These Dave threads make me curious about royalties. Since pearl jam was in the golden age of CD sales, am I naïve to think that Dave would be set for life? I know these boards aren't about gossiping, and I don't want to speculate - I just remember a thread a while back where Mike mentioned that decades later he was still getting a few grand of royalty payments from ten.
Dave is a millionaire. Not to the extent that the other guys in the band are but, unless he's been extremely careless with his finances, he is not going to be "serving us fries" (as another poster put it) at any point in his life.
There's zero chance he's a millionaire. I bet he's been broke for decades. I know for a fact he has sold some of his original tapes (Stuffins) to fans. These are tapes of either versions of Alone, Wash, etc. You wouldn't do that if you were a millionaire.
There is not, in fact, "zero chance" he's a millionaire. There are plenty of reasons a person harboring a decades-long grudge would sell those tapes.
There was not a GoFundMe for his daughter. There was a FB "birthday fundraiser" in which he asked folks to contribute, on his birthday, to his daughter's ongoing education.
That said, being a millionaire and being extremely wealthy are two different things, so absolutely, his life is nowhere near the same as the rest of the guys in the band, but Dave is not broke, has not "been broke for decades."
Sorry, no one is going to convince me that Dave A is wealthy today for drumming on two records.
Yeah two records that combined to sell like 15 million copies. And he's credited as songwriter on every song except for Nothingman, Better Man, Satan's Bed, and Stupid Mop. That wouldn't make him "wealthy." As Chris Rock said once, "Shaq is rich, the white man that signs his check....he's wealthy." But "zero chance he's a millionaire" isn't correct either. There's a good chance he's a millionaire. Or at least he certainly once was one. Who knows about these days.
I 100% agree that he was a millionaire at some point. There is no doubt. I am talking specifically about today. What has he done with his life for the past 25 years? Anything of note? Does he have a job? Does he gig? If he had 2MM tax free 25 years ago, that's only 80k per year as of today, and he would be wiped out. Does anyone think he invested 2MM? Negative.
Your guess is as good as mine. All I know that he's done since leaving the band is....
-Something called "Green Romance Orchestra." I've never checked it out. -Some sessions for Guns N' Roses' Chinese Democracy record -Played Rearviewmirror virtually with a bunch of fans for the band's 30th anniversary
That's all I got.
His time with GnG predates anything considered ”Chinese Democracy” I think. He was there when Duff was still in the band. But maybe some jam that is CD connected happened at that time.
I am no GnR expert.
And the best drummer Pearl Jam has ever had is Matt Chamberlain. On the live disc that came with the To Venus and Back album. No contest.
Tell us more about what you think might have happened that time he almost became the drummer for GnR.
Why do you have to be like this.
Just pointing out that you can only speculate about what may or may not have happened that time he almost became the drummer for GnR but didn't. & speculation is just that, speculation.
What do you mean? He himself has talked about that period. And there are other sources regarding the b and, and the CD songs and where they came from?
So take it easy... you know what they say about people who don't make sense
There's a whole lot of "I think"s and "maybe"s in your comments about that time he almost became their drummer... but didn't.
Stop reacting so sensitively. Dave A doesn't even cry this much.
These Dave threads make me curious about royalties. Since pearl jam was in the golden age of CD sales, am I naïve to think that Dave would be set for life? I know these boards aren't about gossiping, and I don't want to speculate - I just remember a thread a while back where Mike mentioned that decades later he was still getting a few grand of royalty payments from ten.
Dave is a millionaire. Not to the extent that the other guys in the band are but, unless he's been extremely careless with his finances, he is not going to be "serving us fries" (as another poster put it) at any point in his life.
There's zero chance he's a millionaire. I bet he's been broke for decades. I know for a fact he has sold some of his original tapes (Stuffins) to fans. These are tapes of either versions of Alone, Wash, etc. You wouldn't do that if you were a millionaire.
There is not, in fact, "zero chance" he's a millionaire. There are plenty of reasons a person harboring a decades-long grudge would sell those tapes.
There was not a GoFundMe for his daughter. There was a FB "birthday fundraiser" in which he asked folks to contribute, on his birthday, to his daughter's ongoing education.
That said, being a millionaire and being extremely wealthy are two different things, so absolutely, his life is nowhere near the same as the rest of the guys in the band, but Dave is not broke, has not "been broke for decades."
Sorry, no one is going to convince me that Dave A is wealthy today for drumming on two records.
