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You are correct. The only Republicans whoever come out and forcefully object to her deplorable behavior are the ones who the modern Republican party has shunned, censored, primaried, and pushed out of their party. The modern Republican party is more than happy to let Marge do her thing because they do not want ruffle any feathers with Trump or his deplorable base.Merkin Baller said:
Where are the hard line Rs that wish she would STFU? Do they even exist?HughFreakingDillon said:
I mean any face of either party becomes mainstream....she's not mainstream. she's a kook that is laughed at by moderates and lefties (if most moderates even know who she is). and probably even hard line R's that just wish she'd STFU. Trump has had a bunch of losers/weirdos speak at his rallies, anyone who peddles his lies and stroke his fragile ego....sure, it elevates them, but it doesn't automatically make you the face of the party.The Juggler said:
Cross the media line? So....Adam Kinzinger? lol I don't know what you mean by that. Sounds like you are saying Turmp inadvertently made her the face of the Republican party. If so, oops, that's on him. You get prime speaking slots with the President of the Untied States, you are automatically elevated in status. Democrats would be smart to exploit that from her to eternity, just like Republicans have done for decades to the far left.HughFreakingDillon said:
disagree. trump likes to trot out people who fawn over him no matter who it is, especially someone who is willing to believe in the farce of his nonsense. the face of the party would be someone who could cross the media line instead of just blathering and shouting on fox news and newsmax.The Juggler said:
The leader of the Republican party is Donald Trump and he has chosen to have her speak at his rallies. She helped plan January 6th with him. That tells you all you need to know.HughFreakingDillon said:
nope. again, I don't view them as the same....it was just the closest example.The Juggler said:
Same reason Marge has pics of herself with Trump and speaks at Trump rallies.HughFreakingDillon said:
yeah, ted cruz I say. why do you think she took a picture with him and posted it? instead of say, mike crapo?The Juggler said:
Ted Cruz, you say?HughFreakingDillon said:they aren't the face of the party anymore than the squad is the face of the democratic party, no matter how much fox news yells it from the rafters. they are known as the extreme wings of each party, the loudest ones in the room. obviously the squad (in my estimation) have more respect from their like minded peers than the toxic twins do, but still, just because one party claims someone is the face of the other party, doesn't make it so.
ted cruz, lindsay graham, gym jordan, trump, mcconnell; for better or worse, those are the faces of the GOP.
Do you see any pictures of Ilhan Omar and Joe Biden (to use your example)?
So, in actuality, it should be easier for Democrats to make her the face of the Republican party than it is for Repubs to do the same for members of the Squad.
she and boebert are great for ridiculous soundbites that late night talk shows like to laugh at....but they are far from the face of the party.
maybe we just have differing opinions on what "face of the party" means. to me it means when you think of the party, the first person that comes to mind. I can't imagine she's the first person that comes to mind with many people.
yes, i agree it would benefit dems to make them the faces of the republican party, but I highly doubt it would ever stick.
I'm under the impression the GOP of 2022 enjoys having her around.Post edited by The Juggler onwww.myspace.com0 -
Lindsey Graham at the SOTU: "oh just shut up".Merkin Baller said:
Where are the hard line Rs that wish she would STFU? Do they even exist?HughFreakingDillon said:
I mean any face of either party becomes mainstream....she's not mainstream. she's a kook that is laughed at by moderates and lefties (if most moderates even know who she is). and probably even hard line R's that just wish she'd STFU. Trump has had a bunch of losers/weirdos speak at his rallies, anyone who peddles his lies and stroke his fragile ego....sure, it elevates them, but it doesn't automatically make you the face of the party.The Juggler said:
Cross the media line? So....Adam Kinzinger? lol I don't know what you mean by that. Sounds like you are saying Turmp inadvertently made her the face of the Republican party. If so, oops, that's on him. You get prime speaking slots with the President of the Untied States, you are automatically elevated in status. Democrats would be smart to exploit that from her to eternity, just like Republicans have done for decades to the far left.HughFreakingDillon said:
disagree. trump likes to trot out people who fawn over him no matter who it is, especially someone who is willing to believe in the farce of his nonsense. the face of the party would be someone who could cross the media line instead of just blathering and shouting on fox news and newsmax.The Juggler said:
The leader of the Republican party is Donald Trump and he has chosen to have her speak at his rallies. She helped plan January 6th with him. That tells you all you need to know.HughFreakingDillon said:
nope. again, I don't view them as the same....it was just the closest example.The Juggler said:
Same reason Marge has pics of herself with Trump and speaks at Trump rallies.HughFreakingDillon said:
yeah, ted cruz I say. why do you think she took a picture with him and posted it? instead of say, mike crapo?The Juggler said:
Ted Cruz, you say?HughFreakingDillon said:they aren't the face of the party anymore than the squad is the face of the democratic party, no matter how much fox news yells it from the rafters. they are known as the extreme wings of each party, the loudest ones in the room. obviously the squad (in my estimation) have more respect from their like minded peers than the toxic twins do, but still, just because one party claims someone is the face of the other party, doesn't make it so.
ted cruz, lindsay graham, gym jordan, trump, mcconnell; for better or worse, those are the faces of the GOP.
