Former drummer Dave Abbruzzese reflects on the tour cancellation
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Your guess is as good as mine. All I know that he's done since leaving the band is....mrussel1 said:
I 100% agree that he was a millionaire at some point. There is no doubt. I am talking specifically about today. What has he done with his life for the past 25 years? Anything of note? Does he have a job? Does he gig? If he had 2MM tax free 25 years ago, that's only 80k per year as of today, and he would be wiped out. Does anyone think he invested 2MM? Negative.Ledbetterman10 said:mrussel1 said:
Sorry, no one is going to convince me that Dave A is wealthy today for drumming on two records.heartofadog said:
There is not, in fact, "zero chance" he's a millionaire. There are plenty of reasons a person harboring a decades-long grudge would sell those tapes.mrussel1 said:
There's zero chance he's a millionaire. I bet he's been broke for decades. I know for a fact he has sold some of his original tapes (Stuffins) to fans. These are tapes of either versions of Alone, Wash, etc. You wouldn't do that if you were a millionaire.heartofadog said:
Dave is a millionaire. Not to the extent that the other guys in the band are but, unless he's been extremely careless with his finances, he is not going to be "serving us fries" (as another poster put it) at any point in his life.nautical_disaster said:These Dave threads make me curious about royalties. Since pearl jam was in the golden age of CD sales, am I naïve to think that Dave would be set for life? I know these boards aren't about gossiping, and I don't want to speculate - I just remember a thread a while back where Mike mentioned that decades later he was still getting a few grand of royalty payments from ten.
There was not a GoFundMe for his daughter. There was a FB "birthday fundraiser" in which he asked folks to contribute, on his birthday, to his daughter's ongoing education.
That said, being a millionaire and being extremely wealthy are two different things, so absolutely, his life is nowhere near the same as the rest of the guys in the band, but Dave is not broke, has not "been broke for decades."
Yeah two records that combined to sell like 15 million copies. And he's credited as songwriter on every song except for Nothingman, Better Man, Satan's Bed, and Stupid Mop. That wouldn't make him "wealthy." As Chris Rock said once, "Shaq is rich, the white man that signs his check....he's wealthy." But "zero chance he's a millionaire" isn't correct either. There's a good chance he's a millionaire. Or at least he certainly once was one. Who knows about these days.
-Something called "Green Romance Orchestra." I've never checked it out.
-Some sessions for Guns N' Roses' Chinese Democracy record
-Played Rearviewmirror virtually with a bunch of fans for the band's 30th anniversary
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Yup... I prefer MFC's Soundgarden work over his PJ work, as i think he was just a more dynamic drummer w/ SG, but that's also a whole different animal than PJ.mrussel1 said:
Me too. I love MFC's drumming. I think he's amazing. He's not just a cement mixer, he's technical, he has jazz root (which I love) and the band is so tight with him. That's the thing that stood out most in Oakland. They were all over the place and loose. It was cool for a show or two, but I wouldn't want that all the time.Merkin Baller said:PJammer4life said:The reason his is missed by us old timers was because was a fucking beast on that kit. I never met the guy, but heard most of the boots.
https://youtu.be/60jhpgpU-JE
Speak for yourself, this old timer is glad the band moved on from him.
I agree with everything you said about the band being tight around him. The guys is a f'ing machine behind the kit, a true joy to watch.
For my money though, the Jack Irons albums are my runaway favorites, so by default, he's my favorite PJ drummer.0 -
Agreed, those are the three best albums. But no way would he be physically able to do what Matt does and has done. Guy is in tremendous shape.Merkin Baller said:
Yup... I prefer MFC's Soundgarden work over his PJ work, as i think he was just a more dynamic drummer w/ SG, but that's also a whole different animal than PJ.mrussel1 said:
Me too. I love MFC's drumming. I think he's amazing. He's not just a cement mixer, he's technical, he has jazz root (which I love) and the band is so tight with him. That's the thing that stood out most in Oakland. They were all over the place and loose. It was cool for a show or two, but I wouldn't want that all the time.Merkin Baller said:PJammer4life said:The reason his is missed by us old timers was because was a fucking beast on that kit. I never met the guy, but heard most of the boots.
https://youtu.be/60jhpgpU-JE
Speak for yourself, this old timer is glad the band moved on from him.
