Roe v Wade

CROJAM95

Ginni & ACB are gonna have a great time at the next CULT Meeting

Fuckin GINNI....Go fuck yourself, and that dumbass nickname. He should be kicked out ASAP per her nonsense with Trump

In 24hrs the Court showed everyone we arent much better than Russia, how Ironic

static111

PP193448 said:

CM189191 said:

CM189191 said:

hope that protest vote was worth it

https://twitter.com/Pappiness/status/1540354323976056832?t=aQdHw273vQOiBJfrDLLAhQ&s=19

It’s really the consequence of not making legitimate reproductive laws through Congress since 1973.  Why has this not been done???  

Because of Bernie obviously

static111

CROJAM95 said:

Ginni & ACB are gonna have a great time at the next CULT Meeting

Fuckin GINNI....Go fuck yourself, and that dumbass nickname. He should be kicked out ASAP per her nonsense with Trump

In 24hrs the Court showed everyone we arent much better than Russia, how Ironic

Were some people still living in this illusion?

Halifax2TheMax

dankind said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

dankind said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Thanks Bernie. Nice job.

Is this a joke? I don't know about where you live, but Bernie wasn't on the ballot here. I suppose folks could've written him in...?

Would Hillary have given us the three stooges of SCOTUS appointments? Don’t know where you live but Bernie’s failure to endorse Hillary and pretending he could beat POOTWH and be elected as a socialist certainly bears responsibility for today’s and future decisions. The Bernie protest voters own this.

I thought that he did endorse Hillary, albeit coldly, similar to his Biden endorsement. So I Googled it, and the headlines on July 12, 2016, were that that this endorsement did indeed take place in an effort to “unite” the party. 

Anyway, I never considered voting for him because of my ageism. But I didn’t know that there was a large contingent of Bernie protest voters, so I Googled it. Turns out, there wasn’t. A weak queef of 0.08% of the vote tally was Bernie write-ins. Not even a dent. Maybe a scratch? The Nader shamers (and Nader voter shamers) maybe kinda sorta had a political point to make in 2000 because he was on the ballot and received an earth-shattering 2.74% of the vote, not even enough to get his fledgling party federal funding. 

Is this more of an influence in the zeitgeist/cult of personality thing that you’re blaming him for? Because that seems misdirected. The media (Russian-tainted social media included, of course, in 2016) and the electorate play larger roles than the individual politician there, I’d argue.

And I genuinely thought you might be joking in the old “thanks, Obama” vein, but I saw other posters pointing the finger in his (and his supporters’) general direction as well and then began to wonder if you were. 

Thanks for the explanation. 

Its not that voters wrote Bernie in as a protest vote, its that Bernie's "cold" endorsement and his supporters sour grapes, i.e. the #neverhillary crowd that Bernie spawned, either voted POOTWH, third party or stayed home. And this is what it got them. 6%-12% of Bernie supporters ended up voting POOTWH. I don't know what the number of total Bernie supporters is/was but I'd fathom a brain fart that 6%-12% of whatever number it is, would have been enough to put Hillary in the White House and maybe, just maybe, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Good day.

PS: Don't get pregnant unless you want to.

1 In 10 Bernie Sanders Supporters Ended Up Voting For Trump : NPR

New data is shedding light, however, on Sanders’s role in the last election — and on how many Sanders voters ended up supporting Trump. It’s a question many in the party will be asking about a candidate who may want to compete again for the Democratic nomination.

How many Sanders voters voted for Donald Trump?

Two surveys estimate that 12 percent of Sanders voters voted for Trump. A third survey suggests it was 6 percent.

First, the political scientist Brian Schaffner analyzed the Cooperative Congressional Election Study, which was conducted by YouGov and interviewed 64,600 Americans in October-November 2016. In that survey, Schaffner found that 12 percent of people who voted in the primary and reported voting for Sanders also voted in November and reported voting for Trump.

Schaffner examined only voters whose turnout in the primary and general election could be validated using voter file data. This excludes people who said they voted but actually did not — although it also excludes people who voted in caucuses or party-run primaries, for which validated turnout data are not as readily available.

