie Jim Brown, 2nd and 3rd year Brown.
Rookie Fran Tarkenton, also 2nd and 3rd year.
3rd year Johnny Unitas
Rookie Gale Sayers
Rookie Dick Butkus
Had many different Mays, Mantle, Aaron, Clemente, and other big names from the 50's and 60's. I still have a bunch of Ernie Banks from the 50 and 60's.

Still have most of the baseball cards but the football cards are long gone. 

Those are great. I have every topps set from 1984 through 1994 along with various fleers, donruss, score, bowman and a set of minor league cards. Also had the pro set cards and various NBA and NHL cards in the 1990s. Topps turned me off by selling the complete set as series one and two and I haven't bought one since then.

So, I pulled out some of the old cards today and there are 2 that really bring back some memories for me. 

I have a 59 Clemente .....My dad always said Clemente was the greatest player he ever daw

I have a 69 Reggie Jackson.....My mom let me stay up on October 18 1977 to watch game 6 of the World Series
Jackson hit 3 home runs
October 18 is my birthday.

My first big RC card was the reggie 69. I still have it. My first big time RC card. 

I think it’s worth less now than when it was first purchased back in 84, lol. 

tempo_n_groove

on2legs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

on2legs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

on2legs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

on2legs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

on2legs said:

The irony is that if all those cards didn’t get tossed in the trash long ago, baseball cards would be worth a lot less today.  

Not entirely true.  Topps literally dumped truckloads of 1952 topps into the ocean/landfill.  The 52 Mantle is actually a double printed card.  Sometimes people just like the cards and nostalgia helps.

What part wasn't true?

Nostalgia is great and certainly helps, but people loved baseball in the 80s and those cards will never approach the values of the cards printed before they became a collectible no matter how much people love Don Mattingly. 

I get your point.  I am also stating that some cards are not necessarily rare like the 86 fleer basketball stuff or 89 Upper Deck, even 2011 topps update.  There are tons of it out there but it remains very sought after.

Now cards from the 30's and early 40's are a different animal.

I love the 86 Fleer basketball.  At the National I met the guy who is hoarding half the Johnny Moore PSA 10’s that are known to exist. He wanted like $60k each!  

There are only 67 of them...  Want to hear something stupid?  There are 66 Jeff Malones in a PSA 10... And nobody goes ape shit over that one...

EDIT:  Speaking of the National, did you see the Jordan Supercollector showing off every rare insert there was?  He had them all.  I was blown away by that one.  Most of those cards I had only seen on the web.

It's not about the player.  It's that one dealer is hoarding half the known PSA 10's for Johnny Moore. So he's basically controlling the market and if you want to put together a PSA 10 set you're likely going to have to go through that one guy to get a Johnny Moore.  My buddy and I were just about done for the day and we stopped to look at a table with a ton of 86 Fleer graded cards.  I saw the Johnny Moore card on the table with a price tag of 60k and I asked my buddy why it was worth that much.  Another customer near me overheard and said it was because one dealer owned almost all of them and was controlling the market.  At that point the dealer behind the table said, "Yeah... that's me but I actually only have half of them". 

I didn't see the Jordan collection... would have loved to see it. 

Ahhhhhhh, Now I get it.  So the PSA 10 seekers can only have like 30 complete sets.  That is amazing.

I am in need of a Derek Jeter 2003 PSA 10 card to complete my run.  There is one on Ebay right now for a cool $845.  F That.  There are only 36 of them so these are hard to come by.  I got lucky getting the 2001 PSA 10 and the 1993's came down from outer space from 2000 to under 400 now.

A Jeter PSA 10 run?!?  Nice work, Chris!! 

I have an album full of Jeter cards if you’re interested in.  LMK.  

Thx Tom  just like the jeter run I decided to do the Trout chrome refractor run  I actually need a bigger display now  this was the first pic I put on here now the cards are more discernible.

once I get that elusive 03 I’ll be a happy person  I might buy a dozen raw and try my luck  

eeriepadave

anyone remember these basketball cards from the early 80's?

Luckily i didn't have this particular one but i did have one with Kareem on it and being a young kid I of course ripped them at the seam to make them three individual ones

myoung321

not sports, but relevant...and kinda funny...lol

Saw this on ebay and sent a message to them asking about the grading service, which has the same name as the seller.... (see their response below) ... This is just a home made label in a screw down case.. crazy... 






 

myoung321

on2legs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

on2legs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

on2legs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

on2legs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

on2legs said:

The irony is that if all those cards didn’t get tossed in the trash long ago, baseball cards would be worth a lot less today.  

Not entirely true.  Topps literally dumped truckloads of 1952 topps into the ocean/landfill.  The 52 Mantle is actually a double printed card.  Sometimes people just like the cards and nostalgia helps.

What part wasn't true?

Nostalgia is great and certainly helps, but people loved baseball in the 80s and those cards will never approach the values of the cards printed before they became a collectible no matter how much people love Don Mattingly. 

I get your point.  I am also stating that some cards are not necessarily rare like the 86 fleer basketball stuff or 89 Upper Deck, even 2011 topps update.  There are tons of it out there but it remains very sought after.

Now cards from the 30's and early 40's are a different animal.

I love the 86 Fleer basketball.  At the National I met the guy who is hoarding half the Johnny Moore PSA 10’s that are known to exist. He wanted like $60k each!  

There are only 67 of them...  Want to hear something stupid?  There are 66 Jeff Malones in a PSA 10... And nobody goes ape shit over that one...

EDIT:  Speaking of the National, did you see the Jordan Supercollector showing off every rare insert there was?  He had them all.  I was blown away by that one.  Most of those cards I had only seen on the web.