Yeah two records that combined to sell like 15 million copies. And he's credited as songwriter on every song except for Nothingman, Better Man, Satan's Bed, and Stupid Mop. That wouldn't make him "wealthy." As Chris Rock said once, "Shaq is rich, the white man that signs his check....he's wealthy." But "zero chance he's a millionaire" isn't correct either. There's a good chance he's a millionaire. Or at least he certainly once was one. Who knows about these days.
I 100% agree that he was a millionaire at some point. There is no doubt. I am talking specifically about today. What has he done with his life for the past 25 years? Anything of note? Does he have a job? Does he gig? If he had 2MM tax free 25 years ago, that's only 80k per year as of today, and he would be wiped out. Does anyone think he invested 2MM? Negative.
Your guess is as good as mine. All I know that he's done since leaving the band is....
-Something called "Green Romance Orchestra." I've never checked it out. -Some sessions for Guns N' Roses' Chinese Democracy record -Played Rearviewmirror virtually with a bunch of fans for the band's 30th anniversary
That's all I got.
His time with GnG predates anything considered ”Chinese Democracy” I think. He was there when Duff was still in the band. But maybe some jam that is CD connected happened at that time.
I am no GnR expert.
And the best drummer Pearl Jam has ever had is Matt Chamberlain. On the live disc that came with the To Venus and Back album. No contest.
Tell us more about what you think might have happened that time he almost became the drummer for GnR.
Why do you have to be like this.
Just pointing out that you can only speculate about what may or may not have happened that time he almost became the drummer for GnR but didn't. & speculation is just that, speculation.
What do you mean? He himself has talked about that period. And there are other sources regarding the b and, and the CD songs and where they came from?
So take it easy... you know what they say about people who don't make sense
There's a whole lot of "I think"s and "maybe"s in your comments about that time he almost became their drummer... but didn't.
Stop reacting so sensitively. Dave A doesn't even cry this much.
Not remembering fully, is not the same as "speculating".
So, stop not making sense.
But please keep acting out. It's cute. Dave A doesn't even act out this much
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Gee. I wonder why Dave A is no longer around. Maybe because personality wise, he is an asshole. I don't know, who knows, could just be speculating. But seems like an old man with an instagram catering to fans who can't get over three decades ago is assholish.
These Dave threads make me curious about royalties. Since pearl jam was in the golden age of CD sales, am I naïve to think that Dave would be set for life? I know these boards aren't about gossiping, and I don't want to speculate - I just remember a thread a while back where Mike mentioned that decades later he was still getting a few grand of royalty payments from ten.
Dave is a millionaire. Not to the extent that the other guys in the band are but, unless he's been extremely careless with his finances, he is not going to be "serving us fries" (as another poster put it) at any point in his life.
There's zero chance he's a millionaire. I bet he's been broke for decades. I know for a fact he has sold some of his original tapes (Stuffins) to fans. These are tapes of either versions of Alone, Wash, etc. You wouldn't do that if you were a millionaire.
There is not, in fact, "zero chance" he's a millionaire. There are plenty of reasons a person harboring a decades-long grudge would sell those tapes.
There was not a GoFundMe for his daughter. There was a FB "birthday fundraiser" in which he asked folks to contribute, on his birthday, to his daughter's ongoing education.
That said, being a millionaire and being extremely wealthy are two different things, so absolutely, his life is nowhere near the same as the rest of the guys in the band, but Dave is not broke, has not "been broke for decades."
Sorry, no one is going to convince me that Dave A is wealthy today for drumming on two records.
Yeah two records that combined to sell like 15 million copies. And he's credited as songwriter on every song except for Nothingman, Better Man, Satan's Bed, and Stupid Mop. That wouldn't make him "wealthy." As Chris Rock said once, "Shaq is rich, the white man that signs his check....he's wealthy." But "zero chance he's a millionaire" isn't correct either. There's a good chance he's a millionaire. Or at least he certainly once was one. Who knows about these days.
I 100% agree that he was a millionaire at some point. There is no doubt. I am talking specifically about today. What has he done with his life for the past 25 years? Anything of note? Does he have a job? Does he gig? If he had 2MM tax free 25 years ago, that's only 80k per year as of today, and he would be wiped out. Does anyone think he invested 2MM? Negative.
Your guess is as good as mine. All I know that he's done since leaving the band is....
-Something called "Green Romance Orchestra." I've never checked it out. -Some sessions for Guns N' Roses' Chinese Democracy record -Played Rearviewmirror virtually with a bunch of fans for the band's 30th anniversary
That's all I got.