Do you see any pictures of Ilhan Omar and Joe Biden (to use your example)?
So, in actuality, it should be easier for Democrats to make her the face of the Republican party than it is for Repubs to do the same for members of the Squad.
she and boebert are great for ridiculous soundbites that late night talk shows like to laugh at....but they are far from the face of the party.
maybe we just have differing opinions on what "face of the party" means. to me it means when you think of the party, the first person that comes to mind. I can't imagine she's the first person that comes to mind with many people.
yes, i agree it would benefit dems to make them the faces of the republican party, but I highly doubt it would ever stick.
I'm under the impression the GOP of 2022 enjoys having her around.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Ok, there’s one.HughFreakingDillon said:
Lindsey Graham at the SOTU: "oh just shut up".Merkin Baller said:
Where are the hard line Rs that wish she would STFU? Do they even exist?HughFreakingDillon said:
I mean any face of either party becomes mainstream....she's not mainstream. she's a kook that is laughed at by moderates and lefties (if most moderates even know who she is). and probably even hard line R's that just wish she'd STFU. Trump has had a bunch of losers/weirdos speak at his rallies, anyone who peddles his lies and stroke his fragile ego....sure, it elevates them, but it doesn't automatically make you the face of the party.The Juggler said:
Cross the media line? So....Adam Kinzinger? lol I don't know what you mean by that. Sounds like you are saying Turmp inadvertently made her the face of the Republican party. If so, oops, that's on him. You get prime speaking slots with the President of the Untied States, you are automatically elevated in status. Democrats would be smart to exploit that from her to eternity, just like Republicans have done for decades to the far left.HughFreakingDillon said:
disagree. trump likes to trot out people who fawn over him no matter who it is, especially someone who is willing to believe in the farce of his nonsense. the face of the party would be someone who could cross the media line instead of just blathering and shouting on fox news and newsmax.The Juggler said:
The leader of the Republican party is Donald Trump and he has chosen to have her speak at his rallies. She helped plan January 6th with him. That tells you all you need to know.HughFreakingDillon said:
nope. again, I don't view them as the same....it was just the closest example.The Juggler said:
Same reason Marge has pics of herself with Trump and speaks at Trump rallies.HughFreakingDillon said:
yeah, ted cruz I say. why do you think she took a picture with him and posted it? instead of say, mike crapo?The Juggler said:
Ted Cruz, you say?HughFreakingDillon said:they aren't the face of the party anymore than the squad is the face of the democratic party, no matter how much fox news yells it from the rafters. they are known as the extreme wings of each party, the loudest ones in the room. obviously the squad (in my estimation) have more respect from their like minded peers than the toxic twins do, but still, just because one party claims someone is the face of the other party, doesn't make it so.
ted cruz, lindsay graham, gym jordan, trump, mcconnell; for better or worse, those are the faces of the GOP.
Do you see any pictures of Ilhan Omar and Joe Biden (to use your example)?
So, in actuality, it should be easier for Democrats to make her the face of the Republican party than it is for Repubs to do the same for members of the Squad.
she and boebert are great for ridiculous soundbites that late night talk shows like to laugh at....but they are far from the face of the party.
maybe we just have differing opinions on what "face of the party" means. to me it means when you think of the party, the first person that comes to mind. I can't imagine she's the first person that comes to mind with many people.
yes, i agree it would benefit dems to make them the faces of the republican party, but I highly doubt it would ever stick.
I'm under the impression the GOP of 2022 enjoys having her around.I still maintain they are more than happy to keep her around. She’s good for the GOP bottom line of undermining our federal government.0 -
Not to mention that repub legislatures have gerrymandered their districts to make the likes of Maggie three names and Matt Getts Off very safe seats as well as make other red districts even redder. This reinforces them to be the face of the repub party. Add that repub leadership don’t condemn them and the establishment repubs are so measured and tempered in their criticism that its ineffective and a sign they’ve ceded their party to the POOTWH wing. Lindsey Flimsy Flip Flop Faloozy is and has been playing both sides of his party and has yet to condemn them and won’t.The Juggler said:
You are correct. The only Republicans whoever come out and forcefully object to her deplorable behavior are the ones who the modern Republican party has shunned, censored, primaried, and pushed out of their party. The modern Republican party is more than happy to let Marge do her thing because they do not want ruffle any feathers with Trump or his deplorable base.Merkin Baller said:
Where are the hard line Rs that wish she would STFU? Do they even exist?HughFreakingDillon said:
I mean any face of either party becomes mainstream....she's not mainstream. she's a kook that is laughed at by moderates and lefties (if most moderates even know who she is). and probably even hard line R's that just wish she'd STFU. Trump has had a bunch of losers/weirdos speak at his rallies, anyone who peddles his lies and stroke his fragile ego....sure, it elevates them, but it doesn't automatically make you the face of the party.The Juggler said:
Cross the media line? So....Adam Kinzinger? lol I don't know what you mean by that. Sounds like you are saying Turmp inadvertently made her the face of the Republican party. If so, oops, that's on him. You get prime speaking slots with the President of the Untied States, you are automatically elevated in status. Democrats would be smart to exploit that from her to eternity, just like Republicans have done for decades to the far left.HughFreakingDillon said:
disagree. trump likes to trot out people who fawn over him no matter who it is, especially someone who is willing to believe in the farce of his nonsense. the face of the party would be someone who could cross the media line instead of just blathering and shouting on fox news and newsmax.The Juggler said:
The leader of the Republican party is Donald Trump and he has chosen to have her speak at his rallies. She helped plan January 6th with him. That tells you all you need to know.HughFreakingDillon said:
nope. again, I don't view them as the same....it was just the closest example.The Juggler said:
Same reason Marge has pics of herself with Trump and speaks at Trump rallies.HughFreakingDillon said:
yeah, ted cruz I say. why do you think she took a picture with him and posted it? instead of say, mike crapo?The Juggler said:
Ted Cruz, you say?HughFreakingDillon said:they aren't the face of the party anymore than the squad is the face of the democratic party, no matter how much fox news yells it from the rafters. they are known as the extreme wings of each party, the loudest ones in the room. obviously the squad (in my estimation) have more respect from their like minded peers than the toxic twins do, but still, just because one party claims someone is the face of the other party, doesn't make it so.
