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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    heartofadog said:
    unknown said:
    This is what made the band unique.  It’s kind of depressing seeing a 20 song set.  
    Hmm to me what made the band unique is they have one of the best singers in rock 'n' roll, ever; maybe the best drummer of the modern rock era; a rhythm guitarist who wrote a handful of the most iconic riffs of the last 30 years; a lead guitarist who is widely considered to be among the best rock lead guitarists ever; and a bass player who is considered one of the 5-10 best rock bassists of the last 30 years. Oh and a catalog of songs that really has no rival among the band's peers over the last 30+ years.

    Surprising to find out that this whole time it was just those 7-10 extra songs they played during sets between 2003 - 2018.
    This is very well said.  The idea that the length of the shows is what sets Pearl Jam apart, and not the band's music, reminds me of the old joke about the restaurant where the food is so bad and they give you such small portions.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    Discopij said:
    cblock4life said:
    My son and I were just discussing this today.  He’s a huge DMB fan and travels everywhere to see them just as we do with PJ.  He asked me why I thought the sets weren’t as long any more and I told him to really think about it….I’m the same age as these guys and it’s a bitch just getting out of bed some days.  They owe us no explanations, yet I realize they spend a lot of  time thinking about their fans more than any other band I know of.  
     My husband spent Wednesday teaching children baseball at a camp and the special speaker was Ian Happ.  My husband intentionally walked him the last time he saw him at a high school game he was coaching against him and Ian remembered that.  The interesting part is the amount of praise and compliments he conveyed about Mr. Vedder (Ian saw all our pj stickers on our jeep).  So please, let’s not get ignorant or assume it’s one band members choice versus the rest to cut the set list.  This band, these men AND their
    families are good, normal people who give and give and give to their fans and their foundations, etc., and the band members aren’t young anymore, and they lost two years on stage due to covid.  Just be happy they’re together, still playing and traveling.  I’m just not going to allow anyone to bash them anymore without speaking the truth. 
    I think you’d find most fans care for and very much respect all members of the band.  We’re simply discussing our feelings about the major change in live performances … which happens to be the thing most of us have enjoyed the most about the band over the last 20 years
    Oh yes I totally agree/understand people being disappointed and I wasn’t trying to bash people for their disappointment, so my apologies because it probably came off that way, however, knowing quite a few people who spend quite a bit of time with Ed I’m going to defend them against some comments.
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    pjhawks said:
    DEGBTI said:
    Haven't professional athletes had covid? they seem to be able to still perform at a high level. Hasn't everyone pretty much had covid and yet we still go to work everyday? The reason being covid is kind of a lame excuse 
    Professional athletes aren’t in their 50s.
    Professional athletes also generally don't chain-smoke cigarettes for several years in the prime of their careers.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • StardogChamp79
    StardogChamp79 Posts: 1,190
    Be happy the band is still ALIVE. 
    Alpine Valley Music Theatre East Troy, Wisconsin (September 03, 2011); Alpine Valley Music Theatre East Troy, Wisconsin (September 04, 2011); Deluna Fest Pensacola, FL (September 21, 2012); Wrigley Field (July 19, 2013); Milwaukee, WI (October 20, 2014); Wrigley Field I (August 20, 2016); Wrigley Field II (August 22, 2016); Home Shows Seattle Night 1 (August 08, 2018); Home Shows Seattle Night 2 (August 10, 2018); Ohana Festival Dana Point (September 27th - 29th, 2019); Apollo Theater (September 10, 2022); Madison Square Garden (September 11, 2022), Bourbon & Beyond Louisville (September 17th, 2022); Las Vegas (May 16th, 2024); Las Vegas (May 18th, 2024).
  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    BF25394 said:
    pjhawks said:
    DEGBTI said:
    Haven't professional athletes had covid? they seem to be able to still perform at a high level. Hasn't everyone pretty much had covid and yet we still go to work everyday? The reason being covid is kind of a lame excuse 
    Professional athletes aren’t in their 50s.
    Professional athletes also generally don't chain-smoke cigarettes for several years in the prime of their careers.
    He still smokes doesn’t he?
    thought so. 
  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    BF25394 said:
    pjhawks said:
    DEGBTI said:
    Haven't professional athletes had covid? they seem to be able to still perform at a high level. Hasn't everyone pretty much had covid and yet we still go to work everyday? The reason being covid is kind of a lame excuse 
    Professional athletes aren’t in their 50s.
    Professional athletes also generally don't chain-smoke cigarettes for several years in the prime of their careers.
    Very true!  I’ve only known one -
     Jack Delaplane 
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,940
    BF25394 said:
    pjhawks said:
    DEGBTI said:
    Haven't professional athletes had covid? they seem to be able to still perform at a high level. Hasn't everyone pretty much had covid and yet we still go to work everyday? The reason being covid is kind of a lame excuse 
    Professional athletes aren’t in their 50s.
    Professional athletes also generally don't chain-smoke cigarettes for several years in the prime of their careers.
    No most smoke weed 
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    Cropduster-80 said:
    BF25394 said:
    pjhawks said:
    DEGBTI said:
    Haven't professional athletes had covid? they seem to be able to still perform at a high level. Hasn't everyone pretty much had covid and yet we still go to work everyday? The reason being covid is kind of a lame excuse 
    Professional athletes aren’t in their 50s.
    Professional athletes also generally don't chain-smoke cigarettes for several years in the prime of their careers.
    He still smokes doesn’t he?
    thought so. 
    If he does, that only reinforces my point.  Smoking is bad for the lungs, and so is COVID.  The 58-year-old inveterate cigarette smoker is not similarly situated to the 30-year-old pro athlete.