His time with GnG predates anything considered ”Chinese Democracy” I think. He was there when Duff was still in the band. But maybe some jam that is CD connected happened at that time.
I am no GnR expert.
And the best drummer Pearl Jam has ever had is Matt Chamberlain. On the live disc that came with the To Venus and Back album. No contest.
Tell us more about what you think might have happened that time he almost became the drummer for GnR.
Why do you have to be like this.
Just pointing out that you can only speculate about what may or may not have happened that time he almost became the drummer for GnR but didn't. & speculation is just that, speculation.
What do you mean? He himself has talked about that period. And there are other sources regarding the b and, and the CD songs and where they came from?
So take it easy... you know what they say about people who don't make sense
There's a whole lot of "I think"s and "maybe"s in your comments about that time he almost became their drummer... but didn't.
Stop reacting so sensitively. Dave A doesn't even cry this much.
Not remembering fully, is not the same as "speculating".
So, stop not making sense.
But please keep acting out. It's cute. Dave A doesn't even act out this much
More Dave A threads please… this dead horse defintely isn’t dead enough.
These Dave threads make me curious about royalties. Since pearl jam was in the golden age of CD sales, am I naïve to think that Dave would be set for life? I know these boards aren't about gossiping, and I don't want to speculate - I just remember a thread a while back where Mike mentioned that decades later he was still getting a few grand of royalty payments from ten.
Dave is a millionaire. Not to the extent that the other guys in the band are but, unless he's been extremely careless with his finances, he is not going to be "serving us fries" (as another poster put it) at any point in his life.
There's zero chance he's a millionaire. I bet he's been broke for decades. I know for a fact he has sold some of his original tapes (Stuffins) to fans. These are tapes of either versions of Alone, Wash, etc. You wouldn't do that if you were a millionaire.
There is not, in fact, "zero chance" he's a millionaire. There are plenty of reasons a person harboring a decades-long grudge would sell those tapes.
There was not a GoFundMe for his daughter. There was a FB "birthday fundraiser" in which he asked folks to contribute, on his birthday, to his daughter's ongoing education.
That said, being a millionaire and being extremely wealthy are two different things, so absolutely, his life is nowhere near the same as the rest of the guys in the band, but Dave is not broke, has not "been broke for decades."
Sorry, no one is going to convince me that Dave A is wealthy today for drumming on two records.
Yeah two records that combined to sell like 15 million copies. And he's credited as songwriter on every song except for Nothingman, Better Man, Satan's Bed, and Stupid Mop. That wouldn't make him "wealthy." As Chris Rock said once, "Shaq is rich, the white man that signs his check....he's wealthy." But "zero chance he's a millionaire" isn't correct either. There's a good chance he's a millionaire. Or at least he certainly once was one. Who knows about these days.
I 100% agree that he was a millionaire at some point. There is no doubt. I am talking specifically about today. What has he done with his life for the past 25 years? Anything of note? Does he have a job? Does he gig? If he had 2MM tax free 25 years ago, that's only 80k per year as of today, and he would be wiped out. Does anyone think he invested 2MM? Negative.
Your guess is as good as mine. All I know that he's done since leaving the band is....
-Something called "Green Romance Orchestra." I've never checked it out. -Some sessions for Guns N' Roses' Chinese Democracy record -Played Rearviewmirror virtually with a bunch of fans for the band's 30th anniversary
That's all I got.
His time with GnG predates anything considered ”Chinese Democracy” I think. He was there when Duff was still in the band. But maybe some jam that is CD connected happened at that time.
I am no GnR expert.
And the best drummer Pearl Jam has ever had is Matt Chamberlain. On the live disc that came with the To Venus and Back album. No contest.
Tell us more about what you think might have happened that time he almost became the drummer for GnR.
Why do you have to be like this.
Just pointing out that you can only speculate about what may or may not have happened that time he almost became the drummer for GnR but didn't. & speculation is just that, speculation.
What do you mean? He himself has talked about that period. And there are other sources regarding the b and, and the CD songs and where they came from?
So take it easy... you know what they say about people who don't make sense
There's a whole lot of "I think"s and "maybe"s in your comments about that time he almost became their drummer... but didn't.
Stop reacting so sensitively. Dave A doesn't even cry this much.
Not remembering fully, is not the same as "speculating".
So, stop not making sense.
But please keep acting out. It's cute. Dave A doesn't even act out this much
More Dave A threads please… this dead horse defintely isn’t dead enough.