ted cruz, lindsay graham, gym jordan, trump, mcconnell; for better or worse, those are the faces of the GOP.
Do you see any pictures of Ilhan Omar and Joe Biden (to use your example)?
So, in actuality, it should be easier for Democrats to make her the face of the Republican party than it is for Repubs to do the same for members of the Squad.
she and boebert are great for ridiculous soundbites that late night talk shows like to laugh at....but they are far from the face of the party.
maybe we just have differing opinions on what "face of the party" means. to me it means when you think of the party, the first person that comes to mind. I can't imagine she's the first person that comes to mind with many people.
yes, i agree it would benefit dems to make them the faces of the republican party, but I highly doubt it would ever stick.
I'm under the impression the GOP of 2022 enjoys having her around.
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I'm a little confused by this pivot. Yes, I know the R's are better at messaging. We've always agreed on this. Yes, I know making the toxic twins the face of the D party is, or should be, the goal. I just disagree that they've done that, or that they'll be successful at it, and then you seemingly agreed with me about that in your last paragraph after disagreeing with me on it the past 3 pages or so.The Juggler said:
This is politics, Hugh. Republicans have successfully convinced half the country that all Democrats are either communists or socialists or both---which doesn't make sense....but it doesn't have to because they just kept drilling it into people's heads over and over and over again. I know plenty of Republicans, who are rational people (or at least used to be) who now believe these things.HughFreakingDillon said:
I mean any face of either party becomes mainstream....she's not mainstream. she's a kook that is laughed at by moderates and lefties (if most moderates even know who she is). and probably even hard line R's that just wish she'd STFU. Trump has had a bunch of losers/weirdos speak at his rallies, anyone who peddles his lies and stroke his fragile ego....sure, it elevates them, but it doesn't automatically make you the face of the party.The Juggler said:
Cross the media line? So....Adam Kinzinger? lol I don't know what you mean by that. Sounds like you are saying Turmp inadvertently made her the face of the Republican party. If so, oops, that's on him. You get prime speaking slots with the President of the Untied States, you are automatically elevated in status. Democrats would be smart to exploit that from her to eternity, just like Republicans have done for decades to the far left.HughFreakingDillon said:
disagree. trump likes to trot out people who fawn over him no matter who it is, especially someone who is willing to believe in the farce of his nonsense. the face of the party would be someone who could cross the media line instead of just blathering and shouting on fox news and newsmax.The Juggler said:
The leader of the Republican party is Donald Trump and he has chosen to have her speak at his rallies. She helped plan January 6th with him. That tells you all you need to know.HughFreakingDillon said:
nope. again, I don't view them as the same....it was just the closest example.The Juggler said:
Same reason Marge has pics of herself with Trump and speaks at Trump rallies.HughFreakingDillon said:
yeah, ted cruz I say. why do you think she took a picture with him and posted it? instead of say, mike crapo?The Juggler said:
Ted Cruz, you say?HughFreakingDillon said:they aren't the face of the party anymore than the squad is the face of the democratic party, no matter how much fox news yells it from the rafters. they are known as the extreme wings of each party, the loudest ones in the room. obviously the squad (in my estimation) have more respect from their like minded peers than the toxic twins do, but still, just because one party claims someone is the face of the other party, doesn't make it so.
ted cruz, lindsay graham, gym jordan, trump, mcconnell; for better or worse, those are the faces of the GOP.
Do you see any pictures of Ilhan Omar and Joe Biden (to use your example)?
So, in actuality, it should be easier for Democrats to make her the face of the Republican party than it is for Repubs to do the same for members of the Squad.
she and boebert are great for ridiculous soundbites that late night talk shows like to laugh at....but they are far from the face of the party.
maybe we just have differing opinions on what "face of the party" means. to me it means when you think of the party, the first person that comes to mind. I can't imagine she's the first person that comes to mind with many people.
yes, i agree it would benefit dems to make them the faces of the republican party, but I highly doubt it would ever stick.