I agree with everything you said about the band being tight around him. The guys is a f'ing machine behind the kit, a true joy to watch.
For my money though, the Jack Irons albums are my runaway favorites, so by default, he's my favorite PJ drummer.0 -
According to my calculations that leaves another 10%. Does that 10% represent people sick of hearing about Dave A?Spiritual_Chaos said:
82% of people going to the shows are there for Jeremy, Alive, Black and Evenflow.tbergs said:Oh boy, another Dave thread. Some fans are so obsessed with 1992. So weird.
The 8% not "obsessed with 1992" are de facto the outlier. As in, the "weird".0 -
My bad. I'm not a friend or follower of his on FB. So it didn't show up on my feed as a typical birthday thing, it just showed up as a fundraiser.heartofadog said:mrussel1 said:
There's zero chance he's a millionaire. I bet he's been broke for decades. I know for a fact he has sold some of his original tapes (Stuffins) to fans. These are tapes of either versions of Alone, Wash, etc. You wouldn't do that if you were a millionaire.heartofadog said:
Dave is a millionaire. Not to the extent that the other guys in the band are but, unless he's been extremely careless with his finances, he is not going to be "serving us fries" (as another poster put it) at any point in his life.nautical_disaster said:These Dave threads make me curious about royalties. Since pearl jam was in the golden age of CD sales, am I naïve to think that Dave would be set for life? I know these boards aren't about gossiping, and I don't want to speculate - I just remember a thread a while back where Mike mentioned that decades later he was still getting a few grand of royalty payments from ten.
There was not a GoFundMe for his daughter. There was a FB "birthday fundraiser" in which he asked folks to contribute, on his birthday, to his daughter's ongoing education.0 -
More like Dave Abruzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....
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bmurray06 said:
According to my calculations that leaves another 10%. Does that 10% represent people sick of hearing about Dave A?Spiritual_Chaos said:
82% of people going to the shows are there for Jeremy, Alive, Black and Evenflow.tbergs said:Oh boy, another Dave thread. Some fans are so obsessed with 1992. So weird.
The 8% not "obsessed with 1992" are de facto the outlier. As in, the "weird".
Thank you for asking.
Those 10% are the ones that can find value both in 1992 and the present.
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His time with GnG predates anything considered ”Chinese Democracy” I think. He was there when Duff was still in the band. But maybe some jam that is CD connected happened at that time.Ledbetterman10 said:
Your guess is as good as mine. All I know that he's done since leaving the band is....mrussel1 said:
I 100% agree that he was a millionaire at some point. There is no doubt. I am talking specifically about today. What has he done with his life for the past 25 years? Anything of note? Does he have a job? Does he gig? If he had 2MM tax free 25 years ago, that's only 80k per year as of today, and he would be wiped out. Does anyone think he invested 2MM? Negative.Ledbetterman10 said:mrussel1 said:
Sorry, no one is going to convince me that Dave A is wealthy today for drumming on two records.heartofadog said:
There is not, in fact, "zero chance" he's a millionaire. There are plenty of reasons a person harboring a decades-long grudge would sell those tapes.mrussel1 said:
There's zero chance he's a millionaire. I bet he's been broke for decades. I know for a fact he has sold some of his original tapes (Stuffins) to fans. These are tapes of either versions of Alone, Wash, etc. You wouldn't do that if you were a millionaire.heartofadog said:
Dave is a millionaire. Not to the extent that the other guys in the band are but, unless he's been extremely careless with his finances, he is not going to be "serving us fries" (as another poster put it) at any point in his life.nautical_disaster said:These Dave threads make me curious about royalties. Since pearl jam was in the golden age of CD sales, am I naïve to think that Dave would be set for life? I know these boards aren't about gossiping, and I don't want to speculate - I just remember a thread a while back where Mike mentioned that decades later he was still getting a few grand of royalty payments from ten.
There was not a GoFundMe for his daughter. There was a FB "birthday fundraiser" in which he asked folks to contribute, on his birthday, to his daughter's ongoing education.
That said, being a millionaire and being extremely wealthy are two different things, so absolutely, his life is nowhere near the same as the rest of the guys in the band, but Dave is not broke, has not "been broke for decades."
