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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,628
    dankind said:
    Thanks Bernie. Nice job.
    Is this a joke? I don't know about where you live, but Bernie wasn't on the ballot here. I suppose folks could've written him in...?
    Hillary failed a lot of purity tests.

    That said, perhaps it turns out that both parties are not the same...
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,628
    Here we go 

    Justice Clarence Thomas, concurring with the majority ruling, explicitly called on the Supreme Court to overrule Griswold, which protects the right to contraception, Lawrence, the right to same-sex intimacy and Obergefell, the right to same-sex marriage.

    He wants to 
    1. Allow states to ban birth control
    2. Allow states to make gay sex a crime punishable by prison 
    3. Allow states to outlaw same sex marriage 

    He said it right in the opinion… in writing 
    and you can bet many states will do all 3 as soon as they can 
    since when is the SCOTUS an activist organization? they are supposed to rule/opine on things brought forth to them, not issues they deem worthy of exploration. unbelievable. 
    There's a cliché rooted in all kinds of truth: Every conservative accusation is a confession. They've been whining about "activist judges" for decades. That was the first sign. 
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  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited June 2022
    nicknyr15 said:
    Let’s hope we can keep the upcoming protests peaceful and not stoop down to that level. 


    if the reverse happened and gun rights were taken away we would have a civil war on our hands.  Surely violent riots, and everyone would be terrified 

    no one is afraid of what the pro choice people will do. Their reaction was not a factor in the decision, not even a little bit. People are very afraid of the hard right. They also use that fear to get stuff done 

    I’m not advocating anything but the right absolutely uses intimidation, and it works.  


  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,366
    And let’s not forget RGB’s selfish refusal to step down under Obama when the Dems controlled Congress. 
    The focus should be on the stolen seat....RGB didn't know she was going to die
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    dankind said:
    Thanks Bernie. Nice job.
    Is this a joke? I don't know about where you live, but Bernie wasn't on the ballot here. I suppose folks could've written him in...?
    Would Hillary have given us the three stooges of SCOTUS appointments? Don’t know where you live but Bernie’s failure to endorse Hillary and pretending he could beat POOTWH and be elected as a socialist certainly bears responsibility for today’s and future decisions. The Bernie protest voters own this.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,664
    I don't know that RBG "refused" to do anything. was there a strong advocacy by the Obama admin for her to resign?
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  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited June 2022
    A month ago we opened a special savings account.  It’s the fly to Canada/Europe fund in case my sons ever get their partners pregnant and she decides that is what she wants .  My oldest is 9 so we’ve got some time as a nationwide ban is coming 

    at the end of the day this ruling does nothing…. Unless you can’t afford it. That almost makes it worse as abortion will always be available if you have the resources. Always 

    it’s really just another poverty tax that keeps people where they are 


  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,664
    A month ago we opened a special savings account.  It’s the fly to Canada/Europe fund in case my sons ever get their partners pregnant and she decides that is what she wants .  My oldest is 9 so we’ve got some time 

    at the end of the day this ruling does nothing…. Unless you can’t afford it. That almost makes it worse as abortion will always be available if you have the resources. Always 

    it’s really just another poverty tax that keeps people where they are 


    I just posted the same point on facebook. This is a rule for the poor. no chance these faux lifers won't pay for a back room/out of state abortion for their mistress or daughter should the "need" arise. 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,751
    lol I wonder how many abortions TFG paid for? 
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  • brianlux
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    Everybody loves nostalgia, right? Well, it looks like we're getting a dose of the past with an evil twist- which is that a little less than half of us didn't want to go there.  Hang on tight folks, it's gonna be a rough ride to the bottom.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,664
    lol I wonder how many abortions TFG paid for? 
    conservatives don't give a fuck. all they care is that he was their vessel to their end game: controlling women. 
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  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited June 2022
    Here we go 

    Justice Clarence Thomas, concurring with the majority ruling, explicitly called on the Supreme Court to overrule Griswold, which protects the right to contraception, Lawrence, the right to same-sex intimacy and Obergefell, the right to same-sex marriage.

    He wants to 
    1. Allow states to ban birth control
    2. Allow states to make gay sex a crime punishable by prison 
    3. Allow states to outlaw same sex marriage 

    He said it right in the opinion… in writing 
    and you can bet many states will do all 3 as soon as they can 
    since when is the SCOTUS an activist organization? they are supposed to rule/opine on things brought forth to them, not issues they deem worthy of exploration. unbelievable. 
    You can’t deny the demographic and social issue shifts 

    I really think the speed and radicalisation occurring is on purpose. It’s to do everything they can as fast as they can before they are a permanent minority party

    that day is coming, absolutely.  When my kids are my age I am 100 percent convinced all this will get changed.  These social issues are the last gasps of a dying generation 

    the key is keeping the country together until then. That I’m less confident of 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    Here we go 

    Justice Clarence Thomas, concurring with the majority ruling, explicitly called on the Supreme Court to overrule Griswold, which protects the right to contraception, Lawrence, the right to same-sex intimacy and Obergefell, the right to same-sex marriage.