It's not about the player.  It's that one dealer is hoarding half the known PSA 10's for Johnny Moore. So he's basically controlling the market and if you want to put together a PSA 10 set you're likely going to have to go through that one guy to get a Johnny Moore.  My buddy and I were just about done for the day and we stopped to look at a table with a ton of 86 Fleer graded cards.  I saw the Johnny Moore card on the table with a price tag of 60k and I asked my buddy why it was worth that much.  Another customer near me overheard and said it was because one dealer owned almost all of them and was controlling the market.  At that point the dealer behind the table said, "Yeah... that's me but I actually only have half of them". 

I didn't see the Jordan collection... would have loved to see it. 

Ahhhhhhh, Now I get it.  So the PSA 10 seekers can only have like 30 complete sets.  That is amazing.

I am in need of a Derek Jeter 2003 PSA 10 card to complete my run.  There is one on Ebay right now for a cool $845.  F That.  There are only 36 of them so these are hard to come by.  I got lucky getting the 2001 PSA 10 and the 1993's came down from outer space from 2000 to under 400 now.

A Jeter PSA 10 run?!?  Nice work, Chris!! 

I have an album full of Jeter cards if you’re interested in.  LMK.  

Depends on which one..one of the most sought after Jeter cards is the 1993 SP Foil #278 - The foil makes it harder to receive high grades, since it scratches and the edges chipped much easier than a normal card..

I'm lucky to have one, but haven't gotten it graded, yet..... Thinking it may be a 9... (Image is graded one for sale on ebay..)

 

myoung321

Here are a couple of RCs I need to get graded..

1992 Topps Gold Shaquille O'Neal RC and the 2000 Upper Deck Black Diamond Brady RC  (scratches from glare are on the cases)

 

myoung321

EddieJeffStoneMikeMattBoom said:

The card that started the 80s baseball card boom.

Nice card!

Some would say the Ken Griffey Jr 89 Upper Deck started the junk wax era....

on2legs

I feel like the junk wax era was in high gear by 1988.  Especially Donruss and Score.  Awful cards and so so many of them. 

tempo_n_groove

myoung321 said:

EddieJeffStoneMikeMattBoom said:

The card that started the 80s baseball card boom.

Nice card!

Some would say the Ken Griffey Jr 89 Upper Deck started the junk wax era....

on2legs said:

I feel like the junk wax era was in high gear by 1988.  Especially Donruss and Score.  Awful cards and so so many of them. 

Junk wax is before that.  There is plenty of 1986 cards, which is the start.  87 is iconic but still massively overproduced.  1988 is the worst year of cards. 1989 is saved by Griffey rc's and nothing else. The birth of "foil packs" are upon us.  Soon gone are racks, wax and cellos where you can see some or parts of the cards and maybe even reseal them.  1990 you have Sosa and Thomas, 1991 is another awful year w a Chipper rc but still not worth anything.  1992 Manny Ramirez maybe?  Still horrible.  Ranks 2nd behind the 1988 year. 1993 has Jeter and still isn't that great. It is the beginning of super premium cards and something called "Finest". 1994 is the off year where they went on strike so people didn't buy those or the 95's.  1996 was the start of the cooler inserts and the cards ran off the presses even more. 97-99 is the same thing.  The cool inserts that were expensive are so hard to pull and so much product made that there are still cards just sitting in boxes.

tempo_n_groove

myoung321 said:

Here are a couple of RCs I need to get graded..

1992 Topps Gold Shaquille O'Neal RC and the 2000 Upper Deck Black Diamond Brady RC  (scratches from glare are on the cases)

 

Don't bother grading the Shaq.  Just buy a 10.  That one is off center and you'll get a 9 at best.  They are super tough with that card.  Any Brady is worth y of grading though.  Nice card.

eeriepadave

tempo_n_groove said:

myoung321 said:

Here are a couple of RCs I need to get graded..

1992 Topps Gold Shaquille O'Neal RC and the 2000 Upper Deck Black Diamond Brady RC  (scratches from glare are on the cases)

 

Don't bother grading the Shaq.  Just buy a 10.  That one is off center and you'll get a 9 at best.  They are super tough with that card.  Any Brady is worth y of grading though.  Nice card.

Also that's not the gold version, this is (not my card). I have that exact same Shaq card as you do and a few other of his rookie cards also.

xavier mcdaniel

eeriepadave said:

tempo_n_groove said:

myoung321 said:

Here are a couple of RCs I need to get graded..

1992 Topps Gold Shaquille O'Neal RC and the 2000 Upper Deck Black Diamond Brady RC  (scratches from glare are on the cases)

 

Don't bother grading the Shaq.  Just buy a 10.  That one is off center and you'll get a 9 at best.  They are super tough with that card.  Any Brady is worth y of grading though.  Nice card.

Also that's not the gold version, this is (not my card). I have that exact same Shaq card as you do and a few other of his rookie cards also.

I recognize that design from the 1992-93 set. I collected a lot of basketball cards back then including some I sent away for autographs with mixed results.

myoung321

eeriepadave said:

tempo_n_groove said:

myoung321 said:

Here are a couple of RCs I need to get graded..

1992 Topps Gold Shaquille O'Neal RC and the 2000 Upper Deck Black Diamond Brady RC  (scratches from glare are on the cases)

 

Don't bother grading the Shaq.  Just buy a 10.  That one is off center and you'll get a 9 at best.  They are super tough with that card.  Any Brady is worth y of grading though.  Nice card.

Also that's not the gold version, this is (not my card). I have that exact same Shaq card as you do and a few other of his rookie cards also.

yeah you're right... wrong pic.. here ya go..there's the gold one..