Yeah two records that combined to sell like 15 million copies. And he's credited as songwriter on every song except for Nothingman, Better Man, Satan's Bed, and Stupid Mop. That wouldn't make him "wealthy." As Chris Rock said once, "Shaq is rich, the white man that signs his check....he's wealthy." But "zero chance he's a millionaire" isn't correct either. There's a good chance he's a millionaire. Or at least he certainly once was one. Who knows about these days.
-Something called "Green Romance Orchestra." I've never checked it out.
-Some sessions for Guns N' Roses' Chinese Democracy record
-Played Rearviewmirror virtually with a bunch of fans for the band's 30th anniversary
That's all I got.
I am no GnR expert.
And the best drummer Pearl Jam has ever had is Matt Chamberlain. On the live disc that came with the To Venus and Back album. No contest."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
He was also touring with Stevie Salas and Bernard Fowler in a band called the IMFs from 2009-2013 (I think)Ledbetterman10 said:
Your guess is as good as mine. All I know that he's done since leaving the band is....mrussel1 said:
I 100% agree that he was a millionaire at some point. There is no doubt. I am talking specifically about today. What has he done with his life for the past 25 years? Anything of note? Does he have a job? Does he gig? If he had 2MM tax free 25 years ago, that's only 80k per year as of today, and he would be wiped out. Does anyone think he invested 2MM? Negative.Ledbetterman10 said:mrussel1 said:
Sorry, no one is going to convince me that Dave A is wealthy today for drumming on two records.heartofadog said:
There is not, in fact, "zero chance" he's a millionaire. There are plenty of reasons a person harboring a decades-long grudge would sell those tapes.mrussel1 said:
There's zero chance he's a millionaire. I bet he's been broke for decades. I know for a fact he has sold some of his original tapes (Stuffins) to fans. These are tapes of either versions of Alone, Wash, etc. You wouldn't do that if you were a millionaire.heartofadog said:
Dave is a millionaire. Not to the extent that the other guys in the band are but, unless he's been extremely careless with his finances, he is not going to be "serving us fries" (as another poster put it) at any point in his life.nautical_disaster said:These Dave threads make me curious about royalties. Since pearl jam was in the golden age of CD sales, am I naïve to think that Dave would be set for life? I know these boards aren't about gossiping, and I don't want to speculate - I just remember a thread a while back where Mike mentioned that decades later he was still getting a few grand of royalty payments from ten.
There was not a GoFundMe for his daughter. There was a FB "birthday fundraiser" in which he asked folks to contribute, on his birthday, to his daughter's ongoing education.
That said, being a millionaire and being extremely wealthy are two different things, so absolutely, his life is nowhere near the same as the rest of the guys in the band, but Dave is not broke, has not "been broke for decades."
Yeah two records that combined to sell like 15 million copies. And he's credited as songwriter on every song except for Nothingman, Better Man, Satan's Bed, and Stupid Mop. That wouldn't make him "wealthy." As Chris Rock said once, "Shaq is rich, the white man that signs his check....he's wealthy." But "zero chance he's a millionaire" isn't correct either. There's a good chance he's a millionaire. Or at least he certainly once was one. Who knows about these days.
-Something called "Green Romance Orchestra." I've never checked it out.
-Some sessions for Guns N' Roses' Chinese Democracy record
-Played Rearviewmirror virtually with a bunch of fans for the band's 30th anniversary
That's all I got.
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aisleseats said:
Yeah, wasn't there just a Go Fund Me or something circulating the other day asking for money to help pay his daughter's college bills?mrussel1 said:
There's zero chance he's a millionaire. I bet he's been broke for decades. I know for a fact he has sold some of his original tapes (Stuffins) to fans. These are tapes of either versions of Alone, Wash, etc. You wouldn't do that if you were a millionaire.heartofadog said:
Dave is a millionaire. Not to the extent that the other guys in the band are but, unless he's been extremely careless with his finances, he is not going to be "serving us fries" (as another poster put it) at any point in his life.nautical_disaster said:These Dave threads make me curious about royalties. Since pearl jam was in the golden age of CD sales, am I naïve to think that Dave would be set for life? I know these boards aren't about gossiping, and I don't want to speculate - I just remember a thread a while back where Mike mentioned that decades later he was still getting a few grand of royalty payments from ten.