Second, the same 12 percent figure emerges in the 2016 VOTER Survey, which was also conducted by YouGov and overseen by the Democracy Fund Voter Study Group (of which I am research director). In 2016, this survey interviewed 8,000 respondents in July, when they were asked their primary vote preference, and then in December, when they were asked their general election preference. This has the advantage of measuring primary preference closer to the primaries themselves and then tracking people over time. But their turnout in both elections has not been validated as of yet.

The third survey is the RAND Presidential Election Panel Survey, which interviewed the same group of about 3,000 Americans six times during the campaign. Again, this survey has the advantage of tracking voters over time, but nobody’s turnout has been validated. Among voters who reported supporting Sanders as of March 2016, 6 percent then reported voting for Trump in November.

Did enough Bernie Sanders supporters vote for Trump to cost Clinton the election? - The Washington Post

In Clinton’s March to Nomination, Many Democrats Changed Their Minds | Pew Research Center

Cropduster-80

PP193448 said:

CM189191 said:

CM189191 said:

hope that protest vote was worth it

https://twitter.com/Pappiness/status/1540354323976056832?t=aQdHw273vQOiBJfrDLLAhQ&s=19

It’s really the consequence of not making legitimate reproductive laws through Congress since 1973.  Why has this not been done???  

Why would you.

Roe v Wade was the law. Congress could have codified it specifically since then, but it has always been a divisive issue.  Why vote on something you don’t have to?

you couldn’t even get a law making lynching a federal crime until recently.  If you can’t get people to take a vote on that, how in the world are you getting them to vote on codifying abortion when they don’t have to 

 

gimmesometruth27

white evangelicals will not stop until they oppress the whole world.

gimmesometruth27

so, just to sum up the supreme court's week this week:

life begins at conception and ends in a mass shooting.

HughFreakingDillon

gimmesometruth27 said:

so, just to sum up the supreme court's week this week:

life begins at conception and ends in a mass shooting.

EVERY DEMOCRAT SHOULD USE THAT IN THEIR POLITICAL ATTACK ADS

Cropduster-80

gimmesometruth27 said:

so, just to sum up the supreme court's week this week:

life begins at conception and ends in a mass shooting.

Yep.

I just don’t see how they can be so passionate about protecting the  unborn and then leave it at that 

once they are born, they do absolutely everything they can to fight anything aimed at  making sure they are fed, clothed, have access to healthcare, fund their schools at a reasonable level,  or make sure they are reasonably protected at school or anywhere else.

it’s the governments responsibility to make sure they are born. After that the government has no role 

Ledbetterman10

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Hobbes

Cropduster-80 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

so, just to sum up the supreme court's week this week:

life begins at conception and ends in a mass shooting.

Yep.

I just don’t see how they can be so passionate about protecting the  unborn and then leave it at that 

once they are born, they do absolutely everything they can to fight anything aimed at  making sure they are fed, clothed, have access to healthcare, fund their schools at a reasonable level,  or make sure they are reasonably protected at school or anywhere else.

it’s the governments responsibility to make sure they are born. After that the government has no role 

Policy and politics of the extreme left. Some say we should ignore that.

Get_Right

I am embarrassed to be an American man and a lawyer. Again. WTF is wrong with this country?

Halifax2TheMax

Pro-life until you’re born. Then it’s pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

Lerxst1992

PP193448 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

if the constitution doesn't explicitly state abortion, making it overturnable, the constitution doesn't explicitly state what type of arms either, making that overturnable. 

muskets only. fuck em. everyone else? 10 year prison term. or castration. you choose. 

We need term limits for Congress and Courts.  No permanent politicians paid off by lobbyists and big corp.  And ignore the extreme left and extreme right.

The right is loyal and shows up to vote, especially in off years, when the senate is often decided. This likely cost the left RBG and Scalia’s seat. With those two, it’d be a 5-4 liberal court and this weeks historically drastic opinions would not have existed. Without voters joining us, this is the America we are getting.

Too many people, who want common sense gun reform and to protect womens rights, either get turned off by politics or don’t bother to show up every year.