You keep acting out.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
According to Ed, Matt remained in Arizona after testing positive. That implies that he tested positive on Tuesday. The first Oakland show was Friday. They had time to scramble to figure out how to replace him. In all likelihood, they found out about Jeff's positive test late Wednesday morning (or Jeff had tested negative but started feeling poorly on Wednesday morning). That did not give them much time to figure out how to replace him.
One thing I want to point out here, and I do intend to imply any disrespect to Matt, whose absence was clearly felt in Oakland and Fresno as exciting as those shows were, but there are four things that every Pearl Jam show in history have in common: Eddie Vedder, Mike McCready, Stone Gossard and Jeff Ament. Even the infamous San Francisco show in 1995 had Eddie for seven songs. They have played many shows without Matt. They have never played a show without Jeff. If there were a show without Jeff, would it be a Pearl Jam show?
These Dave threads make me curious about royalties. Since pearl jam was in the golden age of CD sales, am I naïve to think that Dave would be set for life? I know these boards aren't about gossiping, and I don't want to speculate - I just remember a thread a while back where Mike mentioned that decades later he was still getting a few grand of royalty payments from ten.
Dave is a millionaire. Not to the extent that the other guys in the band are but, unless he's been extremely careless with his finances, he is not going to be "serving us fries" (as another poster put it) at any point in his life.
There's zero chance he's a millionaire. I bet he's been broke for decades. I know for a fact he has sold some of his original tapes (Stuffins) to fans. These are tapes of either versions of Alone, Wash, etc. You wouldn't do that if you were a millionaire.
There is not, in fact, "zero chance" he's a millionaire. There are plenty of reasons a person harboring a decades-long grudge would sell those tapes.
There was not a GoFundMe for his daughter. There was a FB "birthday fundraiser" in which he asked folks to contribute, on his birthday, to his daughter's ongoing education.
That said, being a millionaire and being extremely wealthy are two different things, so absolutely, his life is nowhere near the same as the rest of the guys in the band, but Dave is not broke, has not "been broke for decades."
Sorry, no one is going to convince me that Dave A is wealthy today for drumming on two records.
Yeah two records that combined to sell like 15 million copies. And he's credited as songwriter on every song except for Nothingman, Better Man, Satan's Bed, and Stupid Mop. That wouldn't make him "wealthy." As Chris Rock said once, "Shaq is rich, the white man that signs his check....he's wealthy." But "zero chance he's a millionaire" isn't correct either. There's a good chance he's a millionaire. Or at least he certainly once was one. Who knows about these days.
I 100% agree that he was a millionaire at some point. There is no doubt. I am talking specifically about today. What has he done with his life for the past 25 years? Anything of note? Does he have a job? Does he gig? If he had 2MM tax free 25 years ago, that's only 80k per year as of today, and he would be wiped out. Does anyone think he invested 2MM? Negative.
Your guess is as good as mine. All I know that he's done since leaving the band is....
-Something called "Green Romance Orchestra." I've never checked it out. -Some sessions for Guns N' Roses' Chinese Democracy record -Played Rearviewmirror virtually with a bunch of fans for the band's 30th anniversary
That's all I got.
His time with GnG predates anything considered ”Chinese Democracy” I think. He was there when Duff was still in the band. But maybe some jam that is CD connected happened at that time.
I am no GnR expert.
And the best drummer Pearl Jam has ever had is Matt Chamberlain. On the live disc that came with the To Venus and Back album. No contest.
Tell us more about what you think might have happened that time he almost became the drummer for GnR.
Why do you have to be like this.
Just pointing out that you can only speculate about what may or may not have happened that time he almost became the drummer for GnR but didn't. & speculation is just that, speculation.
What do you mean? He himself has talked about that period. And there are other sources regarding the b and, and the CD songs and where they came from?
So take it easy... you know what they say about people who don't make sense
There's a whole lot of "I think"s and "maybe"s in your comments about that time he almost became their drummer... but didn't.
Stop reacting so sensitively. Dave A doesn't even cry this much.
Not remembering fully, is not the same as "speculating".
So, stop not making sense.
But please keep acting out. It's cute. Dave A doesn't even act out this much
More Dave A threads please… this dead horse defintely isn’t dead enough.
These threads are where I got my show cancellation notices.
Without them I’d still be looking for the set list
According to Ed, Matt remained in Arizona after testing positive. That implies that he tested positive on Tuesday. The first Oakland show was Friday. They had time to scramble to figure out how to replace him. In all likelihood, they found out about Jeff's positive test late Wednesday morning (or Jeff had tested negative but started feeling poorly on Wednesday morning). That did not give them much time to figure out how to replace him.