internet says his net worth is three mil. A few of these search results have the same amount. Maybe not accurate, but he has songwriter credits on a bunch of songs so does get some income from that each year.
https://networthpost.org/dave-abbruzzese-net-worth/
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I’m not saying permanently, but a few of us would have loved to see Dave A for a single show in Sacto while Matt was out.mrussel1 said:
Me too. I love MFC's drumming. I think he's amazing. He's not just a cement mixer, he's technical, he has jazz root (which I love) and the band is so tight with him. That's the thing that stood out most in Oakland. They were all over the place and loose. It was cool for a show or two, but I wouldn't want that all the time.Merkin Baller said:PJammer4life said:The reason his is missed by us old timers was because was a fucking beast on that kit. I never met the guy, but heard most of the boots.
https://youtu.be/60jhpgpU-JE
Speak for yourself, this old timer is glad the band moved on from him.
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Tell us more about what you think might have happened that time he almost became the drummer for GnR.Spiritual_Chaos said:
His time with GnG predates anything considered ”Chinese Democracy” I think. He was there when Duff was still in the band. But maybe some jam that is CD connected happened at that time.Ledbetterman10 said:
Your guess is as good as mine. All I know that he's done since leaving the band is....mrussel1 said:
I 100% agree that he was a millionaire at some point. There is no doubt. I am talking specifically about today. What has he done with his life for the past 25 years? Anything of note? Does he have a job? Does he gig? If he had 2MM tax free 25 years ago, that's only 80k per year as of today, and he would be wiped out. Does anyone think he invested 2MM? Negative.Ledbetterman10 said:mrussel1 said:
Sorry, no one is going to convince me that Dave A is wealthy today for drumming on two records.heartofadog said:
There is not, in fact, "zero chance" he's a millionaire. There are plenty of reasons a person harboring a decades-long grudge would sell those tapes.mrussel1 said:
There's zero chance he's a millionaire. I bet he's been broke for decades. I know for a fact he has sold some of his original tapes (Stuffins) to fans. These are tapes of either versions of Alone, Wash, etc. You wouldn't do that if you were a millionaire.heartofadog said:
Dave is a millionaire. Not to the extent that the other guys in the band are but, unless he's been extremely careless with his finances, he is not going to be "serving us fries" (as another poster put it) at any point in his life.nautical_disaster said:These Dave threads make me curious about royalties. Since pearl jam was in the golden age of CD sales, am I naïve to think that Dave would be set for life? I know these boards aren't about gossiping, and I don't want to speculate - I just remember a thread a while back where Mike mentioned that decades later he was still getting a few grand of royalty payments from ten.
There was not a GoFundMe for his daughter. There was a FB "birthday fundraiser" in which he asked folks to contribute, on his birthday, to his daughter's ongoing education.
That said, being a millionaire and being extremely wealthy are two different things, so absolutely, his life is nowhere near the same as the rest of the guys in the band, but Dave is not broke, has not "been broke for decades."
Yeah two records that combined to sell like 15 million copies. And he's credited as songwriter on every song except for Nothingman, Better Man, Satan's Bed, and Stupid Mop. That wouldn't make him "wealthy." As Chris Rock said once, "Shaq is rich, the white man that signs his check....he's wealthy." But "zero chance he's a millionaire" isn't correct either. There's a good chance he's a millionaire. Or at least he certainly once was one. Who knows about these days.
-Something called "Green Romance Orchestra." I've never checked it out.
-Some sessions for Guns N' Roses' Chinese Democracy record
-Played Rearviewmirror virtually with a bunch of fans for the band's 30th anniversary
That's all I got.
I am no GnR expert.