    Anyway, the point about COVID isn't strictly about the effect the disease may have had on band members who had bouts with it.  It's about the fact that the dozen shows they've played since the pandemic started are happening in a very different environment than the one in which they last played shows in 2018, and that could affect a lot of different aspects of how they approach playing shows.

    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • jimjam1982
    jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,471
    DEGBTI said:
    Haven't professional athletes had covid? they seem to be able to still perform at a high level. Hasn't everyone pretty much had covid and yet we still go to work everyday? The reason being covid is kind of a lame excuse 
    Covid is a non factor. I had it after LA or Phx. It was barely a cold. I was better in 72 hours and fatigued for a week. This is not, will not and will never be the logic for shorter shows. There is a sect of this club that dwells on it like ita the plague. 
  • Gravey1975
    Gravey1975 Posts: 342
    edited June 2022
    jimjam1982 said:
    DEGBTI said:
    Haven't professional athletes had covid? they seem to be able to still perform at a high level. Hasn't everyone pretty much had covid and yet we still go to work everyday? The reason being covid is kind of a lame excuse 
    Covid is a non factor. I had it after LA or Phx. It was barely a cold. I was better in 72 hours and fatigued for a week. This is not, will not and will never be the logic for shorter shows. There is a sect of this club that dwells on it like ita the plague. 
    If there's one thing we know about covid it's that it affects everyone differently. Some are non-symptomatic,  some are hospitalised,  some have long covid. 

    It may or may not be the reason for the shortened setlists. No one knows. But I'm not surprised that folks are trying to get their heads around such a dramatic change. 
    Post edited by Gravey1975 on
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    jimjam1982 said:
    DEGBTI said:
    Haven't professional athletes had covid? they seem to be able to still perform at a high level. Hasn't everyone pretty much had covid and yet we still go to work everyday? The reason being covid is kind of a lame excuse 
    Covid is a non factor. I had it after LA or Phx. It was barely a cold. I was better in 72 hours and fatigued for a week. This is not, will not and will never be the logic for shorter shows. There is a sect of this club that dwells on it like ita the plague. 
    Be better
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • bazfromoz
    bazfromoz Posts: 256
    These blokes are all pushing 60 years old. If you aren’t winding back your work schedule by this stage of life then you have a problem. Good on them for still doing it at all. 
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,277
    bazfromoz said:
    These blokes are all pushing 60 years old. If you aren’t winding back your work schedule by this stage of life then you have a problem. Good on them for still doing it at all. 
    Would you consider their “tour” schedule not winding down? Their album output winding down? 
  • unknown
    unknown Posts: 531
    Say what you want about third eye blind, they change their setlist and play over 3 hours
  • Gravey1975
    Gravey1975 Posts: 342
    bazfromoz said:
    These blokes are all pushing 60 years old. If you aren’t winding back your work schedule by this stage of life then you have a problem. Good on them for still doing it at all. 
    Was always gonna happen at some point. The big surprise is just how dramatically it has been cut back. Which is why there's some wild speculation. 
  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,409
    Still amazed Paul McCartney is pumping out 35+ songs a night pushing 80 years old. His voice is noticeably weaker though, which is completely understandable.
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited June 2022
    OceansJenny said:
    Still amazed Paul McCartney is pumping out 35+ songs a night pushing 80 years old. His voice is noticeably weaker though, which is completely understandable.
    I’ve never seen McCartney unfortunately 

    wasn’t a typical Beatles show like 30-45 minutes? I assume Paul plays longer (not sure how 35 songs translates into hours).
    Post edited by Cropduster-80 on
  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,409
    Cropduster-80 said:
    OceansJenny said:
    Still amazed Paul McCartney is pumping out 35+ songs a night pushing 80 years old. His voice is noticeably weaker though, which is completely understandable.
    I’ve never seen McCartney unfortunately 

    wasn’t a typical Beatles show like 30-45 minutes? I assume Paul plays longer (not sure how 35 songs translates into hours).
    About 2hr 40min
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
  • bazfromoz
    bazfromoz Posts: 256
    nicknyr15 said:
    bazfromoz said:
    These blokes are all pushing 60 years old. If you aren’t winding back your work schedule by this stage of life then you have a problem. Good on them for still doing it at all. 
    Would you consider their “tour” schedule not winding down? Their album output winding down? 
    I’d consider the fact that they don’t need to play at all. Soon it will be 10 shows or less per year and then people will yearn for the good old days of 30 shows a year and 22 song sets. 
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    It was said they were going to change things up well before the tour. So here we are. 
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