Making Marge the face of the Republican party is actually easier because the leaders of her party amplify her and refuse to condemn the things she says and does in any other way other than just issuing statements. Next year, there is a very decent chance she will have some kind of leadership role when/if the R's take back congress.
If you don't currently think of her as the face of the Republican party, it is because Democrats have done a poor job, thus far, of drilling it into people's heads. That is what needs to change. Because there are more and more people like her. She has a half million twitter followers, and Donald Trump is more than happy to have her speak at his rallies. If the show was on the other foot, Republicans would have already successfully made her the face of the Dems. Midterms are on the way, Democrats need to muddy up the waters and get moving on this.
maybe best to move on....By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Barr said today he would basically vote for any republican because the biggest threat to america is the progressive democrat agenda. I'm pretty sure that is the mainstream Republican party these days.HughFreakingDillon said:
Lindsey Graham at the SOTU: "oh just shut up".Merkin Baller said:
Where are the hard line Rs that wish she would STFU? Do they even exist?HughFreakingDillon said:
I mean any face of either party becomes mainstream....she's not mainstream. she's a kook that is laughed at by moderates and lefties (if most moderates even know who she is). and probably even hard line R's that just wish she'd STFU. Trump has had a bunch of losers/weirdos speak at his rallies, anyone who peddles his lies and stroke his fragile ego....sure, it elevates them, but it doesn't automatically make you the face of the party.The Juggler said:
Cross the media line? So....Adam Kinzinger? lol I don't know what you mean by that. Sounds like you are saying Turmp inadvertently made her the face of the Republican party. If so, oops, that's on him. You get prime speaking slots with the President of the Untied States, you are automatically elevated in status. Democrats would be smart to exploit that from her to eternity, just like Republicans have done for decades to the far left.HughFreakingDillon said:
disagree. trump likes to trot out people who fawn over him no matter who it is, especially someone who is willing to believe in the farce of his nonsense. the face of the party would be someone who could cross the media line instead of just blathering and shouting on fox news and newsmax.The Juggler said:
The leader of the Republican party is Donald Trump and he has chosen to have her speak at his rallies. She helped plan January 6th with him. That tells you all you need to know.HughFreakingDillon said:
nope. again, I don't view them as the same....it was just the closest example.The Juggler said:
Same reason Marge has pics of herself with Trump and speaks at Trump rallies.HughFreakingDillon said:
yeah, ted cruz I say. why do you think she took a picture with him and posted it? instead of say, mike crapo?The Juggler said:
Ted Cruz, you say?HughFreakingDillon said:they aren't the face of the party anymore than the squad is the face of the democratic party, no matter how much fox news yells it from the rafters. they are known as the extreme wings of each party, the loudest ones in the room. obviously the squad (in my estimation) have more respect from their like minded peers than the toxic twins do, but still, just because one party claims someone is the face of the other party, doesn't make it so.
ted cruz, lindsay graham, gym jordan, trump, mcconnell; for better or worse, those are the faces of the GOP.
Do you see any pictures of Ilhan Omar and Joe Biden (to use your example)?
So, in actuality, it should be easier for Democrats to make her the face of the Republican party than it is for Repubs to do the same for members of the Squad.
she and boebert are great for ridiculous soundbites that late night talk shows like to laugh at....but they are far from the face of the party.
maybe we just have differing opinions on what "face of the party" means. to me it means when you think of the party, the first person that comes to mind. I can't imagine she's the first person that comes to mind with many people.
yes, i agree it would benefit dems to make them the faces of the republican party, but I highly doubt it would ever stick.
I'm under the impression the GOP of 2022 enjoys having her around.Scio me nihil scire
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What? They're the face of the party and the dems need to drill that in people's heads over and over again. How is that a pivot? I've literally been saying that since they came into office last year. Read the article I posted the other day. It probably explains it better than I can.HughFreakingDillon said:
I'm a little confused by this pivot. Yes, I know the R's are better at messaging. We've always agreed on this. Yes, I know making the toxic twins the face of the D party is, or should be, the goal. I just disagree that they've done that, or that they'll be successful at it, and then you seemingly agreed with me about that in your last paragraph after disagreeing with me on it the past 3 pages or so.The Juggler said:
This is politics, Hugh. Republicans have successfully convinced half the country that all Democrats are either communists or socialists or both---which doesn't make sense....but it doesn't have to because they just kept drilling it into people's heads over and over and over again. I know plenty of Republicans, who are rational people (or at least used to be) who now believe these things.HughFreakingDillon said:
I mean any face of either party becomes mainstream....she's not mainstream. she's a kook that is laughed at by moderates and lefties (if most moderates even know who she is). and probably even hard line R's that just wish she'd STFU. Trump has had a bunch of losers/weirdos speak at his rallies, anyone who peddles his lies and stroke his fragile ego....sure, it elevates them, but it doesn't automatically make you the face of the party.The Juggler said:
Cross the media line? So....Adam Kinzinger? lol I don't know what you mean by that. Sounds like you are saying Turmp inadvertently made her the face of the Republican party. If so, oops, that's on him. You get prime speaking slots with the President of the Untied States, you are automatically elevated in status. Democrats would be smart to exploit that from her to eternity, just like Republicans have done for decades to the far left.HughFreakingDillon said:
disagree. trump likes to trot out people who fawn over him no matter who it is, especially someone who is willing to believe in the farce of his nonsense. the face of the party would be someone who could cross the media line instead of just blathering and shouting on fox news and newsmax.The Juggler said:
The leader of the Republican party is Donald Trump and he has chosen to have her speak at his rallies. She helped plan January 6th with him. That tells you all you need to know.HughFreakingDillon said:
nope. again, I don't view them as the same....it was just the closest example.The Juggler said:
Same reason Marge has pics of herself with Trump and speaks at Trump rallies.HughFreakingDillon said:
yeah, ted cruz I say. why do you think she took a picture with him and posted it? instead of say, mike crapo?The Juggler said:
Ted Cruz, you say?HughFreakingDillon said:they aren't the face of the party anymore than the squad is the face of the democratic party, no matter how much fox news yells it from the rafters. they are known as the extreme wings of each party, the loudest ones in the room. obviously the squad (in my estimation) have more respect from their like minded peers than the toxic twins do, but still, just because one party claims someone is the face of the other party, doesn't make it so.
