Former drummer Dave Abbruzzese reflects on the tour cancellation

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  • rustneversleeps
    rustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209
    RiotAct10 said:
    The way people drool over Dave on Facebook is pretty gross. Tagging him all the time and bringing him into every conversation. I find it pretty nauseating. 
    its probably the relentless swede.... slurp slurp
  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    I think what he is saying is pretty clear....why is it ok to replace the drummer and not the bass player?


    I think it was about having to replace a drummer AND a bassplayer. More than replacing soley Jeff for some shows.
    Really though no matter what member it is, Covid penetrated the bubble.  Once could be an isolated incident, twice is a pattern plus we have no idea how many members of the crew also have it as they aren’t probably going to release that information to us as they aren’t the front facing public figures. 

    It could have just as easily got cancelled if Jeff never tested positive and 20 members of the crew did, so I don’t necessarily buy the argument that one is replaceable but the other isn’t, or if it’s two members positive then you can’t replace both temporarily. 

    If it becomes unsafe in their view, that’s it. And maybe that threshold was reached 

  • KM73780
    KM73780 Posts: 1,172
    He’s a dick. End of story. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    KM73780 said:
    He’s a dick. End of story. 
    One mans dick is another mans cheeky. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    KM73780 said:
    He’s a dick. End of story. 
    One mans dick is another mans cheeky. 
    That sounds really dirty, reading it just right 😂
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Almost 30 years of Dave being salty and we are supposed to give him the benefit of some imaginary doubt here that this wasn't salty? 
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  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    I think most bands would have cancelled if more than one member tested positive and couldn't play. I guess they figured out what was possible to "get through" and what wasn't. Would they have cancelled if Jeff got covid first, not sure? We will not know on this leg but we will see what happens in Europe and the 2nd US leg.


  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,189
    RiotAct10 said:
    The way people drool over Dave on Facebook is pretty gross. Tagging him all the time and bringing him into every conversation. I find it pretty nauseating. 
    yeah and I think that is what led to the comment....he's getting peppered so much he couldn't resist
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  • apirk72
    apirk72 Posts: 506
    If Jeff would have gotten it first they probably would've tried to find another bass player, and then would've cancelled if Matt then got sick.  I don't think what they did had anything to do with instruments, obviously if Ed had covid first they would've cancelled.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,189
    apirk72 said:
    If Jeff would have gotten it first they probably would've tried to find another bass player, and then would've cancelled if Matt then got sick.  I don't think what they did had anything to do with instruments, obviously if Ed had covid first they would've cancelled.
    disagree....no way they go on stage without Jeff, Mike or Stone
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,787
    edited May 2022
     :D:D:D:D

    This gets more & more comical with every new thread.  
  • nicknyr15
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  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    Gern Blansten said:
    apirk72 said:
    If Jeff would have gotten it first they probably would've tried to find another bass player, and then would've cancelled if Matt then got sick.  I don't think what they did had anything to do with instruments, obviously if Ed had covid first they would've cancelled.
    disagree....no way they go on stage without Jeff, Mike or Stone
    I agree minus the fact we are two years into cancellations and reschedules.

    normally  no, I think in this situation the just might have tried. 

     I’m not convinced they would have replaced Matt either under normal circumstances 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Gern Blansten said:
    I think what he is saying is pretty clear....why is it ok to replace the drummer and not the bass player?


    Well we don't know if MFC is even ready to go.  So can you imagine bringing in an entirely new rhythm section?  That doesn't seem feasible.  Plus, all three of the drummers that played (not the kid and the guy from the audience) had worked with the band before.  So there was at least strong familiarity.  
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited May 2022
    Gern Blansten said:
    apirk72 said:
    If Jeff would have gotten it first they probably would've tried to find another bass player, and then would've cancelled if Matt then got sick.  I don't think what they did had anything to do with instruments, obviously if Ed had covid first they would've cancelled.
    disagree....no way they go on stage without Jeff, Mike or Stone
    I would imagine many Metallica fans would have said the same about going on without Lars Ulrich, before they did.

    And KISS fans about the band going on without lead singer and founder Paul Stanley, before they did.

    I think also the discussion with the band and management has to do with more than just "who will be on stage". There are other factors in play. Like Cropduster touched upon above.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
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  • droptheleash9
    droptheleash9 Posts: 1,468
    It's crazy that people actually want this guy back and to see him play with the band. He can get lost.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    mrussel1 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    I think what he is saying is pretty clear....why is it ok to replace the drummer and not the bass player?


    Well we don't know if MFC is even ready to go.  So can you imagine bringing in an entirely new rhythm section?  That doesn't seem feasible.  Plus, all three of the drummers that played (not the kid and the guy from the audience) had worked with the band before.  So there was at least strong familiarity.  
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    I think what he is saying is pretty clear....why is it ok to replace the drummer and not the bass player?


    Well we don't know if MFC is even ready to go.  So can you imagine bringing in an entirely new rhythm section?  That doesn't seem feasible.  Plus, all three of the drummers that played (not the kid and the guy from the audience) had worked with the band before.  So there was at least strong familiarity.  
    Neil Young loved playing with Jack irons. 

    Jack Irons - Drums
    Neil Young - Bass

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    Yeah that would have been the most amazing. I was at Oakland and was thinking about NY since he lives close to there.  But there was no way since he won't even tour yet.  
  • Ledbetterman10
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    Gern Blansten said:
    apirk72 said:
    If Jeff would have gotten it first they probably would've tried to find another bass player, and then would've cancelled if Matt then got sick.  I don't think what they did had anything to do with instruments, obviously if Ed had covid first they would've cancelled.
    disagree....no way they go on stage without Jeff, Mike or Stone
    They played without Stone once before. 09/23/02 opening for The Who at the House of Blues for a benefit concert. They did have a cardboard cut-out of Stone on stage though. Of course that was a short set as an opener which is quite different than pulling off a real show without him. 
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