    He wants to 
    1. Allow states to ban birth control
    2. Allow states to make gay sex a crime punishable by prison 
    3. Allow states to outlaw same sex marriage 

    He said it right in the opinion… in writing 
    and you can bet many states will do all 3 as soon as they can 
    since when is the SCOTUS an activist organization? they are supposed to rule/opine on things brought forth to them, not issues they deem worthy of exploration. unbelievable. 
    You can’t deny the demographic and social issue shifts 

    I really think the speed and radicalisation occurring is on purpose. It’s to do everything they can as fast as they can before they are a permanent minority party

    that day is coming, absolutely.  When my kids are my age I am 100 percent convinced all this will get changed.  These social issues are the last gasps of a dying generation 

    the key is keeping the country together until then. That I’m less confident of 

    I wish I had the faith to believe what you're saying here is true.  As much as it sounds hopeful, the problem is that it's the fundamentalist Christians and hard core right wingers who are reproducing at a higher rate.  Intelligent people understand that the world is overpopulated.  Stupid ignorant people don't believe it or don't care and reproduce like rabbits and mice.

    I'm sorry, I can find no hope for this country anymore.  I feel like I wasted most of my adulthood giving a shit.
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    -Roberto Benigni

  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited June 2022
    brianlux said:
    Here we go 

    Justice Clarence Thomas, concurring with the majority ruling, explicitly called on the Supreme Court to overrule Griswold, which protects the right to contraception, Lawrence, the right to same-sex intimacy and Obergefell, the right to same-sex marriage.

    He wants to 
    1. Allow states to ban birth control
    2. Allow states to make gay sex a crime punishable by prison 
    3. Allow states to outlaw same sex marriage 

    He said it right in the opinion… in writing 
    and you can bet many states will do all 3 as soon as they can 
    since when is the SCOTUS an activist organization? they are supposed to rule/opine on things brought forth to them, not issues they deem worthy of exploration. unbelievable. 
    You can’t deny the demographic and social issue shifts 

    I really think the speed and radicalisation occurring is on purpose. It’s to do everything they can as fast as they can before they are a permanent minority party

    that day is coming, absolutely.  When my kids are my age I am 100 percent convinced all this will get changed.  These social issues are the last gasps of a dying generation 

    the key is keeping the country together until then. That I’m less confident of 

    I wish I had the faith to believe what you're saying here is true.  As much as it sounds hopeful, the problem is that it's the fundamentalist Christians and hard core right wingers who are reproducing at a higher rate.  Intelligent people understand that the world is overpopulated.  Stupid ignorant people don't believe it or don't care and reproduce like rabbits and mice.

    I'm sorry, I can find no hope for this country anymore.  I feel like I wasted most of my adulthood giving a shit.
    Not any more 

    conservatives just sped up their own “replacement”
    they just don’t know it yet 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,664
    brianlux said:
    Here we go 

    Justice Clarence Thomas, concurring with the majority ruling, explicitly called on the Supreme Court to overrule Griswold, which protects the right to contraception, Lawrence, the right to same-sex intimacy and Obergefell, the right to same-sex marriage.

    He wants to 
    1. Allow states to ban birth control
    2. Allow states to make gay sex a crime punishable by prison 
    3. Allow states to outlaw same sex marriage 

    He said it right in the opinion… in writing 
    and you can bet many states will do all 3 as soon as they can 
    since when is the SCOTUS an activist organization? they are supposed to rule/opine on things brought forth to them, not issues they deem worthy of exploration. unbelievable. 
    You can’t deny the demographic and social issue shifts 

    I really think the speed and radicalisation occurring is on purpose. It’s to do everything they can as fast as they can before they are a permanent minority party

    that day is coming, absolutely.  When my kids are my age I am 100 percent convinced all this will get changed.  These social issues are the last gasps of a dying generation 

    the key is keeping the country together until then. That I’m less confident of 

    I wish I had the faith to believe what you're saying here is true.  As much as it sounds hopeful, the problem is that it's the fundamentalist Christians and hard core right wingers who are reproducing at a higher rate.  Intelligent people understand that the world is overpopulated.  Stupid ignorant people don't believe it or don't care and reproduce like rabbits and mice.