ted cruz, lindsay graham, gym jordan, trump, mcconnell; for better or worse, those are the faces of the GOP.
Do you see any pictures of Ilhan Omar and Joe Biden (to use your example)?
So, in actuality, it should be easier for Democrats to make her the face of the Republican party than it is for Repubs to do the same for members of the Squad.
she and boebert are great for ridiculous soundbites that late night talk shows like to laugh at....but they are far from the face of the party.
maybe we just have differing opinions on what "face of the party" means. to me it means when you think of the party, the first person that comes to mind. I can't imagine she's the first person that comes to mind with many people.
yes, i agree it would benefit dems to make them the faces of the republican party, but I highly doubt it would ever stick.
Making Marge the face of the Republican party is actually easier because the leaders of her party amplify her and refuse to condemn the things she says and does in any other way other than just issuing statements. Next year, there is a very decent chance she will have some kind of leadership role when/if the R's take back congress.
If you don't currently think of her as the face of the Republican party, it is because Democrats have done a poor job, thus far, of drilling it into people's heads. That is what needs to change. Because there are more and more people like her. She has a half million twitter followers, and Donald Trump is more than happy to have her speak at his rallies. If the show was on the other foot, Republicans would have already successfully made her the face of the Dems. Midterms are on the way, Democrats need to muddy up the waters and get moving on this.
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yeah, I was surprised by that.static111 said:
Barr said today he would basically vote for any republican because the biggest threat to america is the progressive democrat agenda. I'm pretty sure that is the mainstream Republican party these days.HughFreakingDillon said:
Lindsey Graham at the SOTU: "oh just shut up".Merkin Baller said:
Where are the hard line Rs that wish she would STFU? Do they even exist?HughFreakingDillon said:
I mean any face of either party becomes mainstream....she's not mainstream. she's a kook that is laughed at by moderates and lefties (if most moderates even know who she is). and probably even hard line R's that just wish she'd STFU. Trump has had a bunch of losers/weirdos speak at his rallies, anyone who peddles his lies and stroke his fragile ego....sure, it elevates them, but it doesn't automatically make you the face of the party.The Juggler said:
Cross the media line? So....Adam Kinzinger? lol I don't know what you mean by that. Sounds like you are saying Turmp inadvertently made her the face of the Republican party. If so, oops, that's on him. You get prime speaking slots with the President of the Untied States, you are automatically elevated in status. Democrats would be smart to exploit that from her to eternity, just like Republicans have done for decades to the far left.HughFreakingDillon said:
disagree. trump likes to trot out people who fawn over him no matter who it is, especially someone who is willing to believe in the farce of his nonsense. the face of the party would be someone who could cross the media line instead of just blathering and shouting on fox news and newsmax.The Juggler said:
The leader of the Republican party is Donald Trump and he has chosen to have her speak at his rallies. She helped plan January 6th with him. That tells you all you need to know.HughFreakingDillon said:
nope. again, I don't view them as the same....it was just the closest example.The Juggler said:
Same reason Marge has pics of herself with Trump and speaks at Trump rallies.HughFreakingDillon said:
yeah, ted cruz I say. why do you think she took a picture with him and posted it? instead of say, mike crapo?The Juggler said:
Ted Cruz, you say?HughFreakingDillon said:they aren't the face of the party anymore than the squad is the face of the democratic party, no matter how much fox news yells it from the rafters. they are known as the extreme wings of each party, the loudest ones in the room. obviously the squad (in my estimation) have more respect from their like minded peers than the toxic twins do, but still, just because one party claims someone is the face of the other party, doesn't make it so.
ted cruz, lindsay graham, gym jordan, trump, mcconnell; for better or worse, those are the faces of the GOP.
Do you see any pictures of Ilhan Omar and Joe Biden (to use your example)?