One thing I want to point out here, and I do intend to imply any disrespect to Matt, whose absence was clearly felt in Oakland and Fresno as exciting as those shows were, but there are four things that every Pearl Jam show in history have in common: Eddie Vedder, Mike McCready, Stone Gossard and Jeff Ament. Even the infamous San Francisco show in 1995 had Eddie for seven songs. They have played many shows without Matt. They have never played a show without Jeff. If there were a show without Jeff, would it be a Pearl Jam show?
According to Ed, Matt remained in Arizona after testing positive. That implies that he tested positive on Tuesday. The first Oakland show was Friday. They had time to scramble to figure out how to replace him. In all likelihood, they found out about Jeff's positive test late Wednesday morning (or Jeff had tested negative but started feeling poorly on Wednesday morning). That did not give them much time to figure out how to replace him.
One thing I want to point out here, and I do intend to imply any disrespect to Matt, whose absence was clearly felt in Oakland and Fresno as exciting as those shows were, but there are four things that every Pearl Jam show in history have in common: Eddie Vedder, Mike McCready, Stone Gossard and Jeff Ament. Even the infamous San Francisco show in 1995 had Eddie for seven songs. They have played many shows without Matt. They have never played a show without Jeff. If there were a show without Jeff, would it be a Pearl Jam show?
Oakland 1 was Thursday.
You're right. Thank you. I've been driving around the southwest for two weeks and have lost all sense of what day of the week it is. But the point remains that they had some lead time to figure out an alternative plan for Oakland that they apparently did not have for Sacramento.
These Dave threads make me curious about royalties. Since pearl jam was in the golden age of CD sales, am I naïve to think that Dave would be set for life? I know these boards aren't about gossiping, and I don't want to speculate - I just remember a thread a while back where Mike mentioned that decades later he was still getting a few grand of royalty payments from ten.
Dave is a millionaire. Not to the extent that the other guys in the band are but, unless he's been extremely careless with his finances, he is not going to be "serving us fries" (as another poster put it) at any point in his life.
There's zero chance he's a millionaire. I bet he's been broke for decades. I know for a fact he has sold some of his original tapes (Stuffins) to fans. These are tapes of either versions of Alone, Wash, etc. You wouldn't do that if you were a millionaire.
There is not, in fact, "zero chance" he's a millionaire. There are plenty of reasons a person harboring a decades-long grudge would sell those tapes.
There was not a GoFundMe for his daughter. There was a FB "birthday fundraiser" in which he asked folks to contribute, on his birthday, to his daughter's ongoing education.
That said, being a millionaire and being extremely wealthy are two different things, so absolutely, his life is nowhere near the same as the rest of the guys in the band, but Dave is not broke, has not "been broke for decades."
Sorry, no one is going to convince me that Dave A is wealthy today for drumming on two records.
Yeah two records that combined to sell like 15 million copies. And he's credited as songwriter on every song except for Nothingman, Better Man, Satan's Bed, and Stupid Mop. That wouldn't make him "wealthy." As Chris Rock said once, "Shaq is rich, the white man that signs his check....he's wealthy." But "zero chance he's a millionaire" isn't correct either. There's a good chance he's a millionaire. Or at least he certainly once was one. Who knows about these days.
I 100% agree that he was a millionaire at some point. There is no doubt. I am talking specifically about today. What has he done with his life for the past 25 years? Anything of note? Does he have a job? Does he gig? If he had 2MM tax free 25 years ago, that's only 80k per year as of today, and he would be wiped out. Does anyone think he invested 2MM? Negative.
Your guess is as good as mine. All I know that he's done since leaving the band is....
-Something called "Green Romance Orchestra." I've never checked it out. -Some sessions for Guns N' Roses' Chinese Democracy record -Played Rearviewmirror virtually with a bunch of fans for the band's 30th anniversary
That's all I got.
You can add “stopped paying rent on a storage shed” to that list.
These Dave threads make me curious about royalties. Since pearl jam was in the golden age of CD sales, am I naïve to think that Dave would be set for life? I know these boards aren't about gossiping, and I don't want to speculate - I just remember a thread a while back where Mike mentioned that decades later he was still getting a few grand of royalty payments from ten.
Dave is a millionaire. Not to the extent that the other guys in the band are but, unless he's been extremely careless with his finances, he is not going to be "serving us fries" (as another poster put it) at any point in his life.
There's zero chance he's a millionaire. I bet he's been broke for decades. I know for a fact he has sold some of his original tapes (Stuffins) to fans. These are tapes of either versions of Alone, Wash, etc. You wouldn't do that if you were a millionaire.
