Is the Vault vinyl series done?

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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,615
    I refuse to believe that "the vault" contains no more previously unreleased shows in quality good enough to make money off of. 
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,028
    Maybe 10 year anniversary releases are in the works for London, ONT and Wrigley shows
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  • SM187650
    SM187650 Canada Posts: 863
    Weston1283 said:
    Maybe 10 year anniversary releases are in the works for London, ONT and Wrigley shows
    ^this^ 
    Can’t end the series without London Ontario 2013. 
  • StardogChamp79
    StardogChamp79 Posts: 1,210
    SM187650 said:
    Weston1283 said:
    Maybe 10 year anniversary releases are in the works for London, ONT and Wrigley shows
    ^this^ 
    Can’t end the series without London Ontario 2013. 
    Yeah and PJ20 at Alpine! That has to be pressed!!!!
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,982
    I hope not.  It's our best bet for getting unreleased shows released in high quality audio.

    Even though I prefer unreleased material, I would like to see Atlanta '94 to keep the set complete.

    It doesn't seem like the announced it was over.  It felt like they listened to our thread asking them to put 1 and 2 on vinyl.. hopefully we get new stuff after Atlanta gets pressed :)


  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,717
    Where do people see signs that it would be over? What have I missed?

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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,461
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Where do people see signs that it would be over? What have I missed?

    The membership changes didn’t mention anything about access to vaults and Facebook. You know, the usual reliable sources! 
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  • KV4053
    KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,514
    I gave up on the last one because of the ill-defined shipping dates and my travel schedule. Got tired of melted vinyl
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  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,290
    JimmyV said:
    I refuse to believe that "the vault" contains no more previously unreleased shows in quality good enough to make money off of. 


    We do know most (all?) of the 98 shows were recorded, as that's when they had planned to start the bootleg series.

    It's also weird that they couldn't put Breath from MSG 98 on LO2L because payment reasons, but I know I've heard that song on SiriusXM.
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  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,290
    StardogChamp79 said:
    SM187650 said:
    Weston1283 said:
    Maybe 10 year anniversary releases are in the works for London, ONT and Wrigley shows
    ^this^ 
    Can’t end the series without London Ontario 2013. 
    Yeah and PJ20 at Alpine! That has to be pressed!!!!

    It's been said that the band didn't like the sound quality (the mix, perhaps?) and it seems like it was a result of too many guests. There could also be some royalty issues in there.

    But why not do a "best of" in sort of a format like LO2L or Let's Play Two? Seven or eight songs per night could work.
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  • Naked John
    Naked John Posts: 389
    Lost In Ohio said:
    JimmyV said:
    I refuse to believe that "the vault" contains no more previously unreleased shows in quality good enough to make money off of. 


    We do know most (all?) of the 98 shows were recorded, as that's when they had planned to start the bootleg series.

    It's also weird that they couldn't put Breath from MSG 98 on LO2L because payment reasons, but I know I've heard that song on SiriusXM.
    The band taped most of the shows. Any shows that the venue would not charge $10,000.00 to record (Both MSG+ 2 others, etc.) If the band knew what would happen on stage for at least 4 shows...they could have released them proper and retired. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,089
    Lost In Ohio said:
    JimmyV said:
    I refuse to believe that "the vault" contains no more previously unreleased shows in quality good enough to make money off of. 


    We do know most (all?) of the 98 shows were recorded, as that's when they had planned to start the bootleg series.

    It's also weird that they couldn't put Breath from MSG 98 on LO2L because payment reasons, but I know I've heard that song on SiriusXM.
    Why would they have to pay to have Breath on there? They have to lay royalties to the venue?
    I also remember reading, I think it was one of the Deep magazines a few years ago, that most of the 98 recordings were incomplete due to limitations on a mobile recording studio and tape changes mid song.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,424
    IF the vaults are indeed done, I’d love to see a pivot to releasing official post 2000 boots. Basic ass chipboard pocket sleeve with the black ink printing. 3-4 records inside. 
  • StardogChamp79
    StardogChamp79 Posts: 1,210
    edited March 2023
    I can see them waiting to see how this pressing goes with VMP and then releasing more in the future, with all the issues from pressing to delays to label flubs, etc. Honestly, I am surprised they are not hitting up Jack White and using his plant. Maybe they are probably hoping that having a reliable pressing plant in the US (VMP is in Colorado, right?) would be beneficial. I don't see them ending vinyl releases anytime soon, not with people forking out loads of cash for albums (not just PJ) and the popularity of vinyl still increasing. 
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  • js87130
    js87130 Posts: 90
    So where did all of this talk start about cancelling the vault series?  The last Vault (Vic Theater) was announced in the June '22 Newsletter.  
  • RB16012
    RB16012 Posts: 74
    mace1229 said:
    I also remember reading, I think it was one of the Deep magazines a few years ago, that most of the 98 recordings were incomplete due to limitations on a mobile recording studio and tape changes mid song.
    Interesting... DATs during that era could go at least 2 hours. Plenty of time to get to the encore to swap tapes (if someone was paying attention) with not much effort. 
  • fall by the wayside
    fall by the wayside Jericho, VT Posts: 759
    Tim Simmons said:
    IF the vaults are indeed done, I’d love to see a pivot to releasing official post 2000 boots. Basic ass chipboard pocket sleeve with the black ink printing. 3-4 records inside. 
    I like this idea. 
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,501
    axeljohan said:
    That they didn’t highlight vault releases as one of the perks of the new structured 10c-membership makes me think that there are no clear plan for future vault releases. We’ll see.
    I don't understand this reasoning? The clear plan for the last decade has been pre-order in summer, ship in winter. Why would anyone assume this has changed simply because Vaults didn't become a fan club item? They never have been.
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  • ZoSoTim
    ZoSoTim Posts: 1,410
    HesCalledDyer said:
    axeljohan said:
    That they didn’t highlight vault releases as one of the perks of the new structured 10c-membership makes me think that there are no clear plan for future vault releases. We’ll see.
    I don't understand this reasoning? The clear plan for the last decade has been pre-order in summer, ship in winter. Why would anyone assume this has changed simply because Vaults didn't become a fan club item? They never have been.
    You have to be a 10C member to order them, no?
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,501
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Where do people see signs that it would be over? What have I missed?

    You've only missed the hoops people jump through to come to these conclusions.
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