So, in actuality, it should be easier for Democrats to make her the face of the Republican party than it is for Repubs to do the same for members of the Squad.
she and boebert are great for ridiculous soundbites that late night talk shows like to laugh at....but they are far from the face of the party.
maybe we just have differing opinions on what "face of the party" means. to me it means when you think of the party, the first person that comes to mind. I can't imagine she's the first person that comes to mind with many people.
yes, i agree it would benefit dems to make them the faces of the republican party, but I highly doubt it would ever stick.
I'm under the impression the GOP of 2022 enjoys having her around.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
This could potentially be huge. The Dems have finally fought fire with fire regarding gerrymandering. Maybe they can get some Repubs on board with changing the system after this. Hahahaha
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Well, if they're not the face of the party now, and I believe they are, they will be soon. Good luck. Deplorable.
Republican leaders face threat of revived Freedom Caucus in GOP-led House
Former President Donald Trump's most loyal allies in Congress have been relegated to the political wilderness for the past few years. Now they're plotting their comeback.
With the growing likelihood that Republicans will take over the House after elections this fall -- and the prospect of Trump running for president again in 2024 -- members of the Trump-loving House Freedom Caucus are preparing to flex their muscles in the next era. Under the new leadership of Rep. Scott Perry of Pennsylvania, the group is hoping to use its hardline tactics, connections to Trump and friendlier relationship with GOP leadership to bend their party to their will and put their MAGA-like stamp on the conference.Among the top items on their wish list: They want more of their members in positions of authority under a GOP-led House. One Freedom Caucus co-founder and Trump acolyte, Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio, is already in line to wield the coveted House Judiciary Committee gavel -- and all the subpoena power that comes with it."We're going to be pushing for a fair process; we're going to be pushing for more participation. Freedom Caucus members don't seem to have much of a place in a lot of the larger decision-making," said Perry, a staunch Trump ally who has come under scrutiny for trying to overturn the 2020 election on January 6, 2021. "There's no Freedom Caucus member on the Select Committee on Intelligence. Seems to be that there should be a Freedom Caucus member on that."But the prospect of a bigger and more emboldened House Freedom Caucus means some of the group's loudest MAGA firebrands, such as Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, Lauren Boebert of Colorado, Madison Cawthorn of North Carolina and Paul Gosar of Arizona, will also be elevated. And that could pose a potential governing challenge for Republican leaders, who have so far struggled to rein in the GOP's fringe elements.
The party's most prominent provocateurs have even earned a private new nickname from some of their colleagues: "the trending caucus." That's because on any given day, it seems this extremist crew is making headlines -- and creating headaches for GOP leadership -- with their behavior. Last week alone, they drew unwanted attention to their party for heckling President Joe Biden during his State of the Union address, attending a conference organized by a known White nationalist and being the lone "no" votes on measures to make lynching a federal hate crime and to express support for Ukraine amid its war with Russia.
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Senate passes budget bill that includes almost $14B for Ukraine, revives the Violence Against Women Act, revived earmarks and provides substantial increases to domestic spending priorities. Way to go Brandon!
In total, it sets federal domestic, discretionary spending at a level of $730 billion, an amount that covers significant boosts at agencies including the Department of Health and Human Services, the Labor Department and the Education Department. The money allows the Biden administration to proceed with key initiatives, including the work to implement a $1.2 trillion infrastructure law adopted last year to improve the nation’s roads, bridges, pipes, ports and Internet connections.
Senate passes bill to avert shutdown, extend $14 billion in Ukraine aid - The Washington Post
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Does this bill also address inflation? I didn't think so.... $14 Billion to Ukraine when many Americans are struggling with our own inflation war. That seems like a really smart idea right now. Let's spend more money that we don't have!!Halifax2TheMax said:Senate passes budget bill that includes almost $14B for Ukraine, revives the Violence Against Women Act, revived earmarks and provides substantial increases to domestic spending priorities. Way to go Brandon!
In total, it sets federal domestic, discretionary spending at a level of $730 billion, an amount that covers significant boosts at agencies including the Department of Health and Human Services, the Labor Department and the Education Department. The money allows the Biden administration to proceed with key initiatives, including the work to implement a $1.2 trillion infrastructure law adopted last year to improve the nation’s roads, bridges, pipes, ports and Internet connections.
Senate passes bill to avert shutdown, extend $14 billion in Ukraine aid - The Washington Post
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there's always going to be reasons to keep money domestically. this is a pretty big deal. you don't think we should all be helping ukraine, even if it hurts us financially?JB16057 said:
Does this bill also address inflation? I didn't think so.... $14 Billion to Ukraine when many Americans are struggling with our own inflation war. That seems like a really smart idea right now. Let's spend more money that we don't have!!Halifax2TheMax said:Senate passes budget bill that includes almost $14B for Ukraine, revives the Violence Against Women Act, revived earmarks and provides substantial increases to domestic spending priorities. Way to go Brandon!
In total, it sets federal domestic, discretionary spending at a level of $730 billion, an amount that covers significant boosts at agencies including the Department of Health and Human Services, the Labor Department and the Education Department. The money allows the Biden administration to proceed with key initiatives, including the work to implement a $1.2 trillion infrastructure law adopted last year to improve the nation’s roads, bridges, pipes, ports and Internet connections.