And the best drummer Pearl Jam has ever had is Matt Chamberlain. On the live disc that came with the To Venus and Back album. No contest.0 -
Why do you have to be like this.Merkin Baller said:
Tell us more about what you think might have happened that time he almost became the drummer for GnR.Spiritual_Chaos said:
His time with GnG predates anything considered ”Chinese Democracy” I think. He was there when Duff was still in the band. But maybe some jam that is CD connected happened at that time.Ledbetterman10 said:
Your guess is as good as mine. All I know that he's done since leaving the band is....mrussel1 said:
I 100% agree that he was a millionaire at some point. There is no doubt. I am talking specifically about today. What has he done with his life for the past 25 years? Anything of note? Does he have a job? Does he gig? If he had 2MM tax free 25 years ago, that's only 80k per year as of today, and he would be wiped out. Does anyone think he invested 2MM? Negative.Ledbetterman10 said:mrussel1 said:
Sorry, no one is going to convince me that Dave A is wealthy today for drumming on two records.heartofadog said:
There is not, in fact, "zero chance" he's a millionaire. There are plenty of reasons a person harboring a decades-long grudge would sell those tapes.mrussel1 said:
There's zero chance he's a millionaire. I bet he's been broke for decades. I know for a fact he has sold some of his original tapes (Stuffins) to fans. These are tapes of either versions of Alone, Wash, etc. You wouldn't do that if you were a millionaire.heartofadog said:
Dave is a millionaire. Not to the extent that the other guys in the band are but, unless he's been extremely careless with his finances, he is not going to be "serving us fries" (as another poster put it) at any point in his life.nautical_disaster said:These Dave threads make me curious about royalties. Since pearl jam was in the golden age of CD sales, am I naïve to think that Dave would be set for life? I know these boards aren't about gossiping, and I don't want to speculate - I just remember a thread a while back where Mike mentioned that decades later he was still getting a few grand of royalty payments from ten.
There was not a GoFundMe for his daughter. There was a FB "birthday fundraiser" in which he asked folks to contribute, on his birthday, to his daughter's ongoing education.
That said, being a millionaire and being extremely wealthy are two different things, so absolutely, his life is nowhere near the same as the rest of the guys in the band, but Dave is not broke, has not "been broke for decades."
Yeah two records that combined to sell like 15 million copies. And he's credited as songwriter on every song except for Nothingman, Better Man, Satan's Bed, and Stupid Mop. That wouldn't make him "wealthy." As Chris Rock said once, "Shaq is rich, the white man that signs his check....he's wealthy." But "zero chance he's a millionaire" isn't correct either. There's a good chance he's a millionaire. Or at least he certainly once was one. Who knows about these days.
-Something called "Green Romance Orchestra." I've never checked it out.
-Some sessions for Guns N' Roses' Chinese Democracy record
-Played Rearviewmirror virtually with a bunch of fans for the band's 30th anniversary
That's all I got.
I am no GnR expert.
And the best drummer Pearl Jam has ever had is Matt Chamberlain. On the live disc that came with the To Venus and Back album. No contest."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
The spread on EV’s estimates are like 20 million.Lerxst1992 said:aisleseats said:
Yeah, wasn't there just a Go Fund Me or something circulating the other day asking for money to help pay his daughter's college bills?mrussel1 said:
There's zero chance he's a millionaire. I bet he's been broke for decades. I know for a fact he has sold some of his original tapes (Stuffins) to fans. These are tapes of either versions of Alone, Wash, etc. You wouldn't do that if you were a millionaire.heartofadog said:
Dave is a millionaire. Not to the extent that the other guys in the band are but, unless he's been extremely careless with his finances, he is not going to be "serving us fries" (as another poster put it) at any point in his life.nautical_disaster said:These Dave threads make me curious about royalties. Since pearl jam was in the golden age of CD sales, am I naïve to think that Dave would be set for life? I know these boards aren't about gossiping, and I don't want to speculate - I just remember a thread a while back where Mike mentioned that decades later he was still getting a few grand of royalty payments from ten.
internet says his net worth is three mil. A few of these search results have the same amount. Maybe not accurate, but he has songwriter credits on a bunch of songs so does get some income from that each year.
https://networthpost.org/dave-abbruzzese-net-worth/
Dave A is well within the margin of error. It could be zero
I think you get a better estimate dealing with huge sums of money as it’s a lot either way vs it being some money or none
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Celebrity net worth numbers are as precise as astrology."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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Cropduster-80 said:
The spread on EV’s estimates are like 20 million.Lerxst1992 said:aisleseats said:
Yeah, wasn't there just a Go Fund Me or something circulating the other day asking for money to help pay his daughter's college bills?mrussel1 said:
There's zero chance he's a millionaire. I bet he's been broke for decades. I know for a fact he has sold some of his original tapes (Stuffins) to fans. These are tapes of either versions of Alone, Wash, etc. You wouldn't do that if you were a millionaire.heartofadog said:
Dave is a millionaire. Not to the extent that the other guys in the band are but, unless he's been extremely careless with his finances, he is not going to be "serving us fries" (as another poster put it) at any point in his life.nautical_disaster said:These Dave threads make me curious about royalties. Since pearl jam was in the golden age of CD sales, am I naïve to think that Dave would be set for life? I know these boards aren't about gossiping, and I don't want to speculate - I just remember a thread a while back where Mike mentioned that decades later he was still getting a few grand of royalty payments from ten.
