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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,611
    never thought i would see the day.  

    A Supreme Court packed with political/religious operatives is a destructive thing
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    GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 9,835
    I am devastated, but not surprised. So in two days this court gave more people the right to carry and conceal guns, and took away the right to a safe and legal abortion for many. Tragedy all around.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,949
    Makes that stolen seat pretty important....
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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,192
    MayDay10 said:
    never thought i would see the day.  

    A Supreme Court packed with political/religious operatives is a destructive thing
    agree. stunning but not you know.  can't believe how backwards we are going in this country.  disgraceful
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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,937
    GlowGirl said:
    I am devastated, but not surprised. So in two days this court gave more people the right to carry and conceal guns, and took away the right to a safe and legal abortion for many. Tragedy all around.
    I've thought this was inevitable since listening to this podcast back in May - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-yale-law-professor-who-is-anti-roe-but-pro-choice/id1570872415?i=1000560474755

    Really informative listen where the host interviews a Yale law professor who's anti-Roe and also pro-Choice, and has quoted extensively in Supreme Court rulings.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    holy fucking hell. unreal. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

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    PP193448PP193448 Here Posts: 4,281
    So it’s back to the states to decide.  Therefore, it needs to be on ballots to be voted on by every citizen who decides to vote.
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,113
    hope independents are happy voting for their belief the presidents role in gas prices is more important than womens rights and the ability to have the streets flooded with guns.

    just keep “politics” out of the pooch and we’re all good, man. That’s what’s most important to a liberal bands fans anyway.
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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,378
    Fucking terrible. I do not recognize this country anymore. Fuck.
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    GlowGirl said:
    I am devastated, but not surprised. So in two days this court gave more people the right to carry and conceal guns, and took away the right to a safe and legal abortion for many. Tragedy all around.
    I’m way past my time of having a child (chose not to) but as a woman — as a human being — I agree with this.

    Incredibly sad. 
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    hope that protest vote was worth it
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,822
    CM189191 said:
    hope that protest vote was worth it
    What? They're both the same! (note; sarcasm)
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,580
    Thanks Bernie. Nice job.
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    Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited June 2022
    Here we go 

    Justice Clarence Thomas, concurring with the majority ruling, explicitly called on the Supreme Court to overrule Griswold, which protects the right to contraception, Lawrence, the right to same-sex intimacy and Obergefell, the right to same-sex marriage.

    He wants to 
    1. Allow states to ban birth control
    2. Allow states to make gay sex a crime punishable by prison 
    3. Allow states to outlaw same sex marriage 

    He said it right in the opinion… in writing 
    and you can bet many states will do all 3 as soon as they can 
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,711
    Let’s hope we can keep the upcoming protests peaceful and not stoop down to that level. 
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    HobbesHobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,383
    First time the court has overturned a constitutional right. Thomas now taking aim at contraception, same sex relationships, and same sex marriage. Hey, CT, wonder what originalists think about interracial marriage.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,283
    nicknyr15 said:
    Let’s hope we can keep the upcoming protests peaceful and not stoop down to that level. 
    It will be until the PB show up to instigate violence! 
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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Thanks Bernie. Nice job.
    Is this a joke? I don't know about where you live, but Bernie wasn't on the ballot here. I suppose folks could've written him in...?
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    Cropduster-80 said:
    Here we go 

    Justice Clarence Thomas, concurring with the majority ruling, explicitly called on the Supreme Court to overrule Griswold, which protects the right to contraception, Lawrence, the right to same-sex intimacy and Obergefell, the right to same-sex marriage.

    He wants to 
    1. Allow states to ban birth control
    2. Allow states to make gay sex a crime punishable by prison 
    3. Allow states to outlaw same sex marriage 

    He said it right in the opinion… in writing 
    and you can bet many states will do all 3 as soon as they can 
    since when is the SCOTUS an activist organization? they are supposed to rule/opine on things brought forth to them, not issues they deem worthy of exploration. unbelievable. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

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    jerparker20jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,401
    And let’s not forget RGB’s selfish refusal to step down under Obama when the Dems controlled Congress. 
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,822
    dankind said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Thanks Bernie. Nice job.
    Is this a joke? I don't know about where you live, but Bernie wasn't on the ballot here. I suppose folks could've written him in...?
    Hillary failed a lot of purity tests.

    That said, perhaps it turns out that both parties are not the same...
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,822
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Cropduster-80 said:
    Here we go 

    Justice Clarence Thomas, concurring with the majority ruling, explicitly called on the Supreme Court to overrule Griswold, which protects the right to contraception, Lawrence, the right to same-sex intimacy and Obergefell, the right to same-sex marriage.

    He wants to 
    1. Allow states to ban birth control
    2. Allow states to make gay sex a crime punishable by prison 
    3. Allow states to outlaw same sex marriage 

    He said it right in the opinion… in writing 
    and you can bet many states will do all 3 as soon as they can 
    since when is the SCOTUS an activist organization? they are supposed to rule/opine on things brought forth to them, not issues they deem worthy of exploration. unbelievable. 
    There's a cliché rooted in all kinds of truth: Every conservative accusation is a confession. They've been whining about "activist judges" for decades. That was the first sign. 
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    Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited June 2022
    nicknyr15 said:
    Let’s hope we can keep the upcoming protests peaceful and not stoop down to that level. 


    if the reverse happened and gun rights were taken away we would have a civil war on our hands.  Surely violent riots, and everyone would be terrified 

    no one is afraid of what the pro choice people will do. Their reaction was not a factor in the decision, not even a little bit. People are very afraid of the hard right. They also use that fear to get stuff done 

    I’m not advocating anything but the right absolutely uses intimidation, and it works.  


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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,949
    jerparker20 said:
    And let’s not forget RGB’s selfish refusal to step down under Obama when the Dems controlled Congress. 
    The focus should be on the stolen seat....RGB didn't know she was going to die
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,580
    dankind said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Thanks Bernie. Nice job.
    Is this a joke? I don't know about where you live, but Bernie wasn't on the ballot here. I suppose folks could've written him in...?
    Would Hillary have given us the three stooges of SCOTUS appointments? Don’t know where you live but Bernie’s failure to endorse Hillary and pretending he could beat POOTWH and be elected as a socialist certainly bears responsibility for today’s and future decisions. The Bernie protest voters own this.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    I don't know that RBG "refused" to do anything. was there a strong advocacy by the Obama admin for her to resign?
    Darwinspeed, all. 

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    Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited June 2022
    A month ago we opened a special savings account.  It’s the fly to Canada/Europe fund in case my sons ever get their partners pregnant and she decides that is what she wants .  My oldest is 9 so we’ve got some time as a nationwide ban is coming 

    at the end of the day this ruling does nothing…. Unless you can’t afford it. That almost makes it worse as abortion will always be available if you have the resources. Always 

    it’s really just another poverty tax that keeps people where they are 


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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    Cropduster-80 said:
    A month ago we opened a special savings account.  It’s the fly to Canada/Europe fund in case my sons ever get their partners pregnant and she decides that is what she wants .  My oldest is 9 so we’ve got some time 

    at the end of the day this ruling does nothing…. Unless you can’t afford it. That almost makes it worse as abortion will always be available if you have the resources. Always 

    it’s really just another poverty tax that keeps people where they are 


    I just posted the same point on facebook. This is a rule for the poor. no chance these faux lifers won't pay for a back room/out of state abortion for their mistress or daughter should the "need" arise. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,283
    lol I wonder how many abortions TFG paid for? 
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