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What do we get back for our investment? Of course I want to help but I am torn. It's like when you get onto an airplane and they tell you in case of an emergency, you should secure your oxygen mask before securing someone else's mask. We are not taking care of our own issues here in America. We have record inflation happening and it's only getting worse by the day. When are our politicians going to not only be concerned about our issues domestically, but take action?HughFreakingDillon said:
there's always going to be reasons to keep money domestically. this is a pretty big deal. you don't think we should all be helping ukraine, even if it hurts us financially?JB16057 said:
Does this bill also address inflation? I didn't think so.... $14 Billion to Ukraine when many Americans are struggling with our own inflation war. That seems like a really smart idea right now. Let's spend more money that we don't have!!Halifax2TheMax said:Senate passes budget bill that includes almost $14B for Ukraine, revives the Violence Against Women Act, revived earmarks and provides substantial increases to domestic spending priorities. Way to go Brandon!
In total, it sets federal domestic, discretionary spending at a level of $730 billion, an amount that covers significant boosts at agencies including the Department of Health and Human Services, the Labor Department and the Education Department. The money allows the Biden administration to proceed with key initiatives, including the work to implement a $1.2 trillion infrastructure law adopted last year to improve the nation’s roads, bridges, pipes, ports and Internet connections.
Senate passes bill to avert shutdown, extend $14 billion in Ukraine aid - The Washington PostWhere is all that money coming from? We can not give money to Ukraine on credit. Let's say I ask you for some money to pay my rent or I will get kicked out. You don't have the money to cover me so would you help me out by charging it to a credit card? I get this is not the same thing but we don't have $14 billion to just give away. We may be spending $14 billion to help right now but what kind of interest is America going to have to pay on that $14 billion?0 -
How would you suggest a govt funding bill would address inflation. Can you explain the specific policy change that congress could/ should enact to stem inflation?JB16057 said:
Does this bill also address inflation? I didn't think so.... $14 Billion to Ukraine when many Americans are struggling with our own inflation war. That seems like a really smart idea right now. Let's spend more money that we don't have!!Halifax2TheMax said:Senate passes budget bill that includes almost $14B for Ukraine, revives the Violence Against Women Act, revived earmarks and provides substantial increases to domestic spending priorities. Way to go Brandon!
In total, it sets federal domestic, discretionary spending at a level of $730 billion, an amount that covers significant boosts at agencies including the Department of Health and Human Services, the Labor Department and the Education Department. The money allows the Biden administration to proceed with key initiatives, including the work to implement a $1.2 trillion infrastructure law adopted last year to improve the nation’s roads, bridges, pipes, ports and Internet connections.
Senate passes bill to avert shutdown, extend $14 billion in Ukraine aid - The Washington Post
Second, do you think that sending money to Ukraine who is valiantly fighting our enemy, will increase the rate of inflation? Can you explain how, what that increase would expected to be, and therefore how saving x% in annual inflationary rate is worth it compared to assisting Ukraine?
I'm just curious if you thought this through or just being a contrarian.0 -
stability in the region, hopefully.JB16057 said:
What do we get back for our investment? Of course I want to help but I am torn. It's like when you get onto an airplane and they tell you in case of an emergency, you should secure your oxygen mask before securing someone else's mask. We are not taking care of our own issues here in America. We have record inflation happening and it's only getting worse by the day. When are our politicians going to not only be concerned about our issues domestically, but take action?HughFreakingDillon said:
there's always going to be reasons to keep money domestically. this is a pretty big deal. you don't think we should all be helping ukraine, even if it hurts us financially?JB16057 said:
Does this bill also address inflation? I didn't think so.... $14 Billion to Ukraine when many Americans are struggling with our own inflation war. That seems like a really smart idea right now. Let's spend more money that we don't have!!Halifax2TheMax said:Senate passes budget bill that includes almost $14B for Ukraine, revives the Violence Against Women Act, revived earmarks and provides substantial increases to domestic spending priorities. Way to go Brandon!
In total, it sets federal domestic, discretionary spending at a level of $730 billion, an amount that covers significant boosts at agencies including the Department of Health and Human Services, the Labor Department and the Education Department. The money allows the Biden administration to proceed with key initiatives, including the work to implement a $1.2 trillion infrastructure law adopted last year to improve the nation’s roads, bridges, pipes, ports and Internet connections.
Senate passes bill to avert shutdown, extend $14 billion in Ukraine aid - The Washington PostWhere is all that money coming from? We can not give money to Ukraine on credit. Let's say I ask you for some money to pay my rent or I will get kicked out. You don't have the money to cover me so would you help me out by charging it to a credit card? I get this is not the same thing but we don't have $14 billion to just give away. We may be spending $14 billion to help right now but what kind of interest is America going to have to pay on that $14 billion?