There is not, in fact, "zero chance" he's a millionaire. There are plenty of reasons a person harboring a decades-long grudge would sell those tapes.
There was not a GoFundMe for his daughter. There was a FB "birthday fundraiser" in which he asked folks to contribute, on his birthday, to his daughter's ongoing education.
That said, being a millionaire and being extremely wealthy are two different things, so absolutely, his life is nowhere near the same as the rest of the guys in the band, but Dave is not broke, has not "been broke for decades."
Sorry, no one is going to convince me that Dave A is wealthy today for drumming on two records.
Yeah two records that combined to sell like 15 million copies. And he's credited as songwriter on every song except for Nothingman, Better Man, Satan's Bed, and Stupid Mop. That wouldn't make him "wealthy." As Chris Rock said once, "Shaq is rich, the white man that signs his check....he's wealthy." But "zero chance he's a millionaire" isn't correct either. There's a good chance he's a millionaire. Or at least he certainly once was one. Who knows about these days.
I 100% agree that he was a millionaire at some point. There is no doubt. I am talking specifically about today. What has he done with his life for the past 25 years? Anything of note? Does he have a job? Does he gig? If he had 2MM tax free 25 years ago, that's only 80k per year as of today, and he would be wiped out. Does anyone think he invested 2MM? Negative.
Your guess is as good as mine. All I know that he's done since leaving the band is....
-Something called "Green Romance Orchestra." I've never checked it out. -Some sessions for Guns N' Roses' Chinese Democracy record -Played Rearviewmirror virtually with a bunch of fans for the band's 30th anniversary
That's all I got.
You can add “stopped paying rent on a storage shed” to that list.
Weirdly enough I bought a bunch of PJ stuff (vinyl mostly) from a reseller who basically buys the contents of abandoned storage units. In Texas outside Dallas
These Dave threads make me curious about royalties. Since pearl jam was in the golden age of CD sales, am I naïve to think that Dave would be set for life? I know these boards aren't about gossiping, and I don't want to speculate - I just remember a thread a while back where Mike mentioned that decades later he was still getting a few grand of royalty payments from ten.
Dave is a millionaire. Not to the extent that the other guys in the band are but, unless he's been extremely careless with his finances, he is not going to be "serving us fries" (as another poster put it) at any point in his life.
There's zero chance he's a millionaire. I bet he's been broke for decades. I know for a fact he has sold some of his original tapes (Stuffins) to fans. These are tapes of either versions of Alone, Wash, etc. You wouldn't do that if you were a millionaire.
There is not, in fact, "zero chance" he's a millionaire. There are plenty of reasons a person harboring a decades-long grudge would sell those tapes.
There was not a GoFundMe for his daughter. There was a FB "birthday fundraiser" in which he asked folks to contribute, on his birthday, to his daughter's ongoing education.
That said, being a millionaire and being extremely wealthy are two different things, so absolutely, his life is nowhere near the same as the rest of the guys in the band, but Dave is not broke, has not "been broke for decades."
Sorry, no one is going to convince me that Dave A is wealthy today for drumming on two records.
Yeah two records that combined to sell like 15 million copies. And he's credited as songwriter on every song except for Nothingman, Better Man, Satan's Bed, and Stupid Mop. That wouldn't make him "wealthy." As Chris Rock said once, "Shaq is rich, the white man that signs his check....he's wealthy." But "zero chance he's a millionaire" isn't correct either. There's a good chance he's a millionaire. Or at least he certainly once was one. Who knows about these days.
I 100% agree that he was a millionaire at some point. There is no doubt. I am talking specifically about today. What has he done with his life for the past 25 years? Anything of note? Does he have a job? Does he gig? If he had 2MM tax free 25 years ago, that's only 80k per year as of today, and he would be wiped out. Does anyone think he invested 2MM? Negative.
Your guess is as good as mine. All I know that he's done since leaving the band is....
-Something called "Green Romance Orchestra." I've never checked it out. -Some sessions for Guns N' Roses' Chinese Democracy record -Played Rearviewmirror virtually with a bunch of fans for the band's 30th anniversary
That's all I got.
You can add “stopped paying rent on a storage shed” to that list.
Ha I've been waiting all day for someone else to reference this...
According to Ed, Matt remained in Arizona after testing positive. That implies that he tested positive on Tuesday. The first Oakland show was Friday. They had time to scramble to figure out how to replace him. In all likelihood, they found out about Jeff's positive test late Wednesday morning (or Jeff had tested negative but started feeling poorly on Wednesday morning). That did not give them much time to figure out how to replace him.