internet says his net worth is three mil. A few of these search results have the same amount. Maybe not accurate, but he has songwriter credits on a bunch of songs so does get some income from that each year.
https://networthpost.org/dave-abbruzzese-net-worth/
Dave A is well within the margin of error. It could be zero
I think you get a better estimate dealing with huge sums of money as it’s a lot either way vs it being some money or noneYes these estimates can be off. Good chance EV’s worth could have went down 20% in the last 3 months with this horrific stock market…and real estate decline is on its way unfortunately if that’s where he invests. It’s possible Dave has some money/property stashed away, but not a ton.0 -
Spiritual_Chaos said:
Why do you have to be like this.Merkin Baller said:
Tell us more about what you think might have happened that time he almost became the drummer for GnR.Spiritual_Chaos said:
His time with GnG predates anything considered ”Chinese Democracy” I think. He was there when Duff was still in the band. But maybe some jam that is CD connected happened at that time.Ledbetterman10 said:
Your guess is as good as mine. All I know that he's done since leaving the band is....mrussel1 said:
I 100% agree that he was a millionaire at some point. There is no doubt. I am talking specifically about today. What has he done with his life for the past 25 years? Anything of note? Does he have a job? Does he gig? If he had 2MM tax free 25 years ago, that's only 80k per year as of today, and he would be wiped out. Does anyone think he invested 2MM? Negative.Ledbetterman10 said:mrussel1 said:
Sorry, no one is going to convince me that Dave A is wealthy today for drumming on two records.heartofadog said:
There is not, in fact, "zero chance" he's a millionaire. There are plenty of reasons a person harboring a decades-long grudge would sell those tapes.mrussel1 said:
There's zero chance he's a millionaire. I bet he's been broke for decades. I know for a fact he has sold some of his original tapes (Stuffins) to fans. These are tapes of either versions of Alone, Wash, etc. You wouldn't do that if you were a millionaire.heartofadog said:
Dave is a millionaire. Not to the extent that the other guys in the band are but, unless he's been extremely careless with his finances, he is not going to be "serving us fries" (as another poster put it) at any point in his life.nautical_disaster said:These Dave threads make me curious about royalties. Since pearl jam was in the golden age of CD sales, am I naïve to think that Dave would be set for life? I know these boards aren't about gossiping, and I don't want to speculate - I just remember a thread a while back where Mike mentioned that decades later he was still getting a few grand of royalty payments from ten.
There was not a GoFundMe for his daughter. There was a FB "birthday fundraiser" in which he asked folks to contribute, on his birthday, to his daughter's ongoing education.
That said, being a millionaire and being extremely wealthy are two different things, so absolutely, his life is nowhere near the same as the rest of the guys in the band, but Dave is not broke, has not "been broke for decades."
Yeah two records that combined to sell like 15 million copies. And he's credited as songwriter on every song except for Nothingman, Better Man, Satan's Bed, and Stupid Mop. That wouldn't make him "wealthy." As Chris Rock said once, "Shaq is rich, the white man that signs his check....he's wealthy." But "zero chance he's a millionaire" isn't correct either. There's a good chance he's a millionaire. Or at least he certainly once was one. Who knows about these days.
-Something called "Green Romance Orchestra." I've never checked it out.
-Some sessions for Guns N' Roses' Chinese Democracy record
-Played Rearviewmirror virtually with a bunch of fans for the band's 30th anniversary
That's all I got.
I am no GnR expert.
And the best drummer Pearl Jam has ever had is Matt Chamberlain. On the live disc that came with the To Venus and Back album. No contest.
Just pointing out that you can only speculate about what may or may not have happened that time he almost became the drummer for GnR but didn't. & speculation is just that, speculation.