I don't know the answer to your second paragraph. But I know Canada is in debt but still gives aid to some countries. people criticize that as well. But hey, I have a mortgage and a car payment to pay off, but I still give to charity. It's just the right thing to do.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:
stability in the region, hopefully.JB16057 said:
What do we get back for our investment? Of course I want to help but I am torn. It's like when you get onto an airplane and they tell you in case of an emergency, you should secure your oxygen mask before securing someone else's mask. We are not taking care of our own issues here in America. We have record inflation happening and it's only getting worse by the day. When are our politicians going to not only be concerned about our issues domestically, but take action?HughFreakingDillon said:
there's always going to be reasons to keep money domestically. this is a pretty big deal. you don't think we should all be helping ukraine, even if it hurts us financially?JB16057 said:
Does this bill also address inflation? I didn't think so.... $14 Billion to Ukraine when many Americans are struggling with our own inflation war. That seems like a really smart idea right now. Let's spend more money that we don't have!!Halifax2TheMax said:Senate passes budget bill that includes almost $14B for Ukraine, revives the Violence Against Women Act, revived earmarks and provides substantial increases to domestic spending priorities. Way to go Brandon!
In total, it sets federal domestic, discretionary spending at a level of $730 billion, an amount that covers significant boosts at agencies including the Department of Health and Human Services, the Labor Department and the Education Department. The money allows the Biden administration to proceed with key initiatives, including the work to implement a $1.2 trillion infrastructure law adopted last year to improve the nation’s roads, bridges, pipes, ports and Internet connections.
Senate passes bill to avert shutdown, extend $14 billion in Ukraine aid - The Washington PostWhere is all that money coming from? We can not give money to Ukraine on credit. Let's say I ask you for some money to pay my rent or I will get kicked out. You don't have the money to cover me so would you help me out by charging it to a credit card? I get this is not the same thing but we don't have $14 billion to just give away. We may be spending $14 billion to help right now but what kind of interest is America going to have to pay on that $14 billion?
I don't know the answer to your second paragraph. But I know Canada is in debt but still gives aid to some countries. people criticize that as well. But hey, I have a mortgage and a car payment to pay off, but I still give to charity. It's just the right thing to do.Ok but do you give to charity by credit or do you have that extra money to give?I don't see how giving Ukraine $14 billion is going to make that region stable. That's like throwing money into a wishing well.
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well, if I have debt, it's technically not "extra" money, it's just money coming from two different places.
it's humanitarian aid. rebuilding aid. military aid.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
When in the history of the US Congress has a budget bill addressed inflation? How would you propose funding the military or any other government agency in the absence of this, or any other bill/authorization?JB16057 said:
Does this bill also address inflation? I didn't think so.... $14 Billion to Ukraine when many Americans are struggling with our own inflation war. That seems like a really smart idea right now. Let's spend more money that we don't have!!Halifax2TheMax said:Senate passes budget bill that includes almost $14B for Ukraine, revives the Violence Against Women Act, revived earmarks and provides substantial increases to domestic spending priorities. Way to go Brandon!
In total, it sets federal domestic, discretionary spending at a level of $730 billion, an amount that covers significant boosts at agencies including the Department of Health and Human Services, the Labor Department and the Education Department. The money allows the Biden administration to proceed with key initiatives, including the work to implement a $1.2 trillion infrastructure law adopted last year to improve the nation’s roads, bridges, pipes, ports and Internet connections.
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Rootin’ for Putin on the ritz? Wow.JB16057 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
stability in the region, hopefully.JB16057 said:
What do we get back for our investment? Of course I want to help but I am torn. It's like when you get onto an airplane and they tell you in case of an emergency, you should secure your oxygen mask before securing someone else's mask. We are not taking care of our own issues here in America. We have record inflation happening and it's only getting worse by the day. When are our politicians going to not only be concerned about our issues domestically, but take action?HughFreakingDillon said:
there's always going to be reasons to keep money domestically. this is a pretty big deal. you don't think we should all be helping ukraine, even if it hurts us financially?JB16057 said:
Does this bill also address inflation? I didn't think so.... $14 Billion to Ukraine when many Americans are struggling with our own inflation war. That seems like a really smart idea right now. Let's spend more money that we don't have!!Halifax2TheMax said:Senate passes budget bill that includes almost $14B for Ukraine, revives the Violence Against Women Act, revived earmarks and provides substantial increases to domestic spending priorities. Way to go Brandon!
In total, it sets federal domestic, discretionary spending at a level of $730 billion, an amount that covers significant boosts at agencies including the Department of Health and Human Services, the Labor Department and the Education Department. The money allows the Biden administration to proceed with key initiatives, including the work to implement a $1.2 trillion infrastructure law adopted last year to improve the nation’s roads, bridges, pipes, ports and Internet connections.
Senate passes bill to avert shutdown, extend $14 billion in Ukraine aid - The Washington PostWhere is all that money coming from? We can not give money to Ukraine on credit. Let's say I ask you for some money to pay my rent or I will get kicked out. You don't have the money to cover me so would you help me out by charging it to a credit card? I get this is not the same thing but we don't have $14 billion to just give away. We may be spending $14 billion to help right now but what kind of interest is America going to have to pay on that $14 billion?
I don't know the answer to your second paragraph. But I know Canada is in debt but still gives aid to some countries. people criticize that as well. But hey, I have a mortgage and a car payment to pay off, but I still give to charity. It's just the right thing to do.Ok but do you give to charity by credit or do you have that extra money to give?I don't see how giving Ukraine $14 billion is going to make that region stable. That's like throwing money into a wishing well.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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