The all-purpose heavy duty Climate Chaos thread (sprinkled with hope).
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Hope is alive and well, I hung out w her over the weekend. She was giving shit to Despair. She says "hi" BTW.brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:
That's the "hope" part Brian!brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:So something positive for our oceans. We have had numerous shark sightings here on the south shore. That means that bait fish are in abundance, which they are and that the shark population is making a comeback.
We have had whales and Tuna just off the beaches.
it's pretty neat to see.
Sounds like good news. (We're always up for some good news!)
Thank goodness hope is not dead!
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tempo_n_groove said:
Hope is alive and well, I hung out w her over the weekend. She was giving shit to Despair. She says "hi" BTW.brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:
That's the "hope" part Brian!brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:So something positive for our oceans. We have had numerous shark sightings here on the south shore. That means that bait fish are in abundance, which they are and that the shark population is making a comeback.
We have had whales and Tuna just off the beaches.
it's pretty neat to see.
Sounds like good news. (We're always up for some good news!)
Thank goodness hope is not dead!
Tell here "hi" back. And her friend Charity as well.
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France is on fire. England is on fire, hottest day since records began. Texas is on fire. Apparently Cali is taking a brief rest from the fires?
As the planet burns, how to independents justify voting for any Republican at any level of government? Maybe I’ll get a both sides are the same debate?0 -
Lerxst1992 said:France is on fire. England is on fire, hottest day since records began. Texas is on fire. Apparently Cali is taking a brief rest from the fires?
As the planet burns, how to independents justify voting for any Republican at any level of government? Maybe I’ll get a both sides are the same debate?
So far this fire season, the largest fires California has had/ are going is the Electra fire at 4478 acres and 99% contained, and the Washburn Fire outside Yosemite currently at 4911 acres and 50% contained. That latter one is a concern due to its proximity to a grove of giant sequoia redwoods. Nevertheless, overall, a relatively quiet fires season so far.But the thing is, the worst of our fire season does not start until August and it can extend into November or even December. As always, we're hoping for good luck and less fire. I'm afraid it's too early for us to get overly optimistic. Maybe we'll be lucky (sprinkle of hope).But what you mentioned above points out the bigger concern in the bigger picture: global weather the issues resulting from climate change. I can only see a few reasons why Republicans in general are so cavalier all this. First of all, in their narrow interpretation of Christianity, they believe it's all Gods will any way so WTF, why worry. And, of course, they believe Jesus is going to whisk them off to heaven before things really get dicey (good luck with that.)
Another reason is because they are so focused on their disbelief in democracy and their hatred of anyone who is not on their "team", that the earth can burn and go to hell before they admit they are barking up the wrong burning tree.
My other theory- far fetched though it may be- is that the human species has subconscious suicidal tendencies that stem from guilt, fear, hatred of self, hatred of nature, and a need to control or die. Looks to me like we're going down either way.
But you never know (another sprinkle of hope, LOL)."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Well, Manchurian Joe is a “dem.” So yea, both sides.Lerxst1992 said:France is on fire. England is on fire, hottest day since records began. Texas is on fire. Apparently Cali is taking a brief rest from the fires?
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It doesn't matter what party is in powerLerxst1992 said:France is on fire. England is on fire, hottest day since records began. Texas is on fire. Apparently Cali is taking a brief rest from the fires?
As the planet burns, how to independents justify voting for any Republican at any level of government? Maybe I’ll get a both sides are the same debate?“Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It's not.”
That means starting at home reducing your fuel consumption, separating your compost and recyclables from your garbage, buying local, shopping at coops or farmers markets, unplugging your appliances when not in use, setting the AC higher, buying used, not buying every damn piece of plastic that PJ puts up for sale with a Psst. Mutual Aid, helping your neighbors, planting trees the whole nine yards. Sure individual citizens shouldn't have to do so much but corporations aren't going to do anything even if we get lucky and have 10 years of democrat rule, because there are always loopholes to exploit. Even if we had a democrat supermajority, the greening would only last until it started cutting into the bottom line of capital. Yes Dems are better than Rs as far as parties go, but lets not try to paint this as some simple black and white issue wherein everything is saved due to Democrats and Independents holding hands. We all need to do our part and that doesn't just mean voting and hoping that specialized agencies will take care of all of our problems.Scio me nihil scire
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It doesn't matter what party is in powerLerxst1992 said:France is on fire. England is on fire, hottest day since records began. Texas is on fire. Apparently Cali is taking a brief rest from the fires?
As the planet burns, how to independents justify voting for any Republican at any level of government? Maybe I’ll get a both sides are the same debate?“Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It's not.”
That means starting at home reducing your fuel consumption, separating your compost and recyclables from your garbage, buying local, shopping at coops or farmers markets, unplugging your appliances when not in use, setting the AC higher, buying used, not buying every damn piece of plastic that PJ puts up for sale with a Psst. Mutual Aid, helping your neighbors, planting trees the whole nine yards. Sure individual citizens shouldn't have to do so much but corporations aren't going to do anything even if we get lucky and have 10 years of democrat rule, because there are always loopholes to exploit. Even if we had a democrat supermajority, the greening would only last until it started cutting into the bottom line of capital. Yes Dems are better than Rs as far as parties go, but lets not try to paint this as some simple black and white issue wherein everything is saved due to Democrats and Independents holding hands. We all need to do our part and that doesn't just mean voting and hoping that specialized agencies will take care of all of our problems.Nailed it on all points.I agree, neither party alone is going to make enough of a difference. Dems more so, yes, but not enough. The only party that might make a difference would be a strong Green Party, but the U.S. has a very weak Green Party that does not attract strong candidates and siphons off some Dem votes (guilty as charge, but I'm in California, which almost always votes Dem- at least for POTUS- so any Green Party votes I made are a moot point).