    I'm sorry, I can find no hope for this country anymore.  I feel like I wasted most of my adulthood giving a shit.
    all societies either progress or they die, brian. sure, there's always hiccups along the way. but this aggression shall not stand. it may be the law of the land for the next while, but it won't stay that way. 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,751
    My daughter who’s 25 just texted me she’s in Colorado, she texted Supreme Court just overturned Roe we need to leave this country! I’m thinking if she really wants too I’ll oblige her and will look at how to get it done Chile is not a bad option for us! 
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  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    My daughter who’s 25 just texted me she’s in Colorado, she texted Supreme Court just overturned Roe we need to leave this country! I’m thinking if she really wants too I’ll oblige her and will look at how to get it done Chile is not a bad option for us! 
    She needs to vote

    this needs to be the only issue in the midterms.
    the economy is cyclical this isn’t 

    just wait until she can’t get birth control either 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    brianlux said:
    Here we go 

    Justice Clarence Thomas, concurring with the majority ruling, explicitly called on the Supreme Court to overrule Griswold, which protects the right to contraception, Lawrence, the right to same-sex intimacy and Obergefell, the right to same-sex marriage.

    He wants to 
    1. Allow states to ban birth control
    2. Allow states to make gay sex a crime punishable by prison 
    3. Allow states to outlaw same sex marriage 

    He said it right in the opinion… in writing 
    and you can bet many states will do all 3 as soon as they can 
    since when is the SCOTUS an activist organization? they are supposed to rule/opine on things brought forth to them, not issues they deem worthy of exploration. unbelievable. 
    You can’t deny the demographic and social issue shifts 

    I really think the speed and radicalisation occurring is on purpose. It’s to do everything they can as fast as they can before they are a permanent minority party

    that day is coming, absolutely.  When my kids are my age I am 100 percent convinced all this will get changed.  These social issues are the last gasps of a dying generation 

    the key is keeping the country together until then. That I’m less confident of 

    I wish I had the faith to believe what you're saying here is true.  As much as it sounds hopeful, the problem is that it's the fundamentalist Christians and hard core right wingers who are reproducing at a higher rate.  Intelligent people understand that the world is overpopulated.  Stupid ignorant people don't believe it or don't care and reproduce like rabbits and mice.

    I'm sorry, I can find no hope for this country anymore.  I feel like I wasted most of my adulthood giving a shit.
    Not any more 

    conservatives just sped up their own “replacement”
    they just don’t know it yet 

    brianlux said:
    Here we go 

    Justice Clarence Thomas, concurring with the majority ruling, explicitly called on the Supreme Court to overrule Griswold, which protects the right to contraception, Lawrence, the right to same-sex intimacy and Obergefell, the right to same-sex marriage.

    He wants to 
    1. Allow states to ban birth control
    2. Allow states to make gay sex a crime punishable by prison 
    3. Allow states to outlaw same sex marriage 

    He said it right in the opinion… in writing 
    and you can bet many states will do all 3 as soon as they can 
    since when is the SCOTUS an activist organization? they are supposed to rule/opine on things brought forth to them, not issues they deem worthy of exploration. unbelievable. 
    You can’t deny the demographic and social issue shifts 

    I really think the speed and radicalisation occurring is on purpose. It’s to do everything they can as fast as they can before they are a permanent minority party

    that day is coming, absolutely.  When my kids are my age I am 100 percent convinced all this will get changed.  These social issues are the last gasps of a dying generation 

    the key is keeping the country together until then. That I’m less confident of 

    I wish I had the faith to believe what you're saying here is true.  As much as it sounds hopeful, the problem is that it's the fundamentalist Christians and hard core right wingers who are reproducing at a higher rate.  Intelligent people understand that the world is overpopulated.  Stupid ignorant people don't believe it or don't care and reproduce like rabbits and mice.

    I'm sorry, I can find no hope for this country anymore.  I feel like I wasted most of my adulthood giving a shit.
    all societies either progress or they die, brian. sure, there's always hiccups along the way. but this aggression shall not stand. it may be the law of the land for the next while, but it won't stay that way. 

    Much respect for the optimism to you both, but I just can't see it.  My generation was going to change the world.  We really believed things would get better in our lifetime.  They haven't.  It's all going down the toilet.  I don't know how to be hopeful anymore except that I hope I am surprised that my cynicism and pessimism  is proven unjustified.
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    -Roberto Benigni

  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,664
    so when they say "contraception" is that only the ones that apply directly to females? cuz guys are not going to stop doing the deed just because they can't buy a condom. 

    if so, expect the next generation to be called Baby Boomers 2. 
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  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,160
    so when they say "contraception" is that only the ones that apply directly to females? cuz guys are not going to stop doing the deed just because they can't buy a condom. 

    if so, expect the next generation to be called Baby Boomers 2. 
    Why is there no talk of banning Viagra?