One thing I want to point out here, and I do intend to imply any disrespect to Matt, whose absence was clearly felt in Oakland and Fresno as exciting as those shows were, but there are four things that every Pearl Jam show in history have in common: Eddie Vedder, Mike McCready, Stone Gossard and Jeff Ament. Even the infamous San Francisco show in 1995 had Eddie for seven songs. They have played many shows without Matt. They have never played a show without Jeff. If there were a show without Jeff, would it be a Pearl Jam show?
According to Ed, Matt remained in Arizona after testing positive. That implies that he tested positive on Tuesday. The first Oakland show was Friday. They had time to scramble to figure out how to replace him. In all likelihood, they found out about Jeff's positive test late Wednesday morning (or Jeff had tested negative but started feeling poorly on Wednesday morning). That did not give them much time to figure out how to replace him.
One thing I want to point out here, and I do intend to imply any disrespect to Matt, whose absence was clearly felt in Oakland and Fresno as exciting as those shows were, but there are four things that every Pearl Jam show in history have in common: Eddie Vedder, Mike McCready, Stone Gossard and Jeff Ament. Even the infamous San Francisco show in 1995 had Eddie for seven songs. They have played many shows without Matt. They have never played a show without Jeff. If there were a show without Jeff, would it be a Pearl Jam show?
They played a show without Stone
Cardboard standup! That was the HOB show in Chicago? Plant was involved?
According to Ed, Matt remained in Arizona after testing positive. That implies that he tested positive on Tuesday. The first Oakland show was Friday. They had time to scramble to figure out how to replace him. In all likelihood, they found out about Jeff's positive test late Wednesday morning (or Jeff had tested negative but started feeling poorly on Wednesday morning). That did not give them much time to figure out how to replace him.
One thing I want to point out here, and I do intend to imply any disrespect to Matt, whose absence was clearly felt in Oakland and Fresno as exciting as those shows were, but there are four things that every Pearl Jam show in history have in common: Eddie Vedder, Mike McCready, Stone Gossard and Jeff Ament. Even the infamous San Francisco show in 1995 had Eddie for seven songs. They have played many shows without Matt. They have never played a show without Jeff. If there were a show without Jeff, would it be a Pearl Jam show?
They played a show without Stone
Cardboard standup! That was the HOB show in Chicago? Plant was involved?
Few years before the Plant show. But same venue! And yes Stone was a cardboard cutout
These Dave threads make me curious about royalties. Since pearl jam was in the golden age of CD sales, am I naïve to think that Dave would be set for life? I know these boards aren't about gossiping, and I don't want to speculate - I just remember a thread a while back where Mike mentioned that decades later he was still getting a few grand of royalty payments from ten.
Dave is a millionaire. Not to the extent that the other guys in the band are but, unless he's been extremely careless with his finances, he is not going to be "serving us fries" (as another poster put it) at any point in his life.
There's zero chance he's a millionaire. I bet he's been broke for decades. I know for a fact he has sold some of his original tapes (Stuffins) to fans. These are tapes of either versions of Alone, Wash, etc. You wouldn't do that if you were a millionaire.
There is not, in fact, "zero chance" he's a millionaire. There are plenty of reasons a person harboring a decades-long grudge would sell those tapes.
There was not a GoFundMe for his daughter. There was a FB "birthday fundraiser" in which he asked folks to contribute, on his birthday, to his daughter's ongoing education.
That said, being a millionaire and being extremely wealthy are two different things, so absolutely, his life is nowhere near the same as the rest of the guys in the band, but Dave is not broke, has not "been broke for decades."
Sorry, no one is going to convince me that Dave A is wealthy today for drumming on two records.
Yeah two records that combined to sell like 15 million copies. And he's credited as songwriter on every song except for Nothingman, Better Man, Satan's Bed, and Stupid Mop. That wouldn't make him "wealthy." As Chris Rock said once, "Shaq is rich, the white man that signs his check....he's wealthy." But "zero chance he's a millionaire" isn't correct either. There's a good chance he's a millionaire. Or at least he certainly once was one. Who knows about these days.