Term limits in the court will never happen unless every single election year in the foreseeable future is a blue wave. Until then, we all get to enjoy unlimited guns on our streets and in our schools, and women gettin hauled off to jail. 

Cropduster-80

Lerxst1992 said:

PP193448 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

if the constitution doesn't explicitly state abortion, making it overturnable, the constitution doesn't explicitly state what type of arms either, making that overturnable. 

muskets only. fuck em. everyone else? 10 year prison term. or castration. you choose. 

We need term limits for Congress and Courts.  No permanent politicians paid off by lobbyists and big corp.  And ignore the extreme left and extreme right.

The right is loyal and shows up to vote, especially in off years, when the senate is often decided. This likely cost the left RBG and Scalia’s seat. With those two, it’d be a 5-4 liberal court and this weeks historically drastic opinions would not have existed. Without voters joining us, this is the America we are getting.

Too many people, who want common sense gun reform and to protect womens rights, either get turned off by politics or don’t bother to show up every year.

Term limits in the court will never happen unless every single election year in the foreseeable future is a blue wave. Until then, we all get to enjoy unlimited guns on our streets and in our schools, and women gettin hauled off to jail. 

It’s already set up that if the democrats win they cheated.

no democratic majority will ever be seen as legitimate to the slightly less than 50 percent minority 

that train has left the station. Voting only matters if the winner is accepted by the country. Those days are gone 

brianlux

So weird to wake up and realize, yes, you really do live in an autocratic nation run by people who don't want women to have rights and who pretend to care about children yet don't want to do anything to stop them from being mowed down at school.  No, it was not just a bad dream, it is the way of this country today.

Lerxst1992

Halifax2TheMax said:

dankind said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

dankind said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Thanks Bernie. Nice job.

Is this a joke? I don't know about where you live, but Bernie wasn't on the ballot here. I suppose folks could've written him in...?

Would Hillary have given us the three stooges of SCOTUS appointments? Don’t know where you live but Bernie’s failure to endorse Hillary and pretending he could beat POOTWH and be elected as a socialist certainly bears responsibility for today’s and future decisions. The Bernie protest voters own this.

I thought that he did endorse Hillary, albeit coldly, similar to his Biden endorsement. So I Googled it, and the headlines on July 12, 2016, were that that this endorsement did indeed take place in an effort to “unite” the party. 

Anyway, I never considered voting for him because of my ageism. But I didn’t know that there was a large contingent of Bernie protest voters, so I Googled it. Turns out, there wasn’t. A weak queef of 0.08% of the vote tally was Bernie write-ins. Not even a dent. Maybe a scratch? The Nader shamers (and Nader voter shamers) maybe kinda sorta had a political point to make in 2000 because he was on the ballot and received an earth-shattering 2.74% of the vote, not even enough to get his fledgling party federal funding. 

Is this more of an influence in the zeitgeist/cult of personality thing that you’re blaming him for? Because that seems misdirected. The media (Russian-tainted social media included, of course, in 2016) and the electorate play larger roles than the individual politician there, I’d argue.

And I genuinely thought you might be joking in the old “thanks, Obama” vein, but I saw other posters pointing the finger in his (and his supporters’) general direction as well and then began to wonder if you were. 

Thanks for the explanation. 

Its not that voters wrote Bernie in as a protest vote, its that Bernie's "cold" endorsement and his supporters sour grapes, i.e. the #neverhillary crowd that Bernie spawned, either voted POOTWH, third party or stayed home. And this is what it got them. 6%-12% of Bernie supporters ended up voting POOTWH. I don't know what the number of total Bernie supporters is/was but I'd fathom a brain fart that 6%-12% of whatever number it is, would have been enough to put Hillary in the White House and maybe, just maybe, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Good day.

PS: Don't get pregnant unless you want to.

1 In 10 Bernie Sanders Supporters Ended Up Voting For Trump : NPR

New data is shedding light, however, on Sanders’s role in the last election — and on how many Sanders voters ended up supporting Trump. It’s a question many in the party will be asking about a candidate who may want to compete again for the Democratic nomination.

How many Sanders voters voted for Donald Trump?

Two surveys estimate that 12 percent of Sanders voters voted for Trump. A third survey suggests it was 6 percent.