So it boils down to the notion that the environmental crises we face today are probably not going to improve fast enough through weak legislation. Until strong green candidates get elected, progress will be too slow- as it has for decades under both parties.
Like you say, more of us as individuals need to get wise and do our part (including voting for candidates who might make a difference of course). It's the only thing that makes sense anymore.Also, a great point you made about watching where our dollars go, like what you mentioned about shopping at farmer's market (and food co-ops), instead of big chain supermarkets that get most of their products from afar.I would also encourage more of us to join and support organizations that are actually doing something and not just talking about it like politicians (sometimes) do. It feels great to see these kinds of groups take strong action. For example (to name a few):Sea Shepherd Conservation Society: They actively intervene in illegal fishing operations that kill whales other other endangered sea life.Wildlands Network: An organization dedicated to creating wild lands corridors for species migration. Those efforts slow or species extinction.Natural Resources Defense Council: They do great work taking to court the fight against big corp. polluters. An amazing outfit.And local organizations like our American River Conservancy, an outfit that has saved much green space along the American River here in California."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
“ 2010 watch it go to fire”
interesting you brought up religion Bri, because that’s what the prophet said, to do the evolution0 -
Lerxst1992 said:“ 2010 watch it go to fire”
interesting you brought up religion Bri, because that’s what the prophet said, to do the evolutionWise words from Saint Eddie!
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Why Joe, WHY?
Extreme heat warnings in effect in 28 states across US
100 million Americans are enduring searing temperatures as Biden declines to announce a climate emergency
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So yesterday I was out in this heat and nearly fell out... I've been riding my bike and drinking what I thought was a good amount of water so I thought I'd be good all day. For working in doors? Sure. For outdoors? Not even close. I downed 4 liters of water in a short period and peed once... And it was dark.
I need to hydrate better,
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Why were you peeing in the dark? Did the power go out?tempo_n_groove said:So yesterday I was out in this heat and nearly fell out... I've been riding my bike and drinking what I thought was a good amount of water so I thought I'd be good all day. For working in doors? Sure. For outdoors? Not even close. I downed 4 liters of water in a short period and peed once... And it was dark.
I need to hydrate better,
Be careful out there people.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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My pee was dark you loon, lol. Sign of dehydration.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why were you peeing in the dark? Did the power go out?tempo_n_groove said:So yesterday I was out in this heat and nearly fell out... I've been riding my bike and drinking what I thought was a good amount of water so I thought I'd be good all day. For working in doors? Sure. For outdoors? Not even close. I downed 4 liters of water in a short period and peed once... And it was dark.
I need to hydrate better,
Be careful out there people.0 -
Well, that probably made it easier to clean off the seat when the lights came back on, right?tempo_n_groove said:
My pee was dark you loon, lol. Sign of dehydration.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why were you peeing in the dark? Did the power go out?tempo_n_groove said:So yesterday I was out in this heat and nearly fell out... I've been riding my bike and drinking what I thought was a good amount of water so I thought I'd be good all day. For working in doors? Sure. For outdoors? Not even close. I downed 4 liters of water in a short period and peed once... And it was dark.
I need to hydrate better,
Be careful out there people.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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tempo_n_groove said:
My pee was dark you loon, lol. Sign of dehydration.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why were you peeing in the dark? Did the power go out?tempo_n_groove said:So yesterday I was out in this heat and nearly fell out... I've been riding my bike and drinking what I thought was a good amount of water so I thought I'd be good all day. For working in doors? Sure. For outdoors? Not even close. I downed 4 liters of water in a short period and peed once... And it was dark.
I need to hydrate better,
Be careful out there people.
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You know how many people don't know that little tidbit?Lerxst1992 said:tempo_n_groove said:
My pee was dark you loon, lol. Sign of dehydration.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why were you peeing in the dark? Did the power go out?tempo_n_groove said:So yesterday I was out in this heat and nearly fell out... I've been riding my bike and drinking what I thought was a good amount of water so I thought I'd be good all day. For working in doors? Sure. For outdoors? Not even close. I downed 4 liters of water in a short period and peed once... And it was dark.
I need to hydrate better,
Be careful out there people.
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tempo_n_groove said:
You know how many people don't know that little tidbit?Lerxst1992 said:tempo_n_groove said:
My pee was dark you loon, lol. Sign of dehydration.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why were you peeing in the dark? Did the power go out?tempo_n_groove said:So yesterday I was out in this heat and nearly fell out... I've been riding my bike and drinking what I thought was a good amount of water so I thought I'd be good all day. For working in doors? Sure. For outdoors? Not even close. I downed 4 liters of water in a short period and peed once... And it was dark.
I need to hydrate better,
Be careful out there people.
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how could any adult not know that?tempo_n_groove said:
You know how many people don't know that little tidbit?Lerxst1992 said:tempo_n_groove said:
My pee was dark you loon, lol. Sign of dehydration.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why were you peeing in the dark? Did the power go out?tempo_n_groove said:So yesterday I was out in this heat and nearly fell out... I've been riding my bike and drinking what I thought was a good amount of water so I thought I'd be good all day. For working in doors? Sure. For outdoors? Not even close. I downed 4 liters of water in a short period and peed once... And it was dark.
I need to hydrate better,
Be careful out there people.
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