Even if he is a millionaire you absolutely can’t retire on that at age 27 or whenever it was. It’s next to impossible at 65 if that’s your entire retirement portfolio as I bet his social security wages for the last 30 years were sporadic at best.
plug 1 million into a retirement draw down calculator. It’s not a lot so whatever the number is doesn’t matter, it’s not wealthy or set for life
If you’re smart about it you totally can. I don’t know how royalties work or the details of their contract, but if he just got 10 cents a record that 1.5 million just from album sales. Add touring in their heyday, even though were cheap they were still selling out and playing a lot. $3 million dollars and you are careful and invest, if you get a 3% return you’re getting 90k a year without touching the original investment. Thats not a wealthy lifestyle, but it certainly isn’t broke. Now do I think he didn’t spend his money and invested it instead? Probably not. Especially since he probably expected to be in the band longer. But a couple million dollars in your 20s, you can definitely make that work if you plan ahead. Most people probably don’t if they fall into it though.
These Dave threads make me curious about royalties. Since pearl jam was in the golden age of CD sales, am I naïve to think that Dave would be set for life? I know these boards aren't about gossiping, and I don't want to speculate - I just remember a thread a while back where Mike mentioned that decades later he was still getting a few grand of royalty payments from ten.
Dave is a millionaire. Not to the extent that the other guys in the band are but, unless he's been extremely careless with his finances, he is not going to be "serving us fries" (as another poster put it) at any point in his life.
There's zero chance he's a millionaire. I bet he's been broke for decades. I know for a fact he has sold some of his original tapes (Stuffins) to fans. These are tapes of either versions of Alone, Wash, etc. You wouldn't do that if you were a millionaire.
There is not, in fact, "zero chance" he's a millionaire. There are plenty of reasons a person harboring a decades-long grudge would sell those tapes.
There was not a GoFundMe for his daughter. There was a FB "birthday fundraiser" in which he asked folks to contribute, on his birthday, to his daughter's ongoing education.
That said, being a millionaire and being extremely wealthy are two different things, so absolutely, his life is nowhere near the same as the rest of the guys in the band, but Dave is not broke, has not "been broke for decades."
Sorry, no one is going to convince me that Dave A is wealthy today for drumming on two records.
Yeah two records that combined to sell like 15 million copies. And he's credited as songwriter on every song except for Nothingman, Better Man, Satan's Bed, and Stupid Mop. That wouldn't make him "wealthy." As Chris Rock said once, "Shaq is rich, the white man that signs his check....he's wealthy." But "zero chance he's a millionaire" isn't correct either. There's a good chance he's a millionaire. Or at least he certainly once was one. Who knows about these days.
Even if he is a millionaire you absolutely can’t retire on that at age 27 or whenever it was. It’s next to impossible at 65 if that’s your entire retirement portfolio as I bet his social security wages for the last 30 years were sporadic at best.
plug 1 million into a retirement draw down calculator. It’s not a lot so whatever the number is doesn’t matter, it’s not wealthy or set for life
If you’re smart about it you totally can. I don’t know how royalties work or the details of their contract, but if he just got 10 cents a record that 1.5 million just from album sales. Add touring in their heyday, even though were cheap they were still selling out and playing a lot. $3 million dollars and you are careful and invest, if you get a 3% return you’re getting 90k a year without touching the original investment. Thats not a wealthy lifestyle, but it certainly isn’t broke. Now do I think he didn’t spend his money and invested it instead? Probably not. Especially since he probably expected to be in the band longer. But a couple million dollars in your 20s, you can definitely make that work if you plan ahead. Most people probably don’t if they fall into it though.
If he bought $100,000 worth of Amazon stock in 1997, it would be worth well over $10 million today, so it all depends on how you invest that money (and how profligate or frugal you are can make a big difference, too).
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Stop reacting so sensitively. Dave A doesn't even cry this much.
So, stop not making sense.
But please keep acting out. It's cute. Dave A doesn't even act out this much
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One thing I want to point out here, and I do intend to imply any disrespect to Matt, whose absence was clearly felt in Oakland and Fresno as exciting as those shows were, but there are four things that every Pearl Jam show in history have in common: Eddie Vedder, Mike McCready, Stone Gossard and Jeff Ament. Even the infamous San Francisco show in 1995 had Eddie for seven songs. They have played many shows without Matt. They have never played a show without Jeff. If there were a show without Jeff, would it be a Pearl Jam show?
It's facts. no need to believe.
he can also be a good drummer that is still 3rd or 4th on the depth chart in a band that has had several great drummers
coincidence?
September 23, 2002.
Thats not a wealthy lifestyle, but it certainly isn’t broke.
Now do I think he didn’t spend his money and invested it instead? Probably not. Especially since he probably expected to be in the band longer.
But a couple million dollars in your 20s, you can definitely make that work if you plan ahead. Most people probably don’t if they fall into it though.