First, the political scientist Brian Schaffner analyzed the Cooperative Congressional Election Study, which was conducted by YouGov and interviewed 64,600 Americans in October-November 2016. In that survey, Schaffner found that 12 percent of people who voted in the primary and reported voting for Sanders also voted in November and reported voting for Trump.

Schaffner examined only voters whose turnout in the primary and general election could be validated using voter file data. This excludes people who said they voted but actually did not — although it also excludes people who voted in caucuses or party-run primaries, for which validated turnout data are not as readily available.

Second, the same 12 percent figure emerges in the 2016 VOTER Survey, which was also conducted by YouGov and overseen by the Democracy Fund Voter Study Group (of which I am research director). In 2016, this survey interviewed 8,000 respondents in July, when they were asked their primary vote preference, and then in December, when they were asked their general election preference. This has the advantage of measuring primary preference closer to the primaries themselves and then tracking people over time. But their turnout in both elections has not been validated as of yet.

The third survey is the RAND Presidential Election Panel Survey, which interviewed the same group of about 3,000 Americans six times during the campaign. Again, this survey has the advantage of tracking voters over time, but nobody’s turnout has been validated. Among voters who reported supporting Sanders as of March 2016, 6 percent then reported voting for Trump in November.

Did enough Bernie Sanders supporters vote for Trump to cost Clinton the election? - The Washington Post

In Clinton’s March to Nomination, Many Democrats Changed Their Minds | Pew Research Center

I recall it was a pretty big story in 2016 how many liberals and left leaning independents didn’t like Hilary and didn’t vote for her. Not sure why that’s being forgotten.

In fact, a few months ago, many of the left leaners were screaming about Biden not being able to get BBB thru congress. The left in this country, compared to the right, is unaffiliated, not passionate and too busy to care about any cause.

So as a result, this is the country we get.

mfc2006

brianlux said:

So weird to wake up and realize, yes, you really do live in an autocratic nation run by people who don't want women to have rights and who pretend to care about children yet don't want to do anything to stop them from being mowed down at school.  No, it was not just a bad dream, it is the way of this country today.

It's a fucking disgrace. I am at a loss for words.

Lerxst1992

Cropduster-80 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

PP193448 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

if the constitution doesn't explicitly state abortion, making it overturnable, the constitution doesn't explicitly state what type of arms either, making that overturnable. 

muskets only. fuck em. everyone else? 10 year prison term. or castration. you choose. 

We need term limits for Congress and Courts.  No permanent politicians paid off by lobbyists and big corp.  And ignore the extreme left and extreme right.

The right is loyal and shows up to vote, especially in off years, when the senate is often decided. This likely cost the left RBG and Scalia’s seat. With those two, it’d be a 5-4 liberal court and this weeks historically drastic opinions would not have existed. Without voters joining us, this is the America we are getting.

Too many people, who want common sense gun reform and to protect womens rights, either get turned off by politics or don’t bother to show up every year.

Term limits in the court will never happen unless every single election year in the foreseeable future is a blue wave. Until then, we all get to enjoy unlimited guns on our streets and in our schools, and women gettin hauled off to jail. 

It’s already set up that if the democrats win they cheated.

no democratic majority will ever be seen as legitimate to the slightly less than 50 percent minority 

that train has left the station. Voting only matters if the winner is accepted by the country. Those days are gone 

Keep hope alive, one day more reasonable people will see the need to vote for the left every year. If they start winning every year, that will blow holes in the trump conspiracy theories. Many thought that was the long term trend after the 2008 election. But more likely, that would never happen and the court will lean strongly to the right for decades.

Cropduster-80

mfc2006 said:

brianlux said:

So weird to wake up and realize, yes, you really do live in an autocratic nation run by people who don't want women to have rights and who pretend to care about children yet don't want to do anything to stop them from being mowed down at school.  No, it was not just a bad dream, it is the way of this country today.

It's a fucking disgrace. I am at a loss for words.

I’m just waiting for the inevitable “if you don’t like it, move” comments from the right

i always wonder why they are still here to say that at all, after Obama won, twice