Take it easy... you know what they say about people who react sensitively.
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The title of this thread is clickbaityI know I was born and I know that I'll die. The in between is mine.0
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What do you mean? He himself has talked about that period. And there are other sources regarding the b and, and the CD songs and where they came from?Merkin Baller said:Spiritual_Chaos said:
Why do you have to be like this.Merkin Baller said:
Tell us more about what you think might have happened that time he almost became the drummer for GnR.Spiritual_Chaos said:
His time with GnG predates anything considered ”Chinese Democracy” I think. He was there when Duff was still in the band. But maybe some jam that is CD connected happened at that time.Ledbetterman10 said:
Your guess is as good as mine. All I know that he's done since leaving the band is....mrussel1 said:
I 100% agree that he was a millionaire at some point. There is no doubt. I am talking specifically about today. What has he done with his life for the past 25 years? Anything of note? Does he have a job? Does he gig? If he had 2MM tax free 25 years ago, that's only 80k per year as of today, and he would be wiped out. Does anyone think he invested 2MM? Negative.Ledbetterman10 said:mrussel1 said:
Sorry, no one is going to convince me that Dave A is wealthy today for drumming on two records.heartofadog said:
There is not, in fact, "zero chance" he's a millionaire. There are plenty of reasons a person harboring a decades-long grudge would sell those tapes.mrussel1 said:
There's zero chance he's a millionaire. I bet he's been broke for decades. I know for a fact he has sold some of his original tapes (Stuffins) to fans. These are tapes of either versions of Alone, Wash, etc. You wouldn't do that if you were a millionaire.heartofadog said:
Dave is a millionaire. Not to the extent that the other guys in the band are but, unless he's been extremely careless with his finances, he is not going to be "serving us fries" (as another poster put it) at any point in his life.nautical_disaster said:These Dave threads make me curious about royalties. Since pearl jam was in the golden age of CD sales, am I naïve to think that Dave would be set for life? I know these boards aren't about gossiping, and I don't want to speculate - I just remember a thread a while back where Mike mentioned that decades later he was still getting a few grand of royalty payments from ten.
There was not a GoFundMe for his daughter. There was a FB "birthday fundraiser" in which he asked folks to contribute, on his birthday, to his daughter's ongoing education.
That said, being a millionaire and being extremely wealthy are two different things, so absolutely, his life is nowhere near the same as the rest of the guys in the band, but Dave is not broke, has not "been broke for decades."
Yeah two records that combined to sell like 15 million copies. And he's credited as songwriter on every song except for Nothingman, Better Man, Satan's Bed, and Stupid Mop. That wouldn't make him "wealthy." As Chris Rock said once, "Shaq is rich, the white man that signs his check....he's wealthy." But "zero chance he's a millionaire" isn't correct either. There's a good chance he's a millionaire. Or at least he certainly once was one. Who knows about these days.
-Something called "Green Romance Orchestra." I've never checked it out.
-Some sessions for Guns N' Roses' Chinese Democracy record
-Played Rearviewmirror virtually with a bunch of fans for the band's 30th anniversary
That's all I got.
I am no GnR expert.
And the best drummer Pearl Jam has ever had is Matt Chamberlain. On the live disc that came with the To Venus and Back album. No contest.
Just pointing out that you can only speculate about what may or may not have happened that time he almost became the drummer for GnR but didn't. & speculation is just that, speculation.
So take it easy... you know what they say about people who don't make sensePost edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
I would have just loved to see a show in Sac period. They could have thrown drumsticks at my head for all I care.PJammer4life said:
I’m not saying permanently, but a few of us would have loved to see Dave A for a single show in Sacto while Matt was out.mrussel1 said:
Me too. I love MFC's drumming. I think he's amazing. He's not just a cement mixer, he's technical, he has jazz root (which I love) and the band is so tight with him. That's the thing that stood out most in Oakland. They were all over the place and loose. It was cool for a show or two, but I wouldn't want that all the time.Merkin Baller said:PJammer4life said:The reason his is missed by us old timers was because was a fucking beast on that kit. I never met the guy, but heard most of the boots.
https://youtu.be/60jhpgpU-JE
Speak for yourself, this old timer is glad the band moved on from him.Peace,Love and Pearl Jam.0
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